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[–]Ojai 208 points209 points ago

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Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.

[–]Petrarch1603 77 points78 points ago

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I once heard a story, i think it might be from Sagan: If you are on the beach and you cup both your hands and pick up a big lump of sand, that's about equal to all the stars visible to the naked eye, but all the stars in the universe are more numerous than every grain of sand on the entire earth.

[–]juggle 50 points51 points ago

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yep, that was Carl Sagan. Also, I did some napkin math, and came to the conclusion that there is so many stars in the universe, that every single human being could have 10 trillion stars each.

[–]zolaar 86 points87 points ago

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We can???

Dibs on The Sun!

[–]istara 28 points29 points ago

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Fuck the Sun. Dibs on W Cephai, and the Canis Majoris one.

[–]prognost 11 points12 points ago

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HA! What use are those stars? zolaar's got us now, he can hold the whole Earth hostage by threatening to turn the Sun off.

[–]zolaar 29 points30 points ago

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[–]turbog3 8 points9 points ago

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I for one, welcome our new Sun-Squeezer Overlord: Zolaar!

All glory to zolaar!

[–]doyoulikeworms 5 points6 points ago

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All hail zolaar! It does have a nice scifi-ey ring to it.

[–]tugteen 3 points4 points ago

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from now on whenever i use solar, it's gonna be zolaar brand solar.

[–]tonasinanton 20 points21 points ago

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I call betelgeuse.

[–]tonasinanton 21 points22 points ago

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Betelgeuse.

[–]tonasinanton 19 points20 points ago

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betelgeuse

[–]ruxxell 30 points31 points ago

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ITS SHOWTIME

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points ago

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Whatever. I generally prefer the dwarf stars in order to give my races more time to evolve.

[–]sebso 4 points5 points ago

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[–]clea 12 points13 points ago

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80 points simply for quoting HHGTTG!!

I think you ought to know I'm feeling very depressed.

[–]andygood 5 points6 points ago

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Brain the size of a planet?

[–]supermeerkat 3 points4 points ago

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Terrible pain in all diodes down your left side?

[–]istara 47 points48 points ago

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And to think that Our Lord God has created something so vast in just 6,000 years!

We may be small and young, but We Are His Chosen Planet!!!

[–]robosatan 18 points19 points ago*

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Actually, it takes god 2 days to create the Earth and the Sun (and presumably the other planets. The fact god forgot to tell people who didn't know about the other planets is a bit of a mystery but I'll let that be for now). It also takes a full 7 days to make a system with 1 planet that has life.

Assuming god did not create life on any other planets, it would have taken him:

Number of Stars in the observable universe x Number of days to create star and planet.

Or

9 × 1021 x 2 = 18,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 days

Or

49,315,068,493,150,700,000 years

Or

49,315,068,493,150,700 Millenia

Or

3,964,757,709,251 (Scientifically Estimated) Ages of the Earth

That's one pretty dedicated creator.

[–]808140 17 points18 points ago

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What makes you think He creates them sequentially, hm?

It's going to take a lot more than casually ignoring the omnipotent nature of God to convince the faithful of some claptrap about a billion year old universe. The Bible, that infallible source of wisdom, says otherwise, and quite explicitly. To wit, Jeremiah 23:24:

Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? saith the LORD. Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the LORD.

Yes, God is everywhere, and all at once, robosatan. Even in hell -- one day you will see as much.

I will pray for you!

(This simulated Christian response has been formulated for your reading enjoyment by 808140, who reminds you not to engage Christians in debate unless you know something about what they believe.)

[–]robosatan 6 points7 points ago

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What makes you think He creates them sequentially, hm?

Then why would an omipotent being who IS the past, the present and the future, lack foresight in what he wanted to create? eg, not create it allllll at the same time.

(This simulated Athiest response has been formulated for your reading enjoyment by Robosatan, who reminds you that Christians don't know how to debate.)

[–]808140 37 points38 points ago*

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Don't know how to debate? You must not spend much time talking with them. They'll debate everything you say, and passionately.

The reason you don't reach them is because your arguments are founded on a lack of even an appearance of respect for their positions.

Your attitude boils down to: "You're stupid, and I'm telling you what's true, because I know better than you. To prove it, I'll throw you poorly thought-out versions of age-old philosophical quandaries that Christian thinkers have been pondering seriously since the Middle Ages as if they haven't been addressed before. I'm so smart amirite?"

I mean seriously, next you're going to ask about the problem of evil or about God making a rock he can't lift and look all smug like, you know, there aren't thousands of books written by Jesuits from the 16th century on just those subjects.

It's funny: as a liberal atheist I spend more time on Reddit defending or explaining the positions of conservatives and religious folks than my own beliefs, because Reddit has become such an echo chamber that even manifestly stupid criticisms of conservative or religious positions get modded up.

It's like some weird, liberal version of Fox News -- you know how on Fox News, every liberal is a caricature, a freedom-hating commie, and how the anchors routinely build straw men out of supposedly liberal positions and knock them down effortlessly while the other folks in the newsroom look on an laugh?

