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[–]enoch00 648 points649 points ago

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$53,000 a year and $600 a semester for on campus parking...

[–]serge_mamian 102 points103 points ago

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Time to buy a bike.

[–]polkadot123 13 points14 points ago

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People keep saying to get a bike and I would just like to clarify something...I bring my car to school so that it is more convenient for me to drive over 3 states to get home whenever I want. Does everyone in this thread think that people who park at school are driving around campus? At my school I am only permitted to park in my one parking spot, so if I were to drive to class I would get towed. I only drive my car to places I can't walk to--like my home, 3 states away.

[–][deleted] 295 points296 points ago

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I'm not sure why you're getting downvoted, I go to a school that is $49,500 a year and they charge $900 a semester for parking.

[–][deleted] 176 points177 points ago

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Well, I guess I can't bitch about them raising our fees to $120 a semester anymore. Jesus fuck. $900/month is beyond ridiculous.

[–]TheBluenoser 115 points116 points ago

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My school is $8000 per year, but parking is something like $1300 per semester.

[–]HughManatee 98 points99 points ago*

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Tuition here is around $7000 a year, and the parking is only $120/semester. Go Midwest!

Edit: I meant $120 for the school year.

[–]yosem1te 74 points75 points ago

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My tuition is around $5000 a year, and the parking is free. Go Florida!

[–]fiftyseven 570 points571 points ago

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Every student in my country goes to university for free. Go Scotland!

[–]BraveSirRobin 135 points136 points ago

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However the parking still sucks at all of the Glasgow city-centre universities. I took the bus, which was also free. Go Scotland!

[–]arczi 66 points67 points ago

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Tution here is $0 and I get free access to a bike rack. Go University of Warsaw!

[–]agbw 44 points45 points ago

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You did kind of get the raw end of the deal in the first half of last century so its good to see things balance out

[–]Photoelectron 16 points17 points ago*

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Damn it Scotland, how do you manage this? Tell us your secrets!

Sincerely, Englishman paying far too much for tuition fees (but also very thankful I won't be paying them next year (bloody Tories!))

EDIT: Yeesh, Didn't realise I'd spark up such an amount of petty nationalism. Well I'm bored of it so argue amoungst yourselves if you think it will help or be productive in any way ... G'night everybody.

[–]trespasser28 2 points3 points ago

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Well they use the tax money that we pay in England to fund these things in their country and then exclude us from it whilst calling us bastards.

[–]BraveSirRobin 3 points4 points ago

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It's devolutionary, dear Watson. If it weren't for London we'd be a whole lot richer. :-(

[–]Apfel 21 points22 points ago

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Well, the bus isnt strictly free in Glasgow. You still need to put the money down each time for your ZoneCard or FirstCard and claim it back after 3-4 months. That's got to be at least 20-30p interest on MY money. Fucking capitalism.

[–]hyperbovine 1 point2 points ago

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It would have been awesomer if you said, "fooking."

[–]MikeBruski 42 points43 points ago

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In Denmark, you get paid to go to uni, around 1000$ a month. Go Scandinavia!

[–]Liber8or 5 points6 points ago

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Every student in my university goes to Scotland for free!

[–]HughManatee 57 points58 points ago

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I wish that were the case here, but the government thinks that spending more than the rest of the world combined on the military is more important.

[–]KickapooPonies 9 points10 points ago

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Just think of all that money.

[–]NASA_Cowboy 20 points21 points ago

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[–]brazilliandanny 17 points18 points ago

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Go Banana!

[–]vitalysh 40 points41 points ago

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My uni is around $0 a year and the parking is free. Go Finland! =)

[–]thrashermx 14 points15 points ago

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My uni was $0.0200733 USD a year, free parking. Go Mexico! =)

[–]handburglar 22 points23 points ago

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What's that, like 1,000,000 pesos? jajajajajajjaajjaaja

[–]thrashermx 3 points4 points ago

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What? It's 25 cents.

[–][deleted] 20 points21 points ago

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I bet you get money for going to school too! I know I do, go Denmark!

[–]lolgrim 2 points3 points ago

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Not at UF - unless you mean after 4:30PM and on weekends.

[–]instant_street 16 points17 points ago

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Uni is 350 euro a year and we don't need parking because there's good public transportation available. Go France!

[–]scoops22 9 points10 points ago

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$1900 to go to the best university in Canada, College is a couple hundred bucks. Go Quebec!

Oh and parking is $160 at my College, dunno how much it is at the downtown campus at McGill, that's probably expensive but wtv, I can take the train.

[–]kahi 2 points3 points ago

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Think the OP Is Webster in st louis, MO

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points ago

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Daaaaammmmnn. What are they using all the revenue for?

[–]bagehi 16 points17 points ago*

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Faculty only pool / hot tub / full gym / sauna / chef / parking garage / etc... That's what the school I went to for undergrad did with a chunk of the $25k we gave them each year. They also put some of it behind floor to ceiling windows that we walked past to get to class, as if to mock students who couldn't find parking and ate ramen: "look what we spent your money on!"

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points ago

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Ahh, gotcha. Yeah, they spent ours on building the fraternities new houses.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points ago

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he said $900 per semester, not month, but that's still a ridiculous amount.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points ago

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Thankfully I get to dodge that bullet. I'm in a major east coast city, so public transit is the defacto. The minority that have cars on campus are usually wealthy.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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I go to a commuter school in a city that doesn't know what public transit even means. Parking is damn near impossible for a month into the semester. I took to removing my sticker and license plate and just parking wherever I could. Tickets are $50 / each and if you go into the campus police station, they have a two foot high stack of them.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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Gnarly, your semesters are only a month long?

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points ago

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Why do you pay so much for school?? You can go to highly ranked school and get a great education for under 18k/year.

