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[–]winja 17 points18 points ago

Oh pneumatic tubes, you held so much hope for the future...

I'm impressed at the accuracy of most of these, and amused at those that differ from reality. A couple even made me sad -- like the thought that cities would be defunct, and everyone would live in the suburbs; or that Americans would be especially healthy.

[–]mcsunshinepuff 12 points13 points ago

We actually are incredibly healty compared to them, even a lazy fat slob will live to be over 60.

[–]winja 12 points13 points ago

Well, true -- the life expectancy he boasts of is quite surpassed.

Primarily I was reacting to: "A man or woman unable to walk 10 miles at a stretch will be considered a weakling."

[–]ascenzion 3 points4 points ago

They still are a weakling today, and considered a weakling; the problem is that there are too many of them. Society has allowed itself to regress in its physical ability.

[–]wavefunction84 0 points1 point ago

Most young people couldn't walk 10 miles which is outright pathetic but that's the kind of society we live in.

Too bad "gymnasiums" in schools are mainly for kids that are heavy into competitive sports. I didn't feel welcomed there at all when I was a student so I used to pretend to leave my sweatpants at home then just go sit on the bleachers with the other out of shape kids (I did get in shape after graduation however).

This is the story everywhere in North America.

[–]Infini-Bus 0 points1 point ago

I started hating gym class in school when kids teased me and would pull my shorts down during class and stuff, so I stopped wearing shorts so that I would have to sit down during gym class. I got a D.

I resented gym-anything for a long time. Fortunately I didn't get fat, I'm just skinny and out of shape. Just now trying to gain some weight and muscle.

[–]jmarkinman 6 points7 points ago

It makes the quote, "The internet is just a series of tubes" so very understandable with this context.

[–]NotADamsel 2 points3 points ago

Given that his audience was other lawmakers, Stevens can hardly be faulted for over-simplifying it.

[–]scyt 30 points31 points ago

No mosquitos or flies

I wish it was true, I wish...

EDIT: I'm surprised how many of these predictions are accurate, like the air conditioning, wireless telephones, cars being cheaper than horses and forts on wheels (tanks).

[–]IceOnFire97 20 points21 points ago

Fun Fact: The mosquito could be removed from the planet without any effect on the ecosystem.

[–]EpicFishFingers 20 points21 points ago

Yeah but they tried to do it with DDT and they grew resistant to it. We'll get them eventually...

Personally I only swat the ones that are hard to swat, and leave the ones that are slow and weak. Un-natural selection should cripple them all >:)

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[–]nextgenkx 6 points7 points ago

oh it's pretty effective

[–]Dr_Merkwurdigliebe 1 point2 points ago

Evolve past that, bitches!

[–]Just_Another_Wookie 1 point2 points ago

If only our battery technology advanced as fast as the rest of it.

[–]Infini-Bus 0 points1 point ago

Batteries are indeed quite the bottle neck, they're holding us back more and more.

[–]Houshalter 0 points1 point ago

Does the mosquito laser distinguish between mosquitoes and other kinds of flying insects?

[–]tylerbrainerd 10 points11 points ago

Unfortunately, you are helping breed a super intelligent breed that only pretends to be slow and easy to swat.

[–]EpicFishFingers 7 points8 points ago

Maybe they'll be intelligent enough to realise that they should avoid biting humans as we pose the biggest threat to them

[–]Infini-Bus 0 points1 point ago

Nano-bot swarms that can be programmed to seek and destroy any species.

[–]EpicFishFingers 0 points1 point ago

That's cool, but then how will we quell our nanobot infestation?

[–]Infini-Bus 0 points1 point ago

Have them come home and turn off

[–]FuturePrimitive 5 points6 points ago

Somehow I doubt this.

[–]NotADamsel 4 points5 points ago

I'd like a source, please. I've heard this before, but "we can remove from existance a tremendously prevalent organism that inhabits nearly every part of the world, with absolutely no effect on the ecosystem anywhere" sounds a little... presumptuous. I mean, sure, it would likely be a net positive for humans, and I would imagine that it's a good idea all-around, but surely we don't understand all the world's ecosystems well enough to be sure that the mosquito plays no necessary role anywhere.

