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I've been looking for a job for over a year...I think this is what's happening (i.imgur.com)

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[–]ILL_Show_Myself_Out 461 points462 points ago

I get the feeling that companies put Internet sites to to attract employees, but never take them down once the position is filled. Consequently they just kinda sit there collecting resumes nobody ever sees.

[–]Poemi 210 points211 points ago

Also, companies want to give the impression that they're hiring--even though many of them can't afford it--so they let those posted jobs sit around for months.

And/or they'll post "wish list" openings: positions they don't really need filled anytime soon, but just in case the actually perfect-in-every-way candidate applies, they'll consider an interview. Otherwise they barely glance at the resumes that come in.

[–]blackjackjester 74 points75 points ago

Well, most of those stay up because a lot of companies follow the mantra "we're always looking for top talent". Basically, if you're awesome with 25 years experience in exactly what they want, they'll hire you. You have the best chance at finding a job at a company who is just trying to fill in ranks if you have under 10 years experience - aka one that is rapidly hiring.

[–]Corn0ffTheCob 151 points152 points ago

25 years experience and willing to settle for entry level pay with a week and a half of vacation.

[–]tonybanks 21 points22 points ago

You're a COMMUNIST if you're having vacations!

[–]Smoothandburble 49 points50 points ago

You get vacation?

[–]gemini86 72 points73 points ago

What's vacation? Is that like being evicted? I know what that is...

[–]Brule_Tools 19 points20 points ago

after the 9 months I worked for them last year, I earned a whopping 4 DAYS VACATION!

30 days leave is seriously the most underappreciated thing about the mlitary.

[–]Adzmodean 11 points12 points ago

I get 7 weeks leave a year, and a further 2 weeks that I can take or sell. in addition, I can take a pay cut and get 2 more weeks. I can get a further 2 weeks if I'm an active reservist. So I could probably get 13 weeks off straight up. But there's more: every time I do a 7 day stretch of night-shift, I get 6 days off the following week. I usually work a 36 hour week, though there's a bit of (paid) over time.

I'm not a communist, it's called basic worker's rights. It was packed in with the tea that you lot threw into the harbor - silly sods.

[–]icetypoon 0 points1 point ago

Its awesome.

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      [–]HisHighNes 69 points70 points ago

      Week and a half? Whoa, guy.

      [–]Arizhel 23 points24 points ago

      Vacation? What do you need that for? Are you some kind of socialist or somethin'?

      [–]Finnmanjohn 7 points8 points ago

      In old country, living WAS vacation.

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        [–]Zjackrum 30 points31 points ago

        I dunno... 25 years experience? That sort of applicant is probably a little on the "old" side to be hired...

        [–]OwDaditHurts 44 points45 points ago

        TIL 43 is too old to work...

        [–]prussianiron 32 points33 points ago

        Realistically, what kind of job do you really need 25 years of experience in, but that you can start at age 18 with no college education?

        [–]OwDaditHurts 22 points23 points ago

        Commercial airline pilot. First thing you do is get in the air force at 18. After that get a private aviation license and log 250+ hours flight time. Spend the next ten or so years doing boring flight paths with progressively larger aircraft. Eventually you might get a job as a co-pilot at a major airline and eventually you get to be the head pilot. Very competitive field. Very stringent requirements. Lots of experience required.

        Then again, who cares about realistically? I was just addressing someone's statement that if you've been doing something for 25 years you're now considered too old to be hired.

        [–]prussianiron 13 points14 points ago

        I don't mean to argue with you, but that wouldn't work. Enlisted members of the Armed Forces cannot be pilots. What would be the point of joining the Air Force? Except maybe to familiarize yourself with flight terms and such, but that seems hardly worth it.

        Actually a FAR more realistic method for that would be to simply be in college for 4 years, become an officer and a pilot in any of the armed forces, and then from there you will be thought of very highly in any kind of aviation field.

        Funny enough, my plan is going into the Marine Corps and flying after college, and possibly becoming a commercial pilot afterwards.

        [–]Arizhel 12 points13 points ago

        Military experience isn't all that useful in being a commercial pilot. You have to go back to flight school to re-learn all the FAA stuff, because it's all different from what the military does (airspace, etc.). You also have to find a way to get flight hours, because military pilots don't have many when they get out, usually. If you get out with 300 hours or so, that's nothing; no one will give you a job doing anything but instruction with less than 1000 hours PIC.

        As a commercial pilot, you'll probably start out (when you finally get past 1000 hours at some little flight school) flying shotgun for cargo planes, and you probably will be lucky if you get paid anything for the privilege. Some time after that, you might be able to score a seat as co-pilot on a commercial aircraft. For that, you'll get the princely salary of $18K. You can do better waiting tables. By the time you're 40-45, you'll finally be able to move into the captain's seat, and eventually you might start making around $60-80k.

        Being a pilot is not a career. It's a paid hobby, and that's it.

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            [–]Spujika 5 points6 points ago

            Acting is one I could think of.

            [–]prussianiron 8 points9 points ago

            Fair enough. Though acting is a real hit-or-miss profession AFAIK.

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              [–]utopianfiat 11 points12 points ago

              Correction, 43 is too old to accept the shit pay they're looking to dole out.

              [–]Wirenutt 5 points6 points ago

              Me, industrial electrician for 30 years, degrees in electrical engineering and computer engineering, and my company outsources everything to Mexico, closes plant 5 years ago. I have sent out 200 resumes and have been on dozens of interviews. I am always one of the last 2 or 3 guys left out of 80 - 100 candidates, since I have the most knowledge and experience. I have aced written tests companies give after they have told me NO ONE has ever aced their test.

              On one tour of a plant, I was told about a problem they had been having for 6 months that no one has been able to figure out, and after about 10 minutes of troubleshooting, I point out what their little problem is, and their technician did what I told him needed to be done, and their problem went away. I figured I had that job in the bag big time. Nope, they hired a younger guy who I know to be a lazy, ignorant shitbag.

              Every single time I am passed over for the younger candidate. Some of those candidates I lose the job to are guys that I FREAKING TRAINED. I am now 55, and I drive a school bus.

              You are never too old to work, but sometimes you are to old to get hired. There is a difference.

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                [–]zuzahin 5 points6 points ago

                Mid-40s, not too old in my book - think Michael Scott.

                [–]MrPeppa 5 points6 points ago

                Not sure you're helping your point there.

                [–]two 3 points4 points ago

                Well, most of those stay up because a lot of companies follow the mantra "we're always looking for top talent".

                It really depends what kind of job we're talking about (we seem to be all over the place in this thread), but for professionals, it's this. A lot of employers hire for the entire year in only October/November for a summer start. But it's not like Goldman Sachs isn't going to have a recruitment plan for the super-qualified candidate who just graduated from MIT a semester early with a 3.8 GPA.

                Let's just say that the vast majority of you guys just aren't that person. It sucks, yes - but sometimes those online applications just aren't for the 1,000s of candidates who use them.

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                  [–]HyzerFlip 1 point2 points ago

                  also they'll post jobs that aren't open to "motivate" the current employees.

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                    [–]log1k 40 points41 points ago

                    I applied to a position a few months after getting out of school. Didn't hear anything. Almost a year later I'm back in school for something else and I get an email from same company asking if I'd like to schedule an interview.

                    [–]menomenaa 28 points29 points ago

                    That doesn't necessarily mean they just didn't get around to you. It probably means they hired someone for the position but kept some resumes on file that they thought were good. The person in that position either moved on or got fired and they revisited old resumes while also starting a new search. It's not that crazy to start with people who have already shown interest in the open position.

