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[–]Venerac 85 points86 points ago

It's almost as if he was making a joke!

[–]newtonp01[!] 8 points9 points ago

[–]kernunnos77 52 points53 points ago

And they should stop putting the deer crossing signs in such busy sections of road. Why don't they just move the deer crossings to places where there isn't as much traffic?

[–]Rusork 3 points4 points ago

I heard they use actual animals for the zebra passes down there in Africa. Such barbarians

[–]djargyle -2 points-1 points ago

did you hear that radio clip from North Dakota too? lol

[–]KosherBeefCake 25 points26 points ago

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[–]gargant 34 points35 points ago

Anyone seeking more info might also check here:

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[–]Stoet 3 points4 points ago

This fucking picture is so old, I read about this in a newspaper. I DON'T EVEN READ NEWSPAPERS ANYMORE, it's that old.

[–]nbshark 2 points3 points ago

I'm seeing a lot of reposts today... This being one of 'em. Keep up doing the good work. We want OC.

[–]TheCannon 19 points20 points ago

How much do you want to bet that was mockingly posted by a hunter?

[–]stanfan114 0 points1 point ago

Totally a false flag.

[–]that_guy906 7 points8 points ago

This is a joke.

SOURCE: Heard it 25 years ago.

[–]dogmascion 31 points32 points ago

Given all of the absurd animal cruelty that happens in the food industry, the argument can be made that hunting is far more humane. One food source goes through a lifetime of suffering and pain, the other lives in its natural environment and goes through maybe one instant of pain, given the skill of the hunter. Just something to consider.

[–]scumbag-reddit 30 points31 points ago

I don't even think it's an argument at all, nor can you make one out of it. People against hunting are just very uneducated and live in their own little world.

[–]Leifanator 2 points3 points ago

Story time!

Back in ol' Nebraska when I was a little fella. I was in a youth group that was primarily a hunting program where the primary sport was deer hunting. There were a lot of requirements and safety checks to get into this as we were handling dangerous weapons and were out in the middle of no where most times.

Skip to about the end of bow season, I'm sitting in a tree stand in the forested part of the land fill out on the edge of Lincoln. I haven't managed to get a deer at all this season, so I'm allowed to shoot either a doe or buck. So a doe walks by, I line up my shot, and take it.

I hit it square in the heart and it stumbled around and fell over. I sat there and watched the animal struggle for a good five minutes before it stopped moving, and I assure you, those five minutes were a living nightmare for me. I'm not sure how long I sat in my stand... I lost all track of time and it wasn't until it started getting dark that I climbed down and went to find my adult supervisor and the other two young guys.

I had downed a deer before, but seeing the animal struggle like it did, I will do all that I can to avoid that situation again.

That said, I love me some deer jerky and sausages. Damn good stuff.

[–]Esparno 0 points1 point ago

That's why you walk up and put it out of its misery. Hopefully you learned from that.

[–]Hallc 1 point2 points ago

I am against hunting and I wouldn't consider myself uneducated however the hunting I am against is the fox hunting that was banned in the UK.

[–]they_see_me_nolen 13 points14 points ago

That's a very different kind of hunting. Sport hunting is not cool. In the US, there are a lot of hunters that hunt exclusively for meat. We ate a lot of fish and venison growing up that made it to the table thanks to a baited hook or a rifle, and without those food sources our quality of life would have been much lower. I think this is the kind of hunting scumbag was talking about.

[–]Noobymcnoobcake 4 points5 points ago

It was not just for sport. Fox are pests, like rats or pigeons. If a fox gets in a chicken pen it will kill all 100 of them and eat one. Hunting has never even made a dent in the fox population. There is also more foxes in the city than country now. They raid bins and create litter.

[–]they_see_me_nolen 1 point2 points ago

Interesting, TIL.