That's what Reddit has become -- particularly politics Reddit. Someone makes some poorly articulated and often nonsensical or hysterical swipe at them or what they supposedly believe (OMG, did you know that Republicans eat teh babies?!) and gets modded up to double digits.

In the meantime, someone with something between his ears points out that, actually, you know, that's not really true, and finds himself negative in no time because, well, cheap shots are what Reddit is about I guess.

Don't take this rant personally, Robosatan, it's not about you. I'm just getting sick of the lack of basic thought that seems to go into posts, and am increasingly tempted to just troll the shit out of people for kicks.

[–]bw1870 4 points5 points ago*

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I can have perfectly civilized discussions about my atheistic world views with several close Christian friends, but I rarely see atheists give religious people much respect for their views online.

Part of that is because real world conversations are different than those online. Most people are naturally more respectful face-to-face than if they are talking about someone that isn't present. The internet, unfortunately, amplifies that. It's like gossiping behind someone's back, except nobody will ever even know it was you.

The other thing I've come to realize is that most conversation don't have much real content. Truly engaging discussions are noteworthy even in person, so it's not really reasonable to expect them consistently online.

Trolling for kicks will just leave you bitter, though I guess you'll have a few laughs.

[–]tach 2 points3 points ago

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Interesting.

How do christians in the US deal with the fact of possible extra-terrestrial life?

If they don't deny it, how do they deal with Jesus the saviour?

Did it come to earth just to wash terran sins away, or alpha-centaurians sins are included too? If not, does an alpha-centaurian jesus exist?

Also - Adam's original sin also doomed alpha-centaurians? If so, why? They had nothing to do with humans.

Also, alpha-centaurians are human? God did made them as its image?

[–]charliie 3 points4 points ago*

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tach typed, "How do christians in the US deal with the fact of possible extra-terrestrial life?"

Abraham 3:12-13 (Abraham is shown many stars.) Thus I, Abraham, talked with the Lord, face to face, as one man talketh with another; and he told me of the works which his hands had made; And he said unto me: My son, my son (and his hand was stretched out), behold I will show you all these [stars]. And he put his hand upon mine eyes, and I saw those things which his hands had made, which were many; and they [stars] multiplied before mine eyes, and I could not see the end thereof.

Moses 1:29,33,35,37-39 (LDS in the US believe in extra-terestrial life) 29 And he [Moses] beheld many lands; and each land was called earth, and there were inhabitants on the face thereof. 33 And worlds without number have I created; and I also created them for mine own purpose; and by the Son I created them, which is mine Only Begotten. 35 But only an account of this earth, and the inhabitants thereof, give I unto you. For behold, there are many worlds that have passed away by the word of my power. And there are many that now stand, and innumerable are they unto man; but all things are numbered unto me, for they are mine and I know them. 37 And the Lord God spake unto Moses, saying: The heavens, they are many, and they cannot be numbered unto man; but they are numbered unto me, for they are mine. 38 And as one earth shall pass away, and the heavens thereof even so shall another come; and there is no end to my works, neither to my words. 39 For behold, this is my work and my glory—to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man.

tach typed, "If they don't deny it, how do they deal with Jesus the saviour?"

Moses 1:33 33 And worlds without number have I created; and I also created them for mine own purpose; and by the Son I created them, which is mine Only Begotten.

tach typed, "Did [He] come to earth just to wash terran sins away, or alpha-centaurians sins are included too? If not, does an alpha-centaurian jesus exist?"

I cannot easily locate references in a timely fashion, however, LDS are of the mind that the Lord also atones for all of His work, meaning his work outside of this earth, but this is not the official stance I believe and I'm only going by memory.

tach typed, "Also - Adam's original sin also doomed alpha-centaurians? If so, why?"

Adams transgression did not doom alpha-centaurians (aliens), because (of three things) alpha-centaurians are not literal descendants of Adam, they were not put under Adam's dominion (Genesis 1:26,28; 2:19), nor did they exist in the same time frame (before the time of repentence Alma 42:4-10 wherein Adam was not subject to death) as Adam at the time of the transgression. The penality for sin (death) extends by lineage (Exodus 20:5:34:7; Numbers 14:18; Deut. 5:9; D&C 103:26).

Genesis 2:19 19 And out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

Gen. 1:26 26 ...and let them (mankind) have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Alma 42:4 4 And thus we see, that there was a time granted unto man to repent, yea, a probationary time, a time to repent and serve God.

tach typed, "Also, alpha-centaurians are human? God did made them as its image?"

By revelation we believe that the Lord created many worlds.

If need be I will explain further and try to cite more references if asked.

[–]brainburger 4 points5 points ago

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That's one pretty dedicated creator.

I guess there are 4 ways out of this for a theist.

  1. He didn't make any other planets (or not many)

  2. He multitasked.

  3. He got faster with practise.

  4. Wibble.

[–]adrianmonk 10 points11 points ago

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You forgot #5, which is that God uses lazy evaluation. He creates planets right before we first see them. And up until the time some shmuck invented the telescope, his job was easy. This is, of course, the real reason he had the church go after Galileo.

