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[–]eppursimouve 55 points56 points ago

[–]Anaphylatic 7 points8 points ago

Poor Spider-Man, needs the money to become a better super hero.

[–]xodus112 0 points1 point ago

Yup. Freelance photographers don't make jack.

[–]Ceejae -1 points0 points ago

At least he's actually got super powers. Not like the battard or ironfag.

[–]schattenteufel 133 points134 points ago

Not money. Brains.

[–]TimeKillerSP 94 points95 points ago

developed by the best education money can buy.

[–]JOcean13 43 points44 points ago

Bruces father had money to allow Bruces intellect to foster. Imagine if his parent's weren't rich and they were murdered. How would he provide for himself at a grand scale like that? How would he meet Lucius Fox, who built most of his equipment?

Also, Iron Man. If his father was not a genius and learned all these technical abilities and had money, how would of Tony Stark ever known about the reactor core? Tony would never of had that kind of environment around him. He never would have had shrapnel in his chest and needed to become Iron Man.

The fact is being born into money and an intelligent, well-to-do family helped mold them into who they were. They still had to choose to sacrifice to become a hero, but if they weren't born into money, they would have most likely never had that opportunity.

[–]holynorth 6 points7 points ago

It all started somewhere. One of Starks/Waynes ancestors were one of the "smarter" ones who were able to get ahead financially.

[–]ethanlan 9 points10 points ago

I know plenty of retard rich people and ridiculously smart poor people

[–]Asks_Politely 1 point2 points ago

There are definitely ridiculously smart poor people, but unless the person is banking off of an inheritance, or were given money in another way, they're pretty smart. So it once again goes back to holy's point. At some point, someone needed to make that money.

[–]ethanlan 4 points5 points ago

...you don't need to be super-smart to get rich. sometimes ruthlessness and/or luck can make dumb people stupid rich.

[–]Asks_Politely 1 point2 points ago

Very rarely does that happen, and when it does, they usually don't stay rich for long.

Ruthlessness isn't really proving your point either. If you're overly ruthless that doesn't mean you're also smart. In a way, it could mean you're even smarter when it comes to making money.

[–]SirDerpingtonThe3rd 0 points1 point ago

Go to South Louisiana, those dumbfucktards only have money because the oil industry paid them shitpiles of money for their land.

[–]SirDerpingtonThe3rd 0 points1 point ago

The retards got lucky and were living on valuable land or some such thing and the poor smart people clearly aren't genuinely smart.

[–]C_sharp138 2 points3 points ago

All very true, but give the best iron man suit or all the fancy gadgets in the world to a cast member from the Jersey Shore and they'd just blow themselves up (if we're lucky). The money gave them opportunities, the brains is what makes them able to utilize them.

[–]JakeThePlummer 2 points3 points ago

What if Peter Parker had been forced to go to public schools?

[–]Bobknight 2 points3 points ago

Of != 'have'

[–]WBuffet 2 points3 points ago

That's what I like about Captain America. He's humble and was selected because of that !

[–]Kraftik 0 points1 point ago

He probably just grow up to be a gangster in the ghetto. He be like; "Mah moms and dad got murdered for some change. I've been through some shit mah lifes been hard and sometimes a niggas gotta do what a niggas gotta do to get paid. It's rough out here in the Ghetto." Id watch it.

[–]rjw57 0 points1 point ago

Bruces father had money to allow Bruces intellect to foster.

and

Tony would never of had...

Really, reddit? Are we not punishing this any more?

Edit: ah... yes we are.

[–]cislum 5 points6 points ago

Where did Batman go to college? Was he home schooled?

[–]TheQuickAccount 6 points7 points ago

His parents taught him, that's why he's missing the later stuff.

[–]7hou 2 points3 points ago

He went to Princeton, but left partway through. It was referenced in Batman Begins.

[–]woofer212 0 points1 point ago

there are lots of stupid ppl with lots of money. what batman had was motivation.