[–]CyanRain 3 points4 points ago

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Once your done paying the "parking" fee where I go, you then get the joy of paying another 1k for "guaranteed" on campus parking spots (or get to "school" 2 hours before your classes to find parking/walk in)

[–]pharmacyfires 6 points7 points ago

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20,000 a year and $180 per quarter for a bus pass

[–]leanmeanmachine 8 points9 points ago

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My college gives us a student bus pass with our parking permit!

[–]TheRiddler75 5 points6 points ago

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My college gives us a bus pass for going to school. Our fees pay for the buses. I actually hate this because I don't live in the town. On my fourth year, never used a bus.

[–]kaden_sotek 2 points3 points ago

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Same at my school. Ride every day.

[–]brosephius 5 points6 points ago

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what if they just charged everyone $54,200 a year instead?

[–]Yotsubato 10 points11 points ago

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And I thought my 8000 a year and 400 dollars for parking was bad here at UCSB...

[–]JHuddly 9 points10 points ago

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The solution is simple. Drop out.

[–]ViaNocturna 8 points9 points ago

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Universities are a business.

[–]JKaye 1 point2 points ago

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Do you go to BC? I came here to post this exact thing.

[–]enoch00 3 points4 points ago

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No. CMU. And not the one in Michigan either.

[–]thejesusfish 1 point2 points ago

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GDubs?

[–]imrofli 1 point2 points ago

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holy... i'm just glad that the government pays most of the costs here. i suppose the 53000 a year are costs you have to pay the university to study, not for your accomodation or other expenses?

it's just, here are the fees 1400SFr./year, of yourse, without rent, food and so on.

i'm just curios, what's included in those $53000?

[–]sdn 1 point2 points ago

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Jesus. I went to a community college that was $800 a semester with parking for $22 a year. They even built a brand new 5-story garage less than 20 feet away from the nearest school building.

[–]ZeroFreedom 1 point2 points ago

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Canada. Under 10K a year for post graduate (paid around 6K for undergrad). Parking $70/month for the parkade.

[–]EnigmasShroom 1 point2 points ago

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Parking at SUNY Albany is only $20 a year, but they then give out parking tickets for parking in valid parking spaces.

[–]BadassMotherchugger 1 point2 points ago

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$53,000 a year here and you were LUCKY if you even got a parking pass, and then when you did, they assigned you to a lot at the farthest point on campus from your dorm. And if you weren't an upper classman your application was less likely to be approved, even though you all pay the same.

[–]dclowd9901 106 points107 points ago

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When I was going to ASU from 01-05, the school was hitting a huge expansion of students, but had shit for parking facilities. One of the premier garages allowed parking for $250/semester, which for a lowly student like myself, was completely undoable. So I'd sneak in behind people who had tags.

Did I get tickets? Sure. But at $50 a piece, I could get 5 tickets before it wasn't worth my while to park in there anymore, and you can bet I got far fewer than 5 tickets a semester (as they didn't ticket regularly). I'm still proud of how much foresight I had then.

[–]TerpWork 6 points7 points ago

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pfft, U Maryland traffic cops were out in full force every single day. Fortunately it was only $220 a semester to park, $160 for commuters or something like that, which really isn't that bad.

[–]bluelt 49 points50 points ago

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At U Miami my tuition was around 13,000 a semester. Then they had the fucking GALL to ask 250 for parking per semester as well. In a parking garage 3 miles away. Where a bus picked you up to take you to campus, which took a good 10 minutes through Miami traffic.

[–]huevos 36 points37 points ago

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To be fair, there really isn't a lot of parking in the neighborhood around UM and in the context of Miami, $250 for 4-5 months of parking isn't horrible.

[–]meuep 2 points3 points ago

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That's the garage on Mcallister right? They were ticketing for 20$ a ticket for a while, but they recently changed to giving 1 ticket before you were booted, or just booting your car off the bat. And yeah, fuck parking here.

[–]OriginalStomper 21 points22 points ago

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Ever notice how wealthy alums never seem to want to have their names on parking garages? What's up with that? If I had a few million bucks to donate to my alma mater, I'd require they build a parking garage and name it after me. I'd then be the most popular and well-known alum of all.

[–]Roninspoon 318 points319 points ago

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In my role as a university administrator, parking is something that comes up frequently. Students hate just about everything about and seem to understand very little about the practical logistics of it.

Parking lots are really expensive. They have enormous footprints. My institution is landlocked on all four sides by major thoroughfares. Expansion of the campus facilities isn't practically possible, and even though the campus is a good 200+ acres, new facilities are constantly being built or expanded. Every new building to accommodate the institutional mission means fewer parking lots at the same time that enrollment is increasing to fill the new facilities.

The answer is to go vertical with parking garages, or locate off campus parking with shuttle transport. Both are enormously expensive.

Parking garages cost a shitload of money to construct. They're just plain expensive. Remote lots cost a lot to construct, but have the added inconvenience of requiring reoccurring costs in the form of shuttle drivers and remote parking enforcement.

Parking enforcement is a necessity as soon as you start charging for parking. You have to protect the revenue stream, because at most institutions, parking is self supporting. They have to collect fees to maintain and expand services, which requires them to collect fees. While parking can bring in a lot of revenue for an institution, it generally only pays for itself, and usually falls short.

For the sake of math, lets say you have 10,000 spaces. The cost for each space is $250 a semester. This is way below the average cost per semester, but it's a nice round number. That's an annual revenue of $5,000,000.

Out of that $5 mil you have to pay for all of your operational expenses including maintenance on the parking lots, the meters, the gates, the parking garage, painting the parking lines, repairing the parking bumpers, servers and software to maintain your enforcement database, licensing and fees to procure and distribute your permits, fuel for your shuttles, repairs and preventative maintenance on your shuttle vehicles as well as your enforcement vehicles. Then there's your wages. Hourly wages for part timers as well as full time wages including fringe which tends to run above 20% of salary depending on your benefit package. Wages and operations tend to take up the majority of your annual expenses. Whatever is left, somewhere between %10 and %20 of your operations budget, so lets say $750,000 goes towards paying down bonds used as capital payment on the construction of the parking garage and land acquisition for the remote lot.

