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What about Norway? (IMG) (imgur.com)
submitted 1 year ago by doGtsopeR
[–]ZoSo_ 24 points25 points26 points 1 year ago
I kinda want to move to Norway now.
[–]Murrabbit 13 points14 points15 points 1 year ago
I'm with you. Maybe we can get an apartment together while we learn to speak Norwegian. I play a little guitar, too, maybe we can start a band and sing songs about how much we miss the sun.
[–]sahraehmmz 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago
Can I come? I speak Swedish and thats pretty much the same dialect as Norwegian.
[–]haakondafo 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
Sure, we have a huge bunch of you swedish people here allready
[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago
Partyswedes; go home
[–]sahraehmmz 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Oh I'm not Swedish, or of Swedish decent. I just speak it, learned it for shits and giggles.
Partysvenska go home clearly does not apply to me. Tack. ;)
[–]ZoSo_ 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
Sounds like a deal to me.
[–]Murrabbit 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago
This is gonna be awesome! One caveat though, I was raised in the desert, so we're going to have to keep the thermostat no colder than 85 degrees Fahrenheit otherwise my blood will freeze.
[–]ZoSo_ 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago
I was raised in Minnesota, so 85 is no-go. 75 is a maximum, and even that's pretty uncomfortable.
[–]amkamins 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago
You'll also have to learn metric.
Reagan died so that I could measure volume by the "Hogs's head" thank you very much!
[–]amkamins 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Chemistry must be a bitch to learn in your country.
[–]Murrabbit 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago
When in just about any scientific learning environment the metric system is used almost exclusively. Remember, our scientists tend to be . . . well. . . scientists, which is to say they are well educated, generally less right-leaning that most other demographics and as such they're far more likely to recognize that the metric system is simply the more intuitive and more widely used measurement system of serious people doing some serious science, and don't let blind nationalistic preference for an antiquated and messy system get in the way of that.
[–]Monory 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago
Oddly enough, we learn chemistry using metric.
[–]Disgod 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Please! We all know that the true science is alchemy!
[–]Gahahaha 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
"The metric system is the tool of the devil! My car gets 40 rods to the hogshead and that's the way I likes it."
[–]Murrabbit 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
Hmm ok I'll just have to buy a lot of sweaters.
[–]ZoSo_ 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Which I assume is the style in Norway anyway.
[–]dalailama1 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Not really. You can wear t-shirts all summer.
[–]neslin 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
In Northern Norway that translates to appr. 10-15 days :p
Indeed :p
[–]onionhammer 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
I was raised in MN, and lived in Norway for a couple years.
MN is worse, climate wise. Southern norway (below the arctic circle) is a very mild and nice climate during summer and very moderate during winter. It can snow a lot though.
You should be used to the heat, MN gets up to ~110F during the summer, and it's not a dry heat :P
I don't think it's very easy to immigrate there though, at least not for Americans.
[–]bornagainatheist 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
You'll miss it in the winter if you live up north, BUT you get sun 24/7 for 2 whole months in the summer. Everyone should experience that in their lifetime.
[–]Murrabbit 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Sounds like quite an experience.
[–]dalailama1 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
Dude shut up, we have sun like at least five days a year. Quit whining jesus christ /s
[–]pbcar 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
Maybe you could even sing songs about your dog.
[–]neslin 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
kor e bikkjen, eg må finne bikkjen, for den som finner bikkjen får den feteste premien :)
Awesome song :)
[–]bigern22 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Most of them speak English so you don't even have to learn the language unless you want to.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago
It is cute when a newly arrived doesn't speak the language.
It is insulting that someone who have lived in the country for years still doesn't speak the language.
[–]aunetsae 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
I agree, this is really disrespectful and arrogant.
[–]DokterW 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Depends on where you want to work. Also it makes it easier to intigrate and be part of "the group".
I've lived in The Netherlands and you can get by pretty easy without learning Dutch, but boy it would have made my life so much easier if I were fluent in Dutch.
