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[–]Redhawk1000 70 points71 points ago

I always tell people to think about this happening in their own home and not as it is between the people of Gaza and the Israeli regime.

Imagine if some random guy came into your home and kicked you and your family out by force, do you just protest peacefully with a sign in the backyard or do you use whatever force necessary to stop them?

We have to think logically about this and imagine living like the people of Gaza with a land and sea blockade on our borders, the Palestinians in Gaza have no other choice but to fight this aggression.

[–]ForestGnome4 31 points32 points ago

There's a reason why a few years ago Gaza was declared the worlds largest open air prison. It's outrageous.

[–]I_am_THE_GRAPIST 3 points4 points ago

Wait, so Gaza is like Arkham City?

[–]bigbeekeekilla 9 points10 points ago

More like the city in the end part of Children of Men.

[–]amaefm 1 point2 points ago

Children of Men or is there another story I'm not aware of? Because the ghetto toward the end of that film could easily be based on Gaza.

[–]bigbeekeekilla 6 points7 points ago

They actually have a Hamas flag in one scene if I'm not mistaken.

[–]bigbeekeekilla -2 points-1 points ago

HA! I'm not awake. fixed.

[–]seanbearpig 1 point2 points ago

Woah. Dude. Spot-fucking on. I never thought of it that way.

[–]ForestGnome4 5 points6 points ago

With more mortars.

[–]darthelmo 0 points1 point ago

And fewer walls.

[–]ForestGnome4 1 point2 points ago

oh god, i should not have, but i laughed.

[–]UraharaZR 0 points1 point ago

Well, the same thing happend in Kosovo, but no one cared.

[–]FongoBongoblue 91 points92 points ago

This poster just goes to show you how one-sided the mainstream media reports on the Israelis-Palestine conflict. Thanks for putting it into perspective.

[–]neg8ivezero 35 points36 points ago

Oh is THAT what it was about?! Thanks for the context, the title certainly didn't explain what they were referring to...

edit I just realized this sounded sarcastic... it isn't.. I had no idea.

[–]Preponderance 6 points7 points ago

I read it as sarcastic also before I knew you edited it.

From here on out, I've got you tagged as sarcastic(In RES), that way I will automatically read it sarcastically. For shit and giggles.

[–]majikstranger 2 points3 points ago

i read it as Randy marsh in Sarcastaball.

[–]neg8ivezero 1 point2 points ago

Ain't even mad. Upvotes, sir- all around!

[–]bigbeekeekilla 9 points10 points ago

I don't know. Your edit sounded kinda sarcastic too. Hmmmm...

LOL

[–]mythtixx 0 points1 point ago

i think it was only all the emphasis on ''THAT'' that makes it sound sarcastic if you read it back as just lowercase ''that'' it doesn't sound as sarcastic to read. Imo

[–]Preponderance 0 points1 point ago

You know a good(no-biased) spot to read up on it(why), start to finish?

[–]pullo 0 points1 point ago

No. Best you can do is start paying attention to many news sources and official statements Appreciate that these viewpoints are skewed. Learn the language and the real story becomes obvious.

[–]keyboardlover 0 points1 point ago

I would actually recommend learning the history of the whole conflict first. I tend to stay away from news sources at all - it's unnecessary. Knowing the history and the reality of America's involvement now is really enough - the writing is on the wall.

Like most little known truths - there's no conspiracy per se. It's just that nobody does their homework and everybody believes what they're fed.

[–]ezbeefy 5 points6 points ago

the war drum is beating

[–]UtopicVisionWelcome to the Machine 30 points31 points ago

I have an odd question, what the hell is going on over /r/worldnews ?

I thought the subscribers of that subreddit are pro-palestine, at least pro palestenian cause. If you head over there and read the comments, all you could see is people justifying Israel's attacks when just 2 weeks ago they were condemning Israel for demolishing homes in the West Bank.

Seriously, when did they switch views?

[–]fixedzero 26 points27 points ago

Nothing changed, it's just different people posting - the pro-Israel groups find forums to focus on and infiltrate them when necessary. It sounds like a conspiracy but it's a fairly common tactic.

[–]wakluk 16 points17 points ago

[–]JimmyHavok 3 points4 points ago

They do their best to get anyone who posts facts about Israel banned. I've seen it happening since the first Internet forums were established. The free-speech ethic of reddit is the only thing that protects it from that tactic.

[–]d3sperad0 45 points46 points ago

They didn't; the shills know where to hit and come out in force when a propaganda campaign is underway.

[–]tttt0tttt 18 points19 points ago

An army of Hasbara shills descended like locusts and ate the truth.

[–]DeptOfHasbara 15 points16 points ago

I've noticed a pattern: they seem to always bring up the recent attacks against tel aviv when a valid point is brought against them, avoiding the topic, refusing to let word out that it was actually Israel that lit the recent match with their "accidental" killing of a palestinian.

[–]normalboy 2 points3 points ago

Well Israel, particularly Mossad is known for it's active online propaganda campaign. Registering on forums just to say positive shit about Israel and what have you.

