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A "Human Statue of Liberty" was created with 18,000 thousand man in 1918 at Camp Dodge in Iowa before going to war. Here is the incredible photo that resulted. (i.imgur.com)

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[–]cabba 76 points77 points ago

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18000 thousand? That's almost twenty million people! Doesn't look that much in the picture though.

[–]uparrow[S] 14 points15 points ago

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haha, I didn't notice my error before reading this. Thanks for pointing it out.

[–]Mcfrack 5 points6 points ago

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Also its men not man

[–]reddits_paranoid_gf 29 points30 points ago

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It's "it's" not "its"

[–]IAMAhippoAMA 12 points13 points ago*

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You forgot a period.

[–]shitfaceddick 2 points3 points ago

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Your added a "for" too many.

[–]DCredditor202 2 points3 points ago

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I think you me "You" not "Your".

[–]tinkthank 1 point2 points ago

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You forget the "add"

[–]IAMAhippoAMA 3 points4 points ago

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Thank you good sir.

[–]shitfaceddick 2 points3 points ago

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I thought you did it on purpose? I added a mistake so the next could correct me. Now I just look stupid.

[–]IAMAhippoAMA 3 points4 points ago

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Oh shit, that would have been pretty funny. Sorry bud.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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He's still correct on though.

[–]uparrow[S] -1 points0 points ago

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it's

[–]Mcfrack -1 points0 points ago

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No but seriously though, how do you type "man" instead of "men"? Either it is a terrible typo or you are just retarded.

[–]verkon 0 points1 point ago

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they don't call it total war for nothing

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points ago

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i really doubt its 18000. there are less than 20 dudes at the very bottom in the first row.

[–]goldragon 15 points16 points ago

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And there are many, many more men in each row the further away you get from the foreground. It's like those sidewalk chalk drawings that look 3D if viewed from the right spot. Compare this view to the wrong view. The torch probably has more men than the rest of the statue combined.

[–]bruzdnconfuzd 3 points4 points ago

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Yeah, but they're using smaller guys in the back.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points ago

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children

[–]uparrow[S] 17 points18 points ago*

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Other similar, and equally incredible, pictures can be found in the Carl Hammer Gallery.

[–]Didorian 17 points18 points ago

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Something looks off about the perspective to me. Amazing sight though. Where did you find it?

[–]Brunopolis 8 points9 points ago

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I think it's probably pretty hard to coordinate a shape like that. Especially in the early 1900's. It's not like planes and overhead shots were that common. 8P

[–]mdohrn 14 points15 points ago

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The major difference was possible elevation for the photographer/camera. Whereas high-zoom aerial shots are now possible to do this, the photographer was certainly no more than a couple stories up off the ground.

I thought shenanigans were in play when I saw how close the first few soldiers are and how few were in the row, and it occurred to me that this image would look truly bizarre from above and nothing at all like the Statue of Liberty, as the perspective is built into the arrangement of people. The torch is massive relative to any part below it in sheer number of soldiers in it.

[–]basementdwellr 5 points6 points ago

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I actually live about five minutes from Camp Dodge. There is a very high hill that overlooks Camp Dodge that is probably where the photo was taken from.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points ago

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Unless your "very high hill" results in a sheer cliff face for the photographer to stand on, not likely.

[–]vlf_fata 1 point2 points ago

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Yeah since telephoto lenses weren't around back then, right?

Most likely the lens they were using had a far greater focal length than any point and shoot you have.

[–]intisun 1 point2 points ago

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Telephoto lenses flatten the perspective; this picture was obviously not taken with a telephoto but with a wider lens.

I'd say it was taken from a watchtower or a crane, and the front soldiers are probably only a dozen metres away from its base.

[–]DeskFlyer 3 points4 points ago

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It was taken from the top of a specially constructed tower.

[–]Chubbstock 0 points1 point ago

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I have a picture of my grandpa's old army camp up in michigan, it was taken with a kite in 1910 or so. likely done here as well.

[–]spauldingd 0 points1 point ago

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Me too!

[–]iSteve -3 points-2 points ago

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It looks like forced perspective to me, and I think the number is bullshit. Maybe 1,800.

[–]mdohrn 1 point2 points ago

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I think what you're seeing is only the trick because there are no trees or anything at various depths to use as references for size.

[–]Didorian 1 point2 points ago

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Yeh I get that but something looks really weird, I'm not saying it's fake but something doesn't match up for my eyes.