In the end, since parking is frequently run as a service center, the costs come very close to equaling the expenses and in many institutions the bylaws require the service center to have a $0 annual budget overage.

And after all that, and all the people who get involved to provide a service to students as a convenience to them, all they can do is bitch about how they had to walk for five or ten minutes because they couldn't park closer to their classroom. A lot of institutions these days, especially ones in higher real estate markets or with land locked campuses, are taking a closer look at campus parking and asking, "is it worth our trouble, to expend so much effort and expense, if nothing will please them?" I've heard of institutions simple eliminating on campus parking altogether, and partnering with local public transport as a more effective and cost efficient strategy.

[–]ButtFartMcPoopus 155 points156 points ago*

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This is an interesting post, and I see where you're coming from, but the bottom line in my mind is that it is your responsibility to figure it out.

Any other business that needs parking... like, say a movie theater. They don't sit around and say 'oh but parking is expensive and hard' because they would just lose customers and fail at being a movie theater if they didn't figure something out. University is not exempt... it is your job to make it work for people, so they can come to your facilities and get the education they have paid unreasonable amounts of money for. Parking is not a courtesy and convenience! It is a necessity for almost everyone.

edit for grammar.

[–]BigSlowTarget 35 points36 points ago

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He has figured it out. The selected solution is build some parking and let students bitch about it. This has been true for at least twenty five years. It's not a popular solution but you don't have a God Given Right to park close to the classroom.

Universities are often best served via bicycles and motorcycles. They worked for me in Chicago even if the snowstorms were a bitch. If you're going to class you won't be carrying groceries.

[–]Bartendered 4 points5 points ago

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Unfortunately they are exempt. They could charge 10,000 dollars a class and people would still go. What incentive could they possibly have to make things easier for people. If you don't get a degree that takes generally 4 years its hard to find a reasonably paying job for the next 40 years. People feel that they MUST go to college its not an option not to; it's they only way they see to achieve their dreams. So when you hold someones dreams in your hands you have a great deal of power. Why not abuse it for financial gain? How could they compete with other colleges if they didn't. In the same way people who hire illegal immigrants because they couldn't compete with Mexico and Brazil if they paid them a livable wage, colleges use the excuse of competition to keep prices hilariously high and services to a minimum. It's they only way they can survive right?!

[–]jscoppe 11 points12 points ago

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You are absolutely correct. Schools are businesses, yet many think they're privileged enough to not have to offer basic services to their customers regardless of the outrageously inflated prices.

[–]fodrizzle 10 points11 points ago

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Parking is not a courtesy and convenience! It is a necessity for almost everyone.

It is exactly this mentality that is the source of parking problems in the first place.

[–]ButtFartMcPoopus 2 points3 points ago

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If a) public trans were perfect and fast, and/or b) the average schedule of a working and schooling american allowed hours between each to bus around, then parking wouldn't be an entitlement. I try to use public trans or a bus when I can, but when I get off work at 5 and have to be to class at 5:30, it is simply not reasonable.

[–]Sheol 2 points3 points ago

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You're wrong, not all movie theaters provide parking. If you go to a movie theater in a city there is no parking, there expect people to figure it out themselves. Many universities are downtown in major cities, and are still expected to provide parking. I go to GW right in the middle of DC and it's ridiculously expensive to bring a car because there is no space. My school has parking garages under a bunch of the buildings, but if you look at off-campus parking garages they normally charge about $20 a day. Doing some real rough calculations (365 x .75 (exclude summer)/ 2 (semesters) x 20) it's about $2737 (probably lower if you're paying monthly) a semester, that's a lot more than you pay at a university.

DC has excellent public transportation and is fairly bike friendly, why should thee school HAVE to provide parking.

[–]burnblue 16 points17 points ago

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Indeed, I say that adding more floors to that damn parking lot fits the institutional mission as much as whatever other building they were going to put up. How expensive can it be to make your parking garage a bit taller, when it doesn't need sewage and air conditioning and the like? Sure, it's more expensive than doing nothing, but don't you still need to do it?

[–]RevoS117 48 points49 points ago

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From an architectural stand point, you can't just make it "taller".

A building is designed to certain specifications: A parking garage is initially designed to hold a certain amount of cars, with a number of cars on each level. These design constraints dictate the amount of concrete, steel, etc, is needed and the needed pillar, truss, beam designs needed.

Each member has a certain design load, with a built in factor of safety, and requires a tremendous amount of planning to do meet these requirements and to do so safely.

To just 'add' more floors would cost way more than you would think. Adding more floors adds weight and additional factors that would require almost a complete redesign of the underlying floors and substructure.

[–][deleted] 40 points41 points ago

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tl;dr the real world isn't Minecraft.

[–]WSR 2 points3 points ago

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burn blue meant to design the parking deck with more floors when building not to build on more floors to existing structures...I think.

[–]GPechorin 5 points6 points ago

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"is it worth our trouble, to expend so much effort and expense, if nothing will please them?"

To a large extent, universities have fed into this. Once you start selling your university (and that's what it is) to students based on all the great amenities and lifestyle (fancy sports complexes, dorms, meal plans, etc) rather than education, or at least job prospects, you won't be heard to complain that the students feel entitled to great amenities and lifestyle.

The "you", by the way, doesn't mean you proper.

[–]fighterbynite 12 points13 points ago*

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I work parking for my school, and you are absolutely right. Parking structures are a huge decision for the school for the simple fact that they are a huge expense. Parking at my school is about 53/month. Technically for us, each regular parking stall is worth 8 dollars/day, with premium being 13. We charge for parking because the structures/lots require an upkeep. If we did not charge, the money would have to come from elsewhere (ie. most likely tuition), and this is unethical for the students who do not drive, as they are paying for something they do not use.

