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[–]sgtpepper901 712 points713 points ago

It's a good thing that dog is not food bowl aggressive.

[–]greentangent 254 points255 points ago

That is a really stupid way to test the theory though.

[–]matsrudi 121 points122 points ago

It is also a good way to teach your dog to NOT be aggressive. You'll have to do it when he is a puppy. If you steal their food from them when they are young, but remember to give it back, they won't be that protective of their food when they are older.

Worked on my dog, and I am willing to bet that it was done to this shepherd.

[–]donteatolive 96 points97 points ago

Yup. I do this with my puppy every day. Pet her all over, pick up her feet and pull on her ears, put my hands in her food, take the food away and give it back, all so that if some day a kid walks up and puts her hands in her bowl she won't give two shits.

[–]TheCorruption 30 points31 points ago

Same process I used with my dog when he was a pup. I still do reinforcement training with him on occasion, and never had a problem with aggression. That being said, other than my wife and I, we have not tested him out with an outsider.

[–]donteatolive 18 points19 points ago

My girl is tested with all kinds of outsiders, people and animals. I have family mess with her when we visit for the holidays and everyone is instructed to give her treats in the most invasive way possible (holding it up in their fingers so she has to be gentle and careful every time). I also would have my parents dogs sit right by her and watch her eat after they finished their food (she's kind of a slow eater for a corgi, still a fast eater for a dog). If she made a mess they would eat it up off the floor and she just had to deal with it. They are all completely docile dogs with people and with each other, even around food.
You just have to put in the time with the their training from the start.
Now, I do all of this because she is training as a therapy dog to work with children in hospitals. She can't have ANY anxiety or aggression to go into that sort of situation.

[–]McPuccio 7 points8 points ago

I fucking love corgis and I love people who care about their dogs. It's really sad to me when I see an untrained dog. Dogs are pack animals and very intelligent. Untrained dogs are just frustrated more often than not.

[–]Sfdavidbest 13 points14 points ago

My service dog was trained like this but with greater rewards added. e.g. Pull the food away, when it returns there is a piece of chicken in the bowl. Progress to sticking your face down like you are eating the dog's food, voila, more chicken. He is 9 years old and will share his food with any dog/cat/person with no problem. Admittedly not many people want to share his food but he doesn't know that. Same thing for pulling on tail and ears. Reward with treats.

[–]donteatolive 5 points6 points ago

Oh man that is a great idea! Thanks for that. I will do that starting tomorrow. Olive's only problem right now is when we reach for her bowl she eats a little faster so she can eat more before we take it. It usually results in her making a bit of a mess but she is very calm waiting for the bowl. I can put my fingers in her mouth and pull food out while she's eating without her having any kind of a problem too. I think the treat reward system will help her calm down when I take the bowl.

[–]Sfdavidbest 2 points3 points ago

Using chicken or boiled chicken liver I found it only took a couple of times for my dog to be fine with anything I did with his food. I also borrowed children to play the same game under supervision so that he would be completely safe if the situation ever arose. The training of pulling ears and tail for a service animal was borderline abusive and I wouldn't do it that hard on a pet but if a child ever yanks on my dogs tail or ear in a crowd nothing will happen.

[–]donteatolive 1 point2 points ago

Oh yes, I don't yank on her hard while she's eating - just rub my hands all over her the way a kid might. She also doesn't have a tail so no worries there! She's been through enough lately with her ears as she's had a bit of an ear infection. Hopefully it will help her see that my poking and prodding doesn't hurt her, though. I'll boil some chicken tomorrow to have on hand for meal times. Thank you so much for the advice!

[–]Sfdavidbest 1 point2 points ago

For almost a decade my old dog went to the vet once or twice a year for ear infections until I found this pre-antibiotic recipe for an ear cleaner.

4 oz 99% pure isoprpyl alcohol

2 drops 2% gentian violet

1 Tablespoon boric acid powder.

I mix this in a 4 oz. eyedropper bottle and used it twice a day for a week to get rid of his infection and then about once a month to keep his ears clear. The 99% alcohol is better at drying out the ears than the standard 70%/91% alcohol. You can find millions of references to this dog ear cure on the internet and buy all the ingredients from amazon. My old dog never got a bad ear infection again after I discovered this.

Careful it can stain things.

[–]donteatolive 0 points1 point ago

Awesome! Thanks.

[–]pinkrayzen 0 points1 point ago

My GSD was getting funky, yeasty ears and I found that recipe online. Problem was that nobody sold gentian violet anymore, and I was needing it asap. I found Liquid Health K9 Ear Solutions at my local feed store, and it's pretty much the same thing. Cleared it up real quick.

[–]sharktraffic 3 points4 points ago

Even as a puppy my Jack russell would fight to the death for her food, because of prison rules. When she was born she was the runt of the litter so all her brothers and sisters would destroy her to get her food. She learned quickly that violence is the answer. I miss that dog :(

[–]CTRL_ALT_RAPE 2 points3 points ago

I used to try it on homeless people. Not very effective.

[–]HockeyBein 2 points3 points ago

.... upvote?

[–]Wilcows 1 point2 points ago

Turn them on their backs also helps a lot. The most maybe. They resist a lot at first, but if you train them to allow you to lay them on their backs they become a lot safer.

[–]Skacoreal 11 points12 points ago

Oh. My god. Thank you. My ex girlfriend and I would get into arguments because I would put my hand in the dish, pet my dog, pull him away, etc. she would yell at me to leave him alone. My explanations would fall on deaf ears.

[–]McFanci 14 points15 points ago

Every dog has a threshold, though. Training will increase the tolerance, but bother it enough and it can bite.

[–]SupaFly-TNT 4 points5 points ago

Also, some dog items bring it out more than others; you can take just about anything from our puggle including her food; except for a specific bacon flavored raw hide. She won't bite but will growl at you; she's never bit anyone over it but still more aggressive and out of her normal character.

Ive seen this with friends dogs too; I'm not sure why it seems to be related to rawhides though.

[–]JackGentleman 2 points3 points ago

If someone would try to steal my bacon or steak, you can bet your ass I'd growl at him aswell.

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[–]FistedSister 11 points12 points ago

It's a horrible way to teach your kid to fuck with a dog's food while its eating.

[–]Vimsefreet 1 point2 points ago

How do you NOT teach a kid to touch stuff and such? That's a kids basic instincts, just like a dog has instincts.

[–]FistedSister 11 points12 points ago

Start with wall sockets and "treats" that you keep under the kitchen sink.

Edit: it's a kid, not an ant farm. It's your job to teach it shit.

[–]Vimsefreet 1 point2 points ago

The kid in this gif can't be taught such stuff. That's kind of the reason why you baby proof your home supplies and don't store forks close to electrical outlets.

[–]FistedSister 7 points8 points ago

Or move the baby away from the eating dog.