[–]rhetorikill 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
I want to come, I have 25 grand to start us off and a pretty face. We can make it man.
Sorry, you'd be a 3rd wheel at this point a- wait. . . 25 grand? Yeah ok you're in.
[–]Scaryclouds 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
Let's start a mass /r/atheism exodus to Norway.
I guess you could call it political asylum (from religious mania)
P.S. Norway's state religion is Christian/Lutheran :P
[–]Peddyslate 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
Yes we do. Unfortunately. But the argumentation for that is not to "keep the faith" or to "go with god" or anything. It is simply for the practial reason of keeping the church under the law, making sure they don't get all religous all the time.
If you ask me, state and church should be separated, so that religion would show itself for what it really is.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
I'll join!
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
Or Iceland, Sweden, Denmark but not Finland. Finland is still insanely religious.
Going there in December. :)
As a norwegian myself all I can say is "welcome" :)
[–]valeyard89 23 points24 points25 points 1 year ago
And actually, they do speak Norwegian in Hell.
[–]capnza[] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
That seems too good to be true.
[–]MetalChef 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
Been there. Not much to see.
[–]Anderspanders 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
Whaaat? They have Hell Hotel!
[–]MetalChef 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
Seriously dude, a village with only a resemblence in name towards christian lore is the last thing Norway has to show off on. The mountains and fjords in that area for example, puts everything else that scandinavia has to shame in a matter of nature.
[–]DokterW 16 points17 points18 points 1 year ago
As a Norwegian atheist it always makes me chuckle when someone brings up this magical 70% regarding Norway and even Sweden.
Apparently it is taken from a book by Phil Zuckerman, but it is never mentioned that number is not exclusive to atheist, but also agnostics and non-believers. Also it is never mentioned the real number is actually between 31-72%. 41 points difference a huge certainty.
The thing with religion in Norway is that we don't speak much of it in public. Those I grew up with and went to school with were mostly Christians. Only a few of us were atheists. Still I know people who are deeply religious, but doesn't seem like it as they see it as a private matter.
I would love if the true number of atheists were 72%, but not from my experience growing up there.
It is also not just because people see religion as a personal thing, most people I know who are "Christians" are not practising their faith. They are merely believing there is a God.
So I think it is more about our attitude than this 70% thing. Same thing in Sweden, 46-85% atheist, etc.
Let us say 70% were atheist in Norway and Sweden. You would assume, or at least hope, that we wouldn't have a Christian political party or still let laws based on religion be still in effect, right? Or can we assume us atheists are a bunch of lazy bastards? :)
[–]idiosyncrisia 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago
In the US here, religion is huge, and in your face almost all the time depending on where you are. I would be perfectly content if the US was 80% Christian, Muslim, Jewish, whatever, as long as they kept it private and in their lives only.
The issue with the US is that it is not so, and we are forced to live our lives around high ranking people's views of the world with their religious beliefs pointing them the direction to sail. It sucks.
In the US here, religion is huge, and in your face almost all the time depending on where you are.
I think this is really particular to the US among the developed countries. I never seen something like this in Europe…
Well we can at least find comfort in the fact that the religous movements here aren't as "agressive" as they are in many other countries, and neither are the followers (for the most part). That does alot in my opinion. Being as it is, i'm kind of glad that the worst religious "hot potato" we have here for the moment is the decision by politician Jan Björklund that Christinanity should have a bigger part in the "Religious studies" of public schools than others.
Oh, and one more thing. Cheers to you neighbour.
Yeah, we are kind of lucky that the religious nutters kind of keep to themselves. I kind of got the impression when I grew up that religion is something you should ask about, not something that should be forced up on you.
That really annoyed me when I read about that. Finally religious class is hopefully somewhat neutral and someone wants to step back in time. Not sure how it was in Sweden, but in Norway there was and might still are some resistance from some old farts refusing to speak about different religions.