                    [–]dementiapatient567[S] 23 points24 points ago

                    I've applied for literally every position that wasn't something like a law firm or another position that requires a degree like that. It's been well over a hundred apps and still no jobs...Somehow >.<

                    [–]winnythepah 198 points199 points ago

                    You have extremely low odds of landing a job applying to online applications. They would only consider an interview if they find the perfect candidate, and they do not have anyone in their network that can fill the position.

                    I bet you can land an interview with a company within a month if you follow this advice: network. You say you have already graduated and can't find opportunities to network with potential employers? Bullshit.

                    Go to local universities websites or call their career centers and ask them what are the dates for upcoming information sessions for different employers. Almost every university has a list of upcoming employer's information sessions. Then, clean up your resume and have it critiqued by someone, I will do it for you if you like, send me a pm. Dry clean your finest suit and go attend every single information session. Remember, the people that hold the information sessions ARE THE RECRUITERS. They are the ones that will hire you or at least get you an interview with a manager. Now here is the important part...

                    At the end of the information session is when you make the magic happen. Most of the people that attend will immediately crowd the recruiters hosting the session, asking them random questions, trying to show their interest in the company and make the recruiters remember them. You will NOT do this. You will go to the food table, they always offer snacks or refreshments, hang out and wait until all the other people begin filing out. During this time, keep notice at what recruiters have the most people around them. Typically, the ones that are actually in charge of making hiring decisions will have the most (they typically find this out by asking friends who is important). These recruiters, often managers, will not remember any of the faces that he just interacted with. He was just bombarded by a sea of students peppering questions at him, it all becomes a blur. Now here it comes... guess what that recruiter is going to do after being mauled and talking for an hour straight? Go straight for a slice of pizza and a coke.

                    Now this is your opportunity to ACTUALLY make an impression and land an interview. You are almost always going to get a chance to talk 1 on 1 with the recruiter, an opportunity no other student will have. Strike up good conversation, show that you are interested in the company, and that you have skills that align with the job. DO NOT shove your resume down his throat. He just had to answer and hear tons of kids try to impress him by saying something like "so this past semester I got an A+ and I was wondering blablablablabla." Just have a normal conversation and have him remember you. Then, you ask if there is a way to contact him at the end of the conversation, he will almost always give you his business card or email. Write him a professional follow up email, with your resume attached, and tell him you are very interested in joining x company (even if you arn't) and if he could please forward your resume to the appropriate person to assist you in landing a job.. (if he mentioned that his team has an open position, then say you would be very interested to join his team blablabla). Since you have been out of work, you better have a good story when he asks why you graduated last year and havn't found a job. DO NOT say that the job market has been rough and you havn't been able to find one yet.. you drop this terd in his lap and you will not get a job. Instead, say how you attempted to start your own business or become an independent contractor or something productive (YOU CAN MAKE IT UP! It doesn't matter) and now you want the stability of a large corporation.

                    I am graduating from a public university this next semester. I followed this strategy and landed over 20 interviews (most I turned down) and landed multiple job offers, most to ones that I was not qualified for. It was all because I networked and the person hiring could look at my resume and know who I was. Some of the companies I got offers from were Goldman Sachs, Deloitte, IBM, Sikorsky, and Lockheed to name a few

                    TL;DR Read the whole thing, follow the directions, and you will find yourself a job, if not an interview, very soon

                    [–]Darkersun 33 points34 points ago

                    This is an oddly specific bit of advice. Now when 50 people wait at the food table to ambush the popular recruiters, we will all know why.

                    [–]onlygobackward 16 points17 points ago

                    What's worse is the hoards of graduates at events for on-campus recruiting (which they don't qualify for).

                    When I go to LGBT outreach events for my firm (I'm not a recruiter, but I am gay, so I guess that qualifies me to go), I'm often mobbed by students from schools at which we do not recruit (i.e. the centralized HR won't give them an interview no matter what I say). I try to be polite, but I always focus on kids from schools that actually have a chance at an interview. I can only imagine how annoyed I'd be if a non-student came up to me in that situation and tried to get an interview by "networking" me (at least the kids from the non-target schools have reason to believe they could get an interview, since they were invited to the event and all).

                    Disclosure: I understand that my company's circumstances are atypical (we often do get the pick of the litter), but be careful with this /r/bestof quality advice because it could go VERY wrong. Recruiting already reeks of enough desperation.

                    [–]pinkycatcher 8 points9 points ago

                    Wow, fuck HR, seriously.

                    [–]winnythepah 1 point2 points ago

                    In response to not going to your specific on-campus recruiting sessions, from my experience, you are wrong. I go to a public university and I traveled up to the north east and went to MIT and Harvard's recruiting events. I networked with companies that do not even recruit or look at my school and landed interviews. These include Goldman Sachs and Bain Consulting (i didnt get Bain in the end, but hey i got the interview!). The fact that you travel out of your way to attend another schools information sessions, shows your level of interest and commitment, it reflects positive on you if anything, not negative.

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                      [–]swiftheart 3 points4 points ago

                      It reminds me of a an anecdote from a US embassy in China.

                      An employee was doing a visa interview when, in response to some question, the interviewee cracked a lame joke.

                      The interviewer laughed and said that, just for the joke, he would grant the visa.

                      Beginning immediately the next day he started receiving the same joke from dozens of interviewees.

                      [–]Darkersun 2 points3 points ago

                      Yeah. In the gaming world we call these "cheese" strategies because they are exactly that. They work ONE time, and then when the person it worked for tries telling everyone, it becomes a really non-unique idea that doesn't have the same effectiveness.

                      [–]Adamish 2 points3 points ago

                      This is fantastic advice. Also OP, use your university's careers advisors if you went to uni; if not then look for charities that assist the unemployed. It's worth having them look over your CV/basic cover letter structure, and they'll also know of good networking opportunities, job boards, career paths etc.

                      And it bears saying: rather than copy & pasting your CV and cover letter to 100 online jobs, take the time to find positions you're especially qualified for/enthused by and customise your CV and letter to fit their required skills and experience. 10 meticulously laid-out applications will get you much further than 100 sloppy ones that took the same time.

                      [–]sugarhoneybadger 2 points3 points ago

                      This bears repeating. Also rewrite your resume using keywords from the position description. HR loves that shit.

                      [–]nofapthrowaway001 6 points7 points ago

                      Holy crap. Have an upvote.

                      inb4 /r/bestof

                      [–]Ironn 4 points5 points ago

                      r/defaultgems

                      [–]dementiapatient567[S] 5 points6 points ago

                      That was...Beautiful. I'll definitely get on that the next job fairs I can find.

                      [–]wrc-wolf 3 points4 points ago

                      tl;dr - bullshit and brown-nose up to somebody in order to land a position you're not qualified for as opposed to somebody who actually worked to even try to get there. And people wonder what's wrong with corporate culture..

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                        [–]7point7 5 points6 points ago

                        Hang in there man! I just got my first real job after 9 months and no less than 150 apps. Don't give up!

                        [–]br0hemian 10 points11 points ago

                        As a 19 year old in College who has been looking for part-time work since I started in September, 100 apps is nothing. lol.

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                          [–]adrianmonk 25 points26 points ago

                          This definitely happens. A local computer company once had a blurb on their web site saying "We are looking for talented software engineers. Contact us for details." or something like that. So I was looking for a job, so I went to the Contact Us part, called their number, and asked about the job. The guy who answered was like, "What on earth are you talking about? We aren't hiring. What made you think we were?"