If our school does reserve stalls, and in these situations, it's because the stall is either a very important person, or a potential donor to the school. Think about it, parking is the first thing you do. If you want the donor to have a good experience, you begin by giving him a premium stall with easy access and proximity.

Lastly, just because I work at the parking structure doesn't mean that I give out the tickets. In some cases, it's a totally different department that handles citations. Don't come bitching to me because you didn't follow the rules and now have to pay for it.

EDIT: important part I forgot to mention: The University that I attend actually doesn't put any money into the parking structures after they are built (I'm not sure, but it's possible that they don't pay for building the structure either). So that means all the permit sales/citations go to my department for department expenses. The university itself does not provide my department with any money.

[–]traal 3 points4 points ago

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We charge for parking because the structures/lots require an upkeep.

Do you set your prices according to how much it costs for upkeep?

Technically for us, each regular parking stall is worth 8 dollars/day, with premium being 13.

Does a $13 parking space require more for upkeep than an $8 parking space?

[–]supaphly42 2 points3 points ago

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Does a $13 parking space require more for upkeep than an $8 parking space?

That's simple supply and demand. You can only have so many close spaces. People are willing to pay more for this valuable commodity.

[–]traal 2 points3 points ago

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So then the answer to my question is, no, prices are not set according to how much it costs for upkeep.

[–]Ein2015 3 points4 points ago

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I'll assume that you have good public transport.

In Dallas, public transport isn't really viable, thus leaving two options: park on campus or live on campus. The nearest apartments you can walk from is a 25 minute minimum walk, and there aren't many apartments to choose from (less than on campus).

I understand the problem (shrinking available real estate, increased attendance), but the solution isn't to make the students fend for themselves. That works for awesome cities on the west and east coast with real public transport, but not for the middle of the country where the car is still king (by far).

For schools in my area, the solution should be to cap attendance so you're not purposefully causing a problem.

Another way to think of it... would you routinely enroll 100 people into a classroom with 70 chairs, hoping some will not attend every day? Probably not.

[–]vexelle 4 points5 points ago

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The problem on my campus is not the lack of spaces. It's the lack of student spaces. Entire (large) lots have been converted into "GoldZone Staff" parking, which costs well over 3000 a semester and that students have no access to. I've never seen more than five cars in those lots. But you'll still get ticketed every twenty minutes until they boot your car if you park there with a Student pass.

[–]Craysh 13 points14 points ago

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I have absolutely no sympathy for the school.

My school charged $250/mo for parking, and then rented out the spare slots to an area car dealership.

However, there was a grocery store next door (that had "Customer Parking" signs up everywhere. So, a receipt would become my parking pass for a day. I would go into the store, buy a water or soda, or even a pack of gum, and I'd have free parking the rest of the day. Everyone started to do this (well, a good chunk of us) and the university couldn't understand why so many people stopped buying parking passes. The school tried to stop the practice but they couldn't enforce it. Eventually they stopped charging for the parking pass because it made their school look empty (though they kept renting the empty spots)

Oh, in case you're wondering the grocery store loved the practice. We parked farther back so it didn't effect other customers, and everyone would be buying from the store.

[–]wshs 2 points3 points ago

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It also makes the store look extremely popular

[–]He11razor 2 points3 points ago

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holy shit, $250 a month?

[–]CookieDough 21 points22 points ago

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I've heard this argument a few times, but I think there is another reason people get upset over the high cost. Students already pay tuition, and when tuition costs upwards of 20,000 for some schools, a huge fee to park seems ridiculous. It's even more jarring when you go to a rural school like mine that still charges $700 to park.

[–]jared555 82 points83 points ago

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Why should everyone pay the fees in their tuition when, with some schools, a large percentage of students don't have vehicles on campus?

[–]sheps 40 points41 points ago

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Why should my tuition pay for the new on-campus Theatre when I'm not an arts major? Why should I pay for the pool when I don't swim?

[–]isarl 12 points13 points ago

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That's an excellent point, and I think it's why none of the institutions I've seen mentioned in this thread charge for parking in your student fees.

However, that doesn't solve the issue that it's a large sum on top of already expensive tuition, which is understandably aggravating.

[–]Roninspoon 8 points9 points ago

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I can't speak for other institutions, but at mine, these things all come out of seperate budget lines. Tuition is the least understood, it does not go to the school. Tuition is collected by the school, returned to the state general budget, and then the state provides an operational budget back to the school on a biennium schedule. This is clearly not the case for private schools, but my understanding is that it's relatively common for state schools. The ramification is that tuition costs rarely reflect the actual budgetary need of the institution, and so operational service centers like parking are directed to collect additional fees in support of their services.

You can choose to not like it, by all means, but changing it would require a fundamental procedural and budgetary change to a system that is established in bylaws of the institution and legislation of the state.

[–]savetheclocktower 2 points3 points ago

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I went to UT and had garage parking for a year. On all relevant literature and on the campus parking web site, they make it clear that state schools are forbidden (by Texas law) to spend any money from tuition or student fees on parking structures, and therefore all such facilities must be self-supporting.

(I imagine they faced the "Why the fuck is parking so expensive?" question somewhat often.)

[–]HagbardCelineDion 2 points3 points ago

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Fine. Where I work, both students AND staff have to pay for the privilege of "right to hunt." There's no guaranteed parking places. They take the money and then set everyone loose like jackals on a hunt. If you get a spot, then awesome! Otherwise, the school still has your money and you get to drive around for an extra hour or so trying to hit the jackpot of ANY parking place. Charging an employee simply to park ANYWHERE near where they work? Ludicrous.