[–]brewmeister58 4 points5 points ago

but karma

[–]iyouhesheitweyouthey 0 points1 point ago

You could just let the next dog teach him. Harder lesson though.

[–]Finniono 15 points16 points ago

Man, I trust the hell out of my dog, but I know better than to mess with his food. This is seriously messed up. Even if that shep is some kind of miracle dog you can still push too far. Not to mention that this kid might very well go and try that with someone else's pet and get a chunk taken out of his face.

[–]SuminderJi 0 points1 point ago

It works, but a dog can still snap. Just like how people can have a bad day. One day my dog took his treat and went under the futon.

...snapped at me. The only time hes ever done that but I would not trust a baby to just fuck with a dog like that.

[–]harpua_dog 3 points4 points ago

Best thing I did with my dog when she was a puppy was to play with her, then knock her down and bite her in the neck. Not hard, no pain, nothing weird... but actual teeth on the neck. Now I am Alpha Dog. The downside is dog hair in your mouth, but I have a well behaved pup.

[–]Teotwawki69 1 point2 points ago

That's exactly the way the adult dogs would have done it, which is why it works. No pain involved, no actual biting, but it sends the message "behave now." Sorry to see you're getting down voted by people who can't figure out that the best way to train puppies is to mimic what their canine parents would have done, instead of treat them like delicate little human babies -- which is the fastest way to create an uncontrollable adult dog.

[–]harpua_dog 0 points1 point ago

Yeah, I learned a long time ago not to complain about mystery downvotes... thanks for the validation! I didn't just latch on and start gnawing at her jugular nor have I ever been violent with an animal, unless you count fishing for food. I would also growl a little too when doing it, that seemed to help.

[–]therowdydog 4 points5 points ago

This technique also worked for me on children.

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    [–]HundRetter 1 point2 points ago

    A better way of "take the food and give it back" is the trade game. Trade lower value items for higher value items.

    [–]nicolemily -1 points0 points ago

    As an adult, I would and will do this with my dog. But I hope no parent would put their child in any potential danger like this...no matter how wonderful the dog is. This is supposed to be funny, but it puts my anxiety through the roof!

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      [–]chewp911 45 points46 points ago

      Exactly what I was thinking.

      [–]daniellelasvegas 18 points19 points ago

      Thought the same thing. My pit bull wouldn't have done a thing but my chihuahua would've...go figure.

      [–]projectemily 23 points24 points ago

      Chihuahuas are one of the most aggressive breeds. We just hear about it less because most people get bitten by a chihuahua and go and find a bandaid. Where as the average (but less frequently occurring) pit bull bite might require a trip to urgent care for some stitches.

      [–]MasterSprtn117 7 points8 points ago

      When a small dog acts up, aww how cute.

      When a big dog acts up, you train it.

      [–]daniellelasvegas 1 point2 points ago

      She's never bitten me, but she's definitely tested her boundaries before. She's very aggressive, but I did a lot of research before getting her so I knew I would be dealing with a feisty one. She's bad around food, but with toys she's a peach. My pit is the gentle giant, he's over protective of his marrow bones, but what dog isn't? I could reach right into his food bowl if I really wanted to and he would back up and wait patiently.

      [–]projectemily 2 points3 points ago

      Sounds about right. Didn't mean that your chihuahua bit people. just that in general they tend to be much more likely to or at least act aggressively than other dogs.

      [–]daniellelasvegas 1 point2 points ago

      Oh haha no I totally knew what you meant. She did nip at a few friends though. Annoying little thing! Haha

      [–]projectemily 1 point2 points ago

      haha just thought I'd clarify. Sounds like my ex's mom's dog. He's the biggest dog person in the world and it offends him to no end how the thing charges at him and nips.

      [–]donteatolive 0 points1 point ago

      Yup. In this study they were much higher on the list than pits - http://kgarcia1113.hubpages.com/hub/Top-10-Most-Aggressive-Dog-Breeds

      [–]notsurewhatiam 1 point2 points ago

      I can definitely concur. My chihuahua scares the fuck out of my bigger dog when he goes near her food.

      [–]Dracius 20 points21 points ago

      It's a good thing that they trained their dog to not be food bowl aggressive.

      FTFY

      All of the dogs I've had since they were puppies are not food aggressive because I bothered them through every single meal they ate for the first year of their life. I pulled on their tails, lifted their paws, stuck my hand in their bowl, took their bowl away, shoved my face near their face, put my hand under their neck and so forth. Then when I switched them to raw meats I continued to pester them while they ate and steal away their food. Most they do now when I bother them is whimper and lick my face to get me to leave them alone.

      Not that I'm condoning putting a baby in this type of situation, it is important that the dog realizes the baby is in charge in case the baby does something stupid (as babies and children often do) and ends up in a situation like this when you're in the other room. Also, dogs are more tolerant of puppies and as a result they tend to show that same tolerance towards babies as well.

      [–]Clever__Girl 11 points12 points ago

      Exactly! It would seem like this dog has definitely been trained. I have 2 dogs, a Jack Russell and German Shep, both I taught from day one not to be food aggressive by sticking my hand in their food bowl, hand feeding them bits of kibble, stroking under their chin, petting them while eating, and when I was sure they were good, I let my kids participate with me. Not only do my dogs know that my kids are babies or "puppies" in their eyes, they also know they are above them on the totem pole. I also taught my kids that a) when only did this with our dogs so they learned not to be food aggressive and b) we only know what our dogs will do in that situation, so we NEVER ever approach an eating or sleeping dog (or any dog we don't know for that matter).

      [–]zqwefty 5 points6 points ago

      The dog is probably trained not to be. Way back when I first got my dog we would make it sit and wait while the cat snacked on its food before it was allowed to eat. It's an important part of housebreaking any pet, in my opinion.

      [–]downvotethisnow 57 points58 points ago

      This is a kind of dumb thing to do... any loving family dog that has been fine for years can snap when people fuck with their food... especially a brand new baby.

      [–]donteatolive 7 points8 points ago

      Not if you take the proper steps to train out any food agression. It's a standard thing with puppy training to spend every meal messing with them and their food the way a kid might. If it happens throughout their puppyhood and off and on through their adulthood they won't care.
      Also that baby is obviously not particularly "new" to that dog. It's not a newborn.

      [–]downvotethisnow 12 points13 points ago

      Read the rest of my posts, I mention the training. That being said even assuming the dog has been trained as a puppy this behaviour isn't smart.

      [–]Kazang 1 point2 points ago

      Dogs have patience and a limit, some have less patience than others. Even really well trained dogs can lose their temper.

      [–]donteatolive 0 points1 point ago

      But no well-trained dog's limit should involve food. Pain - sure, food - definitely not. It's not like the baby in this video is even teasing the dog with the food. She pulls the bowl away but the dog is always still able to eat and shows no signs of frustration or aggression. Either way, the baby should be able to take the bowl and sit in it without an aggressive reaction from the dog if the owners have taken the proper steps with his training.