[–]DeskFlyer 13 points14 points ago

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Details about how this was accomplished here.

[–]TheNadir 2 points3 points ago

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Your comment should be at the very top. Excellent Snopes piece.

Half of the skeptical comments could use your post as a reply.

(BTW I was skeptical too. Shit just looks shopped!)

[–]iSteve 0 points1 point ago

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Interesting.

[–]Apathetic_Aplomb 1 point2 points ago

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Maybe he found it on Reddit

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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the brains familiarity with the pixel size and density identifying distance doesn't help things. Squinting improves it, although she does look a bit fat.

[–]mirchman 0 points1 point ago

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Its probably just that the arm, torch and flame are a bit too long.

Since the camera shot isn't totally overhead (its shot from an angle) things closest to the camera appear as long as they should, and things further away from the camera appear shorter -- so the person coordinating this was probably trying to keep that in mind and made the arm, torch and flame longer than you actually should and ended up not having the correct size. Thats just my theory anyways.

[–]neighborcat1-scratch 0 points1 point ago

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I see what you mean about the distortion. I'm suspecting lens aberration. Consider the included angle and depth of field, literally.

[–]RedditorZero 0 points1 point ago

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It looks like it's taken on a big hill leading down into a field. About halfway up the formation there's a change in lighting on the ground that shows where the bottom of the hill appears to be.

[–]Dawggoneit 0 points1 point ago

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The perspective is a bit off, but damn did they do a good job of getting it as right as they did!

If you looked at that crowd of people from anywhere other than where the camera was positioned, it would look nothing like the Statue of Liberty so it must have been exceedingly difficult to get everyone in the correct position, wearing the correct colored clothing, and keeping the correct crowd density as it stretched back. All before computers and calculators. These guys had to break out graph paper for goodness sake!

[–]bjoernlars 0 points1 point ago

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I think I figure out why I am bothered by the perspective. Looking at this picture, the majority of the soldiers seem to be in the torch. Someone with a great sense of perspective could have coordinated this, but I have doubts.

What really bothers me is that in the background, you can see cars and what I believe are 1 to 3 story buildings. Why are the soldiers back there microscopic and not in proportion to the adjacent buildings?

I'm no expert, but maybe I'm missing something.

[–]slkjfdhsd -4 points-3 points ago

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i call shennanigans...

the formations do seem to try to correct perspective and distance deformation (needing 4 men in the front but 20 in the back rows for the same "width") but it somehow looks weird...

i call shop!

[–]felpz123 4 points5 points ago

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12,000 people in the flame, 6,000 everywhere else.

[–]gheffern 1 point2 points ago

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Nope, my mother has had this picture hanging in our house since before shop existed.

[–]Dopplegangr 1 point2 points ago

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Not to say it was done on this photo, but photo editing was done before digital (Photoshop).

The perspective does seem odd, I feel like the people in front should be seen from a much higher angle, but they are almost straight on. I'm no photo expert, but maybe this could be done with a really long lens? No idea what kind of equipment they had available then.

[–]Ferrofluid 0 points1 point ago

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Prob an aerial camera, one that was used by photo reconnaissance balloons or planes.

[–]alphtrion 0 points1 point ago

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wouldn't be in the Library of Congress if it was shop

[–]freckledsmile 8 points9 points ago

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I bet Neil Buchanan's Great Grandfather was responsible for this.

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[–]maxnpnut 2 points3 points ago

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I also have a relative in the photo...a "hat on" participate according to my dad.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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There's going to be like a hundred people saying "that's not 18000 people" and a hundred more saying "look at the perspective, there's a shitload of people in the flame."

This guy took a bunch of pictures like this in my hometown. Shit's crazy.

[–]k1llmewithaspork 7 points8 points ago

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wow... these people were pretty bored huh?

[–]Mr_Cardholder 12 points13 points ago

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I take that you've never been to Iowa...

[–]Ziodos 7 points8 points ago

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Hey now, I'm from Iowa and... you're right.

[–]k1llmewithaspork 0 points1 point ago

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hahaha nope

[–]KingGorilla 4 points5 points ago

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Did anyone think that a bunch of guys piled on top of each other to form a 3D replica? This is far more practical

[–]bdfortin 1 point2 points ago

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But much less awesome.

[–]maddog66 1 point2 points ago

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That's really something else!