[–]toast28 7 points8 points ago

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How do you account for teachers and other staff getting the closest spots? That is how my college did it and it drove me nuts. I pay for their wages with my taxes, and then pay again for the privilege of parking 1/2 mile away from any buildings. If you want off site parking, the first ones it should go to should be employees, not paying customers. You wouldn't see all of Wal-Mart's employees hogging all of the good spots while customers have to walk even further. Why are colleges any different?

[–]Roninspoon 7 points8 points ago

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Many institutions are bound by work place legislation to provide parking for employees within certain restrictions and guidelines. Many institutions, like mine, require faculty and staff to pay a higher rate than students. In addition, many institutions require faculty and staff to pay for parking, regardless if they use it or not, while students have the option to not pay, and or use alternative transportation.

[–]ProbablyHittingOnYou 99 points100 points ago

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Just remove that sign. Then, parking's free.

[–]wtfnoreally 30 points31 points ago

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I tried that trick. Sadly, you still have to pay the fine.

[–]refreshbot 44 points45 points ago*

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For a full semester in college, I got away with leaving an old parking ticket under my wiper blade every time I parked my car. It was like my all-you-can-park pass that granted me access anywhere on campus that didn't require me to pay first.

One day, a couple weeks before the end of my final semester, I walked out to find 2 tickets on my car — on the old ticket, the parking attendant (clearly from abroad) wrote really hard with a pencil "you cant trik! me!!! Haaaaah haaaahhhh you pay now!"

I was still pissed off at the time because I was broke even after skipping out on the parking fee. Picturing that attendant writing out that note now gives me a good laugh—he/she is probably running some University somewhere, determining its evil parking policies/pricing.

[–]AJRiddle 11 points12 points ago

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I heard of a lot of people doing that at my school so I tried it this year (didn't buy a parking pass). I just ended up with a new ticket under my wiper to go with the old one.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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Good idea, unfortunately, where I attend, they use different color envelopes on randoms days...

[–]JayWTBF 50 points51 points ago

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Is it worth it? Let me work it. Put my thing down, flip it and reverse it!

[–]horsepuncher 28 points29 points ago

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they had a fining process when I was going to college but I found a loophole.

You didnt have to register your vehicle, and tickets could only be enforced if it was a student. So I never registered my vehicle.

The best part was not parking in the teachers lot daily for a year plus, but the fact every day they would give me multiple tickets. The best part of that was my dash was the collection of previous tickets, so it was a swamp of months of tickets under the window with a few more on top daily.

Oh the fine was $15 bucks for the first and $60 for each additional when they enforced them. They wouldn't let you get transcripts or grades until fines were paid. Also this wasn't something I went out of my way to do and I wasn't inconveniencing anyone. I was attending night classes so only like 10 cars were in the field of 100 or so spots. I could park a half mile away at student parking, didnt know where I was parking the first time, figured I could since it was empty and 5 feet from the building. Made it a point after the first ticket.

[–]NotClever 22 points23 points ago

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Dang, they didn't tow or boot you? Nice. Our school would boot you after 3 or 4 tickets. One of my friends had his car booted, stubbornly refused to pay the registration fee (which was pretty expensive) or tickets anyway, and then got towed.

[–]horsepuncher 12 points13 points ago

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it wasnt a violation for anyone but students so they really couldnt out of legal issues.

Out of fear they had to assume non registered meant non student, thus their pretend laws didn't apply.

Hell once or twice a parking tenant would see me get in and out of car and ask me if I was a student. I would just say no and go to class.

[–]frenchtoaster 11 points12 points ago

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They may have chosen not to enforce it against any non-students, but they definitely have a legal right to. Any time you park in any parking lot that is privately owned, they can tow your car if they so choose, regardless of whether you were a student or not.

Theres a parking lot here next to a plaza of food places and bars, and if you go to the ones in the same building that aren't exactly adjacent to the parking lot (but still part of the same larger building) you get towed. There is a guy that hangs out next to the parking lot pretty much all day every day just for the purpose of watching where people walk when they get out of their cars so he can call the towing company.

I suspect he must get some kind of kickbacks from the towing company to make this worth while.

[–]NotClever 3 points4 points ago

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Hmm interesting. I know for our campus you could get away without paying if you weren't a student because the only enforcement measures they could take were, as with your school, withholding registration/grades. I wonder what the difference in legality was that allowed them to boot even though they couldn't really enforce the tickets.

[–]TerpWork 4 points5 points ago

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parking in a private lot? they can't fine yo8 for it, but they can definitely get you towed for it, I presume.

[–]weezerisneat 5 points6 points ago

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I did the exact same thing. Once I figured this out, nothing was ever the same. The guy who owned a barber shop actually told me about it when I was a sophomore (his shop next to a school lot that he used all the time).

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points ago

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I thought about doing this at my school, but I just recently learned that the university police now cooperate with the city police in order to pursue parking violators.

[–]TheRiddler75 3 points4 points ago

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I go to a state university. University police have exactly the same powers as state police, and they go off your vehicle's license plate. There's no way around paying.

[–]nevado- 91 points92 points ago

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In Socialist Denmark, school pays you. Yeah, I get paid by the government for attending school. And we have free parking just by the buildings.

It's pretty awesome.

[–]hannie 23 points24 points ago

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school pays you

Explain?

[–]jeevo 54 points55 points ago

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Same in Sweden and a bunch of other countries i guess. The Government gives you contributions if you study at a university/after highschool level.

In Sweden they onle give you around 460$, but you can apply for an extra small intrest loan on around 1000$ each month. They also offer subsisied housing for students so rent might be around 250$ each month.

But my school actually charges 1$ a day for parking! But often anyone who studies there live at most 25 minutes away with bike so no biggie.

[–]rebel 38 points39 points ago

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Oh, you Swedes have it all don't you.

:/

Signed,

Disgruntled American.