                          [–]brokenbentou 3 points4 points ago

                          I wish upvotes were enough to console you. This is exactly what I've experience several times.

                          [–]THEAdrian 14 points15 points ago

                          I once saw an ad for a job on the web, it was posted the previous day I believe. So I called the company to make sure and they were like "Ummm, we're not hiring..."

                          "But there's an ad on Kijiji..."

                          "It must be an old ad."

                          "It was posted yesterday..."

                          "Ummm..."

                          "Alright, thanks for your time."

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                            [–]pyrrhios 16 points17 points ago

                            No, corporate HR considers candidates unqualified for any position if the applicant doesn't have a job. Hence "lack of qualified candidates".

                            [–]BlackPride 5 points6 points ago

                            They're often just hiring internally. They'll put up public advertisements, but they've already gone through a trusted agency to get an employee, then make an internal advertisement for the position the agency employee already occupies, which the agency employee can apply for, and then be officially hired. These public advertisements are often just formalities.

                            [–]purdue17906 2 points3 points ago

                            Not necessarily. Ads on careerbuilder and the like cost money each month. Most people don't get a call back because they aren't qualified for the position. Although this isn't the case 100% of the time, it's the majority.

                            [–]VslachaTurbo Sloth 6 points7 points ago

                            Kind of like those flyers in college for events that stay up long after the event is over because everyone's too lazy to take them down.

                            [–]BrainInAJar 9 points10 points ago

                            I've always wanted to play with this. ie, put up flyers around town for some fictional band, dated prior to the current date ( so put some up today advertising a show for Jan 18 ). Then get a couple people in on the joke to talk to each other in trendy record shops about how great the show was. See how long until people who aren't in on the joke start talking up the band.

                            [–]sebdef 7 points8 points ago

                            Another good college one is throw a party with kegs filled with non-alcoholic beer, and laugh at all the people who act drunk

                            [–]benziz 6 points7 points ago

                            Every professional job I've had, I've gotten through contacts or an internal HR rep contacting me. I usually fill out the application online oj my first day as a formality. I don't really have a point.

                            [–]lilybottom 0 points1 point ago

                            Also some companies may already have someone in mind for an opening but HR has to put an ad up anyway to see if they can find someone better. They might not even interview anybody.

                            [–]MrErnie 1 point2 points ago

                            Most companies post on the internet if a spot is open because they have to. They'll just end up hiring from within or they already have someone picked out. It's just an HR requirement to post an open position.

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                              [–]Jess_than_three 53 points54 points ago

                              If you've been applying to a place for months and they're still looking to hire someone, they're obviously looking to hire someone who isn't you.

                              Sorry.

                              [–]zuuko 6 points7 points ago

                              if there's one thing i can thank my school for teaching me, it's that most people don't even apply for jobs properly. the fact that you're writing an application is usually indication that you are qualified to do/learn the job if they gave you the opportunity, so all employers really have to do is look for people they want to work with. that CAN NOT be conveyed through a piece of paper or random/generic internet application. human relationships are exponentially better than a resume (even if it was an OK or slightly awkward meeting). it's all about calling up hiring managers/employers, having a coffee and "learning" about the company, and shooting the shit. it's almost like cheating - you're forcing an unofficial interview. best case scenario, you get an interview/job because you made the effort to show your face (and that sticks in someones mind compared to a nicely formatted resume). worse case scenario, you build your skills to small talk and have good conversations (invaluable at work).

                              we always get questions on how come someone with a 85% average got in when there is clearly people who are better on paper, and the short answer is - we met him, we liked him, and to be honest, you'll all do the same job anyways.

                              edit: better just clarify the "everyone is on the same level anyways" since i can't actually speak for everyone. i come from business/corporate world, and that's been my experience there. it may not be the exact same in IT, engineering etc.

                              [–]airnoone 4 points5 points ago

                              Are you really saying just call up a random manager from a company and ask them to go out to coffee with you? I'm not trying to be rude, but this is how I imagine it would go.

                              "Hello, Mr Bossman speaking"
"Hi, I'm DesperateGuy and I'm really interested in your company and would like to learn more about it, would you consider meeting up for coffee some time this week?"
"What was your name again?"
"DesperateGuy, sir"
"Do I know you...?"
"No sir"
"Uhh, ummm, well I'm quite busy you see. I'll see if I've got time later and give you a call"
*Click*

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                                  [–]GoldenDriller 24 points25 points ago

                                  "We need to hire two new employees!"

                                  [–]electricfoxx 18 points19 points ago

                                  Hmmm. Do you have any work experience, specifically hiring employees? You must have 5 years experience hiring and a Bachelors. Oh, and you have to be currently working in a job of hiring employees.

                                  [–]Idras_Hairline 7 points8 points ago

                                  "Because clearly, the person quitting their job hiring employees did it to peruse a career of hiring employees..."

                                  [–]KYLE-BROFLOSKI 210 points211 points ago

                                  But you need at least 2 years of experience for the position. Sorry. Janitorial work is serious business and you don't even have a degree.

                                  [–]dementiapatient567[S] 171 points172 points ago

                                  I saw one job that was something like "3 years professional mowing experience" or something like that...I mean...How long does it take to teach someone how to work a lawn mower?

                                  [–]AffectiveMan 136 points137 points ago

                                  I once saw a job posting in 1998 requiring 5 years of Java programming experience.

                                  FUN FACT: Java was created in 1995.

                                  [–]VforVenreddit 72 points73 points ago

                                  Preferred qualification - Time Travel

                                  [–]anonysera 62 points63 points ago

                                  Must be an expert in:

                                  • Lying

                                  [–]Bipolarruledout 12 points13 points ago

                                  Management position!

                                  [–]Tripleshadow 27 points28 points ago

                                  So you're saying you didn't put 2 years of your life into developing Java and then another 3 using it? Entitled kids these days, think they can just land a job that easy...

                                  [–]2gig 12 points13 points ago

                                  They do the same thing these days with HTML5 listings.

                                  [–]Vycid 2 points3 points ago

                                  Maybe James Gosling could have applied.

                                  "Well, I first started creating proto-Java in 1991... We called it Oak back then."

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                                    [–]drakeblood4 112 points113 points ago

                                    As someone with greater than three years professional mowing experience, let me just say that anyone with enough experience to be qualified for that also realizes that that job is fucking awful and literally anything else would probably be better.

                                    [–]FireSpokes 13 points14 points ago

                                    Clearly you've never roofed houses.

                                    [–]Cole7rain 12 points13 points ago

                                    Honestly, I really gotta hand it to people who work in construction and other tradesmen. That is some fucking hard work, if I had to do that I wouldn't have the energy at the end of the day to do anything else.

                                    Hell I'd probably spend my days off sleeping.

                                    [–]FireSpokes 8 points9 points ago

                                    Most work days I DO just go to bed after I get home, and I also do spend my days off sleeping.

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                                      [–]dementiapatient567[S] 21 points22 points ago

                                      Ahh touche` makes perfect sense now.

                                      However, I can't afford to care how miserable I am with the job I'm doing. lol

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                                        [–]farawaycircus 26 points27 points ago

                                        A dealership in my town was looking for +2 years experience washing cars. The job market in America is a fucking warzone.

                                        [–]sirhotalot 4 points5 points ago

                                        Only 58% of the working age work force is employed and it's been this way for over 3 years, no kidding it's a war zone.

                                        [–]SNAAAAAAAAAKE 10 points11 points ago

                                        I was job searching again last night, came across one for horse grooming/stable cleaning. Required previous experience and 2 references from that field.