[–]myrmecophily 1 point2 points ago

You clearly have little working knowledge of fox ecology. Foxes for centuries have experienced periods of high and low prey availability. In order to survive the low prey availability periods, they have adapted a behavior known as 'caching'. When a lot of prey is available, they kill more than they need, bury it, and eat it once the prey availability declines. When a fox gets into a henhouse, it's a natural reaction to kill as much as they can. If given a chance, I bet you the fox would bury most if not all of the chickens it killed. Link to a blurb about caching:

http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/3800813?uid=3739976&uid=2&uid=4&uid=3739256&sid=21101328211453

You say there are more foxes in the city than the country now--have you considered that there is also more city than country now? Human population growth is increasing so rapidly that we hardly know how to describe it. Human population growth has exceeded exponential growth curves. This kind of growth puts huge demands on local ecosystems. Look at the anthropogenic impacts on fox home ranges: we've fragmented the landscape with roads and development to the point that it's difficult for foxes to avoid humans. Is is so surprising that they've realized how easy it is to find food near humans, when we throw so much away?!

I'm not saying what I've presented here is "right", but I'm not saying you are either. I just want to make it clear that there is another side to this, and gaining a little perspective never hurts.

[–]scumbag-reddit 4 points5 points ago

I sorta meant hunting for sustainability, maybe should have mentioned that. Nobody's going to go around eating foxes that they shot.

[–]regencyfishfinger 1 point2 points ago

The difference, which applies in both the UK and USA, is between hunting for food and hunting for 'sport'.

[–]GophaKyorselv 0 points1 point ago

Hunting for sport is also humane. Where once native americans and other natural predators culled the populations into sustainable numbers, there are now oft-chided hunters who have a hard time doing it.

The exception of course is threatened / endangered species.

[–]iamagainstit 0 points1 point ago

that is kinda the point

[–]BurntTheToast 2 points3 points ago

And when I hunt (unlike others) I use every part of the animal. Image shoes and blankets from the skins, rope and shoelaces from the tendons, eat the meat feed the meat that I don't want to eat to my dogs, make stupid shit from the bones (like doorknobs) and use the rest (antlers if present) for decoration and sale. It makes hunting more of a lifestyle than a hobby or sport.

[–]jelly_filled[S] -5 points-4 points ago

Couldn't have said it better

Edit: alright...

[–]447u 6 points7 points ago

[–]Asiansensationz 4 points5 points ago

I only eat organic Doritos where they harvest it from Doritos trees without any artificial fertilizer or pesticides.

[–]feedme-your-downvote 4 points5 points ago

As a vegetarian, I encourage more people to get their meat from hunting. It's healthier, more humane, and doesn't support factory farming.

[–]clickwhistle 0 points1 point ago

And fat people can't do it easily.

[–]weasleeasle 1 point2 points ago

Only problem is the environment can't support large scale hunting. If everyone did that the tastiest animals would be extinct very quickly.

[–]Pyr0monk3y -1 points0 points ago

That's why the government has bag limits on most animals. For example you can only take home 3 grey squirrels a day here in NC and only 1 fox squirrel per day. Some game even has a season limit. I think you can only shoot 6 fox squirrels per season but don't quote me on that number.

These bag limits change all the time and I'm sure they would be adjusted accordingly. Also if hunting was large scale I think there would be a lot more hunting resorts and etc. A lot of south georga's farmland is hunting plantations that are only used 2 or 3 weekends of the year. I think there's plenty of meat to go around.

[–]isofat 1 point2 points ago

Bag limits would never be enough if every human being in the US hunted for their own meat.

[–]MeloJelo 0 points1 point ago

Unless we all just started hunting the most dangerous game . . . or if we started hunting ants--there are lots of ants.

[–]Pyr0monk3y 0 points1 point ago

There's a lot of game animals. I eat mostly squirrel and crow which are considered pest and health hazards when overpopulated. I've shot 120 or so squirrels out of my 100 acre area of woods over the past 3 years and they are still coming to my birdfeeder every freaking morning and scaring away the cardinals. You'd be amazed how well animals can adapt their mating habits to incresed threat from predators. Between me and the coyote's around here, small game animals stay pretty busy if you know what I mean.