[–]Stingray88 14 points15 points ago

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They pay it back and then some in taxes over the course of their entire working career. While it is still a much better system than the way the US works... don't be THAT jealous of them... the money comes from somewhere.

[–]AuntieSocial 13 points14 points ago

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It still works out to far less than most private tuitions, and possibly less than state colleges. Then they get health care and other stuff on top of it. I'd immigrate in a heartbeat if it weren't so fucking far north (I don't do well with cold).

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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UK have it pretty good compared to the US as well but nowhere near the Swedes. I read about Scandinavian education policy I envy them as well.

£3.2k == $5k tuition per year here, always covered by student loan for everyone. But free university and grants on top of that.....damn.

[–]serendib 2 points3 points ago

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It's amazing what you can accomplish when you're not waging wars

[–]MikeBruski 9 points10 points ago

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THIS.

About 1000$ a month. It's an amazing thing.

With a small interest loan it increases to a maximum of 7400 kr, or 1450$ a month... that you get for going to school, which is free.

You americans really ought to reconsider your "lower taxes" obsession.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points ago

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The U.S. pays me to attend school.

Plus I get a guaranteed job once I graduate, with subsidized housing, free health care, dental and food allowance.

If you want to live in a socialist America join the military.

[–]wruffx 19 points20 points ago

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Also, bullets!

[–]arcticblue 6 points7 points ago

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This is true. Just do 4 years active duty (while active duty, you have 100% tuition assistance if you can find the time to get some classes done) then start going to college full time using the GI Bill. They'll pay for a good chunk of your school plus give you a decent housing allowance. Doesn't apply to online schools though.

[–]rufusdog 6 points7 points ago

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$20,000 per year? That may be more than your annual salary after you graduate.

[–]Didji 6 points7 points ago

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It took me 10 minutes to work out that didn't say Gilbert Gottfried.

[–]WallyPenguin 6 points7 points ago

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A friend of mine had to pay for his parking spot outside of his dormitory. In the middle of the football season, the university decided to placate the football fans by providing them more parking near the stadium. That meant that a notice went to my friend and everyone else living in the dorm stating that, the night before a game, the residents would have to remove their cars from their parking spaces so that football fans could park there. The residents could not return them to their parking spaces until the day after the game, and failure to comply would result in a ticket and possibly a towing. Also, the university would not refund students for the days that they were not allowed to park in the spaces they had already paid for. Ridiculous and, in my estimation, fraudulent.

[–]keioloaf 2 points3 points ago

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Happened to me at my university. My parking spot is a five minute walk from my dorm, but about half a mile from the football stadium. They left notices on my car every week telling me I might need to move my car while at the same time sending e-mails saying I wouldn't have to since I wasn't in certain parking lots. Well, a few days after a game I found out my car was towed from the spot, left on top of the parking garage at the basketball complex, and given four days worth of tickets. This was before they had the courtesy to notify me, since I only use my car once or twice a month and don't check it often.

[–]halcy 8 points9 points ago

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Use bike, have no problems with parking, ever.

[–]lairdweller 2 points3 points ago

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...yet another reason why I ride a motorcycle. If you live in an urban area and haven't invested in a bike, or at least a scooter, you're dealing with way more frustration than necessary.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points ago

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The crime isn't the lack of parking.

The crime is that any student pays anywhere close to $20,000 a year to attend any university in the US.

Build a few less military aircraft, close a few overseas bases, get by with a few less nuclear subs, and fund some goddamned education in this country!

Why the fuck should a 22 year old kid leave college $80K in debt?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points ago

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The school I went to had such a bad parking problem, they had to build a special lot off campus for freshman to keep their cars during the week. They also had a problem filling up their dorms with enough students. Naturally, my sophomore year they got rid of one of the largest parking lots on campus in order to build a dorm on top of it.

[–]Pinot911 53 points54 points ago

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Or you could bike, or take the bus, to save money to pay for that $20k.

[–]matt_havener 36 points37 points ago

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question my car based society? how dare you. parking my car 20 steps from any business is a human right

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points ago

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....but free college education isn't.

[–]LOLNONSENSE 11 points12 points ago*

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It's funny how people are downvoting you, as though every student should be forced to pay for OP's parking in their tuition, even if they don't have a car.

On the contrary, students should not be penalized for walking/biking/using public transportation to get around campus.

As great as it would be to have an inexhaustible supply of parking ramp skyscrapers in St. Louis, I'm sure some darned neighborhood committee would gum up the works.

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points ago

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Tuition isn't ala carte. I had to pay for a city bus pass as a part of my tuition that I never used, but some people did. I had to pay a special technology fee for the computer labs that I also didn't use. Point is, tuition goes to a lot of things regardless if a person uses them or not.

[–]freshmas 12 points13 points ago

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Like sports. What the fuck?

[–]rawrsauce 2 points3 points ago

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I had to pay for the privilege to use the recreation center and sports regardless of whether I participated at all. Though the $250 computer lab fee was well worth it as it supported the open 24 hour library/lab and had free printing no limits. i had to pay $200 to park on campus as a resident.

[–]bubas 3 points4 points ago

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If you don't live in university housing, you don't pay the school for room & board. Why should parking be so different?

(It still sucks that your school made you buy a city bus pass.)

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points ago

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Got a $50 ticket once for parking in the deserted, 500-spot lot next to the football stadium in the middle of summer when I had a class

7am class that I had to commute 45 miles to while working 40 hours a week, and the asshole parking department guy actually scoffed at me when I said I needed a permit to park somewhere closer than 2 miles away.

[–]justinmeister 4 points5 points ago

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Public transit, yo.

[–]KingPharaoh 3 points4 points ago

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Why do you go to these colleges that charge ridiculous prices?

In Scotland education is free...

[–]fishpen0 2 points3 points ago

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Because if I went to Scotland they would make me pay as if I were still going to school in the US.