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      [–]troll2507 6 points7 points ago

      It does in the eyes of a dog. Seeing as it's new to the family, the dog is likely to see it as lower down in the pecking order than itself.

      [–]Teotwawki69 1 point2 points ago

      Not if the parents did their job right before they had the baby which, judging from this video, they did. You have to prepare the dog for the baby's arrival, then make it clear (from even before day one) that this new creature is on the same level as the humans.

      [–]troll2507 -1 points0 points ago

      This is clearly how it was done in the video, yes, but I was said "a" dog, not "the" dog. I was just pointing out that most untrained dogs would judge a baby as young as this to be socially inferior.

      [–]W360 2 points3 points ago

      You are missing the point

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        [–]evilalmia 10 points11 points ago

        I was kind of scared watching this, when my daughter was 6 months old my husband was playing with her on the carpet of my in-laws house, they have a little Boston terrier which was hiding a dog biscuit in his bed and they had no idea, my daughter got a little too close to the dogs bed and before my husband could react the dog snapped my daughter's nose.... she's 6 now and will forever have a scar on her face.

        [–]donteatolive 8 points9 points ago

        This is entirely the fault of whoever trained the dog, though. (not necessarily the current owner as older rescues can have unfixable food aggression, though they rarely are adopted out). Owners of new puppies should take the steps to train out food aggression and general possessive behavior. It is very easy to do when they are young.

        [–]nicolemily 0 points1 point ago

        That's awful!! It's so silly for people to say "oh well, if it was trained properly"...who knows how each dog is trained?! Who knows if they will 100% of the time remember their training?! People shouldn't put their children in a situation where a dog could potentially harm them. I am sorry about your daughter; that is a good example of why people should be safe rather than sorry!

        [–]donteatolive 0 points1 point ago

        Would you be afraid to let your child near a service dog? If you had a blind child or a child who experiences seizures etc. would you not trust them with a service animal because it may snap? Or do you understand that those well trained animals out there will not snap?
        There are plenty of completely trustworthy animals out there. The issue is that we have people in here who are assuming their dog is nice because they've always been nice but have never been tested vs owners who have sought training for their dogs to be absolutely certain they won't be aggressive. I don't just have a happy-go-lucky dog who I think is going to be nice because she always has been, I have a dog who I work with every day and put through very stressful situations so that she can be a service animal that works with children in the hospital. I can assure you when she is done with her training there is NO situation that would make her bite these children, despite the equipment and general hospital atmosphere. These kids will be able to give her treats, hug her, pet her, pull on her, take her for walks, and she will be just fine.

        [–]gooddaysir 1 point2 points ago

        To be fair, it's not just dogs that are like that. When I was 1 or 2, we went to Florida on vacation with another family from our neighborhood. I don't remember the story, but I bit her on the nose for some reason. Thirty-some-odd years later, she still has the scar on her nose. If you're out there, Tammy, I'm sorry! LOL

        [–]eishaschen 1 point2 points ago

        And another one... I was bit by a terrier (I think?) in the face when I was two. I have two small scars on my left cheek to show for it. I have no idea what provoked the bite, however. I was just petting it.

        [–]enr 0 points1 point ago

        A lab bit my face when I was 2 (I think, maybe younger) apparently because I was kind of supporting myself on it and it had bad joints or something that made it painful for it. I have a scar on my cheek that I know is from that event and a small dot right next to my eye that I'm pretty sure is as well. Scary thought that I might have lost vision in an eye because my grandfather can't recognize that a growling dog and a small child next to it is a dangerous situation.

        [–]IAmNotAnElephant -1 points0 points ago

        When I was a baby my family was having dinner at my dad's boss's house at the time, I was left alone with the dog and it ended up biting my side for some reason, no one knows for sure why.

        [–]workpuppy 2 points3 points ago

        I was thinking that...Not many dogs I'd try that with.

        [–]lucilletwo 2 points3 points ago

        I was a 3 year old who decided to play this game with a german shepherd. I'm now a 27 year old with a 3 inch scar still visible under my left eye.

        [–]Fangs78 5 points6 points ago

        And it can happen with ANY dog. People need to remeber that.

        Our super super nice dog that never touched a human even when "harrassed" by kids, joykilled lemmings when hiking...

        I also witnessed a lab bite our dog because our dog was eating from its own bowl..."mine bitch!!!" ...a fucking lab!

        [–]Vessix 2 points3 points ago

        More likely a seemingly "nice" dog behaving like that just hasn't been trained properly... but you're right, one can never be 100% sure.

        [–]donteatolive 0 points1 point ago

        Do you trust service dogs? Just because a dog seems nice doesn't mean it has been trained specifically for food aggression (or lemming aggression?). If you have taken the time to properly train your dog you will know when to trust it, not assume it is nice because nothing has ever been tested before.

        [–]Fangs78 -1 points0 points ago

        In a word: certainly not!

        You can't trust a service dog any more than a "family dog" when it comes to shit like this. You seem to think that training will off a dogs instincts and replace them with a human moral code. That is naive.

        A dog is trainable because it will do what its superiors tell it to do. Its a pack animal so that comes naturally to it. What ALSO comes naturally to it is to defend its position in the pack. Furiously. A toddler is such a threat. Because it can be perceived as weak and worthless to a pack-centered dog mind. You can give it as much training as you want, but it will STILL have some natural instincts at its core. And I would NEVER leave it up to chance that a dog is able to repress those instincts. Especially when it comes to leaving a dog alone with a toddler.

        Also, depending on what type of service dog you are talking about, it is sometimes trained to react on its instincts. A guard dog for example. It is trained to defend what it perceives as its "domain" fiercely. Even when its humans that is trespassing. Police dogs are also trained to be aggressive towards humans the trainer tells it is "bad". I would much sooner trust a family dog which if properly trained, is supposed to be a the bottom of any hierarchy it is part of.

        tl;dr_ Leave any dog alone in a room with a toddler and you are asking for trouble

        [–]donteatolive 0 points1 point ago

        Guard dogs are absolutely not service dogs. I would highly advise you to read recent research from dog behavioralists. Your assertions are not based in recent science in any way.
        Also, you should read on wolves (which are not dogs but what you seem to think are dogs) instincts involving puppies in their pack and food. They all share with the pups, not just the mother, not just the parents.
        You should really head over to r/dogtraining some time and do some reading. There is a lot of research out there and all dogs can be trained a lot better than you seem to think. You should also do more research on service dogs and what they do. They are truly amazing, trustworthy animals.

        [–]Fangs78 -1 points0 points ago

        Nope. I am quite content in not leaving toddlers alone with dogs. Dont really see the need to do that anyway.

        [–]Raneados 2 points3 points ago

        I am REALLY happy I didn't just see a dog bite a child in half.

        Holy shit I realize it's cute and everything, but this is like THE most sure way to get a dog to bite you.