[–]BitchinTechnology 7 points8 points ago

Not true. It is true that we cannot find something that would be hurt by taking them out of nature but every scientist admits it would probably not be a good idea. We don't know everything

[–]hexydes 1 point2 points ago

I'm willing to take that risk.

[–]BitchinTechnology 0 points1 point ago

Why because you get a bump that scratches for a few hours? At risk of changing the environment?

[–]Houshalter 0 points1 point ago

Or die of deadly diseases that they carry. There is no environmental factor that would be significantly affected by removing mosquitoes. We do unthinkable amounts of damage to the environment in other ways, even if this did do something bad, it would be a drop in the ocean of things we have changed.

[–]BitchinTechnology 0 points1 point ago

we have no clue what the environmental factor would be. we do not think their is one, in fact most scientists think their would be none but even those scientists are smart enough to know we don't know everything and it is not worth the risk. those disases are better treated with simple vaccines

[–]Houshalter 0 points1 point ago

It's not like we have a choice anyways, but if we really could eliminate mosquitoes I think we should. The slight chance of a negative environmental affect is worth human convenience sometimes.

[–]BitchinTechnology 0 points1 point ago

we have no clue what would happen, we THINK nothing bad but we have no clue. any resources spent on killing them all you might as well spend on vaccines or nets or candles by your hut or whatever. the ecosystem is tricky

[–]ShadowRam 2 points3 points ago

What would Bats eat?

[–]IceOnFire97 1 point2 points ago

There are multiple types of bats that eat multiple types of food, if you are talking about insect eating bats then there are many other types of flying insects besides just mosquitoes.

[–]Anzai 0 points1 point ago

I wouldn't suggest we risk that.

[–]BitchinTechnology 0 points1 point ago

If we wanted that to be the case it would be the case

[–]synthaxx 12 points13 points ago

It's really astonishing how accurate a lot of these are.

[–]ac3raven 0 points1 point ago

There are serious futurists and then there are the Pop magazine futurists.

[–]r3vOG 11 points12 points ago

they really got a few things right. they did a pretty decent job. even if they are slightly off. flying fortress throwing thunderbolts? ehh... not really. but we do have the ac-130 gunship.

edit BURN THE MOSQUITOES!

[–]johnlukepicard 0 points1 point ago

Mosquitos don't actually completely replace anything. They could all be killed off with very little ecological consequence.

[–]r3vOG 0 points1 point ago

did some quick research, you appear to be correct!

[–]nalydtnuc 3 points4 points ago

yeah but thats what we said about the wolves

[–]alexander_karas 11 points12 points ago

A university education will be free to every man and woman.

Haha, nice try.

Interesting that this predicts a sort of analogue to the Internet, though (except in the form of telephones and telegraphs). Also, no flying cars. They're too impractical.

[–]NotADamsel 2 points3 points ago

What's funny, is that this is true... in other countries. In Brazil, for instance, the federal and state universities are all free.

[–]alexander_karas 0 points1 point ago

I know it's true in other countries, but not in mine. On the other hand I can get government loans, which is helpful but not sufficient for everything.

[–]NotADamsel 0 points1 point ago

I ask get fed loans. I consider my education with them to be effectively "free", because when you consider the difference in lifetime earnings between an educated man and a non-educated man, the number well surpasses what I'll be repaying, especially if I do it within a few years of graduation.

[–]alexander_karas 0 points1 point ago

How much is tuition?

Sorry, could you explain how higher education works in your country? Is it paid through taxes and tuition costs are free, or do you only get loans from the government? In some European countries it's completely free as long as you can pass an aptitude test first to get admitted.

[–]NotADamsel 0 points1 point ago

I am an American, going to school in Alaska paying in-state tuition ($165 per credit hour) at UAA. My loans are... sufficient, even though the cost of living is kinda high.