[–]holodog 1 point2 points ago

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"Jesus Christ, sarge, I might be dead next month. How much longer do we have to stand here?"

[–]AverageHero 1 point2 points ago

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To top it off I believe this was in 100+ degree weather.

[–]lordlicorice 0 points1 point ago

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Reminds me of the formation parades in Catch 22.

Edit: For those who haven't read it, on Sundays they line up in full uniform in sweltering heat and stand at attention until they meet the required quota of men collapsing from heat exhaustion for the parade to be canceled.

[–]ebbv 1 point2 points ago

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A bunch more pictures in the same style by the same photographers.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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wow. the amount of organization and time to get this together is pretty mind boggling.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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When notre dame was sacked and ripped apart, someone put a prostitute on the altar. They tore down a curtain and wrapped it around her shoulders, crowned her the goddess of wisdom, and put a torch in her hand (to symbolize the light of lucifer)

That's the statue of liberty

[–]BeepbeepJeep1 1 point2 points ago*

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This was taken in the summer, and back in those days the uniforms were made of wool. A bunch of guys actually passed out due to heat exhaustion because it took hours and hours to arrange the men. Imagine just standing there for 9 hours straight in 100 degree heat with a full wool uniform....people were made of stronger stuff back then

[–]neighborcat1-scratch 1 point2 points ago

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What amazes me is that this was done without 2-way radios...

"Smith, go tell Patterson in the left thumb to take off his hat."

[–]sonomabob1 1 point2 points ago

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The first flash mob.

[–]Jegschemesch 1 point2 points ago

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Not vertical? Lame.

[–]oddspellingofPhreid 1 point2 points ago

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Wow, that must have looked fucked up from the top down perspective.

[–]koltra 1 point2 points ago

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Hobbes' Leviathan

[–]jaroberts24 0 points1 point ago

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I bet that took a better part of the day to pull off.

[–]iBleeedorange 0 points1 point ago

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Ah, times before the internet, and television.

[–]tomhousethecat 0 points1 point ago

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Now they just need to learn how to march like that

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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They just need to learn how to attack like that.

[–]chasingamy99 0 points1 point ago

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I can't see why this is unbelievable. I first saw this photo in the late 70's, it's not fake.

[–]BONUSBOX 0 points1 point ago

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17 people in the front row, 170 in the back

[–]IOwin 0 points1 point ago

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[Iowa National guard] here is what I found regarding this photo.

[–]lvtrance 0 points1 point ago

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Smelly armpit

[–]ptsaq 0 points1 point ago

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Damnit, I thought it was going to be a vertical statue of liberty!

[–]future_pope 0 points1 point ago

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Has it already been two weeks? I guess it's time for the obligatory repost.

[–]sushisushisushi 0 points1 point ago

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With the 18,000 reposts of this image, we could create a mosaic Statue of Liberty.

[–]Yeugwo 0 points1 point ago

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Would have been interesting to have them line up in their exact spots after the war to see how the shape changes. Would be sadbut interesting.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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‘GOOD-MORNING; good-morning!’ the General said
When we met him last week on our way to the line.
Now the soldiers he smiled at are most of ’em dead,
And we’re cursing his staff for incompetent swine.

-Siegfried Sassoon

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[–]fireonhigh555 1 point2 points ago

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http://www.hammergallery.com/images/peoplepictures/MPH%2046,%20WoodrowWilson.jpg

[–]doodlesmalone 0 points1 point ago

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old diddly old

[–]Big_Ern 0 points1 point ago

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the most exciting thing to ever happen in iowa.

[–]grow4road 0 points1 point ago

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Johnston, IA represent!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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As awesome as this is it must have felt guys going off to war feel a little bit ridiculous.

[–]Dawbs89 0 points1 point ago

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Didn't they have anything else to do? Like prepare for a war, for example?

[–]JustAnAverageGuy 0 points1 point ago

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I was based at Camp Dodge in Iowa as a member of the Iowa National Guard and a new-recruit instructor for several years. An original copy of this photo is in our museum on Camp Dodge. In order to get the perspective correct there are more people in the flame of the torch than there are in the rest of the photograph.

[–]JustAnAverageGuy 0 points1 point ago

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Also; Here is a link to the location it was taken; if you are curious :) The white 3 story warehouses you see in the top right corner of the map still exist and are in use. They make up the corner of 5th Street and Truck Entrance Road at the top of the map. Google Maps

[–]hoogian 0 points1 point ago

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Taxpayer moneyyy

[–]Deli1181 0 points1 point ago

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I wonder how many of them were officers and how many were men?