[–]educatedconsumer 3 points4 points ago

Yeah, cause Tony Stark could've made that suit from several trips to the city dump, and Bruce Wayne doesn't need the Batmobile when he can just rig a shopping cart to go really fast....

Fooling yourself only here.

[–]NijaSkills 2 points3 points ago

That's kind of what Stark did with the first suit...

[–]only_temporary 1 point2 points ago

The first suit was little more than a glorified Ned Kelly shield.

Just realised something... In the movies nobody ever calls him 'shellhead'. That's a shame.

[–]JOcean13 4 points5 points ago

Not really. Lucius Fox developed most of Batman's stuff, and he works for his father's corporation (Money). Plus, he has to pay for research, equipment, and facilities.

Tony Stark's father was a genius and built a corporation first. Tony was lucky enough to have a father who provided him with a nurturing, intellectual environment, surrounded by the latest technology no other child really had a chance to see. So being born into money had it's privilege. He worked hard but he's fueling the fire his father built.

[–]gmb0044 7 points8 points ago

Batman's best asset comes from his foresight and detective skills. His gadgets may not all be fully developed by him (depending on what version you read), but his ingenuity and creativity is unmatched.

[–]alclarkey 0 points1 point ago

No amount of neglect will stop someone with Stark's intellect.

[–]gameguy285 45 points46 points ago

i spent way too long waiting for the rest of the picture to load...

[–]juice_crew_all_stars 9 points10 points ago

It isn't there anymore. I cut it out.

/firstworldanarchists

[–]Vertigo666 1 point2 points ago

Is that Batman's version of Hulkbuster Armor for Superman?

[–]scorpion347 0 points1 point ago

Yup. It really didn't work very well if I recall. Just enough to get the red kryptonite.

[–]TacoSunday69 0 points1 point ago

Not exactly, It's an armor suit that greatly increases batman's strength but provides hardly any protection from superman. You can find it in the final chapter of Frank Miller's The Dark Knight Returns. Pretty good read, definitely recommend it.

[–]all_In_KhakisButJeff 7 points8 points ago

Batman > Superman

[–]derekiv 16 points17 points ago

[–]velvetreligion 6 points7 points ago

I see nothing, nothing.

[–]Ezebunz 3 points4 points ago

This is....alright with me

[–]cislum 0 points1 point ago

Wow, sperm so super he made Batman pregnant. Probably the most impressive superman feat thus far.

[–]jackcatalyst 1 point2 points ago

No,no,no,nooooooooo

[–]2muffins 0 points1 point ago

I'd rather be Superman.

[–]iamagainstit 2 points3 points ago

well both ideally.

[–]CBruce 2 points3 points ago

I've always believed that Batman possessed an unrecognized super-human willpower. It's his drive that's given him his arsenal, be it physical abilities, detective skills, gadgets...all products is his will.

[–]ApolloMagic 1 point2 points ago

Zombie, best superpower ever.

[–]EMP826 -2 points-1 points ago

I was about to say the same. Snooki has money, that by itself doesn't mean shit. It's what you do with the means available to you that makes you significant.

[–]JIMBALLS 1 point2 points ago

Snooki probably has $10 million max, while these guys are in the multi-billions. However, I wouldn't doubt that Bill Gates probably has a few super-suits lying around.

[–]Juffin -2 points-1 points ago

Braaaaaaaaiins... Braaains...

[–]empirer -2 points-1 points ago

In batmans case it was just money and being a crazy person. In Ironman it was brains and money.

[–]mattymck 2 points3 points ago

you clearly do not know anything about batman.

[–]rasputine 42 points43 points ago

But these men would have been amazing without the money, just maybe not super so young.

Tony Stark built the mark I in a cave, as it were, with a box of scraps. The money helped him prototype faster, but he was a genius.

Batman was a detective who shit-kicked his enemies. He may have had trouble getting war-zone-ready costumes, tanks and helicopters, but he would have still been thrashing bad guys like they were infants.

[–]Cannibal_Moshpit 13 points14 points ago

Not to mention that on one side you have to create a new element to fully sustain the suit, whereas the other side has deep emotional issues.