Between government regs and animals adapting to their sircumstances I think large scale hunting would not be too bad. If EVERYONE hunted every day than perhaps we would have some issues but lets be honest, that will never happen. Large scale hunting on the other hand is probably a good thing for society.

It seems like people just aren't aware of what kind of work goes into putting food on the table these days. When you hunt it, clean it and cook it the meal means a lot more than if you had just bought it at the grocery store.

[–]fe3o4 1 point2 points ago

animals should be extinct, then people couldn't use them for fur!

[–]xLovex98 7 points8 points ago

As a vegetarian, this makes me worry about all the other "vegetarians" out there. A lot of people don't get that turkey is meat. And that fish is meat. "I'm a vegetarian, but I still eat chicken"-- then, ma'am, you are not a vegetarian.

[–]kernunnos77 10 points11 points ago

I'm a lacto-ovo-pesco-bovo-pollo-porko vegetarian :)

[–]xLovex98 2 points3 points ago

Smart.

[–]Vidyogamasta 3 points4 points ago

"I don't eat mammalian meat" is what describes these people. Is there a word for that?

[–]elephantangelchild 2 points3 points ago

I'm on Team Mammal. So I don't eat mammals. Root, root, root for the home team and all that. So, "Team Mammal" is my proposition for this term.

[–]WittyRemarkHere 5 points6 points ago

Stupid

[–]elephantangelchild 6 points7 points ago

Why is not eating mammals stupid?

[–]I_Shat_In_Your_Pants 0 points1 point ago

Any criteria that would give mammals sentience or moral consideration could easily be applied to non-mammals.

[–]elephantangelchild 3 points4 points ago

So? Everyone draws a line for some personal reason. Where that line is drawn is mostly a matter of personal preference.

"jeez, mammals seem smarter than fish and fowl. I think I won't eat mammals, besides, I am a mammal and my beloved dog/cat is a mammal. B12, protein, blood type, convenience, etc. etc."

Stupid doesn't really have much to do with it. People can recognize logic in a position and still reject it as a way to live their life, it doesn't make them stupid.

[–]I_Shat_In_Your_Pants -1 points0 points ago

jeez, mammals seem smarter than fish and fowl. I think I won't eat mammals, besides, I am a mammal and my beloved dog/cat is a mammal. B12, protein, blood type, convenience, etc. etc

That statement is either stupid or ignorant, because some fish and fowl are demonstrably smarter than mammals (and you've explicitly listed intelligence as the criteria for what not to eat). There is no logic in that position.

I'm gonna go ahead and guess you aren't overly familiar with animal rights or vegetarian philosophy or literature. Is that correct?

[–]elephantangelchild 1 point2 points ago

Super familiar with all of it. Vegetarian for 17 years, moral reasons all the way. Been eating fish for a year, and just started eating chicken. That makes me Team Mammal.

Your insistence on using "logic" to judge dietary decisions is a bad idea. It doesn't add up, and its not how most people "choose" their diet. There is no "stupid" or "smart" in this debate, it is all a simple matter of personal choice, based on a variety of factors, most of which boil down to, "this makes me feel the best".

But out of curiosity, what fish and fowl are demonstrably smarter than mammals?

[–]deadFishFood 1 point2 points ago

Crows are considered to be highly intelligent animals. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crow#Intelligence Obviously, not smarter than all mammals (humans), but smarter than some of them.

[–]elephantangelchild 1 point2 points ago

Awesome, I love crows! No four and 20 blackbird pies for me then! Ha! Not that I would eat that anyways, nor would anyone else but the most dedicated carnivores, so it is only tangentially related to the conversation at hand... But, cool info is cool info, thanks for the link.