[–]robosatan 3 points4 points ago

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I like #3.

4 isn't bad either but after all these years of the meme anything other than "4. profit" feels wrong.

[–]chilehead 2 points3 points ago

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since you're going all religious, shouldn't that be: "4. Prophet"

[–]supermeerkat 2 points3 points ago

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On the subject of the H2G2, viewing all of the Universe is the ultimate punishment.

The Total Perspective Votex derives its picture of the whole Universe on the principle of extrapolated matter analyses.

To explain--since every piece of matter in the Universe is in some way affected by every other piece of matter in the Universe, it is in theory possible to extrapolate the whole of creation--every sun, every planet, their orbits, their composition, and their economic and social history from, say, one small piece of fairy cake.

The man who invented the Total Perspective Vortex did so basically in order to annoy his wife.

Trin Tragula--for that was his name--was a dreamer, a thinker, a speculative philosopher or, as his wife would have it, an idiot.

And she would nag him incessantly about the utterly inordinate amount of time he spent staring out into space, or mulling over the mechanics of safety pins, or doing spectrographic analyses of pieces of fairy cake.

"Have some sense of proportion!" she would say, sometimes as often as thirty-eight times in a single day.

And so he built the Total Perspective Vortex--just to show her.

And into one end, he plugged the whole of reality as extrapolated from a piece of fairy cake, and into the other, he plugged his wife: so that when he turned it on she saw in one instant the whole infinity of creation and herself in relation to it.

To Trin Tragula's horror, the shock completely annihilated her brain, but to his satisfaction he realized that he had proved conclusively that if life is going to exist in a Universe of this size, then one thing it cannot afford to have is a sense of proportion.

[–]scoopscalibur 16 points17 points ago

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+2 internets for your Douglas Adams reference.

[–]CheapyPipe 18 points19 points ago

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I use my +2 Internets to attack the Troll.

1d20+2 for 5d8!

[–]FeepingCreature 6 points7 points ago

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1d20+2 for 5d8!

Wait .. what?

[–]wkdown 5 points6 points ago

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Jesus saves, and takes half-damage

[–]Wadsworth 10 points11 points ago

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Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is

Is it big, or infinite?

I lean towards infinite, but that's just my gut reaction and nothing more.

[–]asereth 36 points37 points ago

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If it isn't infinite... what else is there? Do you reach the end of space and hit an impermeable wall? Is there another space on the other side of that? The Earth reminds me too much of the nucleus in BritishEnglishPolice's comment. Are we just part of a larger organism, our actions and concept of life as insignificant to something else as bacteria is to us?

These are the questions that- quite literally- keep me up at night

[–]TyPower 54 points55 points ago*

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Try to stay with the infinite part. Let it settle. Let it sink in a bit, the infinity, the endlessness of space. If space is infinite, then it follows that every point in space is the center of the universe. Time is the only "phenomenon" that can mark out the perceived distance between "seperate" "things". And the mind is the place where space and time and things are "witnessed" by... somebody. The mind is the place where the experience of infinity "takes place". The mind, quite possibly, is infinity itself.

On closer inspection, time is to space, as memory is to mind. The one records the infinity of the other. Distance in the universe is measured by time, but if distance is infinite (because there will always be more space to measure) then measurement is merely arbitrary and a function for someone's use (to get from A to B). In the same way, memory records the infinite experiences of the mind (by using time itself to narrow down infinity into a series of comprehensible "moments") A side effect of this is the creation of a "self". He who is the "owner" of the mind, the dweller in space. Memory of the many yesterdays reinforces the solidness of the self's position as the one who is "being here".

The self blocks infinity (quite accidently) by failing to notice the memory store is moment by moment "judging, allowing, measuring" that which is infinitely appearing before it (experience). The stain of the many yesterdays destroys possibility by categorizing the "infinitely new", the present itself (all that there is), into a mere moment on a long chain supposedly stretching from the far past(my first memory) to some future terminus point (my death?). Either way, infinity is locked down, unseen, and the self suffers for being seperated from all that is (the universe).

[–]asurroca 41 points42 points ago

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So, the universe is like Gmail, infinitely expanding, and still in beta.

[–]waynemr 5 points6 points ago

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I sense a tshirt design in there somewhere...

[–]alarumba 28 points29 points ago

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Think I'll buy a new motorbike tomorrow.

[–]brainburger 2 points3 points ago

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Good idea. I'm gonna have another of those donuts.

[–]discohead 5 points6 points ago

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Brilliant idea, I say.

[–]enniocesar 7 points8 points ago

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Beautifully said. Unfortunately, reddit prides itself on quantifying everything and "developing" upon these imagined scaffolds.

"Experience must be made primary,the language of the self must be made primary"-Terence McKenna

[–]SlipstreamInsane 5 points6 points ago

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Albert Camus, is that you?

