Are you implying that entire other continents haven't been wrecked?

No, I'm not.

Europe was just one huge war after another for pretty much all of their history, Asia was certainly no better when it came to rampaging warlords.

I won't argue with you on that. I agree.

Africa has always sucked, Mali and such were notable because they were examples of Africa not sucking.

This is where our view differ. Of course to Europe and the rest of the world (at many times in history), Africa was always some uncivilized continent that differed greatly from their perspectives of civilization. Now the thing is, while I'm sure there were always problems in Africa, the problems were escalated when foreign entities started using the land and the people for selfish reasons. I'm not blaming everything on the "white man", but there is no evidence otherwise saying that European intervention was beneficial to the continent. Before that, and even now, there is little in the history taught today that even states the state of civilizations in Africa before colonization and things of that sort were introduced to the continent. From what I've been taught in every history class I've ever had, the western world hardly knows anything about the history of the African continent, unlike the history of Asia and some of the history of the Americas before colonization. In that sense, who could honestly say anything about the state of the countries in Africa before colonization if "countries" didn't even exist before foreign intervention? All we know is what is recorded in the history books, most of which consist of the effects these things had on the people.

In my opinion, the best comparison to this case would be the colonization of the U.S.A. Long story short, the Native Americans lost their homelands to European conquests and the colonies that were made afterwards. Is it the Native Americans fault that they got their shit wrecked (excuse the phrase but it is more than applicable in this case)? Is the effects of the uprising of America, in any way possible, reversible by the Native Americans? That is all I'm trying to say.

I'm not attempting to argue about how something is right and how something else is wrong. But I can say that no one can really say that the original lifestyles of African tribes and communties would be feasible if practiced today. We all know what happened prior to these countries gaining independence. So I think we should at least wait until the turmoil comes to a halt before we can say anything about the efforts of people in Africa when it comes to rebuilding a civilization.

Oh yeah, I appreciate the fact that you are giving your honest opinions instead of trying to convince me that Africa was fucked from the beginning and that the current state of the continent is the fault of the people who resides there (its still shocking that people still say shit like this outside the internet).