[–]I_Shat_In_Your_Pants 1 point2 points ago

Some birds have self awareness, other use tools. I'd submit the crow as a demonstrably intelligent bird, as they use tools (famously cracking nuts at stoplights). I can't name any fish off the top of my head, but I would also submit cephalopods as being smarter than many mammals (cheating, I know).

I'd argue that (in general) tool use shows an animal to be smarter than animals that can't use tools, so birds and cephalopods would rank higher than cows and sheep. Obviously there are grey areas here, but thats kind of my point - you can't just say that "mammals are smart, birds are dumb."

Your insistence on using "logic" to judge dietary decisions is a bad idea

I've been veggie for about as long as you, and I don't understand this. You draw a line in the sand, some things are okay to eat and others aren't. If you aren't logically approaching this choice, what is the point?

Some things are sentient and deserving of moral consideration. Others aren't. What criteria do you use to judge that eating chicken is okay, while beef isn't?

[–]elephantangelchild 0 points1 point ago

Every part of our diet is deserving of moral consideration. Even vegetables. Unless you grow your own food, it is nearly impossible to know what kind of impact you are having on the world when you choose a certain type of food product at market/grocer/restaurant.

Eating chicken is ok, because I choose to eat it. I have made this decision: I am allowed to eat chicken and not be consumed with guilt because of it. I know its wrong, and I have chosen not to let that weigh on me. The guilt I would feel from eating a mammal (or even a duck) is a higher threshold than I am willing to breach at this time in my life.

If you were to say to me, "I am morally superior to you, because I choose not to eat chicken." I would agree with you. You are. Vegans were morally superior to me, when I was an ovo-lacto veg. That's fine, we all have moral failings in some way or another.

There is always a compromise between Morally-Correct and Convenient-Living. Where that line is drawn is a fluid, personal thing. It's not a compromise between Smart and Stupid. That doesn't make sense as a frame work to tackle this issue. Moral failings do not make a person stupid.

[–]isofat 0 points1 point ago

Some people are just more connected with some types of animals for whatever reason. Many people in the US believe that eating cats and dogs is wrong but they also would not be able to give a reason(maybe some would say because they are pets, then how about stray cats and dogs?).

[–]I_Shat_In_Your_Pants 0 points1 point ago

Yes, and I would say that belief is arbitrary, illogical and defies reason.

Or to put it more succinctly: Stupid.

[–]victordavion 2 points3 points ago

Would you eat meat if it were grown without a nervous system?

[–]thejoshu 2 points3 points ago

Honestly? Soon as we start growing safe, viable meat in the lab, sign me up. Certainly seems preferable to factory farming, to me. Problem is, my area is... short on alternatives.

[–]I_Shat_In_Your_Pants 1 point2 points ago

The usual reasons for vegetarianism are: Ethical/Moral, Environmental, Economic and Health.

Assuming lab-raised non-sentient meat could be raised to those standards, I think most veggies would eat it.

[–]xLovex98 -1 points0 points ago

I have been confronted with this question multiple times. The reason I am vegetarian, besides the fact that I am an animal rights activist, is that I personally do not like the taste of meat. I never really have. So when I decided that I was going to be a vegetarian (in my cast a lacto-vegetarian) it wasn't hard for me at all to make the transition. So no, I wouldn't eat meat if it came from it's own nervous system.

[–]BoojiBoy 0 points1 point ago

As a vegetarian of ~15 years, I would have no problems with eating it. Unless it just tastes nasty or something.

[–]victordavion 0 points1 point ago

I'm actually pleasantly surprised by these answers. Very rational decisions. I actually don't like the taste of a lot of meat, but because of the stigma of the label I've never been "vegetarian" since I don't care about animal rights and I do have the occasional meat product ( and if you count fish as meat like I do then I eat meat all the time ).