                                        Yeah, here are my arms. 2 references that I can pick up shit.

                                        [–]darbynrib 7 points8 points ago

                                        Haha. Horse grooming is harder than you might think. You do WAY more than just pick up poop.

                                        Also, a horse can REALLY fuck you up if you don't know what you're doing.

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                                            [–]douglasmacarthur 0 points1 point ago

                                            But you need at least 2 years of experience for the position. Sorry. Janitorial work is serious business and you don't even have a degree.

                                            Maybe the government shouldn't have subsidized expensive but, for many useless, Liberal Arts educations that put students literally (yes, literally) a trillion dollars in debt?

                                            [–]Rfvthn 3 points4 points ago

                                            What. Your blaming the debt of the government on subsidizing education?? You need to research more.

                                            Look at other nations that completely pay for secondary education as a quick example.

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                                              [–]Ice_tail 43 points44 points ago

                                              Just do IT jobs, they are plenty of them and all you have to do is be condescending and crtl+alt+delete all day.

                                              [–]unclepickle1 18 points19 points ago

                                              2% unemployment in the industry.

                                              [–]benziz 19 points20 points ago

                                              Source? Not being a dick, just curious.

                                              [–]donaldrobertsoniii 8 points9 points ago

                                              Doesn't look like he's too far off. This article from October shows that the unemployment rate is pretty low.

                                              [–]lask001 2 points3 points ago

                                              After 3 months of not even looking for a job, I found one in 2 days. I put my resume in on Monday, got called on Tuesday, had an interview on Friday, and was hired the following Monday.

                                              Been there for about 5 months now. It pays well, and the benefits are absurd.

                                              [–]Chronoloraptor 8 points9 points ago

                                              I am the 98%.

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                                                [–]Ghooble 9 points10 points ago

                                                I was applying to be a machinist at my current job, they saw that I had "IT Experience" (I did low level shit for a friend's business) and they hired me based off that. This was after 3 months of applying to everything I could find. Now I make $15/h (just demanded a raise after 2 months of working there) and work whenever I want to essentially.

                                                Story is a bit longer than that but the TLDR is learn how to use a fucking computer and opportunities make themselves known after a while

                                                [–]Zjackrum 20 points21 points ago

                                                FALSE.

                                                Demonstrating to your employer that you have IT knowledge simply means they ask you to fix stuff in the office for free.

                                                [–]liekdisifucried 14 points15 points ago

                                                But that implies that they are paying you for something else already

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                                                    [–]shinigami89 5 points6 points ago

                                                    Did you try turning it off and on again?

                                                    [–]gex80 1 point2 points ago

                                                    Thanks for demeaning my job as a sysadmin -____-.

                                                    [–]dementiapatient567[S] 7 points8 points ago

                                                    Lol pretty much. An older friend(He was a cool teacher aide that I've kept in touch with...He's 60 something) said he was going to pay me to "fix his computer." Turns out all I had to do was unplug the router and plug it back in. I didn't accept payment, but there are several instances where people make out with hundreds for something like that. Lucky bastards...I wish I could accept money for something so stupidly easy >.< My conscious would hate me though.

                                                    [–]jrhoffa 10 points11 points ago

                                                    Most technical issues are stupid easy. Most users are stupider than that.

                                                    When your rent is due, you will reconsider letting someone pay you to do something you find easy. Remember that it's not so easy that they can do it themselves.

                                                    [–]dementiapatient567[S] 9 points10 points ago

                                                    Unfortunately I'm caught in the ultimate paradox: Need a job to get a car, need a car to get a job; need a car/job to get an apartment; Need an apartment in a different town to get a job(There are literally none in my town.)

                                                    It's a lovely little circle that has brought my self esteem to < 0

                                                    [–]Herpinderpitee 20 points21 points ago

                                                    That ain't no paradox. Now what you've got right there is a conundrum.

                                                    [–]this_barb 2 points3 points ago

                                                    If you're technically inclined, I would say IT is pretty fulfilling field. If you're not dealing with user-centered stuff, you'll be dealing with some pretty interesting stuff like network & domain implementation (and the security principles behind them), virtualization, clustering, and HP printer issues.

                                                    [–]fallore 2 points3 points ago

                                                    is there a good way to break into the field without a degree in it?

                                                    [–]RhysA 2 points3 points ago

                                                    IT Systems doesn't need a degree (Most but not all developers will), employers will look for experience first (as in everything) but if you're just trying to get your foot in the door in an entry level support role you can often get by with just certifications (Like MCP, A+, Network+ Linux+)

                                                    My A+ got me my first job at 19 and now at 25 I'm a Sysadmin making around double the money I was. My A+ is essentially worthless but I have an MCSA and a bunch of work experience and had no trouble finding work the last time I looked.

                                                    It is an industry where you can't sit still and stop learning if you want to progress though.

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                                                                [–]farawaycircus 20 points21 points ago

                                                                As someone with their BA in accounting, 3+ years experience in accounting with a health care company, and who went through 6 Chipotle interviews only to not get the job.. I feel you.

                                                                [–]AlexLeSage 6 points7 points ago

                                                                Overqualified?

                                                                [–]farawaycircus 12 points13 points ago

                                                                I did 3 group interviews where the other interviewees were 17-20, awkward, and one of them had trouble reading.

                                                                I've been asked so many fucking times "you have the credentials to be an accountant, why don't you go that route." Which, when you've had to sell your car and move back in your parents is frustrating. :(

                                                                I've never wanted a job - any job - so bad in my life.

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                                                                  [–]Poemi 81 points82 points ago

                                                                  Yeah, I've got some bad news. That young guy advocating hiring the kid? He was fired 3 years ago during cutbacks because he was the most expendable. No one is left to advocate hiring the kid.

                                                                  And why should they when they can get people with ten years' experience to work for the same wages?

                                                                  [–]dementiapatient567[S] 37 points38 points ago

                                                                  True enough. Still...Sucks to be a dirt-broke 18 year old nowadays. No one's willing to spend 5 minutes training you to do...Pretty much anything lol

                                                                  [–]sinfield 49 points50 points ago

                                                                  It also sucks to be a broke 40 year old, with degrees and loads of experience, who can't even get a courtesy call back, much less an interview in my field of expertise.

                                                                  [–]farra 3 points4 points ago

                                                                  Which field? I'm curious.

                                                                  [–]YaDamnSkippy 14 points15 points ago

                                                                  Unemployment

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                                                                      [–]Poemi 36 points37 points ago

                                                                      I don't have much advice to offer than this simple 3-step program:

                                                                      1) train yourself to do something

                                                                      2) do it for free (if need be) to prove you can do it

                                                                      3) go to employers with the evidence

                                                                      [–]Mistara 13 points14 points ago

                                                                      This is crap though. Not everyone can get parents or family to pay for living while they work for free.

                                                                      [–]dementiapatient567[S] 10 points11 points ago

                                                                      I'm doing just that with Game Design and programming. It's not the most reliable field, but I'm enjoying it a lot and if I get good at it, I can find a job punching in code for pretty much whatever.

                                                                      If best goes to best, I get good at it and make a decent indie game that sells well. If worst goes to worst...Well, I'll still be unemployed and job searching like now lol.

                                                                      [–]Poemi 15 points16 points ago

                                                                      I've got several friends in the game industry, and every single one of them got there by doing that 3-step plan. It's no guarantee, of course, but it almost seems like a requirement in the industry. Months and months of effort on something that may have no reward shows that you're committed and capable, which goes a long way in any employer's eyes. Best of luck.