        [–]saturdayraining 0 points1 point ago

        only if youre a shitty dog owner, and dont train your dog right

        [–]Raneados 1 point2 points ago

        Very true!

        [–]saturdayraining 1 point2 points ago

        awww, i was being all harsh, and you were all positive.....

        upvotes for your kindness and multi-faceted views in the face of harsh comments

        [–]CaptainYankaroo -1 points0 points ago

        or the dog just acts out.. shit happens man, even Lassie might have had a bad day, would you risk your babies face? I wouldn't. I love my dog and he is definitely not food aggressive (even against other dogs) but I would not let my 1 year old fuck with his food bowl, even if I had done it a hundred times.

        [–]saturdayraining -1 points0 points ago

        I agree that it's not a good idea to purposefully do it, its just tempting fate.

        but if a kid wandered over to my dogs bowl while he was eating, I shouldnt be so nervous that I rush over to grab them. Dogs should all be trained to not care at all if they are disturbed while eating. Stopping kids from doing this is just a precaution, like not letting your kid run on cement. Yeah, little uncoordinated are gonna run on cement, and they might fall, but it's not so big a problem that parents everywhere would be commenting how "incredibly irresponsible it is that a child ran on such a hard surface".

        all bets are off if you didnt train your dog right, or got an older rescue. and just because a dog is "super sweet" does not mean it's trained right.

        even a dog acting out, if properly trained, should not bite. They should never associate biting with aggression.

        [–]HundRetter 0 points1 point ago

        Any thing with teeth can bite, regardless of training. People make this mistake far too often.

        [–]saturdayraining -1 points0 points ago

        I guess I shouldn't let my kids around other people then, because they have teeth

        [–]HundRetter 0 points1 point ago

        Yes, that's exactly the same thing and definitely not a false equivalency.

        [–]saturdayraining -1 points0 points ago

        you said "anything with teeth can bite" and you are right

        and people have teeth and they can bite

        This is all true.

        but, just like dogs, you can teach people not to bite. you should worry about a well trained dog attacking you as much as you should worry about one of yor friends attacking you. It could techincally happen, but I usually dont live my life assuming it will.

        [–]HundRetter -1 points0 points ago

        Dogs are not humans, so that line of reasoning is way off base.

        You can train a dog all you like, but there is no 100%. Dogs bite for a lot of reasons, and generally because people completely miss the signs and warnings.

        [–]honeybadger88 3 points4 points ago

        Very good idea to train your dog early that people can take his food whenever they please, and Life Isn't Fair. Very BAD idea to test this concept with a small child because it's "cute." (As amusing as this GIF is).

        [–]donteatolive 1 point2 points ago

        I doubt they began training the dog with this child. The training would have been going on for years and at the point this was taken they fully trust the dog.

        [–]honeybadger88 0 points1 point ago

        Sure, but I still think it's irresponsible to let a child do that. Nothing against the dog, who seems like an awesome guy. Just not a good idea. (Also, note so many dog bite reports seem to begin with "We had no idea it would happen!" Well, you DID...but you failed to notice an obvious sign or put your dog in a situation that set him up to fail).

        [–]donteatolive 0 points1 point ago

        It absolutely depends on the animal and the animal's training. My dog is being trained as a therapy animal specifically for children. She needs to be 100% trustworthy with everyone but especially children. I am not hoping that she won't bite them or hoping she won't be freaked out by the equipment in the hospitals. I am going through the proper steps to be absolutely SURE that she will be calm and balanced through anything with any child in any situation. She has no food aggression but her training goes far and beyond food. No reason why we shouldn't believe - especially based on the video here - that these parents haven't taken proper steps to train food aggression out of their animal.

        [–]honeybadger88 0 points1 point ago

        See, I still think that although the dog may be good with kids messing about with their food, it's still an unneeded risk...and not "cute." Also, worth pointing out that you don't want that kid to think it's OK to do this with any dog....

        [–]msmorize 2 points3 points ago

        I was thinking the same thing. Kind of scary. For the most part, I would trust my dog... But he's a dog.

        [–]ForgotPssword 1 point2 points ago

        Yeah, my dog would not be so easy going about that kind of treatment of his bowl during his meal. The baby would become dinner.

        [–]insanekid66 1 point2 points ago

        yea, those parents are shitty

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          [–]WheelsOfConfusion 15 points16 points ago

          Every German Sheppard I have ever come across eats their food laying down.

          Has anyone else noticed this?

          [–]Bgdojo 3 points4 points ago

          Yeah, mine does this too.

          [–]hawkofthemonth 0 points1 point ago

          Odd, I've had three and they have all tended to eat standing up.

          [–]Kingdom5KR 0 points1 point ago

          Did you raise their food bowls?

          [–]hawkofthemonth 0 points1 point ago

          We did just recently, actually, so they now have to stand to eat. But for years before, when the bowl was at floor level they were standing anyway.

          [–]dfd02186 36 points37 points ago

          And then the Sheppard ate the baby.

          [–]Bren942 13 points14 points ago

          The shepherd's name is Dingo.

          [–]Zegrod 85 points86 points ago

          My cousin did something like this once, got bit right in the face. Shouldn't be messing with dogs when they get treats/food, how nice, kind and warm-hearted the dog is.

          [–]racamonkey 6 points7 points ago

          Not when you train a dog properly when it is young. Sorry but it's the truth

          [–]honeybadger88 60 points61 points ago

          NO dog is 100 percent — they're only mortal, no matter how beautifully trained they are (and this dog looks like a real gem). You do not want to test your dog's limits with a small child.

          [–]Zegrod 6 points7 points ago

          As I said, it was the nicest and most harmless dog ever. Think it was a treat that my cousin gave it, then reached in to take it back. I am not saying that you are wrong, but I do agree with honeybadger88, that no dog is perfect.

          [–]fitzydog 6 points7 points ago

          Was it a 'He stole my treat, thus bite in face', or 'he stole my treat, must get it back-- OHSHIT!HISFACEWASINTHEWAY!'?

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            [–]Captian_Cocksmith 3 points4 points ago

            You still shouldn't fuck with any dog when its eating no matter how well trained they are.

            [–]racamonkey -1 points0 points ago

            aye aye captain cocksmith

            [–]leComte_deFrouFrou 1 point2 points ago

            who cares? All that needs to happen is for the dog's training to lapse just once and that kid is getting reconstructive surgery.

            Seriously for us non dog owners this is why we think you people are crazy.

            *source: I was bit by dogs on two separate occasions as a kid.

            [–]racamonkey 2 points3 points ago

            By all mean from your point of view you're completely right, you should never really trust a dog that you don't know completely, even if the owner says it's friendly.

            [–]leComte_deFrouFrou 1 point2 points ago

            I'm telling you, since I was bit by my own dog at one time, that you can never be 100% positive about any animal. Not even a human being, ok?