[–]KibblesnBitts 3 points4 points ago

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Rutgers University made ~$2 million in parking tickets last Fall alone, all this was according to the head of transportation services.

[–]Joe_12265 2 points3 points ago

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It is pretty rare that there is literally not enough parking. People just hate walking.

[–]valid_username 2 points3 points ago

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Heads up British Redditors. This is coming our way.

[–]doctor_alligator 2 points3 points ago

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[–]handen 2 points3 points ago

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I go to school for free but pay $50,000/day for parking. To be fair, I drive a limousine with a pool in the back, and I attend clown college.

[–]GuyverII 2 points3 points ago

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This is one of the biggest moneymaking scams at many colleges/universities nationwide.

[–]sceneeater 7 points8 points ago

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Go Gorlocks! I graduated in 2007, and still owe hundreds of dollars for parking tickets. Your options there are to park in an assigned spot and get a ticket, or park at the nearby catholic girls school and look like a pedobear.

[–]duxup 6 points7 points ago

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I don't mind reserving the spot for the dude, but the "Is it worth it?" asstastic addendum there is a bit much.

Where I am the Mrs. goes to grad school and the university is downtown. They have great mass transportation options so that helps the parking situation for some folk but we live out in the burbs and there isn't a convenient / cost effective way to get into where mass transportation picks up and then get to the university from there. It stinks.

[–]OEP 3 points4 points ago

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The U of Alabama sends a privatized shuttle out to these really expensive apartments in the boonies. It drives right by where I live.... but doesn't stop. :(

Losing my parking decal was therefore a fucking impossible situation. They told me it couldn't be replaced without a police report, so I filed a police report. They said it couldn't be replaced without forcible entry marked on my report, so they stuck me with the responsibility of replacing it (pay $160 again). There wasn't really a good option to pay out the rest of the semester at a properly proportioned price, so I paid for more than what I needed. It ended up some fuck had stolen it, so it turned out better than expected.

But every day... every fucking day... I had to watch that shuttle run by my apartment as the rich kids who got tricked into living out in the boonies rode by laughing...

[–]MrBarry 8 points9 points ago

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When you plopped down your $20k, you answered that question. They can only charge you what you will pay.

[–]mmarenyi 2 points3 points ago

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You want to talk about no parking? I go to UNC in the town of Chapel Hill, population 54,432. There are 675 spots in the ENTIRE TOWN! 215 are metered and the rest require permits. I'm not exagerating when I say there is literally no where to park.

/dickmeasuringcontest

Edit: typo

[–]ContentWithOurDecay 2 points3 points ago

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Anyone else go their entire time in college without a car?

[–]spaceman_spliff88 2 points3 points ago

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Gary Gottlieb strikes again. Word up to my gorloks.

[–]frakking_you 2 points3 points ago

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I have calculated that based on enforcement schedules, yes, it is. I have stopped paying for student parking and started parking in administrators' parking spaces. Based on the cost and availability of student parking vs. the cost and availability of administrators parking and the frequency with which I get tickets by moving my car at the right times, I come out ahead. This semester alone, I have spent $330 less in tickets than I would have for a student parking pass. On top of that I save 15 minutes each way when I park in a spot I wouldn't have otherwise had access to. Since most school days I would go to my car 2x, that also translates to approximately an hour a day.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points ago

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Ride a bike.

[–]bobandy47 11 points12 points ago

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Hmm, at $1300 per semester, couldn't you just hire a chauffeured vehicle?

...I'm talking Taxi here folks. At $50/week you offset at 50 weeks a year to hit a 3 semester year.

Considering that a semester is what, 16 weeks, at $50/week (give or take) you're at $800. And now you aren't paying for fuel or insurance. Or for the car.

And you dont even have to drive. Or be around those smelly bus people

WIN!

/buying 'exiting' people's parking passes at discount ftw.

[–]kstrike155 35 points36 points ago

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Where on Earth do you live that $50 will get you a week's worth of cab rides?

That's TWO cab rides in the Boston area.

[–]myrandomname 15 points16 points ago

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I think it's interesting that this thread is full of people bragging about how they scammed out on not paying for parking at their various schools, but everyone in the truck parked in 3 places thread was all up in arms about how that person should be paying extra and shouldn't be inconveniencing people, etc.

Ridiculous parking fees aside, if you aren't paying for it, how is what this guy did any different?

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points ago

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It would only really be interesting if the people were the same in both threads.

[–]megablast 3 points4 points ago

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Drivers aren't really rational, they hate other drivers, but get upset when cities try to reduce congestion.

The fact is, most drivers hate all car drivers, except themselves.

[–]pliu22 3 points4 points ago

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Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac? -- George Carlin

[–]LOLNONSENSE 19 points20 points ago

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Okay, so the question is "how is parking in 3 spaces different from parking in 1 space?"

Answer: 2

[–]wreckemtech 11 points12 points ago

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Okay, so the question is "how is parking in 3 free spaces different from parking in 1 $50 space?"

Answer: $50

I had to FTFY, your answer was complete nonsense.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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If reddit was one entity, I would call it a hypocrite.

Truck takes up space - fuck you, don't pay parking or tickets

Tips are stupid, proceed to ban black people from your restaurant because "they don't tip"

Always credit the creator allowing them to benefit, pirate everything

To name a few...

[–]fireburt 17 points18 points ago*

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May I direct you all to /r/bicycling.

EDIT: To be clear, although I bike to class every day unless there are multiple feet of unplowed snow, I'm not trying to be a self-righteous annoying cyclist. Just trying to make a joke.

Double edit: As I now read more of this thread, the school in question is apparently in Missouri so now I'm going to be more self-righteous. Ride your bike! It's fun, I promise!

[–]fishpen0 54 points55 points ago

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May I direct you to /r/winter and /r/snow

[–]tommytallarico 15 points16 points ago

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Minneapolis is the second most popular cyclist city and is ranked first in total bike lanes and facilities in America.