                                                                      [–]dementiapatient567[S] 8 points9 points ago

                                                                      I'm actually working on my first "test" game, just to see if I understand the code I've been learning. Turns out I have been and the game, as crappy as it is, works exactly like I want it to. It's really rewarding to see.

                                                                      [–]PokemonMasterMax 4 points5 points ago

                                                                      I've made some games. Not going into game design for my job, but programming non the less.

                                                                      You've got the right idea. Just keep working at it. My first game was awful in my own opinion, but each one that I made got better after that. Also, from what I have noticed about the game companies that I applied at is that they want to see what games you have done. A great way to do that is to have a personal website where a recruiter can download your game and play it.

                                                                      Also, if you like programming, don't limit yourself to just games. There are a whole ton of other programming related jobs out there that you'd probably be interested in. My advice would be to go and find a hackathon to participate in. These are like 24-48 hour competitions where you get in a team and make something of your choosing. Many of my friends do these and I've heard several stories of people getting job offers and/or internship offers on the spot. It's also a great way to learn new technologies as well.

                                                                      [–]dementiapatient567[S] 2 points3 points ago

                                                                      I want to try to get into it enough to enter the next Ludlum Dare. I'm making a shitty 1942 clone right now and I'm actually making more progress than I thought I would.

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                                                                        [–]farra 1 point2 points ago

                                                                        TIP: Another option is to contribute to high profile open source projects. Find one you like, learn how it works (reading other people's code is paramount) and then contribute some useful documentation or a tutorial. Most projects need that sort of help. Once you find a receptive project, continue contributing with the goal of becoming a core contributor.

                                                                        If you submit a resume for a programmer position and you can show me open source code you've contributed and others have used, I'll consider the resume despite lack of other traditional credentials.

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                                                                            [–]brossef 2 points3 points ago

                                                                            If you cant find anything lower your standards or make yourself more desirable. Trade schools/certificates etc. Anything to make you different from every other Joe applying.

                                                                            If worst comes to worst go minimum wage Mcdonalds is bad, I'v been there but money is money.

                                                                            [–]hofstaders_law 11 points12 points ago

                                                                            Have an upvote. There is a critical shortage of welders and electricians that nobody ever talks about.

                                                                            [–]brossef 3 points4 points ago

                                                                            Underwater welders can make like 45$ an hour.

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                                                                              [–]dementiapatient567[S] 1 point2 points ago

                                                                              I have nearly no standards. I mean...I'm not going to sell meth or jerk dudes off for cash, but other than that, I'm up for pretty much anything I can get. For some reason that includes McDonald's and everything other position in my town...My record's clean and everything so idk why really lol

                                                                              [–]Darkersun 7 points8 points ago

                                                                              I mean...I'm not going to sell meth or jerk dudes off for cash

                                                                              Then you aren't working hard enough to live in the United States. Get the fuck out.

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                                                                                  [–]That-one-guy12 0 points1 point ago

                                                                                  Military? It's always a options. And depending on what branch, and job code can be really rewarding. Not everyone gets shipped overseas with a gun.

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                                                                                      [–]BrodyApproves 57 points58 points ago

                                                                                      I have 5 years experience in retail & couldn't get a job at American Eagle or Hollister. I just like folding & organizing clothes but no will let me. Feels bad man.

                                                                                      [–]mynameispaulsimon 40 points41 points ago

                                                                                      If you live in dc I'll interview you. My store is reddit-friendly.

                                                                                      [–]BrodyApproves 13 points14 points ago

                                                                                      Damn, I'm in Calgary, AB. Thanks for the offer though bro.

                                                                                      [–]mcgibber 4 points5 points ago

                                                                                      I too am in the exclusive club of being an unemployed Calgarian. People look at you funny if you can't find work in this city and it's rather annoying.

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                                                                                        [–]dementiapatient567[S] 6 points7 points ago

                                                                                        Looks like I'm on the bus to DC :P Not really. I'd be homeless for quite a while. That wasn't a very nice experience. I was homeless for a little while. I had some really awesome friends(including the ones I'm living with now) that took me in most nights and fed me very frequently. I only had to sleep outside a handful of nights and never had to eat out of the trash thankfully.

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                                                                                          [–]spartan4333 61 points62 points ago

                                                                                          I want this meme to have its own subreddit.

                                                                                          [–]thedarklordkyp 24 points25 points ago

                                                                                          Can we just have a subreddit for all memes and be done with it?

                                                                                          [–]GroupDrink 76 points77 points ago

                                                                                          reddit.com

                                                                                          [–]WarAndRuin 29 points30 points ago

                                                                                          I imagine this row of comments as in the comic. You were the guy they threw out the window

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                                                                                              [–]bobby3eb 4 points5 points ago

                                                                                              Where did this come from? What would the name of the subreddit be?

                                                                                              [–]ChetUbetcha 20 points21 points ago

                                                                                              This comic from Hejibits.

                                                                                              Yes, his speech bubble was cropped out, then re-added.

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                                                                                                  [–]Pit_of_Death 11 points12 points ago

                                                                                                  This is why networking and going around the hiring process is so goddamned important these days. Find someone who can open the door for you in person.

                                                                                                  [–]Gnometard 11 points12 points ago

                                                                                                  I feel the same way... Only I got a wake up call this morning for an interview to be a GM of a great restaurant!

                                                                                                  [–]Jell_Jiggler 8 points9 points ago

                                                                                                  I feel you man. So many places to apply, and even to volunteer in certain places wouldn't accept me. >.>

                                                                                                  All we can do is just keep at it. :P

                                                                                                  [–]wild-lion 9 points10 points ago

                                                                                                  Original artist is Hejibits

                                                                                                  [–]Automatheque 9 points10 points ago

                                                                                                  Entry level position!

                                                                                                  Requires 3 years of experience*

                                                                                                  [–]bobnojio 10 points11 points ago

                                                                                                  I see this a lot.

                                                                                                  in canada, new engineering grads have to do 4 years of work as an "engineer in training" before they can do stuff on their own as a Professional Engineer. 4 years. remember that, because its important.

                                                                                                  I have seen job openings for "entry level" "engineer in training" positions that require 5 years of experience. thats right, the entry level wage for an EIT with some companies requires so much experience that you can not actually still BE an EIT, and should be making 4-5x as much money by that point.

                                                                                                  What. The. Fuck.

                                                                                                  [–]girlmeetsgeek 10 points11 points ago

                                                                                                  Actual H.R./Recruiter here: Your resume probably needs work. Happy to look it over. (Yes, free.) No one should spend a year looking for a job. Google my screen name. (I don't think reddit allows me to post my email.)

                                                                                                  [–]ChunkyD233 18 points19 points ago

                                                                                                  I'm convinced that HR and hiring managers have the easiest jobs on earth: ignore applicants all day and type up job postings to look busy when necessary.

                                                                                                  I don't care how many applicants you have, it doesn't take 4 months to hire someone much less to send them a goddamn email.

                                                                                                  [–]Gamer_ely 16 points17 points ago

                                                                                                  All the entry level jobs I've looked into require non-entry level levels of experience.

                                                                                                  [–]melissarose8585 8 points9 points ago

                                                                                                  Sorry - too many people, not enough jobs.

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                                                                                                    [–]Devon788 8 points9 points ago

                                                                                                    I felt like that when I was looking for a job. I graduated college and it took almost a year to find one. Had a few interviews that nothing came from but finally got a lucky break and found something. Had to move twice while I was looking. Funny how after I got the job, I was flooded with all sorts of offers from all over the place. It'll come around. No worries.