I used to hate chicken. It turns out, wherever I went for chicken or whenever it was made at home as a kid it just wasn't made right. I've had some damn good chicken. I've never had a good steak and believe them to not exist. I have TMJ so eating meat is difficult to begin with, but beef is just so damn chewy. Smoked meats and slow cooked ribs that pretty much melt in your mouth are delicious.

Smoked salmon is my favorite food of all time but I'll eat any fish so long as you don't dry it out. Fish is easy to fuck up.

Anyway, my last point I guess is that about a decade ago when I was in college I had a philosophy class and somehow the class discussion went into vegetarianism. The professor was actually a vegan, I think. Anyway, being the science geek I am, I brought up the theoretical ( now non-theoretical real expensive science ) of the cloning of meat in a way that doesn't produce a nervous system ( and therefore isn't alive and therefore impossible to be cruel to ). Basically a meat farm. He was against it and so was most of the class ( because he tried to make a fool out of me ). So ever since then I had always thought this is how vegetarians and vegans actually thought. Glad to know I'm wrong and they were just nutjobs.

[–]fe3o4 -1 points0 points ago

wait! if chickens are vegetarian, why isn't chicken vegetarian too ?

[–]variaknight 0 points1 point ago

As a pescetarian, the distinction kinda irritates me. If I call myself a pescetarian, most people have no idea what I'm talking about. If I say I'm a vegetarian, but I eat fish, real vegetarians get uppity.

[–]xLovex98 0 points1 point ago

I was first a pescetarian before I became a vegetarian and I too, had to explain it over and over again.

[–]MacroPhallus 0 points1 point ago

We call them beady-eye vegetarians. If it doesn't have eyes that you can empathize with, it's ok to eat.

[–]clickwhistle 0 points1 point ago

Well I'm a semi-vegetarian. I only eat vegetarian animals, not carnivorous ones. Except for bacon. Tasty tasty bacon. And fish. Yeah fish.

[–]jheald1 2 points3 points ago

i only hope that is intentional irony.

[–]pyrrhios 2 points3 points ago

While I'm sure there are some people that are this egregiously ignorant, this has appeared in too many newspapers to be anything more than a hoax on the public psyche, with a very specific agenda.

[–]MinuteMan63 2 points3 points ago

The stupid...it hurts

[–]ashtray_nuke 2 points3 points ago

this might not be a joke as sad as that is. as a person who derives all of their eat from hunting (within state limits of course) and raising my own animals, i get flak like this all the time. Or my favorite that i get one version of or another all the time: "What kind of monster do you have to be to look an animal in the eyes and murder it? I'll just get my meat from the grocer." To which i normally respond "I prefer not to have other people do my dirty work."

[–]Jdog556 0 points1 point ago

Honestly if I came upon the person who wrote this in public and was able to identify them with this I would ask them simply, "Do you have any idea, any idea at all how incredibly stupid you are?"

[–]Hallc 0 points1 point ago

How did you know it wasn't written as satire?

[–]dtouger 1 point2 points ago

Either they are talking about tofu or they are retarded, take your pick.

[–]Surfacetovolume 2 points3 points ago

No, it could be both. Especially if they're calling tofu "meat."

[–]tnargsnave 0 points1 point ago

Tofu =/= Meat.

[–]bernie_lomax8 1 point2 points ago

i wish i could downvote whoever said that

[–]ibaconatmidnight 0 points1 point ago

It's funny because it's true.

[–]ahuiz22 1 point2 points ago

He went full retard, NEVER go full retard

[–]nacomania 0 points1 point ago

For real plus when you go out and kill your own food you know it's what you went out and got, the "mystery" of meat from the store is scary

[–]SirRosie 0 points1 point ago

He's clearly pointing out the hypocrisy of people who are against hunting but eat meat.

People these days don't get jokes apparently.

[–]13Gracie14 0 points1 point ago

Yes, because everyone knows when you're killed no harm is done to you

[–]Bitter_Idealist 0 points1 point ago

"These days?" This is as old as dirt, son.