Well... I really think of all the "småkristne", (translas to "small-time christians") are mostly people who would turn atheist the moment they acutally gave it a thought. They rather just call themselves christian because they sort of celebrate christmas. But they'll curse like good norwegians, crack blasphemous jokes all the time and generally act a bit patronizing towards people who label themselves as "christians".
Oh yeah, for sure. They are just too lazy. :)
I think that is the most common "Christians" in Norway.
Kind of funny how they can't really give up the idea about a God, yet they have probably never read the bible, never go to church and probably do everything they shouldn't do according to the bible. Still they get offended if you tell them God is not real.
[–]Fartsmell 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
I almost never meet any real christians or belivers in Norway. They are mostly secular with christian traditions and don't follow any parts of their lives due to Jesus Christ. They just call themselves christian, and don't really do much about it. Also they can wear crosses, and don't really know shit about it. I hate it, but it's nothing compared to those who are really fundamentalists.
In that sense you can say that most of people in Norway are very secular.
70% is probably not that far from the truth, at least not in my experience. I don't know any christians, but as you say in your comment norwegians tend to see religion as private matter, so some of the people i know might be (non-practising) christians (or believing in a god of some sort), they just don't feel the need to talk about it... Also, I'm from Northern Norway, religion seems to be a lot less "popular" here than in certain regions down south.
[–]zda 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Concerning life quality:
http://www.swedishwire.com/nordic/7129-norway-has-best-quality-of-life-un-report.
That's fairly recent.
As for religion: It stays out of politics. Even the Christian-Democratic party (3.9% according to a survey released 30/10/2010) doesn't try to preach anything more than "christian values", which translates to family aid and aid to developing countries. Teaching christianity as something special compared with hinduism is against the current curriculum and abortion isn't even discussed.
As for tea-party religious people, check out the percentage for "members of other christian communities" here, it's probably way more accurate than anything else: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norway#Religion You also have a couple of percents of muslims in Norway, but I know less about them.
But the important point is: Even with 80% christians in Norway we have a church that is part of the state. It is closely linked to politics. The result of this is a church that accepts gays about as much as the general public. http://translate.google.no/translate?hl=no&sl=no&tl=en&u=http://www.kirken.no/%3Fevent%3DdoLink%26famID%3D6892
Don't think we're not a secular country even though we have a bullshit rule about a state religion that you have to actively work to not be a part of. Humans generally like tradition, and just need some excuse the mark the occasion, and our state church does an excellent job at that. Of course have a humanist alternative to these, if you prefer that.
We kinda got "seperation of church and state" down by not seperating them, since the religious leaders couldn't run around spewing bullshit, because the people would get to them via our politicans.
Even as a Norwegian I take that study with a grain of salt. Sure, I'm proud of the "award", but it is really not that great there. But that's my personal opinion.
Yeah, at least KRF is not too crazy. But they probably know if they become too extreme with their bible bashing they would most likely lose votes -- hopefully.
It really annoys me that the church is still part of the state. I guess if it weren't they would probably go bust. Then they could sell the churches and they could be rebuilt into more functional buildings.
But like you say, we probably have them fairly controlled because we are not separating the church from the state. Hmm... Never thought about it like that.
I'm not saying that Norway isn't a secular country. Not sure if you saw the part, one of the first words in my first comment, were I say I'm Norwegian. ;) Scandinavia is, if I recall correctly, the most secular continent. What I am questioning is the 70% people tend to throw around very loosely.
I grew up far away from the bible belt in Norway and still I don't feel that the 70% fits in with my experience.
[–]zda 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
It really annoys me that the church is still part of the state. I guess if it weren't they would probably go bust.
Or they could have been as successful as churches in the us, without some sort of democratic control.
As for the UN survey, it doesn't say it's great in norway, it just says that it's better than everywhere else, if measured in these specific criteria.
[–]nrhtr 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
atheist, but also agnostics and non-believers
I'm just quoting Phil Zuckerman's book. Take that up with him. :)
[–]unicock -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago*
Norwegians outside of of the bible belt in the south generally do not believe in a personal god. That doesn't mean people not are spiritual or religious. The secular humanists counts as one of the largest churches, and members of the royal family does lectures on spiritism. There's even a number of people still believing in trolls. Strong "gnostic" atheists are a small minority, but so are fundamental Christians.