[–]catsfive 2 points3 points ago*

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Great post, very interesting, but, as a whole, so much of this feels to me like the "flat earth" belief back in the middle ages. Why couldn't there be a universe that's "round" but on the inside? If you "sail" too far, you end up back in India or England, whichever, where you started from in the first place. Scientists (especially of the "holographic" variety are already saying that certain portions of the universe resemble themselves).

Don't laugh. I'm not looking for upvotes, really. This fractal universe makes me think I'm being quite serious.

[–]a-lady 16 points17 points ago*

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There are three general possibilities. First, like your balloon, the universe might have what we call positive curvature, like a sphere. In this case, which we call a "closed" universe, the universe would be finite in size but without a boundary, just like the balloon. In a closed universe, you could, in principle, fly a spaceship far enough in one direction and get back to where you started from. Closed universes are also closed in time: they eventually stop expanding, then contract in a "Big Crunch." All the geometry that is true on a sphere is also true in a closed unvierse: parallel lines eventually converge (e.g. longitude lines are parallel at the equator, but converge at the poles), large triangles have more than 180 degrees, etc.

The second possibility is that the universe is flat. This kind of universe you can imagine by cutting out a piece of your baloon material and stretching it with your hands. The surface of the material is flat, not curved, but you can expand and contract it by tugging on either end. Flat universes are infinite in spatial extent, and have no boundaries. Parallel lines are always parallel and triangles always have 180 degrees. Flat universes expand forever, but the expansion rate approaches zero.

Finally, the universe might be "open," or have negative curvature. Such universes are sort of saddle-shaped. They are also infinite and unbounded. Parellel lines eventually diverge, and triangles have less than 180 degrees. Open universes expand forever, with the expansion rate never approaching zero.

http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=62

[–]atomicthumbs 10 points11 points ago

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If you somehow travel faster than light and go past the edge of the universe you become undefined

[–]myotheralt 9 points10 points ago

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Error: Div by 0.

[–]lightspeed23 2 points3 points ago

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Reboot

[–]kylelee 4 points5 points ago*

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In order for there to be a wall, wouldn't there have to be something on the other side?

[–]exomniac 2 points3 points ago

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Yeah. Ed Harris.

[–]stillalone 5 points6 points ago

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Unfortunately as long as we get all our information about the universe at light speed we won't know.

[–]Chyndonax[!] 3 points4 points ago

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Space itself is probably infinite. But what about the portion of it populated by stars and galaxies? If the Big Bang theory is accurate then populated space if finite.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points ago

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From my understanding – IANAC (Cosmologist), this is based on research I did on the subject years ago in high school, but you can find info on Wikipedia – we can't really tell with our current understanding. But either way, assuming it's expanding at the speed of light, a speed which we can't attain, it really is effectively infinite.

[–]potatogun 1 point2 points ago

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Thank you. I came here to read this.

[–]mrmaster2 1 point2 points ago

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Anyone who has ever taken a reasonably powerful hallucinogenic drug would be able to tell you this.

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[–]FerrisWheelOnFire 39 points40 points ago

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I guess we're kind of average?

[–]Palchez 39 points40 points ago

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It's not the amount of mass that matters, it's how you transfer energy....in a boat....penis.

[–]hamster101 1 point2 points ago

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Nicely done there. For a moment I thought you couldn't finish that.

[–]unusedusername 10 points11 points ago

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BAM!

[–]Seeders 11 points12 points ago

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i always wonder if theres a loop at some point.

[–]Pinecone 29 points30 points ago

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I lost comprehension when I got to Sirius.

[–][deleted] 47 points48 points ago

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You cant be Sirius.

[–]dekz 10 points11 points ago

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Didn't sirius die in the 5th book?

[–]tapnclick 9 points10 points ago

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I can't believe how fast this thread is going to the dogs.

[–]deathbytray 14 points15 points ago

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No kidding. We haven't even mentioned Uranus, and it already reeks.

[–]MechaAaronBurr 332 points333 points ago

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BAM! Average size planet.

[–]BritishEnglishPolice 26 points27 points ago

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Here's a direct link to something I posted recently, showing from the largest thing in the universe to the smallest:

link

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[–]mashtun 21 points22 points ago*

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Oh, shut up. Everytime I try to have sex with my ex-girlfriend she starts speaking in this Carl Sagan voice...like she is on Voyager. Just shut up.

And she tells me I'm pale.

[–]narwhals 19 points20 points ago*

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Maybe because she is your ex-girlfriend and is just shouting for help but you can't hear her properly because of the ski mask you are wearing?

[–]deadapostle 2 points3 points ago

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Maybe she's your current girlfriend in your reality, but she is in a future relativistic time after the point in time when she dumped your sorry ass.

[–]stillalone 5 points6 points ago

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I think he's trying to rub it in that he has had sex. Lets get him.

[–]supermeerkat 6 points7 points ago

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Yeah! I'll get an angry mob of peasants and you bring the pitchforkes and torches. We'll meet up at the old mill.