[–]ziorjen[!] 7 points8 points ago

[–]Noglues 0 points1 point ago

What in the...ooooookie then...

[–]scorpion347 0 points1 point ago

I like the part where the guy suddenly realizes he probably shouldn't risk having his duaghter so close to the crazy guy.

[–]mantal 0 points1 point ago

D E D

[–]gameguy285 8 points9 points ago

after i read box of scraps the rest of the comment was in Jeff Bridges voice

[–]servohahn 5 points6 points ago

Batman also went to super secret ninja assassin training school. I mean, that's like 90% of his abilities right there. His gadgets and stuff are cool but all the disappearing from plain sight and ultra kung fu is what really makes him able to be a hero.

[–]cody_au 6 points7 points ago

But he grew up the son of a super rich and intelligent father. Probably no expense was spared in his education and he even based his chest reactor on his father's own arc reactor work.

He didn't create himself. He's a product of nepotism and rich-person's privilege. His father, though, is a different story.

[–]rasputine 5 points6 points ago

If all you're going on is the film, you could make a half-assed point to that end, sure.

But the films aren't the only source, aren't expositional enough to support your argument very far, and still demostrate that he's brilliant.

Tony Stark is a genius. That is what his character is about.

[–]SicilianEggplant 4 points5 points ago

I think the argument is that if money weren't involved via the parents, then each might have ended up going to public school and not being able to afford college.

Hell, if the Waynes weren't so rich, Bruce would have ended up in a shitty foster home.

[–]JOcean13 1 point2 points ago

Yes, he's a genius but his father was a genius and rich. So he benefited from not having to worry about food, and had a good home and a good family. This allowed him to focus solely on learning and building great things. It's Maslow's hierarchy of needs. Without the money and resources his father provided him with, he would of not been able to focus solely on his education and would of most likely take longer to become Iron Man or maybe never at all.

[–]cbarland 4 points5 points ago

Just because someone comes from a rich family doesn't mean that they can't be credited for their success. Plenty of rich kids become failures due to their lack of talent. And plenty of successful people attribute their success to overcoming their struggles early in life with money, family or health.

[–]JOcean13 1 point2 points ago

A kid with motivation and talent born into a caring, well-to-do family has a higher chance of success than a kid with motivation and talent born into a poor, uncaring family. Bruce Wayne and Tony Stark both could have still been Batman and Iron-Man if they weren't born into rich families but the bottom line is the money helped with equipment, education, networking (Lucius Fox). Iron Man's core to become Iron Man was designed by his father.

[–]Piemonkey 2 points3 points ago

And Superman happened to be born of a completely different species. What's the point of pointing any of this out?

[–]shmed 1 point2 points ago

Of course money is a factor in this. However, there's plenty of rich people in the Marvel universe (and in our universe too). However, being rich definietely isnt a factor enough to become a super hero. Tony Stark became a super hero because yes he is rich, but mostly because he's a genius.

[–]JOcean13 3 points4 points ago

Yeah, but without the money he would have never had that choice. I know plenty of people who are smart and could build a suit and fight crime but one thing is missing. The money to provide yourself for all the equipment, suit, housing, transportation, ammunition, servers, and all the amount of coding and software engineers you would need to do to build a program like Iron-Man has with Jarvis. Shit, Apple is the richest company in the world and all they have is Siri, who isn't even close to Jarvis.

[–]OneBigBug 2 points3 points ago

That's because Apple engineers aren't Tony Stark.

Tony Stark is written in most forms of the character to have done all that himself. He's a genius on a level which does not even come close to existing in the real world. And he's not even close to the smartest character in the Marvel universe.

Hell, look at Spider-man. Still not the smartest character in the Marvel universe. He invented web fluid by himself in his aunt's house with relative ease. Dead broke all the time. I'll admit that my materials engineering is pretty weak, but I'm pretty sure inventing a material that is both super strong, and can be stored in mass quantities in your wrist, and can degrade quickly over time, and can be made from easily accessible materials in large quantity all in the time that it takes to otherwise become acclimated to having super powers requires a level of genius that just has never existed.