In Brazil, where my Fiancé went to school, it works like in those European countries. For the Federal and State universities, you pass a test to enter, and if you succeed then you study for free. The flip, however, is that lower education (K through 12) is largely private (public schools are shit), and the parents who can afford the best private schools for their children have kids who get into public universities with the highest frequency. Of course, a highly motivated kid from a public school can still get in, it just takes more dedication. My fiancé went to a middle-of-the-road private school (quality-wise about the same as a suburban public school in the USA), and tested in to the accounting program at the federal university. She decided that she didn't like it, and tested into the State U's English program. It was a step down (Fed is better then State by a long shot), but still a decent one given her altitudes. That's another difference between here and there- here, you begin attending a school and select your major after a time. There, you select a major while still in middle-school, and study to pass the right tests to get in to your desired program. The brother of my host dad (I was an exchange student in '06-07) almost didn't become a doctor, because he changed his focus a year before the tests at the end of high-school to medicine, and thus had to seriously cram six years of biology, psychology, and other subjects that he didn't study under his old focus. Keep in mind that high-school studies are much more involved in Brazil then in the US. A bachelors-holder in the US will have roughy the same education as one from Brazil, the speed at which the information enters the head is just more linear in Brazil and more accelerated in the college years in the US (as a graph the US's line would be similar in shape to this world-population graph if students entered college around 1950, graduated in 2050, and the Y was "Percentage x10 of knowledge required for Bachelor's degree", while Brazil's would be a straight line from beginning to end.) I kinda prefer the US's way because more knowledge enters the head as an adult and you're not stressing children out about the rest of their lives, but Brazilians are just as competent, so who knows.

[–]alexander_karas 0 points1 point ago

You're from Alaska, right? I can't see anyone moving there just to go to school, no offense.

It sounds like Brazil's education system has its pluses and minuses. To me making people choose their university major in middle school is lunacy, not to mention most lower education being private in one of the most unequal countries in the world. But if it produces the same results and works for them, I guess it's alright.

[–]evildeliverance 0 points1 point ago

I disagree that he missed the mark with this one. Our Modern highschools are more analogous to the universities of the early 1900s than they are to public funded schools of the time.

[–]Maldais 6 points7 points ago

It always seems like we're fairly able to accurately predict technology (most of what's listed here we either have, or is possible even if impractical) but social predictions are way off. Something to keep in mind when we think about the future, we have a good idea what's possible, but not necessarily what will actually happen and how society will react to it.

[–]Tycolosis 1 point2 points ago

The other thing to keep in mind is think about the thing that's going to change NOT the tech behind it. So in 50 years people will be able to just think about the information they want. could be implants could be glasses could be a phone of sorts the tech does not matter much. And then you add in the social part :) people can do this but do not for this or that reason.

[–]A_Light_Spark 13 points14 points ago

Everyone will walk ten miles... on their farmville/sims characters.

[–]johnlukepicard 38 points39 points ago

I said it before and I'll say it again. I don't believe this was written 100 years ago.

Old age was not at 35 in 1901 and a healthy person could easily live to be 70. Ten miles was not a great distance to walk. These claims ring of the misinformed cultural chivalry of the 1980s.

The earliest reference on the internet refers to only part of this article and this image arrived on the internet some time around 1990. All images are the same copy. And Adam Boklage at http://www.lhj.com/style/covers/predictions-for-the-year-2000/ has more information:

Has anyone at LHJ actually pulled a copy of the Dec. 1900 issue from the archives to verify that this article really exists? I think that it is a hoax It was first created in 2007. See http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2007-11-29-n35.html for the earliest version. You will notice that EVERY single copy of the article that you can find online has the same errant marks on the page. (The squiggle above “Oranges will Grow in Philadelphia; the semi-circular mark in the last sentence, under “Few Drugs will be Swallowed”.) This means that every image has been made from the same original source copy. No one has independently obtained a copy of the Dec. 1900 LHJ to verify the existence of this article. Additionally, if you look at actual copies of LHJ from 1900 and 1901 (search on ebay, and look at the screen shots that are posted there), you will notice that LHJ never printed “Ladies’ Home Journal” or the page number in the top banner on pages on which articles began. They only did this on subsequent pages of articles. On pages on which articles began, they printed the page numbers at the bottom, in the footer of the page. I can also find no article title that was not centered on the page. Stylistically, they did not offset article titles the way this one is done. Finally, the use of the dieresis (the umlaut looking double dot) above the ‘e’ in “Aërial” is historically inaccurate. While it looks quite antiquated — much like seeing the old spelling of coöperate or coördinate — it is bogus, like Häagen-Dazs or Mötley Crüe. In true historical usage, the dieresis was used to note the distinct pronunciation of the second vowel in a series, rather than as a diphthong, or to note that an otherwise silent ‘e’ was to be actually pronounced, such as in Emily Brontë. The ‘ae’ in aerial is, and always has been a diphthong. In fact it was originally written as ‘æ’. So, while ‘ærial’ might possibly been seen in 1900, ‘aërial’ would never have been use. I wonder if you weren't seriously pünked!