[–]DrBucket 2 points3 points ago

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The old mill's alright taken up by the witch hunter's, although we could tell them that mashtun is a witch and we could double our forces?

[–]Unlucky13 9 points10 points ago

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Got a link to the source? I vaguely remember it.

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[–]fr0chu 40 points41 points ago*

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Holy shit, I think Seth Rogen referenced this meme at a screening of Observe and Report last week. Someone asked him about the pervert's dick in the movie, and he said something to the effect of small penises are far funnier, although less pleasing on camera. "With a big dick, the audience isn't shocked. they just think 'well no shit; of course you'd show your dick, look at that thing.' But here, it's like BAM! Normal sized dick."

Ahh. good times.

Edit: Good times because of the movie, not the dick. I hate seeing dicks, on account of how straight I am.

[–]jugalator 46 points47 points ago

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I hate seeing dicks, on account of how straight I am.

Thank god, this is incredibly important!

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[–]bewarethetreebadger 2 points3 points ago

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I always knew we were small in the universe. But when I first saw the size of our sun compared to other ones, I was blown away.

[–]noobprodigy 20 points21 points ago

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Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving And revolving at nine hundred miles an hour, That's orbiting at nineteen miles a second, so it's reckoned, A sun that is the source of all our power. The sun and you and me and all the stars that we can see Are moving at a million miles a day In an outer spiral arm, at forty thousand miles an hour, Of the galaxy we call the 'Milky Way'.

Our galaxy itself contains a hundred billion stars. It's a hundred thousand light years side to side. It bulges in the middle, sixteen thousand light years thick, But out by us, it's just three thousand light years wide. We're thirty thousand light years from galactic central point. We go 'round every two hundred million years, And our galaxy is only one of millions of billions In this amazing and expanding universe.

The universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding In all of the directions it can whizz As fast as it can go, at the speed of light, you know, Twelve million miles a minute, and that's the fastest speed there is. So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure, How amazingly unlikely is your birth, And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space, 'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth.

[–]txtphile 4 points5 points ago

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I was hoping someone would put this here. And just because we have a good excuse:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buqtdpuZxvk

[–]pitrpatr 115 points116 points ago

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Yeah but did you see how bad we pwned the Moon? That motherfucker must feel pretty insignificant right now! Not only is it tiny as shit, but its name is just a capitalized version of what it is. Suck it, Lunarians!

I GUESS I'M THE ONLY ONE WHO REMEMBERED APRIL 13TH IS "HATE ON THE MOON DAY"

[–]sitruss 96 points97 points ago

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Oh look at me I'm the moon I'm all gray and dusty uh oh here come some humans in a foil thingy guess I'll just keep on spinnin' while they play CTF on my dumb surface derp duurrrrppppppp.

[–]BritishEnglishPolice 81 points82 points ago

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Hahaha, those are so his mannerisms.

[–]bongfarmer 16 points17 points ago*

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Yo and that dude dont even rotate! Man, even I can rotate! Stupid moon, I wish we had a cool one, like the one with methane oceans. YOU WERE AN ACCIDENT MOON< WHY DONT YOU JUST LEAVE AND STOP MAKING OUR DAYS LONGER WITH YOUR TIDAL BRAKING!

[–]joshcandoit4 6 points7 points ago

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Or does it just rotate at the same speed at it's equator exactly proportional to the speed it revolves around the earth? And if that is the case, is it cosmic coincidence or is there a reason that I can't think of...?

[–]Seeders 4 points5 points ago

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maybe its heaviest on that side, like its lopsided. since its been there so long its just facing that way like an arrow would. Pff, lopsided moon cant even be round.

[–]Chompy 13 points14 points ago

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You talk shit, but the moon has 5000 dimensions.

[–]Chompy 11 points12 points ago

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Don't question it!

[–]sweatervest 8 points9 points ago

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On the moon, nerds get spanked with moonrocks.

[–]teraflop 2 points3 points ago*

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Ironically, this April 13th was the 39th (not 40th) anniversary of the moon completely kicking our butts (in a sense).

EDIT: d'oh, math fail

[–]matthewcieplak 75 points76 points ago

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Thanks for the extra-low contrast! Nothing quite like recycling the content and degrading the quality.

[–]alphabeat 7 points8 points ago*

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I just thought space has extra-low contrast.

[–]diafygi 11 points12 points ago

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Not only is this a repost, it has a JJ.AM watermark.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points ago

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And your link is a repost of another repost. Reposts all the way down.

[–]sven8705 6 points7 points ago

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All this has happened before and all will happen again

[–]texture 9 points10 points ago

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This inspires me want to petition my government to invest more money in weapons.

Gotta protect my piece of the dust speck from those other dudes.

[–]mushpuppy 6 points7 points ago

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Yet still we think that all the crap we kill each other about is important.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points ago

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This makes me want to eat mushrooms for some reason.

[–]xauriel 21 points22 points ago

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And to think, God made all that just so some dude could get hung on a piece of wood to show us what a bunch of evil douchebags we are.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points ago

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Someone took the "pale blue dot" gif and made it into a single image? ALERT REDDIT.