[–]CmdrTroll 0 points1 point ago

I'd wager a majority of hunters enjoy shooting guns at animals enough that they'd continue to do it if identical meat was made in a lab and handed out for free.

I don't have a problem with hunting, I just think they glorify what they're doing.

[–]orbital1337 0 points1 point ago

This is the kind of image that you're being sent by your grandma...

[–]D14BL0 1 point2 points ago

Literally older than the internet.

[–]issicus 0 points1 point ago

but is it kosher ?

[–]Lythysis 1 point2 points ago

People these days, from several years ago.

[–]Baron_Von_Badass 0 points1 point ago

I know! People these days... Who even reads newspapers any more? I get all of my news from the internet, where everything is true and we aren't killing trees, which are a finite resource that can NEVER be replanted.

[–]thecoolaccountant 0 points1 point ago

Why is it that whenever someone posts a newspaper picture it's always circled AND highlighted!?

[–]makbulletproof 0 points1 point ago

Normally, I'm against murder. But, for people this stupid something might have to be done.

[–]Coroare 0 points1 point ago

I'm almost positive this was recycled in the Viz letters

[–]subtledoubt 1 point2 points ago

I assume that the original statement is ironic. However. I raise chickens and goats, for eggs, milk, and meat. And I cannot count the number of times I've had someone recoil in horror when they learn I slaughter my own animals. Most of the time, I patiently explain the abomination that is the lives of industrially raised/slaughtered animals. Most people accept that my animals are downright spoiled, that they have an amazing quality of life, and that what I am doing is right, but they still say that they could never slaughter an animal to eat themselves. So I end up converting a handful of people over to only buying non-industrially raised meat, which is great. But the remainder of them view me as some kind of barbarian, and honestly don't understand why I wouldn't rather buy meat from the store, as if it's grown on some miraculous meat-tree. Can't stomach an animal dying to provide you with a meal? Fine. Become a vegetarian. But don't blindly let that animal be tortured its entire life, and then tortured to death, and claim that your way is somehow more morally correct.

I would rather have packages of meat in my freezer, labeled with the name of the animal that is feeding me, so I can offer up a hymn of gratitude to its life, then blindly shovel carcasses that never knew a good life into my mouth.

[–]Radishing 0 points1 point ago

And those same damn people will cut down millions of trees and then complain about their low-ply TP.

Fuckin' murderers...

[–]subtledoubt 0 points1 point ago

Toilet paper is one of the only disposable items I purchase. All other disposable items I've replaced with reusable ones. But, damn, when the Zapocalypse comes, I will miss me some TP.

[–]Radishing 0 points1 point ago

Actually, that was just an extreme case I was mentioning... I don't actually expect anyone to give up TP. Hell, you couldn't convince me to do that. The real problem is the avoidable stuff, like printing a 10-page memo 15 times so that you can inform all your staff as opposed to just emailing it.

AKA fucking everything in college

[–]subtledoubt 0 points1 point ago

I actually know people who have given up TP, and hold my efforts as, well, less than theirs.

[–]funkshun 1 point2 points ago

It was only funny the first time, the Nth time not so much.

[–]zarthonia 0 points1 point ago

Some of the really cheap meat is more meat glue than meat :|

[–]fcwolfey 0 points1 point ago

what is satire?

[–]smudgerr 0 points1 point ago

wow this is the first time i've seen this post

[–]WastedWiFi 0 points1 point ago

I go to McDonald's for that

[–]thatrudedude 0 points1 point ago

OP got trolled by old fasioned print. Mind blown.

[–]jaggazz -2 points-1 points ago

This reminded me of the absurd PETA press release I saw this week asking publishers to hide hunting magazines from people under 18 years of age.

[–]kernunnos77 0 points1 point ago

PETA also made a Pokemon spoof game, where they falsely claimed that Ash never cared for Pikachu, and that's why he never let him out of his Pokeball.