            All that talk about training dogs by taking their bowls away and so forth . . . that's great. But don't test that with some poor helpless baby. That is putting a kid who has no idea what is going on in potential danger, and for what? Really, for what? A laugh? That's shameful.

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              [–]classiczach 11 points12 points ago

              I like to imagine the baby mutters "bitch" at the very end

              [–]S-D-J 2 points3 points ago

              Not an ounce of foodguarding. Good dog!

              [–]donteatolive 15 points16 points ago

              So just to clarify here, on r/funny today one of the top posts is someone being crushed to death by a horse but if you point out that the person in the picture is likely dying you'll be downvoted and told that you're what's ruining r/funny. But in this thread we have a well trained, docile dog who appears to be owned by responsible owners who have trained out any and all aggression to the point that it can play with their baby over food and reddit is pulling out the pitchforks? wtf?

              [–]DoctorsAdvocate 1 point2 points ago

              Happens all the time in reddit, Facebook, you tube, real life etc. People are always kinda hypocritical. Just how life is

              [–]Wilcows 1 point2 points ago

              An accident VS intentional retardism. What a good comparison.

              The horse race thing is possible death yeah. But it still looks funny, and where would we be if we can't laugh about dark shit? We'd still be mooring about dropping our fucking lollypop in the gutter 26 years ago.

              This post is by far worse than the one with the horse.

              [–]Teotwawki69 0 points1 point ago

              Because a lot of redditors are idiots when it comes to dogs and think the way to train them is to treat them like precious little human babies and give them nothing but rewards and affection. If they do this, then they've probably had a lot of experience with arbitrarily aggressive and unpredictable dogs, and god forbid anyone can actually figure out proper training and have a dog they never have to worry about, even with a baby or toddler around.

              [–]DeziEzi 39 points40 points ago

              You are extraordinarily lucky your dog is so calm around its food bowl. You played with that child's life right there. As someone who has been attacked by a dog and will forever live with the scars, IT FUCKING SUCKS. Play with (risk) your own face, hands, arms, etc. NOT a child's.

              [–]reden[!] 15 points16 points ago

              You're right, and you know what sucks, it wouldn't be the dog's fault at the end of the day, but he'll het put down anyway thanks to the owner. I have the best chocolate lab, but I still wouldn't let a baby do this.

              [–]Wilcows 2 points3 points ago

              Especially not with fucking huge dogs like this. They will fuck anything up.

              [–]matsrudi 8 points9 points ago

              I wouldn't say that. If the dog has been trained to not be protective of their food when they are young, they probably won't be when they are older. When my dog was a puppy we intentionally took food right out of its mouth, just to show him that we were going to give it back. We can still do that and he has never been aggressive against anyone.

              I'll let a child touch my dogs food bowl anytime.

              Of course, if your dog has EVER been aggressive, or if you don't know it well enough, the you shouldn't take chances like this or let any one do the same.

              I hope that the owner of the shepherd knows the dog well enough to trust it with a little child. Though, this may also be lucky, but it isn't necessarily just luck.

              [–]honeybadger88 4 points5 points ago

              But why would you let a child take that serious risk, y'know? Is it really worth it? That's my logic with this.

              [–]NextAccoumt 5 points6 points ago

              Because you trained your dog correctly and you know nothing will happen? Seems like there are just a ton of shitty dog owners in this thread.

              [–]McPuccio 6 points7 points ago

              "HURR DURR DOGS ARE DANGEROUS."

              Uh. Fuck that. Dogs are very intelligent and when trained correctly will be your friend and protector for life. They have a lot of utility. I bet the baby in this gif is going to be WELL protected when she starts walking around.

              It makes me happy just thinking about well trained dogs and children growing up together. Fucking Old Yeller up in this bitch.

              Aww shit now I wanna cry. Fuck.

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              [–]McPuccio 1 point2 points ago

              Humans are too smart for their own good. Any dog can be trained. We've had dogs since the stone ages dude, it's not a fucking brand new thing.

              Also, I was looking through these comments and seeing your posts and was sad because so many people were ignorant about the utility of shepherd breeds, but as it turns out, it's just you.

              Edit: Wilcox deleted his comment because he got too many downvotes?

              [–]honeybadger88 0 points1 point ago

              I tend to believe that no matter how awesome your dog is, tempting fate is a bad idea, too. As is allowing your dog to be in a situation that could set him up to fail. Why take the risk? Also, when you're dealing with another being - human, animal, whatever - nothing is 100 percent.

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                [–]Jungle_Soraka 4 points5 points ago

                For a honey badger, you really seem to give a shit.

                [–]honeybadger88 0 points1 point ago

                wompwomp

                [–]jrc01 0 points1 point ago

                As someone who works in a call centre for emergency ambulance, I have to agree re: potential dangers. Haemorrhaging children with a mother screaming and the ambulance held up by roadworks is something that chills the bones. I agree that you shouldn't play with this risk - definitely not so you can film it. I do, however, appreciate people training their dogs so they can attempt to avert crisis, harm and the eventual killing of their animal if things do go wrong. Prevention of risk is not cure of the risk, but I think someone putting that much effort in understands that.

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                  [–]suspen_sion 2 points3 points ago

                  Did anyone else hear the noise in their head of the bowl being dragged back and forth?

                  [–]S-D-J 1 point2 points ago

                  I DID. We, sir, are fucking nuts. And our dogs are assholes.

                  [–]suspen_sion 0 points1 point ago

                  Lol. I have a cocker spaniel. <3 her

                  [–]S-D-J 0 points1 point ago

                  I have a corgi. A very slim corgi. But in her mind, she's a fatty. A big fat fatty. A fatty who must have EVERY SINGLE BIT of food in her dish, even if the dish has to end up on the other side of the room for that to happen.

                  [–]Crzwilly1974 2 points3 points ago

                  This is one time I actually cringed while watching.

                  [–]no_fatties2 2 points3 points ago

                  ITT: people that don't know shit about raising children, or dogs.

                  [–]KARMAN012 3 points4 points ago

                  They probably trained the dog not to be aggressive when it comes to food.. obviously they knew the dog wasn't going to hurt their child and let him him ply round with it. Give the parents some slack

                  [–]pastorblaster 3 points4 points ago

                  Nope. The parents should also be training their child not to do that. Your dog might be fine with it, but a lot of dogs wouldn't be, and a baby that age is not going to be able to distinguish.

                  [–]McPuccio 3 points4 points ago

                  This is one of the few dissenting comments that makes a serious point.

                  Everyone here is criticizing an obviously well-trained dog when what they should be saying is "I hope the parents teach the kid not to mess with animal's (or anyone's for that matter) food."

                  That's significantly easier that training a dog from birth to not be food-aggressive as well as chill around babies/humans.

                  [–]pastorblaster -1 points0 points ago

                  Dogs are usually pretty easy to train if you work at it (try taking their food bowl away and adding high value treats to it, to reward them), but there's no guarantee that everyone has done that, or has gotten around to it yet.