                                                                                                    [–]nightninja88 9 points10 points ago

                                                                                                    It's like when you have a girlfriend, all the other girls suddenly want to date you

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                                                                                                      [–]skintigh 6 points7 points ago

                                                                                                      I applied to Google last year and I think you are right.

                                                                                                      4 rounds of phone interviews, a bunch of in-person interviews including one with the manager who complained he needed to fill this spot six months ago, a bunch of tests with engineers, another phone interview, then further rounds of meetings and packages and a 70% chance they were going to give me an offer but might need me to do more interviews... and I took a job elsewhere. 5 months of interviewing was enough and I couldn't keep telling the other company to give me more time, and all the while the other company apologized profusely that their process took a few weeks.

                                                                                                      [–]brossef 19 points20 points ago

                                                                                                      This is a beginner position, but 2+ years of experience is desired.

                                                                                                      I just know I wont get the job when I read this.

                                                                                                      [–]ricebowlol 8 points9 points ago

                                                                                                      My jimmies get rustled when I read listings like those.

                                                                                                      [–]SimpleTwistofFate 5 points6 points ago

                                                                                                      I cannot believe the experience that some of these people want. 4 years prior experience to be a receptionist, are they taking the piss? I spent four years in college busting my ass, I'm willing to start out making almost nothing, I graduated 8th in my class, and I know my alphabet in three languages, but you won't hire me to make you coffee and file papers? BULLSHIT.

                                                                                                      [–]Boobface69 7 points8 points ago

                                                                                                      Last summer I did something that I thought was impossible, I found a job on Craigslist, and a good one at that. I answered an ad, and 30 minutes later I was skyping with a recruiter in Mexico. Just a little later I was skyping with my new boss in California. This job allowed me to work on the social media accounts of major companies, an awesome experience. Just when i thought Craigslist was only for dirty hook-ups and weirdos...

                                                                                                      [–]Oni-Warlord 18 points19 points ago

                                                                                                      A long time ago, I applied to be an Internet provider technician. The kind of person that comes out to your house when there's an Internet problem. I applied but I never heard back. A few months later, an aunt of mine had problems with her internet from the same company. The guy that came put was obviously a new hire. He was with the company for about a month. This kid barely knew the basics and didn't know half the things I was telling him. I ended up telling him what to do, how to check the problem, and how to fix it. Needless to say, I was appalled that he got the job and I didn't even get a callback. Many employers have no idea what they are doing...

                                                                                                      [–]dicks1jo 5 points6 points ago

                                                                                                      Sad as it may sound, to get a job you need to be interacting with people, not proving your skill. (Well, proving your skill is good too, but that social network is the only way anyone is ever going to pay attention to said skill.)

                                                                                                      It may not be universal, but I have only ever had one job in my entire lifetime that I didn't get because I knew someone on the inside. That includes even the most menial of work I've done over the years.

                                                                                                      [–]Akiharu_Yuki 5 points6 points ago

                                                                                                      It's hard for me to understand this. I've never gotten a job due to knowing someone. It's always been due to proven experience and a degree. Part of it probably has to do with how times have changed and employers now have to be stingy when they are hiring.

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                                                                                                        [–]SuperSecretAgentMan 6 points7 points ago

                                                                                                        Having applied to literally every posted job in my field in the southeast over the past month and a half, I feel your pain.

                                                                                                        It's even worse when you know most of the people getting these jobs don't have half the experience or skill you do.

                                                                                                        [–]leibnitz 31 points32 points ago

                                                                                                        As a hiring manager I always throw half of the resumes in the bin because I don't want to hire unlucky people.

                                                                                                        [–]Falroy 23 points24 points ago

                                                                                                        people like you are the reason I can't buy stuff

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                                                                                                          [–]gary88 8 points9 points ago

                                                                                                          Just because you apply multiple times doesn't mean a company will/should value you more over other candidates.

                                                                                                          [–]KeepJerseyDirty 3 points4 points ago

                                                                                                          I think a big portion of the problem, particularly at smaller companies, is that we get about 500-600 resumes per job posting. There simply isn't enough time to send rejections to everyone.

                                                                                                          The same applies for interviews. We recently hired someone, and for the position we received about a thousand (not exaggerating) resumes. Of the thousand, we interviewed about 20. My team and I are already overwhelmed with the amount of hours we are working, and quite frankly I don't have the time to do a phone call with each candidate, so we send a generic rejection email to everyone we meet.

                                                                                                          People really aren't trying to be assholes, but you have to consider the sheer quantity of candidates and the amount of time each takes.

                                                                                                          [–]darlantan 18 points19 points ago

                                                                                                          Sure there is. Keep a form letter for those who don't make it past the initial resume screening. BCC it to all of them. It doesn't need to be detailed, it just needs to say that you appreciate them applying, but they didn't meet the needs for the position. Adding another address to the list of rejection notices takes about as long as trashing a resume -- it isn't hard, and it shows people that you value their work enough to take a modicum of time to respond to them. That's generally regarded as a good feature in a manager/HR department. (Don't even get me started on HR though. It's their job to do this stuff, there's literally NO excuse for them not replying)

                                                                                                          Ones you bring in for an interview, you're taking time for anyway. You can have a boilerplate response ready for those that don't make the cut if you do a lot of interviews, but personalizing it is still only a matter of seconds.

                                                                                                          If you interview a person multiple times, they're worth sending an email with a bit more info, and asking if they'd like to be considered for future positions. These are people that you may seriously want to put in a file and check on for open positions in the future anyway. I'd also probably give them a call. I mean, they made time to come to multiple interviews, you can make 5 minutes to pick up a phone.

                                                                                                          I've always been pretty satisfied with the results of handling things that way.

                                                                                                          [–]KeepJerseyDirty 0 points1 point ago

                                                                                                          The problem is that we don't have an HR department. We have one woman who handles HR on top of other responsibilities. We are all working 75+ hour weeks, so asking my employees to stay an extra 5-6 hours to keep a list of email addresses for rejection letters is a lot to ask of someone. Its not that we don't appreciate people applying, its just that the sheer quantity is overwhelming. If people call, we politely apologize for not getting back to them, and let them know that we filled the position.

                                                                                                          My point is that I know it sucks, and in an ideal world we would take the time to reply individually to everyone, but it simply isn't possible. We know it is frustrating to candidates, but we aren't assholes, we are just overwhelmed.

                                                                                                          [–]japooki 4 points5 points ago

                                                                                                          Go get a shit job while you are looking. I am sure you are not putting in 40 hours per week looking for a job. A little income is better than nothing. Plus, you learn a lot from shit jobs. Take it from a fast food worker

                                                                                                          [–]Siegecow 3 points4 points ago

                                                                                                          Hah! hire "the kid". Now THAT'S funny! More like sort through the hundreds of kids that have been applying for months since they posted the job listing.

                                                                                                          [–]shahmoney 4 points5 points ago

                                                                                                          I got laid off last month (and it seems a lot of people did), and I have been applying for 2 months non-stop. I will apply to 5-6 jobs a day, and the only people tend to reply back are recruiting agencies. And I get the constant bullshit of how my resume is excellent for someone who graduated only a year and a half ago. Yet, no actual companies seem to contact me for interviews, and I keep feeling like I am going no where with this.