These fictional characters weren't just luckier than you and me, they are better than anyone on the real earth has ever been. On what would have to be a genetic level. A significant one. Not just experience and education.

[–]shmed 1 point2 points ago

So you just proved that even though Apple is the richest company in the world (probably richer than Tony Stark as an individual), couldnt even come close to what Tony Stark did. So since it's not the money they are lacking, I guess its probably the second factor, Tony's genius.

[–]cody_au 1 point2 points ago

I am going solely on the movies.

IMHO the genius characters are the bad guys who grew up dirt poor and somehow manage to almost destroy Iron Man with the strength of their resolve alone. Like the whip guy in Iron Man 2.

[–]rasputine 0 points1 point ago

Whiplash didn't grow up poor.

[–]skytro 0 points1 point ago

And money bought him the education needed to know this stuff

[–]dahappybanana 14 points15 points ago

You could argue that the money both of these superheros have enabled them to foster their intellect and abilities more than most people would be able to. You wouldn't be wrong, but both Batman and Iron Man are extremely intelligent, and innovative. They still both utilized their money to the greater good, at physical risk to themselves. Neither of these characters possess anything super human, they are not impervious to injury or death, nor do they have enhanced regenerative ability. They are the best superheroes because they can be killed.

[–]BigBoss1935 2 points3 points ago

While this is true, the heroes without money suffer problems too. One of the reasons I liked the Spider-man films was because it showed that Spider-man was always struggling financially, and he had to sacrifice his personal life. Just because he has super powers doesn't mean he isn't sacrificing anything. Peter Parker is always brilliant but in the films he sacrifices study (the whole brilliant but lazy) that could very well take him out of his financial troubles. With bad guys that are just as strong as him, if not stronger, he is always in danger as well.

[–]scorpion347 1 point2 points ago

And he can die.

[–]Elsanti -2 points-1 points ago

I don't see batman turning out well being born in africa, and abandoned. Is his intellect so great he can survive without parents as an infant?

[–]WhackAttack 3 points4 points ago

If you read the comics batman is actually a genius.

[–]Elsanti 0 points1 point ago

Yes, and a genius infant is still fairly dumb. Also, incapable of feeding themselves and fending off rats that want to eat them.

[–]WhackAttack 4 points5 points ago

You have no sense of adventure do you :(

[–]alphazero924 1 point2 points ago

That's like asking if Superman would still be Superman if he were born a black girl in Harlem. Clearly not because we're changing literally everything about the character. If however Bruce Wayne were born in Gotham and raised poor before his parents were killed when he was 8, he probably would have turned out mostly the same but with less kick-ass gadgetry since his being rich had little to nothing to do with his training and intellect.

[–]scorpion347 0 points1 point ago

are we sure that was never written? If not we should deffenitly get that written.

[–]matsyes 1 point2 points ago

You are making a strawman argument. Not being a 8 year old rich orphan does not mean being an abandoned infant in Africa. Also Tarzan.

[–]StupidFatHobbit 4 points5 points ago

Actually this is a lot of the reason why I prefer Batman + Iron Man to almost any other super hero. Because underneath all their armor, they're just men. They're not invincible like Superman, they can't fly or have super strength without technology aiding them. Remove their armor and they may be well-trained, intelligent men, but they'll both still fall to a single bullet. They rely on their wits and their tools to survive. They weren't born superheroes, they made themselves into superheroes.

Superman on the other hand, is a gigantic fucking pussy.

[–]Kiwifruitlime 0 points1 point ago

Iron Man is a super engineer! Best superhero ever!

[–]scorpion347 0 points1 point ago

On the other hand ever villian seems to be able to find kryptonite....

[–]Novasry 2 points3 points ago

Having the mouth exposed on the helmet like that would lead to some pretty severe limitations in speed and altitude.

[–]SirDerpingtonThe3rd 0 points1 point ago

Bugs, bugs in all the teeth.

[–]-Rusty-Shackleford- 5 points6 points ago

Gee, what an original post.