[–]DokterW 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
The secular humanists counts as one of the largest churches
I wouldn't say that secular humanists belong to a church. Could you clarify that?
and members of the royal family does lectures on spiritism
Please don't remind me about our Princess who speaks with angels. Such an embarrassment.
Strong "gnostic" atheists are a small minority, but so are fundamental Christians.
My point is that as a Norwegian I would for sure notice if we lived in a society that is 70% atheist. In 2005 our elected PM was from the Christian Democratic Party. That should clearly show we are probably closer to the 31 mark than the 72.
[–]unicock 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
I wouldn't say that secular humanists belong to a church.
Their most important contribution is to take over all the traditional religious ceremonies traditionally performed by the Lutheran state church, most importantly confirmation and funerals. They have become a de-facto church without a religion.
In 2005 our elected PM was from the Christian Democratic Party
That was just a compromise between the conservative coalition members. They will probably be out of the parliament by the next election.
They have become a de-facto church without a religion.
I was one of the few who had a secular confirmation where I come from and I can't really say I felt I was attending a church. This is probably a personal thing, but I don't feel comfortable calling them a church.
Based on statistics one can only hope. But still, wasn't why I brought them up in the first place.
[–]tmrakvaag 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago
Growing up in Norway, my impression in my formative years was that any religious story was just that, some old story a lot of people knew for some reason. I don't think my parents even brought up religion, at least I don't remember any of it. It wasn't until I was well into my teens that I even considered what religion meant to me. My only real interaction with religion was through the schooling system, and religious studies was labelled by pretty much everyone as the most "boring" and "pointless" subject (this would change, at least for me, later). I found it confounding that anyone could believe any of that, and I didn't even label myself as an atheist until I discovered, to my shock, that in most countries atheists are a small minority.
The town I grew up in is fairly small (around 45000 inhabitants), and while there is a pretty big church visible from almost everywhere in the town proper, its attendance statistics in situations other than funerals, marriages etc are laughable. There are also a couple of smaller churches of the more eccentric christian flavours, but they're incredibly small and rather insular. My only interaction with any of them ever (they don't even knock on doors!) was when I was a "russ" (which is pretty much an excuse to get shitfaced during your last year of high school) and one of the churces gave me free waffles.
At some point in high school I read a bunch of Richard Dawkins books (mostly the biology themed ones, then The God Delusion later) and this gave me a lot of interest in religion and how people can, with a straight face, profess belief in any religious belief. This made religious studies AWESOME. There wasn't a single argument for religious belief I couldn't pick apart, and they almost always ended with my teacher stating "well, that's just what they believe, and that's that". As a final "essay" in religious studies I conducted a study of religiosity at my high school, and this is perhaps the most relevant part of my post, where I found around 60% of students didn't believe in any sort of deity, around 20% had some vague idea of something sort of deity-like might exist and the rest explicitly religious, but not in an American way.
The sample size was sort of small, there was only so much time I had available, but I'm fairly confident that's representative of my generation, at least the ethnically Norwegian part of Norway. I've been living in Oslo for a while now, and religiosity is a lot more pronounced among immigrants, and I even see the odd American preaching craziness (read: what you Americans probably consider normal) here and there.
That's not to say there aren't ethnically Norwegians with batshit crazy religious convictions, there just very, very rare (My ex' brother being one of them. The "PRAISE JESUS" crap he spams facebook with is driving me crazy).
Official statistics of religiosity in Norway are misleading because almost all teens have a confirmation over here (it's a tradition, don't ask), and while there is a secular alternative most choose to have it in the state church, which automatically induct them and they're added to the registries where the "religious" are counted. Actually, I'm not quite sure if they're counted as religious when they're baptised, which most kids are, or during the confirmation. Either way, not a single person I know who was confirmed in the church is religious. That might sound like an exaggeration to more religious cultures, but it's true.