                  I've had children and even babies run up to my dogs without any hesitation. A little girl about a year old ran up to my 70 pound pit bull, hugged him, and planted a big old smooch right on his mouth a while back before her parents could stop her. They were pretty shocked, but they said she did that with her dog all the time, so she probably just assumed that's what you do with dogs.

                  My dog just kissed her back, and while it was adorable, it was also pretty scary to think what might have happened with a different dog.

                  [–]DesertCoot 8 points9 points ago

                  Jesus Christ there are a ton of people on here unable to believe that a dog can be properly trained. The dog is obviously very well trained and well natured, and it is awfully ignorant and self-righteous to make judgments on parenting abilities from this short clip.

                  [–]donteatolive 1 point2 points ago

                  "These parents put loads of time and energy into training this dog to the point that a baby can play in its food and it is happy and submissive to the baby, they must be horrible, negligent parents to that baby!"

                  [–]Wilcows 2 points3 points ago

                  Maybe you should keep your mouth shut and let the fucking people with experience talk.

                  I have two of the sweetest dogs and they are VERY well trained, yet I've seen them snap one or two times. It was just very short, and they very soon realized that they made a mistake and their mistakes weren't serious or big. But it proves that nobody is perfect. Mistakes happen.

                  And the dog in the gif is a big motherfucking dog versus a pathetic infant. And you're saying that just because it's trained it has no potential for a slip? Even people make mistakes, and we are the most trained living thing within a 60 light-year radius.

                  Don't fucking pretend like having this infant near the child is work the (very small) risk of this dog making a mistake.

                  And especially don't you fucking say that dogs can't make mistakes at all because they are trained.

                  Gosh smartass people like you...

                  [–]DesertCoot 0 points1 point ago

                  First off, I apologize that I upset you, that was not my intention. If I may ask, when your dogs made their "mistakes" (you mentioned "snap" so I am guessing they were giving a warning and did not bite, which furthers my point that a bite is not an "accident" or "mistake", but rather a deliberate action) were they provoked in some way? Were there warning signs? I'm sure there were. Dogs don't attack people for no reason (especially their owners), and if you are worried a dog may, it should probably not be around people at all.

                  If they have had this dog a considerable amount of time and it has never shown any aggression, particularly food aggressio,n to people or animals, it won't develop it over night. Also, dogs are not wild, savage beasts, hence why they are in our homes. They won't "accidentally" bite a child (they fully know the difference between human and doll or something they might otherwise bite), and many times, especially with big dogs, they are protectors of the children. Dogs in the household should regard all humans as the owners, and no attempt by the dog to make you feel otherwise should be tolerated.

                  People treat and regard dogs in different ways. My dogs, for instance, are not barn dogs or guard dogs, they are members of my family, and they respect and trust everyone in my home. I know their habits and tendencies. I know what they like and what they don't. I know their warning signs and their triggers. I understand wanting to be extra cautious, and you can do that, but it doesn't mean someone is wrong if they trust their dog in a situation where you don't trust yours. I'm sure there are situations where you trust your dog that I may not trust mine; they are all different and it is important to know your dog and its temperament to make the proper judgement calls as situations arise.

                  Btw, what did you mean by people with experience? Were you or a family member bitten as a child? If so, I am sorry for that and I understand your apprehension when viewing a clip such as this one.

                  [–]Wilcows 0 points1 point ago

                  I mean all the people who have no dogs, and who have dogs that are trained, but never once slipped. That means you can't really talk about it, just because it didn't happen with them doesn't mean it can't happen. I know this for sure, out of experience. That's my point.

                  About my dog, I can only remember one slip, and that was when she was asleep and I petted her. She might;ve had a bad dream or something, but she woke up quite violently, but only for a split second. This wasn't an exact case like with food, but it just shows that no-one is perfect. And regardless, it's just very very dumb to assume that a dog will never slip just because its trained. It is still possible that it will happen, though small that chance may be. And it is not worth the risk of your childs safety.

                  That so many people are unable to comprehend this fact just annoys the living shit out of me.

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                    [–]mangletron 2 points3 points ago

                    Dangerous and irresponsible care of child.

                    [–]capt_slim 9 points10 points ago

                    The Internet: Where being an irresponsible adult is okay as long as it's for karma

                    [–]PaullyDee19 0 points1 point ago

                    Have you read the comments?

                    [–]kreyanor 1 point2 points ago

                    Regardless of how well trained a dog is, allowing a child to interfere with its food when there is a potential for aggression is still irresponsible. What makes this even more irresponsible is that somebody is recording it.

                    Protip: It doesn't matter how well trained your furry friends are. Never leave a toddler unsupervised near them. Never, even under supervision, allow a toddler to put themselves in a position where your animal may be prone to attack them.

                    [–]McPuccio 5 points6 points ago

                    Again, you train your dog correctly and they will be the best babysitter you will ever have. German Shepherds especially are known for being very loving and protective of children when trained well. I grew up with a very old german shepherd and she took my shit because she knew I was a human and higher in the pack order. She also protected me when I was like 5-7 and playing in the woods, fought off a dog that was coming at me and kept bobcats and shit away.

                    Like.

                    Dogs and kids together is the best thing ever when the dog is trained.

                    This dog is obviously trained correctly.

                    [–]Wilcows 2 points3 points ago

                    when the dog is trained

                    Wooow, a few years of training and a couple of generations of domestication VS BILLIONS OF YEARS OF FUCKING GET YOURS AWAY FROM MY MOTHERFUCKING FOOD OR I'LL FUCK YOU UP

                    Not saying you can't trust trained animals, but you definitely can't trust them 100%. Nothing in the motherfucking universe can be trusted 100%. And the amount of trust you have to subtract from that 100% in the case of dogs is absolutely not worth the risk of having your kid fucked up for life or killed. What the fuck do you have to gain from letting your kid do what the kid in the gif does VS what you have to lose?

                    O, you can get a few giggles and a nice video/gif that people can complain about versus motherfucking DEATH

                    [–]McPuccio 0 points1 point ago

                    A "few years" of training? Dude. We've had dogs since the stone ages. A well trained dog is completely safe. I feel like you've never experienced that. I'm sorry man. It's great.

                    I don't think you have any idea how the pack system works, or how strong it is in some the more intelligent breeds. I would recommend a few Jack London novels, as well as look up on the art and history of breeding and training. It's fascinating. Humans aren't the only smart animals in the universe, we're simply the only ones with a spoken language and a dash of philosophy.

                    [–]Teotwawki69 -1 points0 points ago

                    Here's a fun fact that will blow a lot of minds in this thread. In the first half of the 20th century, you know what the most common use for pit bulls was?

                    Babysitting. No joke.

                    [–]McPuccio 1 point2 points ago

                    That was almost fucking front page shit, and people still believe that animals are just mindless little beasts you can teach to fetch?

                    The fuck.