[–]Michaelas10 0 points1 point ago

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Does it unnerve anyone that all these 18 thousand people are now dead?

[–]tuckidge 0 points1 point ago

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Would have been bad ass to see them all disperse and walk off in different directions

[–]aviator2 0 points1 point ago*

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They still do this... and no, I don't have any current photos. I just know because my cousin is in the service and participated in it.

[–]cleverlycareless 0 points1 point ago

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I feel like as Iowans we just really enjoy making shapes out of large amounts of people because this is not the first one of these I've seen. It's probably cos we have nothing better to do.

[–]DJwalrus 0 points1 point ago

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My great grandfather was in the statue of libery's crotch.

[–]jmak10 0 points1 point ago

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Gotta love the one black guy as the eye of the statue...

[–]JimmyLee123 0 points1 point ago

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"18,000 officers and men"

Does the army classify officers as a gender of their own?

[–]JohnFappityFapster1 0 points1 point ago

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Stole the idea from Galvanize2. Good job.

[–]WarmMothersQueef 1 point2 points ago

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Next on fox news: 18000 men imitate woman in gay rights ceremony.

[–]accharbs 0 points1 point ago

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Your tax dollars at work.

[–]Im_not_bob 0 points1 point ago

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Because of compounding interest, the US actually wouldn't have any national debt right now if they hadn't done this. Way to go Col. Newman!

[–]jackferret -3 points-2 points ago

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WHY do people keep upvoting this picture? why do people keep posting this picture!???? arhgh.

[–]neighborcat1-scratch 5 points6 points ago

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Do you re-read books? Listen to songs more than once? Have a favorite joke you tell? Ever get the same dish twice at a restaurant? Ever recommend the same movie to more than one friend? Do you only have one-night-stands? Ever watch a re-run on TV? How often do you look up at the moon? It's exactly the same as it was last time you looked. That's why.

What I want to know is... why do we press the buttons on the remote control harder when the batteries are low? Now THAT'S a question.

[–]solarpanzer 4 points5 points ago

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Because it's awesome?

[–]quantised -2 points-1 points ago

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18,000 men or 18k men or 18 thousand men would have been correct.

[–]uparrow[S] 1 point2 points ago

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Yeah, yeah, I know. I wish we could correct typos in titles.

[–]ccbbb23 -1 points0 points ago

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TWW, the World War, before they had to number it, was horrific. The US of A lost over 40% of our troops. My math is horrid, but over 7,000 of those participants didn't make it back.

[–]jizzle26 -2 points-1 points ago

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I'm having a hard time believing this

[–]alphtrion 0 points1 point ago

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http://www.loc.gov/pictures/search/?q=mole%20and%20thomas&c=20&st=thumbnails

[–]jizzle26 0 points1 point ago

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Touche. I can't argue with the Library of Congress.

[–]s4mfish3r -1 points0 points ago

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Are they all french as well?

[–]lordlicorice -1 points0 points ago

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Was anyone else hoping from the thumbnail that they were stacked up on top of each other?

[–]hollywoodbob 0 points1 point ago

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That would have been infinitely more impressive.

[–]Confuseled -4 points-3 points ago

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Doesnt look like 18k people to me. Maybe more like 1-2k.

[–]uparrow[S] 6 points7 points ago

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There must be way more people in the flame than in the entire body of the statue. Also, it says 18,000 on the picture.

[–]Confuseled 6 points7 points ago

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After taking perspective into account, you are probably right. For a more modern reference, the photo would most likely work the same way the perspective in sidewalk art does.

Easiest example to see is here. That would mean that the statue of liberty is most likely somewhere in the neighborhood of 1/2-1/2 mile long in the photo.

[–]yellowstone10 2 points3 points ago

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The Snopes article on the photo says that a full 89% of the people in the photo were in the left arm, torch, and flame, with just 11% making up the rest of the figure.

[–]Confuseled 1 point2 points ago

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Makes sense.

[–]macaronie 2 points3 points ago

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Yeah but the building in the background doesn't look THAT far away

[–]WhaleStep 2 points3 points ago

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I will go down with this ship

Doesn't look like 18,000 to me either

[–]withtheillbehaviour -2 points-1 points ago

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You Americans have more in common with North Korea then you like to believe. ;)

Still amazing.

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