TL;DR Norwegians in their twenties are most likely atheist or agnostic.
[–]jangobugsy 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago
Norway may not be that bad of place. :)
http://vimeo.com/14340190
[–]tarantulus[] 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
the levels of cute in that video exceed your daily dosage.
[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago
Much as I would like all this to be true, Norway ranks 13th in life expectancy and 21st in literacy.
[–]razzark666 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
This comic is really old, maybe when it was first published they were first at both?
[–]swales8191 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
According to the most recent Eurobarometer Poll 2005,
32% of Norwegian citizens responded that "they believe there is a God"
47% answered that "they believe there is some sort of spirit or life force".
17% answered that "they do not believe there is any sort of spirit, God, or life force".
4% answered that they "do not know".
[–]CanadianLatitude 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
What about Thor?
[–]Crestina 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
47% :-P
No, the åsatro community isn't really that big anymore. But I think there is a significance in the way christianity was introduced to Norway. It was pretty much forced on the people who lived here. In the US christian immigrants from England wanted freedom to express themselves. Hence religion (read christianity) grew differently in Norway and the US.
[–]TyleReddit 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago
I've seen this here so many times. It's good, but I've probably seen it upwards of 20 times posted here.
[–]Maistro 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
I'm from Norway. I don't think this is entirely true, but it made me happy anyway. : )
[–]Laxan 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
brb - moving to Norway
[–]dooglies 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago
Forget Norway!
[–]punkdigerati 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
Kenya! Oh Kenya! Where the giraffe's are, and the zehbra.
[–]walz 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Just out of curiosity, are you in Kenya?
[–]karaus 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
I think they were referring to this song from weebl...
[–]frezned 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
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[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago
I thought that Ctrl-W made you forget.
[–]dopplerdog 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
The kids in the background are so riveted by the conversation they've barely moved.
[–]1n1billionAZNsay 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Forget Norway, KENYA!
Funny cartoon but: correlation != causation
[–]Murrabbit 16 points17 points18 points 1 year ago
Right, and that's sort of the point of the comic.
Try to put this comic in it's proper context as set up in the first panel. As happens quite often in real life the priest is making the argument that secularization and atheism are deleterious to society - the child's example makes the same point you did Correlation != Causation, by way of using an example of a highly secular nation full of Atheists which is in fact doing quite well for itself.
The comic doesn't go that extra step and say that Atheism itself leads to a better society, though considering the facts as they are given it certainly is enough for one to form a hypothesis that runs along those lines as you yourself seem to have done, and then immediately reacted against as if it were the comic that presented the hypothesis and not yourself.
Nicely said. I can get behind that.
[–]jurble 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Indeed, it's a well-known fact that Norwegians simply bred themselves into peacefulness, with the Vikings all murdering each other until it was only the happy people left.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago
That or the remaining Vikings got sexed so hard that they used up all of their wrath.
[–]nso 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
Highly relevant to this thread and subreddit:
The image of wild-haired, dirty savages sometimes associated with the Vikings in popular culture[clarification needed] is a distorted picture of reality.[1] Non-Scandinavian Christians are responsible for most surviving accounts of the Vikings and, consequently, a strong possibility for bias exists. This attitude is likely attributed to Christian misunderstandings regarding paganism. Viking tendencies were often misreported and the work of Adam of Bremen, among others, told largely disputable tales of Viking savagery and uncleanliness
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking#Common_misconceptions_concerning_the_Vikings
[–]jurble 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
Oh certainly, from Arab sources, we know that Vikings bathed more often than other Europeans, and probably weren't that much more violent.
Though, Ibn Fadlan's account of the Rus' indicates they did pretty much have no problem murdering Slavs for fun. He'd have no more bias against Vikings than he would against any other infidel, I guess. He recounts that a Vikings chieftain put an axe in his son's crib, and said something along the lines of "This is all the inheritance I'll leave him." Which is pretty badass.
edit: Whoops, I confused Ibn Fadlan with Ibn Rustah. How silly of me. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Rustah http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Fadlan
[–]Tripplethink 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
but... they are socialists, JUST LIKE HITLER!!
