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[–]garyr_h 21 points22 points ago

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This made me wonder who owned the cables and how they were laid. Pretty interesting stuff.

One nugget from the wiki article:

"In March, 2007, pirates stole an 11 km (7 mi) section of the T-V-H submarine cable that connected Thailand, Vietnam, and Hong Kong, affecting Vietnam's Internet users with far slower speeds. The thieves attempted to sell the 100 tons of illicit cargo as scrap."

I definitely did not hear about that. That is some crazy shit.

[–]clefairy 26 points27 points ago

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Pirates need bandwidth to seed their torrents. Arrrr.

[–]takeda64 13 points14 points ago

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This picture shows the tubes that the Internet is made of:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Submarine_cable_cross-section_3D_plain.svg

[–]FurryMoistAvenger 25 points26 points ago*

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Shit. It is a series of tubes

[–]GeoAtreides 12 points13 points ago

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more like a parallel of tubes

[–]oalsaker 11 points12 points ago

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Wow, the innermost insulation layer is vaseline! Our internets are lubricated for extra speed!

[–]c53x12 5 points6 points ago

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They're also ribbed for your pleasure.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Mmmmm, petroleum jelly.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points ago*

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I just went on a several min tangent thanks to you and your link. I ended up at the wiki article on the 1929 Grand Banks Earthquake which generated an underwater landslide that hit the Newfoundland coast among other places. It was the only known tsunami to hit the east coast of Canada. Undersea communication cables allowed the progression of the landslide to be tracked. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Grand_Banks_earthquake

I guess the writer either never heard of, or wasn't counting the tsunami created by the Halifax explosion; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halifax_Explosion

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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No one knows what it's like, to be a submarine internet cable, in international waters, with theiving pirates and big fuck-off anchors.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points ago

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Piracy doesn't hurt people and businesses. It's not like the pirates would have bought the 7 mi cable in the first place.

[–]remccain 18 points19 points ago

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1% of the bandwidth is used for telephone calls, yet you still pay through the nose to dial overseas. Fuck you, AT&T

[–]cheald 7 points8 points ago*

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That was pretty much my thought, too.

At this point, it'd take a whole lot of numbers to convince me that telephony costs aren't just an incredibly massive scam.

[–]MarkByers 2 points3 points ago*

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It would take a whole lot of numbers to convince me why people don't switch to VoIP instead of paying for overpriced old technology.

[–]beedogs 1 point2 points ago

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ignorance, mostly.

[–]garyr_h 0 points1 point ago

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VoIP providers still screw the pooch. Time Warner, for example, still charges for long-distance. You can choose from a local calling package, in-state package, and a national package. Then for another $20 you can get "free" international calling. Which of course is only free for the first 1000 minutes.

So for the national calling package you are still paying $50 before all the fees put on top of it. Which, btw, VoIP is more regulated than the normal phone companies. They even have regulation fees which are fees to pay the government to monitor their own company. Then they have the 911 fee. The local phone number fee. Then normal state and federal fees.

After it is all said and done, you are still paying pretty much the same as with AT&T or any other phone company.

The same can be said about Cox, or at least when I was with them a couple years ago.

[–]leokennis 14 points15 points ago

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I always wondered: where do these cables get to land? Do they literally come out of the sea by the shore, lay half buried under some beach and then run into some sort of 'internet distribution' building? I seriously have no freaking clue.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points ago

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Pretty much. I've seen some pic here on reddit of exactly one of those places - anyone got it?

[–]leokennis 1 point2 points ago

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Awesome...someone posted this but deleted their comment: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Submarine_Telephone_Cables_PICT8182_1.JPG

They are phone cables, but I suspect the internet cables aren't that different in this regard ;)

[–]SovereignZ 11 points12 points ago*

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Under the sea! Under the sea! Darling it's better! Down where it's wetter! Take it from me!

[–]sarahfrancesca 6 points7 points ago

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Up on the web they surf all day.

[–]sfacets 2 points3 points ago

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Sebastian the crab is so gay

[–]mistergosh 8 points9 points ago

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Gay?

"Darling it's better! Down where it's wetter! Take it from me!" Did you read that? Seriously, who writes this things? Sebastian is a perverted womanizer who spends his days with a partially naked woman. A partially naked woman who is "better down where it's wetter" and "takes it from him". I'm surprised no one has sued Disney about that.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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Roger Myers Senior loved almost all the peoples of the world, and he was in turn beloved by the world. Except in 1936 when he received criticism for his controversial movie, 'Nazi Supermen are Our Superiors'.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points ago

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I was actually thinking exactly that while looking at the picture. Weird.

[–]escape_goat 3 points4 points ago

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Well, I''m guessing that will be the last time PCB software is ever used to design a physical network.

[–]andymason 5 points6 points ago

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The map is made by telegeography.com and comes from the Guardian newspaper back in February http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/feb/01/internationalpersonalfinancebusiness.internet

There is also a more detailed and full colour version at http://www.telegeography.com/products/map_cable/index.php which you can purchase yourself for $250

[–]clawoo 10 points11 points ago

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As a European, this map looks very strange to me. We're used to this map, which is taught in all schools.