Or at least that's the good word. Plus this is /r/conspiracy so I can say stuff like that and not appear too crazy.

[–]omegaweapon 4 points5 points ago

i replied to a guy there who was getting shot in flames for being pro Palestinian by sarcastic pro Israelis, i got 27 butt hurt messages calling me a terrorist and anti semite.

[–]heuheuheuheuh 0 points1 point ago

I'm done with caring about this whole ridiculous conflict, have been for years. Although I do think Israel is completely in the wrong and never should have stole that land in the first place.

But when people call those who are critical of Israel anti-semites, I get pissed. I'm not racist, I don't hate Jewish people at all. But Israel is straight up rotten to Palestine and I don't think they should even be there in the first place. This does not make me an anti-semite.

[–]MittensObama 1 point2 points ago

I don't know why people say they're pro-Palestinian(/Anti-Israeli/Anti-Semite/Nazi sympathizers/Holocaust-deniers).

I've seen a lot of threads on there full of blatant racism against Muslims and Arabs.

[–]vbp6us 18 points19 points ago

You have to be a hypocrite or delusional not to understand why the Palestinians are defending themselves.

[–]SpiritSausageFingers 5 points6 points ago

STOP RESISTING!!

[–]WastedWhales 1 point2 points ago

I'm not even doing anything...

[–]Enkmarl 20 points21 points ago

The israel propaganda machine is pretty fucking remarkable (and really fucking creepy)

[–]GADBabaganoosh 15 points16 points ago

Israeli crocodile tears

[–]GADBabaganoosh 1 point2 points ago

I've seen this before, its what I was thinking of when I posted it.

[–]thedude108 26 points27 points ago

Honestly I can't stand to hear most people's opinions on the Israel/Palestine conflict. It is an extremely complex issue, and blaming one side or one group is an extreme oversimplification.

There are so many factors at play: Religious beliefs, religious conflicts, historical beliefs, historical conflicts... It's really an insanely complex situation, and to say only one side or one group is responsible, or could create peace, is just plain ignorant.

Please people, let's not go demonizing a group of people before we truly understand their situation. And honestly it would take weeks of history and religion lessons from an unbiased person (good luck finding one) to begin to grasp the complexity of this situation.

[–]BenevolentBoneitis 19 points20 points ago

I think this statement is disingenuous:

It is an extremely complex issue, and blaming one side or one group is an extreme oversimplification.

This language conveniently skirts around the issue then sweeps it under the rug. This is the language we used to describe the Enron collapse: ala "This is an extremely complex issues, there is no way we can know all the factors that went wrong or who is to blame." which to me translates to "This scandal is complex by design so it can't accurately be investigated."

True, there are extremists on both sides, but it's obvious that Israel has all the power in the situation. And they are aggressively encroaching on land that has been lived on for generations, monopolizing land with access to water on it, rationing inadequate amounts of food, and terrorizing the Palestinians with military forces.

I by no means think the Palestinians are peaceful blameless angels, I've seen really nasty videos from agressors on both sides (On a side note - who teaches their kids to throw rocks at people? No matter what this will just end badly for everyone involved.), but when one side wields all the power and they continually act like this, they hold majority of the blame.

[–]thedude108 -3 points-2 points ago

I agree with almost everything you say, except that one side wields all the power, though I agree that Israel is definitely in the dominant position at the moment.

So what do you propose Israel does?

Anyways I "skirt around the issue" because I don't have any answers. For a long time I really sympathized more with the Palestinian side, but the more I learn about the issue the more I realize I really just don't know. I realized that I thought the Palestinians were the persecuted underdogs, but the more I lean about these groups, the more I realize that both sides were persecuted underdogs at one point and right now Israel just happens to be the more developed nation, and has the backing of the US.

Bottom line is that I have no clue how either side should be acting.

[–]amaefm 3 points4 points ago

The people currently residing in Israel were never persecuted underdogs.

[–]aveceasar 0 points1 point ago

You could say the russian immigrants were - still doesn't give them carte blanche to persecute even more...

[–]Arghem 2 points3 points ago

All Isreal has to do is start taking the high road and supply social services to the Palestinians and shut down settlement expansion. It will take decades to see returns but if you aren't being nice the other guys will definitely never want peace. If Palestinian quality of life is low they will natural blame those who displaced them and want revenge.

Or do what America did and slaughter 95% of them. Course that clearly means being the bad guys.

[–]FongoBongoblue 12 points13 points ago

It all began with the Balfour Declaration that set the wheels in motion for the creation of a Jewish State:

His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country

What came next was a large migration of Jews to the area known as Palestine. The influx of jews into palestine created tensions until the Partition Act of 1947 and the eventual civil war in Palestine.

Your right when you say it's a complex issue. But the way the Israelis are treating the Palestinians is not complexed. It's simply barbaric and ironic considering what the Jews have suffered at the hands of Fascism. They're becoming the very thing they tried to escape.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration

[–]maus5000AD 3 points4 points ago

The only reason I don't find it terribly ironic is that when you're talking about individuals, the bullied often grow up to become the bullies. After so much time of being picked on by those they perceive as stronger, some will turn around and look for someone weaker- it's how they understand the world.