EDIT:

strong proof has been posted that the article was not a hoax

[–]craigiest 15 points16 points ago

I have pulled the article directly from ProQuest American Periodicals Series Online database. It's behind a pay wall, but you can probably access it through your local public library. It would have to be a pretty elaborate hoax to get uploaded to a scholarly database. And having read quite a few such prediction articles from that era, I have to say that it seems completely on line with the time.

[–]craigiest 16 points17 points ago

Here's the copy I pulled from ProQuest in 2009: http://www.pdfhost.net/index.php?Action=Download&File=aa0265411cfa1cd29819bd0bad0d53f7 It doesn't have the errant marks mentioned by Mr. Boklage. It's also a much higher resolution PDF.

[–]ac3raven 2 points3 points ago

misinformed cultural chivalry of the 1980s

This particular sentence fascinated me. Can you explain what you mean by this?

[–]johnlukepicard 0 points1 point ago

It feels good to say "my culture is better than X culture" whether you're comparing it to folks overseas or a hundred years ago. It leads to bias. Certain mild misunderstandings existed in the 1980s such as the idea that people used to be much more sickly than today.

[–]craigiest 2 points3 points ago

Although there isn't an online copy, it appears that the article was reprinted on page 8 of The Futurist in Oct 1982, with commentary by a couple of Indiana University professors. http://bit.ly/12wGz2X .

[–]kyleko 6 points7 points ago

Life expectancy for men in the USA in 1900 was 46. I don't think you could call living to 70 "easy" back then. Unless living to 105 is easy now.

[–]RadioactiveSamurai[S] 2 points3 points ago

Remember, life expectancy is heavily skewed by much greater infant mortality rates. If you made it through infancy, I bet the odds were pretty good you could live until you were 70.

[–]Louiecat 0 points1 point ago

Life expectancy rates were highly skewed by the countless infants that regularly died? Yeah... they should have factored that out of the equation, right..

[–]anarchisto 1 point2 points ago

In 1900, if you reached the age of 10, you should have expected to live to reach the age of 60. see this table

[–]craigiest 2 points3 points ago

I do appreciate the skepticism. It is good to make sure things really are as they seem.

[–]craigiest 1 point2 points ago

OK, had some spare time to obsessively stop by the library to get them to pull this out of the basement. You can tell Adam Boklage that someone HAS now "independently obtained a copy of the Dec. 1900 LHJ to verify the existence of the article" and that "actual copies of the LHJ for 1900 and 1901" DID print "'Ladies' Home Journal' [and] the page number in the top banner on pages on which articles begin." They did put a diaresis over the 'e' in "Aërial" as well.

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[–]johnlukepicard 1 point2 points ago

The truth hurts but repeating a lie hurts more.

[–]craigiest 2 points3 points ago

Indeed. The thing is, it's a lie that this is a hoax

[–]nalydtnuc 2 points3 points ago

but those two people just disproved your claim...

[–]johnlukepicard -2 points-1 points ago

Not quite but they she dealt it a hard blow.

[–]nalydtnuc 3 points4 points ago

not they showed scholarly articles that actually mean something besides someone just randomly speculating

[–]johnlukepicard -3 points-2 points ago

...which dealt a hard blow to but did not entirely disprove my claim.

EDIT: even stronger proof has been posted. I'm compelled to withdraw my claim.

[–]eliminate1337 4 points5 points ago

To England in two days? We can do it in 12 hours! And we've got planes going 10 miles a minute.

[–]Jackpot777 2 points3 points ago

Philly to Heathrow in 8 hours. Leave at 8pm Eastern, land all tired at 9am Greenwich Mean Time the next morning.

[–]eliminate1337 0 points1 point ago

I forgot that from the east coast if shorter. I just flew Pairs-Los Angeles and that was 12 hours.

[–]NineteenthJester 4 points5 points ago

Fascinating how everyone was so fascinated with pneumatic tubes in the past.