[–]pyrinja 3 points4 points ago

Damn Bill Gates. Crushing all of our hopes.

[–]nickfromredcliff 4 points5 points ago

Bill Gates has saved more lives through his disease-irradication campaigns than stopping petty criminals ever could.

Real life Super Hero.

[–]CommentsOnOccasion 0 points1 point ago

Batman would still be able to kick someone's ass if he lost all of his money.

Hand to hand combat, batman would win, with or without his suit, simply because he is so well-trained.

Iron man would not necessarily be able to fight if he was poor.

He would still be incredibly intelligent, but without weapons he is nothing.

Bruce Wayne's body is a weapon.

[–]Agentsmith2011 2 points3 points ago

Guess how much money stark had in that cave. His intelligence is his weapon

[–]nickfromredcliff -1 points0 points ago

And how did he get that training to be such a good fighter? Was it free?

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[–]Rountree85 2 points3 points ago

/r/Demotivational is a place.

[–]cislum 2 points3 points ago

And winning the genetic lottery. Batman can heal a broken back just by hanging by a rope for a few days. Maybe he is related to Wolverine.

[–]paracog 1 point2 points ago

Didn't seem to help the conservative superpacs this year....

[–]thedarklordkyp 0 points1 point ago

The question is... Who would win in a fight?

[–]Capissen38 1 point2 points ago

And the only one that's real.

[–]KingRat12 -1 points0 points ago

Fuck you

[–]cody_au 0 points1 point ago

Money can't buy happiness. But it can buy super powers that attract sex partners which creates happiness.

[–]gnarlysaurus -1 points0 points ago

Batman is still batman without the suit on.

[–]JOcean13 1 point2 points ago

He could of never have accomplished what he did if it weren't for money. There are plenty of people around the world that want to do good, BUT, they don't have the resources. Bruce Wayne might if had the same personality without the money, but he would of never became Batman the legend without money. Who's paying for the tumbler, batcave, and the suit?

[–]callupchuck 0 points1 point ago

I thought it was being a playboy.

[–]cbarland 1 point2 points ago

Both of these heroes had their defining moments when their money was stripped from them... Batman as he was training in solitude, and Iron Man as a prisoner in a cave.

[–]DukesNats 0 points1 point ago

Bless you, sir.

[–]theorian83 0 points1 point ago

Genetic manipulation. Best superpower of all.

[–]WhackAttack 1 point2 points ago

Dead parents help too.

[–]wingie 1 point2 points ago

Don't forget the dead parents and deadly heart condition! Without them our heroes would just be rich assholes as opposed to rich assholes who fight crime!

[–]ProfessorCramrod 0 points1 point ago

Until you get shot in the head.

[–]damphoussed 1 point2 points ago

That's why Rorschach is my favorite fictional vigilante of all time. Homie just operated on principle and principle alone.

[–]Tranger -1 points0 points ago

Right: Engineer

Left: A fucking night ninja.

[–]Linton58 -2 points-1 points ago

Reposting: The greatest karma generator of them all.

[–]Indigoh 1 point2 points ago

Someone, please, make a super hero whose only 'power' is being super rich. Make him have to fight crime. Without intelligence, how far can money get you?

[–]Sekuna 0 points1 point ago

Don't forget the Green Arrow!

Everyone always forgets about Oliver Queen. :(

[–]smpx 1 point2 points ago

To be fair, much of Dark Knight Rises focuses on the idea of who Batman is WITHOUT his toys, or even without his strength (him being crippled and whatnot). A great deal of it was focused on his mental strength and strategy. He fights most of his enemies with hand-to-hand combat, after all.

Iron Man had a lot of money, but built his original suit with scrap metal.

[–]Akardos 0 points1 point ago

Money and training by THE LEAGUE OF SHADOWSSSSSSS

[–]sme00 0 points1 point ago

False: Superman!

[–]WalkonWalrus 0 points1 point ago

I might be alone here, but I'm pretty sure heat vision and super strength beat out having tons of cash.