They have balls there.

[–]epooka 4 points5 points ago

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Cold, cold balls.

[–]nemetroid 6 points7 points ago

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I grew up at 64°N and I've always biked all year round.

[–]deighv 6 points7 points ago

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Some places aren't that great at clearing streets/sidewalks.

[–]CedarMadness 2 points3 points ago

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[–]huevos 2 points3 points ago

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What a lot of people seem to be missing is that parking facilities are not used by everyone, so rolling parking costs into everyone's tuition and having non-drivers subsidize drivers simply doesn't make sense. To truly gauge if parking is a rip off, you have to look at unsubsidized real estate in the /immediate area/ and compare the rent/sqft to the parking cost. When you look at it this way, may be surprised.

I've found that most of the time, university parking rates are high because of two reasons. Either space is at premium and the spaces are priced accordingly in terms of a reasonable rent/sqft, or parking is so limited on campus that they need to price parking permits to find a equilibrium between parking spaces used and parking spaces available.

[–]jupiterkansas 2 points3 points ago

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You have to pay parking fees so they can afford to hire someone to go around giving tickets to people who don't pay parking fees.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points ago

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I hate it when people bitch incessantly for "more parking"!

THIS is what unlimited parking looks like, and it's the reason our downtowns are dead, boring, and everyone is fat.

[–]swiheezy 10 points11 points ago

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When I got a parking ticket this year I wrote a note saying "I hope you're taking this money from mine, as well as everybody elses, countless tickets to build more parking spots"

They haven't listened yet :(

[–]simps984 93 points94 points ago

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Your note is still being processed by the grammar police.

[–]NotClever 8 points9 points ago

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Parking was free at my school until about 3 years before I started there. They claimed they were having a big problem with people from the community using our parking spaces. I never really got this as we were in a residential area of a sprawling city, so unless they were going somewhere on campus it would be a 10 or so minute walk to anything useful. Anyway, they put in a parking gate system to deal with it.

They then claimed that they were only going to charge for parking to recoup the cost of the parking system (something ridiculous like $2 or 3 million to gate maybe 8 parking lots). It's been almost 10 years, they've raised prices every year (freshmen when I graduated years ago had to pay something like $400 a year for a spot), and they give shitloads of tickets out at $25 a pop. I think people on average paid about $150 a year in tickets, just from either forgetting to move your car when a lot switched from all access to faculty only in the morning or getting slammed for going over the 10 minute limit on curbside parking despite only being there for 9 minutes. There is basically no way they haven't recouped their costs.

[–]thatmorrowguy 3 points4 points ago

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Let me guess - Rice University.

[–]NotClever 2 points3 points ago

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Oh snap!

[–]metaspore 1 point2 points ago

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I was expecting Gary to be a giant tub-'o-lard. He isn't!

[–]Lomik 1 point2 points ago

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Webster in St Louis?

[–]stereosaurus 2 points3 points ago

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Yup that's their logo. I live near here at the moment, you can park in my driveway for $10 or some pizza from Pi.

[–]Izanaki 1 point2 points ago

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The government pays me 6600€ ($9100) a year for me to study in free college.

Fuck yeah socialism.

The parking sucks here too though.

[–]Chevellephreak 1 point2 points ago

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$2300 a semester tuition, and $400 a semester for parking. But only if you live outside of the city, can you get a pass. So I have to pay $2.50 an hour which sucks. But at least I don't have to knock over a bank to pay tuition!

[–]bitchinmona 1 point2 points ago

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$20k? Bargain.

[–]hunkacheese 1 point2 points ago

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$24,000 a year and free bus rides in the area with a student card. Go state school!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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Get someone to park a big dumpster in his spot. Spite is cool.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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You pay $20k a year to go to a school called Webster University!?

[–]jollyllama 1 point2 points ago

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If you think the price of parking at your university is a travesty, I say the real shame is that your school hasn't taught you basic economic principles of prices.

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I go to Virginia Tech and there is no parking because they oversell parking passes between double or triple what the expected load will be. And all the Northern Virginia brats drive even when they live less than 2 miles away and could walk or bike. Seriously, 5 minutes on a bike, 15-20 minute walk, or 30 minutes circling parking lots that are 5-10 min walk from campus when you live only 2 miles away?

They don't have actual bike racks though, they are U bars that you drop in wet concrete and at least 9/10 come right out of the ground.

Fuck universities.

[–]SlackingOffAtSchool 1 point2 points ago

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Ride a bike, maybe we could solve some of the fat problem.

[–]austin63 1 point2 points ago

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Buy a bike.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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School is a scam.

[–]not_ewe 1 point2 points ago

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I graduated from Webster University 5 years ago and found a way to curtail the parking dilemma. Every class day I would drive to one of the businesses around BB and Allen (i.e. McDonalds, Ben Franklin, that other restaurant...) with my bike strapped to my trunk and ride the hundred yards up Lockwood to class. I would just leave it in one of the stairwells. Didn't even have to lock it. Sucked when it rained though...

[–]thefatbrat 1 point2 points ago

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$55,000 a year...yep. sallie mae is a bitch I can't get rid of

[–]SeparateCzechs 1 point2 points ago

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Hooray for St. Louis Redditors!

[–]ArcaneDinosaur 1 point2 points ago

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I think parking sucks at any school. Bike riding! I would park a little off campus and then ride my bike around campus. Of course that is when I had a sweet VW bus to carry my bike around.. now I just get to school way before class to find parking.

I miss bike riding :(

[–]squatdeadpress 1 point2 points ago

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I pay $1600 a semester for a full course load in Canada... at a pretty reputable school. You guys must be so in debt by the time you get out of University...

[–]whoawut 1 point2 points ago*

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Have you seen how many goddamn bikes there are at UC Santa Barbara? It looks like China in the early 1980s.