                                                                                                          [–]Tysk12 2 points3 points ago

                                                                                                          What would be better is an extra frame at the end, a newspaper ad "1 Two jobs available

                                                                                                          [–]seekingnorm 17 points18 points ago

                                                                                                          i know it's an unpopular opinion around here (understandably so) but sometimes when people have trouble finding a job, it's also because he/she hasn't done a good job differentiating themselves to the person who's hiring. most people apply with more or less the same message:

                                                                                                          • i have a degree from a middle-of-the-road school with decent grades
                                                                                                          • during said degree, i was a part of student orgs X Y and Z and planned N events
                                                                                                          • my last job was at this mildly relevant company, doing something in the realm of what you're hiring for, and in that job i was recognized as a decent employee
                                                                                                          • i'm a quick learner, great team player, and will bust my ass for your company

                                                                                                          when you get 800 resumes all saying the exact same goddamn thing, how do you choose? most hiring managers end up looking for that extra wow factor - this is why people with colorful backgrounds ("i was a circus performer!" or "i played semipro soccer until i broke an ankle and retired") will often get a leg-up in being selected for interviews. when everyone has the exact same qualifications, wouldn't you rather interview the more interesting-sounding person?

                                                                                                          i help my friends out sometimes with their job applications and the biggest rule i'll lay out for them is to take the conventional cover letter and chuck it out the window. your cover letter needs to tell a compelling narrative about how you got to where you are today, and how working in the role you're applying for will be serendipitous to both you and the company. oh and by the way i financed my college education as a professional poker player. boom come in for an interview!

                                                                                                          [–]Aerialjim 6 points7 points ago

                                                                                                          As a circus performer, I can tell you the circus performer line didn't go over so well with my last interview.

                                                                                                          [–]exactlycake 40 points41 points ago

                                                                                                          How fucking ridiculously stupid. They want to tell me that after busting my ass for these grades, after busting my ass to have time for these fucking orgs, after shelling out money to be apart of association, and after having relevant experience, that I'm too fucking BORING to hire?

                                                                                                          I'm not jumping out of a fucking plane just to get an interview. JUMPING OUT OF A FUCKING PLANE COSTS MONEY.

                                                                                                          [–]KeepJerseyDirty 7 points8 points ago

                                                                                                          As a hiring manager, he is spot on accurate. When I get 500 resumes for a job, about 120 or so will be completely qualified, as listed above. Of the 120 who are qualified, about 20-30 will be exceptionally qualified, where the difference between one candidate and another is quite small.

                                                                                                          If I have a stack of 20 resumes, all with about the same qualifications, I'm going to interview the person who looks like they would be fun to work with on a daily basis. No one wants to spend the majority of their day working with someone who is, in your words, boring.

                                                                                                          [–]Bipolarruledout 5 points6 points ago

                                                                                                          So now it's no longer a shortage of "qualified" employees but "interesting" ones? Just GTFO.

                                                                                                          [–]zoycobot 4 points5 points ago

                                                                                                          Why are you angry? People want to hang out with interesting people, work environments are no exception.

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                                                                                                              [–]seekingnorm 2 points3 points ago

                                                                                                              my point is that you're competing with hundreds of other applicants, all of whom also busted their asses for grades, busted their asses to have time for orgs, shelled money to be part of associations, and have relevant experience - just like you. your application has to convince the person who sifts through the hundreds of applications that you have something the other candidates don't. i'm not saying jump out a plane, i'm saying do something cool. most people achieve this by turning their hobby into something that they can talk about in an interview.

                                                                                                              example: my buddy is really into high fashion, so he writes a blog on fashion that has actually been referenced in some big magazines and he does side projects as a freelance copywriter. when he applies to a marketing job, he has that extra credibility because he's been selling himself via the blog and while everyone is SAYING they have exceptional communication skills, this guy has actually been PAID by large companies to communicate to their customers about what they're selling. it's the difference between saying and doing.

                                                                                                              besides, don't shoot the messenger. i'm just trying to help shed some light on the recruitment process at most companies.

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                                                                                                                  [–]Darktidemage 7 points8 points ago

                                                                                                                  Why the fuck would you hire someone who has been applying for months?

                                                                                                                  [–]HorseMeatSandwich 8 points9 points ago

                                                                                                                  Look, if it comes down to it you might just have to suck it up and "stoop below your level." I landed a pretty lucrative, high-paying job in advertising out of college, got laid off after about a year, and was subsequently unemployed, job hunting, and miserable for about six months. I took a step back when I was about to run out of money and no longer be able to pay rent, and I took a shitty office admin job to pay the bills. It turned out to be the best thing to happen to me in a long time because I'm extremely happy with the company, became close friends with many of my coworkers, fell in love with one and am taking her out on a first date next weekend, and just got a promotion. Just suck it up right now and good things will happen down the road. Good luck, man.

                                                                                                                  [–]glassarrows 15 points16 points ago

                                                                                                                  fell in love

                                                                                                                  first date

                                                                                                                  ...clingy much?

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                                                                                                                    [–]ifarted101 3 points4 points ago

                                                                                                                    Can someone please direct me to the template for this comic?

                                                                                                                    [–]Mithrandir8 8 points9 points ago

                                                                                                                    Here's a link to the comic itself: http://www.hejibits.com/comics/outlook-oust/

                                                                                                                    [–]dementiapatient567[S] 2 points3 points ago

                                                                                                                    I grabbed one that was already done and just erased the stuff in the bubbles and added another one...I'm REALLY bad with anything graphical, but it looks pretty alright. I'd just suggest doing the same.

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                                                                                                                      [–]danielberube 4 points5 points ago

                                                                                                                      OP is 18 and has been "appyling to jobs for over a year"...... Good luck lol!

                                                                                                                      [–]prussianiron 5 points6 points ago

                                                                                                                      As an almost-18 year old with a year of experience at a movie theater that has been applying to a different theater for 6 months now, I know this feel.

                                                                                                                      The worst was when on my third time turning in the application, I came back to see a movie like 2 weeks later and I saw them training some girl. I don't even need training! Show me where everything is and I know exactly how to work it and what to do. And I'm asking for minimum wage. Seriously?

                                                                                                                      [–]afcagroo 2 points3 points ago

                                                                                                                      I'm thinking maybe you don't want to work there.

                                                                                                                      [–]rooqirulz 2 points3 points ago

                                                                                                                      I feel ya bro.

                                                                                                                      [–]Nuffes 1 point2 points ago

                                                                                                                      I think that, like a lot of people might be thinking, this is happening to a lot of people who have been unemployed for a year or more. I personally have been looking for a job for more than a year and some companies were actually honest and told me that they don't have money to pay the current workers so they will have to fire some of them so they can pay others.

                                                                                                                      The problem I see and experienced with some of them is, related to companies that keep your expectations high and tell you "your curriculum is very interesting we will call you once we have a spot to put you in", they basically keep you waiting for a damn answer till you lose hopes and they end up not giving you the so wanted call.

                                                                                                                      Why the hell keep people's expectations high if said companies are not gonna hire them? just say no right away so they don't waste time.

                                                                                                                      [–]TentacleTouchy 0 points1 point ago

                                                                                                                      I’ve been out of work for two or so years now, but please remember that there are many like you out there who hunger for a position; no matter the field of profession. Yours, mine… Everyone’s chance will come along, just pray that your confidence hasn’t been kicked to death by the time it does.

                                                                                                                      [–]period_bear 0 points1 point ago

                                                                                                                      Chin up buddy, your not alone

                                                                                                                      [–]shralposaurus_rex 0 points1 point ago

                                                                                                                      You could always go to a 4 yr, get a major in computer science, and if you are any good at it (which I am sure you are based on previous posts) you can get a job doing programming for a tech company. Many companies want people with 4 yr degrees. Unfortunately a high school degree just doesn't cut it anymore. I understand if you dont have the money, but if you were at all able to get student loans to go to school it is definitely worth it.