[–]Flapjack_ 0 points1 point ago

Actually plenty of non money based super heroes have better super powers. This is a really shitty image.

[–]Esk1m0 0 points1 point ago

I would rather be the wielder of Mjölnir.

[–]CBruce 0 points1 point ago

Best 'secret' identities as well.

[–]simonmaui 0 points1 point ago

I'd rather be wolverine than rich

[–]TheJucheisLoose 0 points1 point ago

How about the genius-level intellect that allowed them to make the money?

[–]7hou 0 points1 point ago

"If you were a superhero, you didn't build that."

-Barack Obama

[–]urban_sarcasm 0 points1 point ago

I think Money + Super Cool Costume, cuz Mitt Romney has lots of money and......

[–]grabbag21 0 points1 point ago

Also helps if you are in the top .000001% of intelligences on the planet.

[–]MagnusTheGreat 1 point2 points ago

Dead parents: The best motive for becoming a superhero.

[–]finallymadeanaccount -1 points0 points ago

Repost: best karma grab of all.

[–]jay_stark 0 points1 point ago

My uncle never shares any of that wealth... smdh

[–]alclarkey 0 points1 point ago

It's not exactly an uncommon phenomenon that a super-genius would be able to apply his intelligence to become super-rich. Tony didn't need his father's money, he could have made his own.

[–]OG_Willikers 2 points3 points ago

You can't buy x-ray vision.

[–]OG_Willikers 6 points7 points ago

More useful? Depends on what you use it for.

[–]Thor4269 3 points4 points ago

Or you know, god-hood....

[–]udizzle92 2 points3 points ago

You can't by x-ray vision...yet.

[–]Theonetheycallgreat 0 points1 point ago

Which one of the two has x-ray vision in the picture? Remind me, I forgot....

[–]redops47 1 point2 points ago

Didn't help Mittens win the election though ;)

[–]Chase_is_a_dumbass -2 points-1 points ago

Old!

[–]wogs94 6 points7 points ago

Agreed, but you are a dumbass

[–]mordacthedenier 0 points1 point ago

How do you know he's Chase?

[–]BlakeFitzgerald -1 points0 points ago

Maybe he thinks he's just a dumbass, redgardless of his username?

[–]Azozel -2 points-1 points ago

Technically, these guys are vigilantes, not superheros.

[–]phantomwriter28 -2 points-1 points ago

batman is a vigilante, Iron Man is an actual super hero. his reach affects many, many more than in one city. batman's still awesome though

[–]fluxaxion 4 points5 points ago

Justice League! Batman affects on a world scale as well.

[–]Azozel 0 points1 point ago

There isn't anything super about Iron Man he's still just a man who uses machines to do what he thinks is right. He may be a genius, but being smart isn't a super power. I know in the comics he develops something close to super powers (and I believe we'll see that in the next movie).

[–]cbarland 0 points1 point ago

I suppose that's true from a legal standpoint.

Morally, I'd say Tony has a few more character flaws.

[–]FauxFancyPants -2 points-1 points ago

Holy shit the level of idiocy in these comments.

  1. They are fictional superheroes. They would be superheroes regardless of their fictional upbringings.

  2. I'm no über libertarian/capitalist/rand-boner-haver, but all the bitching about "they are superheroes and smart because they got the best education money can buy" is bullshit. Plenty of people for ordinary means make their own future on a daily basis. If you are bitching about how fictional people are only geniuses because they had a good fictional education then holy shit get a grip. No genius goes unnoticed because they didn't have a prestigious education. Argue all you want but true genius always perseveres and is not made by a pampered education.

I'm sorry for ranting. But shit. I'm a pretty passive guy and I feel like the biggest Alpha-Fucking-Male on the planet after reading all the whiny bitch comments on here.

[–]dhockey63 -1 points0 points ago

Its called intellect and motivation.

[–]NeoSpartacus -1 points0 points ago

I'll say it every time, The only thing keeping Bruce Wayne out of Arkham is his money. If Batman were poor he would be locked up with the other loonies in masks.