I remember reading an old National Geographic issue from 1969 with predictions for the future. One prediction was that in cities, everyone would get to ride in those small pneumatic-tube cars that would take them anywhere (think Logan's Run). I saw a lot of inspirations for DC's Metro there, but the question is still there:

When did we stop being so obsessed with pneumatic tubes?

[–]GingerSnap01010 2 points3 points ago

Probably once we realized they would keep getting clogged

[–]RecordHigh 0 points1 point ago

When documents and other data could be effectively transmitted and stored electronically-e.g., transmitted via fax, computer networks, and then the Internet, and stored in databases from which they could be retrieved and modified as needed.

[–]Dymero 1 point2 points ago

We didn't stop. Not all of us, anyway. There are a few articles out just recently about a pneumatic tube idea from Elon Musk that would get someone from NYC to LA in about a half hour. Here's one of them.

[–]psYberspRe4DdThe Zeitgeist Movement: a new system & real solutions 2 points3 points ago

For this there is /r/RetroFuturism

[–]johnlukepicard 2 points3 points ago

this is an xpost from there

[–]psYberspRe4DdThe Zeitgeist Movement: a new system & real solutions 1 point2 points ago

Yes actually I posted it there and Futurology isn't for such things as there is this sub of our network dedicated to it. It won't be deleted though but future posts like this will get flair saying that it should go there.

[–]Snax63 6 points7 points ago

Wireless telephones, nailed it. Free university? Sigh... not in America, land of the corporation, home of the consumer.

[–]NotADamsel -2 points-1 points ago

University can be free for needy students. Community college courses can be taken with a Pell grant, and if you stay at it long enough you'll get your degree.

[–]Snax63 0 points1 point ago

Actually, it really can't be free for needy students. Pell grants only go so far, the rest is covered by loans. If you're really poor, you can't even get those loans. It's only been very recently that the government has done anything to make it easier to access the funding for the poor to attend 4 year schools. It's actually a joke compared to every other "first world" country.

[–]wally_moot 2 points3 points ago

My favorite line: "A man or a woman unable to walk ten miles at a stretch will be regarded as a weakling."

[–]Infini-Bus 0 points1 point ago

I guess I better start jogging more often.

[–]IceOnFire97 1 point2 points ago

lol, automobile wagons

[–]qxcvr 0 points1 point ago

Amazingly accurate.

[–]Puffy_Ghost 0 points1 point ago

It's kind of shocking how accurate some of this shit is :\

[–]Tycolosis 3 points4 points ago

If you made 20 gusses at the future I bet one or 2 would come really close.

[–]Puffy_Ghost 1 point2 points ago

except 9 of his are pretty close :P

[–]sps26 1 point2 points ago

Could have really used that free national education program. And no mosquitoes or flies? If only it were so

[–]UbiDubiumIbiLibertas 1 point2 points ago

Free University for all

At first I felt bad reading that, but then I remembered how much free education is available online. Given a decade or two, a university level education will essentially be free.

[–]Anzai 2 points3 points ago

I have that level of education from private study. Unfortunately, no employer recognises 'I spend a lot of time on the internet', so it doesn't help me in terms of seeking a job which is one of the main reasons to go to university.

[–]NotADamsel 0 points1 point ago

Given the amount of supplementary course material being put up by professors, you can probably study any subject to the master's level if your Google-fu is up to it. Now, proving that you know these things... well, that's what universities that hand out degrees are good at.

[–]Lokepi 0 points1 point ago

There are a lot of countries in which University actually is free, such as most european countries.

[–]BJKWhite 1 point2 points ago

"Then may the pansy be given the perfume of the violet."

That's the cutest future prediction I've ever seen.

[–]masshole4life 0 points1 point ago

few drugs will be swallowed

that's where i lost it. a lot of the stuff was dead on, but the wishful thinking and naive optimism was really something. the education bit was both depressing and scary. no, we don't give free eyeglasses very much and we don't do much to let poor kids see the world, but at least we don't teach housekeeping.

[–]vfxDan -1 points0 points ago

They will be abandoned because unnecessary.

I think you accidentally a word.

[–]beerob81 0 points1 point ago

photographs will be telegraphed instantly - i.e. the internet

[–]Arkalyte 0 points1 point ago

I like the reason for getting rid of C, X and Q: ...because unnecessary.