                                                                                                                      Many people seem to be deterred away from college bc they are afraid of accruing lots of debt. But you have to realize going to college is investing in your future. If you choose the right major/field, your investment will pay off in the future. I hate to say this, but as interesting as anthropology, sociology, and psychology are, there are very few applications of these majors in the job market unless you go into graduate programs that involve these fields of discipline.

                                                                                                                      So basically I am saying unless you have either lots of experience or an undergraduate/graduate degree, it is going to be quite a tumultuous road. Best of luck.

                                                                                                                      [–]southern_boy 10 points11 points ago

                                                                                                                      I'm going to relay heartbreaking but enlightening information...

                                                                                                                      No employer worth their salt gives half a hump about your "persistence". If they didn't hire you in the first round they're not going to hire you on the second 'cuz you've got 'standing.' They don't owe you that. And...

                                                                                                                      They. Don't. Care.

                                                                                                                      What they care about is one single efficacy question regarding your competence and your presentation...

                                                                                                                      id est - can you do the job and more while self directing your own furtherance to the benefit of the company?

                                                                                                                      And how is that question answered? References.

                                                                                                                      Who do you know? Nobody? Barring lottery level luck - You're fucked.

                                                                                                                      Quirky Starbucks barista fucked. Brilliant yet underemployed, talented yet underutilized, educated but underskilled... you're stuck. You're stuck talking big and achieving little.

                                                                                                                      So how do you avoid that hell on earth?

                                                                                                                      Earn your references.

                                                                                                                      The last essential employment aspect...

                                                                                                                      Find a reputable company. Get a shit job. Be underpaid. Do good work. Go above and beyond. Research everything. Be polite. Keep your nose clean. Arrive early. Leave late. Work harder than your boss. LIVE your job.

                                                                                                                      It'll SUCK. It'll suck hard. Hard isn't even the word for it... it's goddamn soul wrenching. You'll know you deserve better. You'll know you're worth more. You'll know what you're making isn't enough to live on.

                                                                                                                      It'll test the very mettle of which you're made. You'll catch a glimpse of yourself in a grimy reflection on some bus, train, carpool or rail during some interminable mass commute and just fucking STARE and wonder who that person looking at you is... that asshole heading home while working minimum wage at an underappreciated position, heading home to do the dishes by hand because they can't afford a dishwasher, heading home to barely get a few minutes to themselves, heading home to argue with a partner who wants to go on an unaffordable vacation, heading home to disorder, heading home to a netless tightrope of a life.

                                                                                                                      You'll live in 300 sq ft apartments, you'll barely make bills and you'll find out who your real friends are... you'll forge your character.

                                                                                                                      From the most cursory scan of your comments I presume you are an American. That being the case... I love you. For you are my fellow countryman. And while I care for every human I love my homeland. And I love my compatriots doubly so.

                                                                                                                      I hope you're actually asking. I hope you're who you say you are. I hope you aren't just position begging. I hope the younger generation is ACTUALLY pissed at their plight.

                                                                                                                      I hope you want to give more and as a consequence make more.

                                                                                                                      EARN IT. Be as tough as your greatest great grandsire. Earn your reference.

                                                                                                                      PUT

                                                                                                                      YOUR

                                                                                                                      TIME

                                                                                                                      IN

                                                                                                                      You'll be better for it.

                                                                                                                      And so will your nation.

                                                                                                                      Keep fighting smart. Keep meeting folks, keep bettering yourself. Keep being awesome. Keep fighting.

                                                                                                                      And when you eventually earn your plot you'll be a good master of the house because of that fight... you'll tip your yardboy well, you'll appreciate the backbreaking effort your garbagemen put in, you'll appreciate the kid working the register at McDonald's when your child wants a Happy Meal, you'll smile when your cashier can't find the right SKU... you'll appreciate what you have. You'll be an upright citizen.

                                                                                                                      Because you've been there. You've BEEN them. You've not forgotten that reflection. That asshole. That you.

                                                                                                                      Because you fucking earned it.

                                                                                                                      Earned it with third shifts, minimum wage, doubles and weekends. Earned it with your time, your life, your blood.

                                                                                                                      Earned it without shutting the door behind you.

                                                                                                                      And that will make you as grand a person as there has ever been.

                                                                                                                      [–]airnoone 6 points7 points ago

                                                                                                                      My parents never had to do this shit. Why the previous generations expect us to work ourselves to death for the privilege of landing an office job. Oh that's right. We're entitled.

                                                                                                                      [–]apoutwest 15 points16 points ago

                                                                                                                      Nice story but it's absolute fucking horse shit, because what you'll actually get is your ass worked off until you're 65 and if you're lucky you might get to retire with the scraps you've saved up.

                                                                                                                      By then all the time you've put in at the office going in early and staying late neglecting your diet, your heath, you happiness will have taken its toll on your body, on your soul.

                                                                                                                      You're fat, you're old, you're weak, you're sick even if you've managed to make a dime in your time under the grind stone what the fuck are you going to spend it on now?

                                                                                                                      And what have you done it for? To prop up the towers of a tiny number of insanely wealthy who think you're worth less than their piss.

                                                                                                                      Your rags to riches story is a lie, the American Dream a lie that keeps you in step while this capitalist beast we've created walks you into the furnace that keeps this twisted machine turning.

                                                                                                                      [–]juicelee777 2 points3 points ago

                                                                                                                      needs more upvote

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                                                                                                                        [–]Newbie1318 3 points4 points ago

                                                                                                                        Came here to say this sadly is exactly what's happening. I work a a very large well known hospital and they are THE dumbest an most biased with their hiring practices. I was lucky as I had my training there so they knew me before hiring. We have needed techs multiple times and by the laws of HR they legally have to post the job posting but they usually will go with someone they know. One would think this makes sense, but not always. They just hired a girl after her references flat out said she is a liability and was asked to leave her previous job due to "bullying in the workplace". Yet they hired her because it was easier than looking around at people they didn't know. Depressing.

                                                                                                                        [–]paralacausa 2 points3 points ago

                                                                                                                        Are you sure it's not because of this?

                                                                                                                        [–]deanykg 2 points3 points ago

                                                                                                                        Original artist is Hejibits.

                                                                                                                        When this meme first popped up, the website name was still on the comic. Please don't take it off when you're making your edits. Hejibits is a really fun comic and the writer deserves the recognition.

                                                                                                                        [–]Rhyotion 0 points1 point ago

                                                                                                                        pro tip: start your own business.

                                                                                                                        [–]robrmm -1 points0 points ago

                                                                                                                        Someone reads them, I promise! I applied for a job over 3 months ago, just got an email back from another firm that had my initial email forwarded to them - very similar position, qualifications etc. Granted this is after roughly 2 years of trying to find another job, and well over 100 personalized cover letters, portfolio, etc. sent. Wait what the fuck am I saying? Ha! I re-read what I just wrote...shit sucks bro, deal with it.

                                                                                                                        [–]douchequadbike 0 points1 point ago

                                                                                                                        Do you have a degree? Whats it in?

                                                                                                                        [–]Tropicallo 1 point2 points ago

                                                                                                                        In the exact same boat as you. I also believe this is exactly what happens.

                                                                                                                        [–]hoffy87 1 point2 points ago

                                                                                                                        Dear mother of god. This is me.

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