In Nazi Russia, a socialist is YOU!
[–]khakitomato 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago
"Most atheist nation in the planet" is an outright lie.
According to the Eurostat Eurobarometer poll, in 2005, the most atheist country in Europe is in fact Estonia, where only 16% of people said they believed in God, followed by Czech Republic with 19%.
It says "arguably the most atheist nation." Polls aren't always accurate or reliable, making it an arguable point depending on the source of information.
[–]MightyMorph -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago*
Okay i get tired of these omg this country is so awesome.
Well im from Norway, and let me tell you a few things;
The GDP is high yes, but the cost of living is also very high, small apartments costing close to 1200 - 1500 USD per month, electricity costing around 600 USD if your lucky, thats for a basic small apartment dont get me started on the extra stuff as phone and tv, the cost of food here is crazy, were talking effing 5-6 USD for a carton of milk these days. Yes We earn a lot because everything costs a lot.
Norway isn't the most peaceful nation in the world, yes were not arguing over Christianity but the amount of hatred and racism in this country is at a all time high, its come to a point were there might be a development of a new age neo-nazi inspired movement in this country built upon the fear that the media helps grow in the populace about foreigners that come here. There is anger in teens, in todays general youth, where even going out to look for a fight and bash someone has become a hobby for many. The amount of this hidden built of rage is coming to the surface.
The recreational use of hard drugs is at a alarming stage, the age of sexual experimentation and drug use is becoming lower for each year, we have people who openly state they are doing pills taken from their parents, snort cocaine even go as far as sit at a house party and inject heroin in them in public without anyone actually being bothered by it. Then we have the issue of sex within the young populace, we have 18-22 year old hanging out at their older high schools and picking up 12-14 years and having intercourse, we have 30-40 year olds getting sexual favors from kids in exchange for monetary property as cell phone recharge credit, or other items, we have girls actually giving these advices to other girls, we have girls offering blow jobs to traffic school drivers and taxi drivers to get their services for free. This is becoming a social norm in Norway's youth.
There is also a 4 month sexual experimental phase that is accepted by the government, the school system, the parents ,the public. where 18 year olds have daily drug and alcohol use and have games involving sexual experimentations and exploitations, where the leaders of the groups give out marks/badges for girls who blow them and other sexual favors, we have a 3 day party where all these people meet up at a place to drink and do drugs and have sex and its all accepted by the Norwegian society. Kids encouraging other kids to drink more and more till they pass out and do drugs and go crazy because its the accepted thing to do.
The complete lack of any respect to teachers, parents , elderly is appalling. The students talk shit to the teacher in the class tell them to fuck off and not listening to anything they are trying to teach, ruining the class for other students as well, we have students going so far as threatening and telling teachers they will rape them. We have a general lack of motivation when it comes to educational progress, when kids come home with bad grades the parents blame the teachers and the educational system. The teachers tell them about the behavior of the kids the lack of respect and the parents complain to the teachers that their kid shouldn't show any respect and to do their fuckin job, the parents in this country are more attentive to their own alcohol and partying every weekend than the drug use the verbal abuse and the lack of respect in their kids. The parents grew up with this need of self pleasuring where their own need goes above their teenagers progress as a decent human being.
The weather being cold as Fuck!
These are just some of the problems in Norway, its not all rosy and rainbows from the first step you take onto this country it has a lot of problems.
[–]dafreshprince -3 points-2 points-1 points 1 year ago
eh, by no means is there a direct correlation between Atheism and quality of life on a national scale.
[–]tmrakvaag 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago
That may be, but the point of the comic is that there isn't a direct correlation between excessive religiosity and quality of life either. As a matter of fact, poorer and less well off countries tend to be more religious. With the inexplicable exception of the US, that is.
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