I wonder if Russia has a map centered on them as well.

[–]redwall_hp 7 points8 points ago

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[–]followthesinner 2 points3 points ago*

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I don't think its the point that America is in the middle. More to show the most uninterrupted Ocean than anything else. I don't know why they show Russia's Eastern half twice. It would be fine to cut it off at mid-India. EDIT: It's simply labeling purposes. EDIT2: Yes Russia has it's own maps. They are similar to this

[–]coob 1 point2 points ago

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Not to mention this map is from the Guardian.

[–]pradador 1 point2 points ago

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Pretty sure it has nothing to do with which map is used where (which btw, we use the same map you do... Europe is centered) and everything to do with the best way to represent transoceanic cables.

[–]allywilson 0 points1 point ago

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I always thought our "euro" map was because of the prime meridian being in the centre?

[–]svideo 3 points4 points ago

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Neil Stephensen wrote an awesome article for Wired years back on how these cables are laid and terminated. It's long but an amazing read. Check it out here

[–]sfacets 2 points3 points ago

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Australia sucks ass.

[–]remccain -3 points-2 points ago

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yeah, and it sucks ass through New Zealand.

[–]davidreiss666 3 points4 points ago

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No, it sucks US through New Zealand.

[–]BritishEnglishPolice 4 points5 points ago

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Same thing.

[–]remccain 0 points1 point ago*

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nah, it just tastes like it once we've finished buggering England.

[–]jimmick 3 points4 points ago

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No fuggen wonder Australia gets high ping times to america, we're relaying through new zealand

[–]unripegreenbanana 2 points3 points ago

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[–]buttson 1 point2 points ago

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would love to see the linked img in png format. jpg is lousey for text.

[–]darkreign 4 points5 points ago

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.PNG MOTHERFUCKER DO YOU SPEAK IT?

[–]anachronic 4 points5 points ago

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[–]justincase1021 1 point2 points ago

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so no internet in Antarctica. I could actually get some work done there

[–]phoenixankit 0 points1 point ago

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No wonder broadband is so expensive in India and we get high pings to all western countries. China has a fucking direct cable to the US.

[–]subzerogts 0 points1 point ago*

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I'm in Pakistan and my internet's still a little screwy. They must've fixed the stupid cable by now, no?

I miss my connection in NY. 8Mbps, started off as almost double that in 1999. Got great pings to Europe and most of the United States.

[–]redditacct 0 points1 point ago

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The repeater has been replaced and the initial splice is completed between the cable from Alexandria and the new repeater.

Schedule for next 48 hours: laying of repeater and cable-final splicing.

The repair operation completion is now estimated anytime within 04/01/2009 (subject to rough weather/sea and cable conditions).

[–]subzerogts 0 points1 point ago

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Wow, thanks.

[–]zobdos 0 points1 point ago

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"SeaMeWe", ROFL!

[–]dontgoatsemebro 0 points1 point ago

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Hey remember when George Bush severed a load of cables effectively cutting Iran off from the internet?

[–]thingnumber2 0 points1 point ago

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Most interesting thing I had no clue about that I've read about all year.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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The year ain't over yet!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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I thought cuba had no undersea cable access and could only use data via an Italian satellite?

[–]sniggity 0 points1 point ago

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My day is complete now.

[–]sixothree 0 points1 point ago*

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Does anyone have the non-compressed version of this image? I hate it when people ruin perfectly good images. Christ, you can't even read the source URL. People like this deserve a swift kick to the nuts.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point ago

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Kudos to the Guardian newspaper for this image.

Great paper.

[–]anescient 0 points1 point ago

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< 2 terabits of internet traffic on ocean cables? That seems a little thin.

[–]teraflop 0 points1 point ago

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Almost all the undersea internet cables in the world. I am currently posting this comment via one that isn't on the diagram.

[–]tedivm 0 points1 point ago

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Interesting fact- this thread shows up higher in Google than the actual picture and blog itself.

[–]rack88 0 points1 point ago

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Woot, the US is a beast, sucking down all the internet bandwidth we can chew on.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points ago

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Yet our internet speed is still lagging behind a shitload of countries.

[–]pradador 0 points1 point ago

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What we lack in speed, we more than make up in availability and coverage.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points ago

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Hahaha, doubt that. Japan has free WiFi (if I remember correctly), while I know some people who live in places in the US that still don't offer anything better than dial-up.

[–]JasonDJ -1 points0 points ago*

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So if I'm reading that diagram at the bottom of the page correctly, there is still 1.4Tb/s available for purchasing?

Anyone wanna go dutch on a REAL fast connection?

I'll even VLAN an open wi-fi AP to share it with any redditor that wants it. Honest.

[–]itsmeee -1 points0 points ago

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ah, wonderful! Now that I have a map of your infidel cables we shall strike at each of them, sending your world into disorder so Allah can reign supremely!

[–]zouhair -2 points-1 points ago

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under the earth's ocean? I thought it was just laid over the earth's ocean. Am I wrong?