[–]oaksw12 7 points8 points ago

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betelgeuse betelgeuse betelgeuse.

[–]shoehornhands 11 points12 points ago

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Note: Pictures not drawn to scale.

[–]freeloadr 4 points5 points ago

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[–]fraser11 17 points18 points ago

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minor existential crisis.... :(

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points ago

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[–]boat 7 points8 points ago

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what the hell was that?

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points ago

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It's from a show called Supernatural. In that episode a girl wished for her bear to come to life, and he's having an existential crisis because the world sucks.

[–]smpx 4 points5 points ago

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It's pedobear, when he realizes the dire consequences of his actions.

Seriously though, Supernatural is an awesome show.

[–]downfor0 2 points3 points ago

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Was he jacking off the first time they opened the door??

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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He was drinking and sobbing... I think?

[–]Lurking_Grue 2 points3 points ago

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Ummm, can we have your liver then?

[–]geneticlemon 4 points5 points ago

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I hate looking at that poster ... I get all nervous ... sweaty palms ...

[–]bnelson 7 points8 points ago

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You know I am sitting on my back porch. The city lights are not visible here. The stars are painfully clear. You look up at the vast expanse realizing that your limited human senses cannot even perceive the tiniest fraction of reality at any given point in time. No matter what you do you will always be on this insignificant speck of dirt and that there is no escape. We are all stuck here, wallowing in shit fighting for scraps while the universe slowly expands, ignorant to our struggle.

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[–]sumzup 2 points3 points ago

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Here's a video version of the star size progression. It's better than a series of pictures, I think.

[–]srikanthmeenakshi 5 points6 points ago

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Quick request for suggestion: I would like to give my non-technical, non-science-reading wife a book on astronomy which will enable her to think about the vastness of space and our tiny place in it.

Our life has some difficult-to-handle, incurable situations. I believe it will help us to realize that in the scheme of things, our concern for future is trivial.

Any suggestions?

[–]Robopuppy 2 points3 points ago

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Try Pale Blue Dot. It's where that quote I posted up above came from. For a non-science person, the writing can be a bit dense at times, but it's workable for the most part. Even if it's still too dense, the book is filled with high-resolution pictures of space, so it's still decent if read as nothing but a picture book.

[–]Smitzer 4 points5 points ago

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Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving, And revolving at nine hundred miles an hour

[–]lightspeed23 4 points5 points ago

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Maybe the entire universe is just in my head and you all don't really exist.

[–]whereverjustice 5 points6 points ago

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The large galaxy pictured here contains 8 times as many stars as our Milky Way. It is so large, it technically shouldn't exist according to current physics theories.

Really? I thought that, on the galactic level, current physics theories were pretty well developed. Does anyone know more about this?

[–]BluPotato 5 points6 points ago

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Seeing pictures like me always fill me with overwhelming terror about the sheer size of the galaxy. And to think the hugeness of the ocean use to get to me.

[–]ryanvm 3 points4 points ago

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Holy shit, those fonts are small.

[–]analseks 8 points9 points ago*

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How did we keep Hubble's telescope fixed to a spot for 4 months? Wouldn't Earth be thousand of miles away after 4 months?

[–]kakali 12 points13 points ago

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Thats a good question, but you need to keep things in perspective. What hubble was pointing at was so massive far away that any translation had from rotating the sun meant no measurable change an angle for hubble. 13 billion light years away is a very long distance.

[–]tehbored 21 points22 points ago

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We may be small, but God made us in his image.

[–]justinh_tx 11 points12 points ago

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Upmodded for sarcasm.

[–]pcdescha 12 points13 points ago

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A better version of this: http://atinyglimpse.ytmnd.com/

[–]hardcorerednext 2 points3 points ago

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Wow, just wow. And what really freaks me out is that we are hanging on sideways.

[–]keatsta 2 points3 points ago*

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I find the Voyager I turning around image to be much more profound. Sure, it's humbling to see how big stars are, but the size of them is nothing compared to the vastness in between them.

Got my Voyagers mixed up.

[–]bib4tuna 2 points3 points ago

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I hate/love stuff like this because it totally freaks me out. Thinking of how small and insignificant we are just blows my mind sometimes.

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[–]2_of_8 2 points3 points ago

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Largest star: 3,676,200,000 km Speed of light: 9,460,730,472,580 km/h

Time for light to travel between ends of largest star: 1.4 seconds

Did I do this right?

[–]banchai 5 points6 points ago

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Speed of light is only ~1,080,000,000 km/hr. Assuming that the largest star indeed has a diameter of 3,676,200,000 km, then it would take about 3.4 hrs for light to travel from one end to the other. A star that large is physically impossible as it will almost immediately collapse on itself.

Upon further research, the largest star (VY Canis Majoris) is estimated to be 2,100 times the diameter of our Sun making it 2,923,200,000 km across taking light roughly 2.7 hrs to travel from one end to the other.

This is still huge considering it takes about 8 minutes for light to travel from the Sun to the Earth.