                    Dogs are basically the most intelligent and trainable animal on the planet. Seeing eye dogs? Come on.

                    Dogs are amazing.

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                      [–]NapoleonBonerfart 0 points1 point ago

                      yeah, the comments would beg to differ but it somehow still made it to the front page.

                      [–]girlvinyl 4 points5 points ago

                      Most puppy training books tell you to do certain things to insure your dog is not food aggressive. I have continued to reinforce my dog against food aggression everyday for 12 years. If you take her food away she will just sit there with a super sad face, eyes looking into your soul, sorrow filling the room. This is a basic "manners" thing to train for dogs.

                      [–]ThePunisher56 2 points3 points ago

                      ITT: Reddit is the overprotective mother telling another mother she's a horrible mother for doing this.

                      [–]apinney89 2 points3 points ago

                      I don't want to be one of those guys, but these are some horrible parents. I would not feel bad if that dog attacked that kid.

                      [–]DieCommieScum 31 points32 points ago

                      I'd feel bad for the kid for winning the shitty parent lottery.

                      [–]NotSoGreatDane 5 points6 points ago

                      Depends on the dog. I had a Malamute mix that was the gentlest creature. My little niece, probably a bit older than this baby, would take a bit of kibble from his bowl and hand-feed it to him. He would sit there patiently and let her feed him one bit of kibble at a time, until she got bored with it. Now, my black lab? No fucking way. That dog is an eating machine and very food aggressive.

                      [–]ElyseOreo 5 points6 points ago

                      Although it isn't smart to leave young kids around dogs who are eating ( Or unattended with dogs in general) I don't necessarily believe they're bad parents. The German Shepard looks on the older side of things, meaning the parents have most likely gotten time to know his behavior. By the time you have a full grown dog you most likely know his mannerisms, and how he reacts to certain events. I personally wouldn't trust kids around dogs I don't know very well, or I know to be a little aggressive. If I were in a situation where I had a gentile dog like that, I'd probably allow my hypothetical child to be around it. Currently my dog is a little special, she only likes me, and on occasion she'll get cozy with other people. She's very particular as to where people touch her, and kids just aren't gentile enough with her. I give out warnings, I warn my younger siblings all the time " Don't do that", "she doesn't like that", "she's growling at you"," Leave her alone", " she's going to bite you." I personally feel that after that many warnings if my seven year old brother doesn't get the point that harassing my twelve year old Jack Russel isn't cool, then he deserves the nip she's going to give him.

                      Hopefully the parents of the child aren't as dumb as to leave the child unattended with the dogs, and knew the dog very well. That kid is probably going to end up like me, I have a habit of not being scared of dogs at all, which isn't the best. I'm that kid who'd crawl into the middle of a dog fight, and separate them, or the kid who'd walk up to random stray dogs to give them hugs.... It always drove my mother nuts.

                      [–]GitEmSteveDave 1 point2 points ago

                      My Aussie was a gentle dog. I could easily reach down and take his food with no action from him. But when we were raising a Seeing Eye puppy and also when my cats were around, he saw them as members of the pack, and not alpha ones. So it wasn't abnormal for him to adopt a stance where he covered his bowl and might possibly let out a slight growl if they wandered near. But that was about the length of his aggression, as the cats would normally kick his ass.

                      [–]ElyseOreo 0 points1 point ago

                      It depends on the dog. I grew up with a chocolate lab who didn't care, I could steal her food, pull her hair, ride on her back wearing cowboy boots, and she wouldn't even growl at me, she was the same with other people. As I said, I currently have a Jack Russel with a real attitude, she doesn't let anyone push her around. She's only bitten once ( My friends dad went in the house while we were outside, she bit his ass) other then that incident she's only nipped, and allows us to feed her by hand. I'd never, ever trust her with an infant, or toddler though. I wouldn't risk the possibility of her acting out if they were to touch her to hard, or hurt her.

                      [–]apinney89 -2 points-1 points ago

                      1000x no! That's like saying "I know my brother is a good driver, so I don't care if my child wears a seat belt with him." This is an animal, they don't have logical thought processes and are susceptible to acting on pure instinct at any moment. This situation has a statistically high chance of being dangerous. No pet is special just because you think you know them. They're still just animals.

                      [–]McPuccio 2 points3 points ago

                      You're full of shit if you think dogs don't have logical thinking processes.

                      Dogs are pack animals and understand pack order very well.

                      If they are trained to where they know that they are forever at the low end of the pack order versus humans, as well as understand that the humans will provide for them and care for them, dogs are best possible thing to have around children.

                      Some breeds are less intelligent because of breeding, but shepherds/collies were literally used as babysitters way back when because the people involved had mastered the training of the animals. German Shepherds have a history as being "nannies" for richer children.

                      tl; dr They aren't "just animals."

                      [–]Wilcows 0 points1 point ago

                      You're saying that just because they can think a little they won't potentially snap?

                      So every human being will never do anything wrong/or dangerous according to your logic?

                      Get the fuck out of here. Dogs can still snap, they still have very strong predatory instincts, and it is a BAD idea to let an infant near them when they eat. Yeah the chances of mishaps are small, but big enough not to be worth it.

                      [–]ElyseOreo 0 points1 point ago

                      I'm saying every animal behaves differently. Some are more likely to act aggressively then others. I'm not saying that because you know them they'll be safe around kids, I'm saying as you get to know you're pet you're more likely to have an idea of how they react in certain situations. On one hand you have dogs who are amazingly patient, and on the other you have some that are not willing to put up with your bullshit. On a grander scale of things it's like human beings, we all have instincts, but they very from person to person. What is more likely to piss you off, can be more likely to make me cry, or laugh.

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                        [–]Ecchii 2 points3 points ago

                        Saw a video similar to this where an infant was messing (badly) with a huge dog and I was so relieved it wasn't a link from wikileaks. When I commented asking if it was dangerous or not I got downvoted into oblivion because guess what, it was in /r/aww...

                        TLDR: Fuck /r/aww they blindly refuse to acknowledge any danger of pet/baby interactions.

                        [–]verveinloveland 4 points5 points ago

                        bad parenting...putting your kid at risk...then video taping it... i don't care how sweet you think your dog is...this is just bad parenting

                        [–]Waiting4you 3 points4 points ago

                        Face scarring bites and fatal attacks happen in seconds. This is ridiculous. What happens when that baby grabs a food bowl from a different dog?

                        [–]neomagtyler 1 point2 points ago

                        That's just really negligent. Never get between a dog and his meal.

                        [–]donteatolive 0 points1 point ago

                        I do it twice a day so as to teach my puppy not to be food aggressive or possessive in any way. I put my hands in her bowl, pet her all over, pull her ears, lift her feet, take her bowl and give it back, make her sit and wait until I say ok and back away if I ask, even if it means the cat gets to nibble a little. Twice a day every day. I would trust her with a baby pulling on her bowl. She is also being trained as a therapy dog, but anyone can train food aggression out of a dog. At most shelters they test dogs for food aggression and won't home a dog who exhibits the behavior. No dog SHOULD ever be food aggressive but many are due to poor (no) training.