[–]asw66 2 points3 points ago*

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So I'm guessing that VY Canis Majoris's circumference would be something like Jupiter's orbital path. Crikey!

[/shuffles off to do some research]

EDIT: As a matter of fact, it's a little more than the orbital path of Uranus. OK, my mind has just boggled.

[–]deathbytray 2 points3 points ago*

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Are you sure these aren't balls? Because last time, they were balls.

[–]SarahxJane 2 points3 points ago

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It really makes my brain hurt. With billions and billions of stars inside billions and billions of galaxies... and all those stars are like our sun. @___@

[–]Shuk 2 points3 points ago

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...and the ruler of all this is primarily concerned with partisan politics in the United States.

[–]smpx 2 points3 points ago

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Actually, he's both concerned with partisan politics and that super important super-important football playoff this Saturday against that other highschool team.

He's a multitasker, that one.

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This scares me somehow...

[–]elbekko 2 points3 points ago

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That last bit was interesting.

[–][deleted] 46 points47 points ago*

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This is the exact reason why I am an atheist. I don't understand how anyone could think that the universe was made for us when there are more things in the universe then we could ever possibly comprehend.

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This is the exact reason why I believe that there is a god. I don't understand how anyone could think that everything in the universe is here now because of coincidence when there are more things in the universe than we could ever possibly comprehend.

Note: Believing that there is a god/creator and believing that everything in the universe was "made for us" are two different things. Religion has blurred that line.

[–]microsofat 87 points88 points ago

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Well, looks like you two solved this thing once and for all.

[–][deleted] 88 points89 points ago

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This is the exact reason I'm agnostic. We can't know.

[–]whozurdaddy 70 points71 points ago

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This is the exact reason I'm Buddhist. There is nothing to know.

[–][deleted] 93 points94 points ago

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This is the exact reason I am a nihilist, none of it fucking matters

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[–]initialdproject 23 points24 points ago

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This is the exact reason I'm a Taoist. I just follow the way.

[–]Eduren 40 points41 points ago

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This is the exact reason I'm a Pastafarian, spaghetti tastes good.

[–]chilehead 2 points3 points ago

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This is the exact reason I'm a Republican. I like shiny pictures of the flag and people on TV that scream a lot and don't make me think. And blowing shit up.

[–]discohead 8 points9 points ago

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This is the exact reason I am.

[–]Seeders 4 points5 points ago

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There is no exact reason.

[–]cdnchps 6 points7 points ago

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The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. -Socrates

[–][deleted] 38 points39 points ago*

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I don't understand how anyone could think that everything in the universe is here now because of coincidence when there are more things in the universe than we could ever possibly comprehend.

Might you forgive me if I sarcastically state that I have never seen this before?

You're making a logical fallacy called the affirmation of the consequent. It takes the form "A implies B, B is true, therefore A is true." Paraphrasing and completing the unwritten in your reply, "An incompletely known universe harbors the potential for the existence of a god, the universe cannot be fully known, therefore god exists." I usually see this as an argument for agnosticism instead of gnostic deism.

In reality, the fact that we exist in a universe perfectly created for us is explained rationally by something called the weak anthropic principle. It states in layman's terms that the universe is of course perfect for life — if it weren't, we wouldn't have evolved in it.

In my opinion, the Judeo-Christian god, with his unitary focus on the societal conflicts of preindustrial savages seems small compared to the complexity of the universe. My god, if it exists at all, will come carrying a physics book that solves the riddles of our infinite universe all that is beyond — not bitching like a prude about queers and masturbators.

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In my opinion, the Judeo-Christian god, with his unitary focus on the societal conflicts of preindustrial savages seems small compared to the complexity of the universe. My god, if it exists at all, will come carrying a physics book that solves the riddles of our infinite universe all that is beyond — not bitching like a prude about queers and masturbators.

How is it that hardly any major religion has looked at science and concluded, "This is better than we thought! The Universe is much bigger than our prophets said, grander, more subtle, more elegant. God must be even greater than we dreamed"? Instead they say, "No, no, no! My god is a little god, and I want him to stay that way."

[–]dnifdoog 11 points12 points ago*

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i like this thought experiment i have been toying around with lately.

A - i am alive (i think, therefor i am)

B - i wouldn't be alive (as i know it) if this universe wasn't here

C - this universe is made for me

D - something made this universe. god?

E - who made god's god?

F - who made god!n |n->inf

G - god is a construct of man

H - man is god

I - A

if i wasn't here, this universe wouldn't exist to me. i created this universe when i was born. i will destroy it when i die.

it's cheesy but i like thinking about this.

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if i wasn't here, this universe wouldn't exist to me. i created this universe when i was born. i will destroy it when i die.

You have discovered solipsism.

[–]qqqqq5 6 points7 points ago

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Now I will destroy the whole world... - What a Bokononist says before committing suicide.

[–]bokononon 3 points4 points ago

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busy busy busy...

[–]Dr-No 4 points5 points ago

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You keep referring to this 'I' character. I'd suggest you try to figure out what this 'I' is first, then move to step B.