                        [–]grape_eater 1 point2 points ago

                        I or any other adult can mess with my dog's food and she's perfectly happy to let them. When she gets around another dog, though, she's not so forgiving. I don't know how she would react if a small child played with her food, and I don't intend to find out.

                        [–]McPuccio -1 points0 points ago

                        As long as it was clear that the baby was a human and part of the pack I wouldn't possibly see a problem (shouldn't be hard, you should introduce younger children to dogs anyway and trained dogs will certainly understand what's going on.)

                        [–]grape_eater 0 points1 point ago

                        Yeah, she's fine with the kids in the neighborhood and my nieces and such. But my nieces are 3 and 9, not babies.

                        [–]FuzzyBlumpkinz 1 point2 points ago

                        Not sure why you're being downvoted, sure your dog might think you're a dick sometimes but in the end it and you will be better for it.

                        [–]Valkryth 2 points3 points ago

                        Mine!

                        Nope

                        Mine!

                        Nope

                        FUCK IT I HATE COCOA PUFFS ANYWAY

                        [–]thisisbacontime 1 point2 points ago

                        That patience is so profound.

                        [–]harryLOL 0 points1 point ago

                        That kid was definitely going to eat that piece of food it picked up.

                        [–]foryouonly 0 points1 point ago

                        dat beagle just nommin in the background

                        [–]THOR4GR8JUSTICE 0 points1 point ago

                        Relevant.

                        [–]charliewentnuts 0 points1 point ago

                        If it was a cat, it would've already scratched the fuck out of the child's face.

                        [–]racamonkey 1 point2 points ago

                        TIL reddit hates well behaved dogs

                        [–]Byzet 0 points1 point ago

                        kids lucky he didnt get torn to pieces.

                        [–]Forgersofhalo 0 points1 point ago

                        Damn babies being annoying.

                        [–]pixelpumper 0 points1 point ago

                        ಠ_ಠ Seriously.

                        [–]phat86 -1 points0 points ago

                        awwwww

                        [–]flukz -5 points-4 points ago

                        I feel like a lot of the comments here are indicative of why there's a problem with aggressive dogs. There is NO REASON why your dog is allowed to attack a family member. If it does, that is the end of that dog. Period.

                        Maybe my upringing was significantly different than your own, but we had dogs the entire time, and my younger siblings would ride them like horses, pull their ears, cuddle with them and just generally be obnoxious kids and the dogs would at the worst sigh and roll their eyes. These are dogs, Shepherds, Dobermans, Setters that were large and would rip your throat out if you kicked the door in, but the second you were let into the home they were wagging and friendly

                        Imagine if your toddler climbed up on a friend while they were having dinner at your house and your friend back handed them. "Well that's just Ron, he really loves his steak". NOPE!

                        While I would never test this with a new dog, if you've raised it from a pup you should know well in advance of it's proclivity to attack over food/treat issues.

                        Adoption agencies use a fake hand to reach for a food bowl as a test and if that dog so much as rumbles a nearly silent growl that dog is not adoptable.

                        So many people are saying "dumb parents" or "you would never do that with my dog".

                        Dumb you! You have a shitty dog!

                        [–]Silver_kitty 0 points1 point ago

                        Even the best animal can have one bad day and it's better not to risk it.

                        [–]donteatolive 2 points3 points ago

                        I think there are many avenues besides euthanasia (muzzles, trainers etc.) but other than that I completely agree with you. There is no excuse for a dog to be food aggressive - it is such a standard thing to train out during puppyhood. I would absolutely trust my dog with anyone at any time and those who are openly saying that they know their dog would bite should be putting more effort into their training. Barring some trauma, no one should be ok with their dog exhibiting aggressive behavior and even if there HAS been trauma, the dog needs to be wearing a muzzle and seeing a trainer.

                        [–]flukz 0 points1 point ago

                        I think yours is the first positive comment, understood considering the extremist language I used.

                        Either way, I agree with your agreement. My only brush with muzzles was when later in life my parents adopted a large number of retired greyhounds, and they always were delivered muzzled.

                        Be prepared though. You'll probably lose some of those internet points you've fought so hard to gain :)

                        [–]donteatolive 1 point2 points ago

                        I don't give a crap about points. Haha. Just about telling people about dog training. There are many very well trained and trustworthy dogs out there. The people in this thread have never made their way over to r/dogtraining.

                        As far as the muzzles go, I've known a few dogs who had aggression problems as rescues (and one who is autistic) and who have a hard time with other dogs. They've found quality muzzles that still allow eating and drinking and don't rub on the dog's face. They've not only saved people from possible bites or dog fights, it's helped the dogs learn to find other ways to deal with their anxiety since they don't get the satisfaction or reaction of a bite. It is a handy tool if you are willing to put the time and effort into the training and structure needed with an aggressive dog.

                        [–]flukz 0 points1 point ago

                        I wasn't aware of that. I've also not stopped into that sub, but I will now.

                        The greyhounds all seemed to have quality muzzles, if nothing else because you would hopefully take very good care of a dog you intend to race. They weren't able to drink or eat with them though, so I'm glad someone engineered a device to allow that. Seems simple the more I think of it.

                        I know someone who has a very intense working breed and he does what he calls immersive training, which is a misnomer I believe but is basically he spends all of his free time working with the dog and it's practically an extension of him right now.

                        It's silly to say, but he doesn't give it commands so much now as think of what he wants and gives it a look and it seems almost to instinctively know what he's looking for. He got the dog from a shelter and they had been working to try to get the dog to be more relaxed around people, but now the two of them are almost a unit.

                        I'll really have to look into it more.

                        [–]donteatolive 1 point2 points ago

                        I love the term immersive training. Really that mentality is what we should all have when we bring a dog into a home, but I know I am a bit more intense than most dog owners. My husband and I are totally on the same page with her training and her schedule. Every spare minute I have with her is spent doing something for her training. She's still a puppy, but I intend to have a very well-balanced successful dog. I am just baffled at the idea that people would think that I would be irresponsible for letting my dog near children with food when her whole training is centered around being good near anyone in any circumstance. These people need to see what goes into just a good citizen test. It's really the minimum your dog should be able to do and it's much more in depth than simple food aggression.

                        [–]kr123 4 points5 points ago

                        No, You're just a shitty person and a shitty pet owner. You could 100% do this with my dogs, but would I let my infant pull food away from them? Fuck no, not even if they had no teeth. Not my dog, not any dog. I don't care how docile they are, or how much they normally put up with. Absolutely not. And comparing a dog to an adult is fucking stupid. Dogs have roughly the intelligence of a toddler, so if a toddler hits would you take it out back and shoot it? You're a fucking idiot and I hope you have neither pets nor children.

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