[–]catsfive 2 points3 points ago

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If you're looking for that explanation, it's because that dialogue "God" better explains our relationships with ourselves than with the material universe out there. That's where I think Christians are getting way, way off base.

[–]AM088 4 points5 points ago

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My god, if it exists at all, will come carrying a physics book that solves the riddles of our infinite universe all that is beyond — not bitching like a prude about queers and masturbators.

My God did not come carrying the physics book because what fun would it be if we knew all the answers?

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points ago*

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WTF is going on?!?! The "god" comment has more upvotes than the "atheist" comment.

[–]whozurdaddy 15 points16 points ago

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Easter guilt.

[–][deleted] 24 points25 points ago

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Wait, you mean a sensible argument countering a comment about atheism has been upvoted more than the original said comment? God help us all.

[–]BritishEnglishPolice 23 points24 points ago

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God help us all.

Don't start that again!

[–]mutatron 6 points7 points ago*

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What's sensible about that? Neither of those comments makes sense, unless by sense you mean "argument to ignorance".

[–]Skavenblight 9 points10 points ago

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I can't understand what steps led you from "Well, there sure are a lot of things in the universe!" to "So someone created it."

And the reason I can't understand it is that there are none. There is no reason to believe in God. Why would the complexity of the universe make it more likely for God to exist? It doesn't.

By your brand of reasoning, I could say that everything in the bottom of the sea was created by some divine entity, simply because there's a whole world of things we don't understand down there.

There is simply no logical step between "This thing is complex" and "So it was created by a sentient being".

[–]sniperdogruffo 10 points11 points ago

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I think that's the gray area of the atheist/theist debate. Both use the magnificence and awe-inspiring qualities of nature and the Universe to support their argument. Personally, I don't really think it makes a difference, as a scientist I just want to understand what surrounds me. Whether there is or not a power behind the grandeur of the Cosmos is beyond my line of work.

Yet, there would be no way for me to be satisfied with the belief that a deity is behind every single phenomena and occurrence in one's life. In my experience such could not be an explanation capable of satisfying any mind that is truly curious. If anything, it only promotes conformity and kills the inherent desire to know more and more importantly, to question logically that which is thought to be set in stone.

[–]monosyllabic 7 points8 points ago*

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Theists like to think there is a deity governing every single occurrence in one's life because it gives them a sense of calm knowing that everything is out of their hands and into God's. Why, if there is a god, would he want to fucking micromanage the lives of every being he put into existence? This I cannot fathom and it makes me cringe every time I hear someone praying for a desired outcome.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points ago

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Find me an atheist who thinks unfathomably enormous stars exist by "coincidence."

[–]salgat 6 points7 points ago

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While there are plenty of reasons to argue against the existence of god, stating that because something is big that no god exists is just terrible. I'd say human intelligence is much more incredibly important and impressive than a giant nuclear fueled fireball out in space.

[–]whozurdaddy 9 points10 points ago

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Id just love to know why things like this always end up in a religious / non-religious debate anyway. Cant we just go "woooooah" and move on?

[–]presoblu 4 points5 points ago

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I can't see the Earth, I got a dead pixel on my monitor.

[–]RDEB 1 point2 points ago

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And that's why I pick on things smaller then me.

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[–]lookinathesun 1 point2 points ago

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pretty sure that Rigel is the sun photoshopped

[–]reppit 1 point2 points ago

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Thank God it's not in gif or YTMND form.

[–]f_digg 1 point2 points ago

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i am nothing

[–]nailz1000 1 point2 points ago

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This is absolutely mind blowing. I mean, wow. To think we're THAT insignificant. I knew the universe was big, but you can't wrap your head around it until you see something like this.

[–]sn0re 1 point2 points ago

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We're just tiny little specks about the size of Mickey Rooney.

[–]vanostran 1 point2 points ago

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Speak for your own penis.

[–]Adman65 1 point2 points ago

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I love the universe :)

[–]bongfarmer 1 point2 points ago

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I wonder how large the great attractor is

[–]Beelkeel 1 point2 points ago

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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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size not matter, what matter is honor...

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When I feel a bit down, I look at images of galaxies and how small and insignificant our world is compared to the universe. Doing so makes all my problems go away.

[–]moonzilla 2 points3 points ago

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Me too, except sometimes looking at them makes me panic just ever so slightly.

[–]skbharman 1 point2 points ago

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Every time I see these kind of illustrations, I so badly want to start watching Star Trek. But I never know which version to begin with. I don't think I'd like TOS, because I'm a sucker for "new" sci-fi. So please, help me. Which one?

[–]static_silence 1 point2 points ago

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ive seen pictures similar to that before though none quite as detailed, it really puts it in perspective. The pale blue dot by carl sagan does this as well.

[–]chiswede 1 point2 points ago

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This was posted on the internet the same day as the Big Bang.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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Commence existential freak-out... now!

[–]limxdul 1 point2 points ago

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we've got places to go... things to find...