So. Israel thought it was hot shit back in the bronze age, until the Big Empires started up and spent roughly 2,500 years pushing them around. Now that we're in an era where imperialism grows from the barrel of an ICBM silo, and not territory/how many soldiers you have, the only context those in power have for how empires work is to spread, scatter, destroy, and oppress.

I know not all Jews/Israelis feel this way, and it's absurd to say so- but what's going on amongst the powers that be isn't irony so much as a vicious cycle.

[–]tttt0tttt 4 points5 points ago

They're becoming the very thing they tried to escape.

Jews didn't try to escape anything. They wanted their own country, because of the political and economic advantages it would give them, and they used terrorism and manipulations and money to get it.

[–]KevenM 3 points4 points ago

I think thedude108 is referring to people like you.

[–]thedude108 -5 points-4 points ago

Yo know they wanted their own country because if you look at their history, nearly every country they inhabited fucked them over. They were slaves in Egypt, and we all know what happened in Germany.

They wanted a home they could call their own and not have to worry about their own government trying to eradicate their entire race. Surely we here at /r/conspiracy can sympathize with that.

[–]bigbeekeekilla 6 points7 points ago

I'm so tired of this Bronze Age shit. It's not a contest of religion. It's some people committing war crimes against some other people.

Your logic is the continuation of a cycle of violence the modern world can not and will not tolerate anymore.

[–]blitzkrieg2003 2 points3 points ago

*slow clap* I hope the world grows out of this phase same as it did feudalism

[–]jblo 2 points3 points ago

They were never slaves in Egypt.

[–]bigbeekeekilla -1 points0 points ago

There is no proof they were, but there could be truth to it. Nobody knows either way. We can't say definitively that they weren't, some of them at some time. It is absolutely false, however, that they built the pyramids. Slavery came much later.

[–]tjbanks85 1 point2 points ago

Are slaves allowed to leave their owners armed? Egypt allowed the Jews to leave armed but on their way out of town the Jews sacked a city for supplies. That is when Egypt's army came after them and Moses tricked them with the pillars of smoke and fire.

[–]ThoughtPorn724 0 points1 point ago

source?

[–]ThoughtPorn724 0 points1 point ago

Thank you my call for a source was merely curiosity.

[–]bigbeekeekilla -2 points-1 points ago

You're taking this to serious.

[–]tjbanks85 1 point2 points ago

Not serious at all, studied world military history in college. You said we wouldnt know one way or the other and I asked if you had ever heard of slaves being allowed to leave their captures in arms? Jews left Egypt because at one point they had been allies and fought together. They were slowly delegated to the role of builders, paid, treated faily and also had Egyptian military doctors at building sites to tend to them. Dr Richard Gabriel has written several books and spoken on this many times. As they saw their roles change Moses went to the Egyptian leader and asked to let his people go, he did, but then set his army after them when he learned of the city being sacked for supplies. It makes sense. No one is going to allow captives to leave armed. It may not say specifically they were/were not slaves but context clues paint a pretty clear picture.

[–]jblo 0 points1 point ago

They weren't as no Y Haplogroup for Israelis exist in Egypt.;

[–]amaefm 0 points1 point ago

I can sympathize with that desire, I can't sympathize with the fact that in doing so they have disenfranchised an entire population.

[–]aveceasar 0 points1 point ago

They were slaves in Egypt

Hmm... as a Polack, I know my ancestors were at some point slaves to the Vikings - can we invade Norway and Sweden?

[–]omegaweapon -1 points0 points ago

they were booted out of every country. If my friend keeps getting kicked out of every pub he goes to, surely there might be a reason other than the bouncers are racist

[–]thedude108 -3 points-2 points ago

Ah so we should just exterminate them then?

I tell you, Israel is a much better place to live when it comes to human rights. They have the second biggest gay pride festival in the world. Woman have equal rights, and are even allowed to drive.

Anyways I'm not saying that one side is right and the other is wrong. Just that it's easy to get a slanted view when we don't see the big picture. And I don't see the big picture, because I don't have that much time or interest to do that much research.

[–]omegaweapon 5 points6 points ago

where the fuck did you extract "exterminate the jews" from my comment? i simply made a true point, yes they've been kicked out of every country they've been in, should they be looking into why? should they just assume people are racist? should they starve, imprison, exterminate and humiliate an entire population?

[–]Kage2021 4 points5 points ago

When someone does something like that guy just did, it's best to just stop talking to them. That is clearly not a rational person interested in discussing things or learning things on the other end of that text. Its a person trying to piss you off, who enjoys the feeling of "winning the conversation" to a degree that rational discussion takes a back seat to the "I'm right" high.

[–]thedude108 -3 points-2 points ago

Haha sorry I have a bit of an off sense of humour, I know you didn't really mean that.

Anyways I'm just saying yes they've been kicked out of a lot of places, and so it seems like a good idea for them to have their own country. What's the alternative? My real point is that there's no easy resolution.

Anyways I really don't know why they've been kicked out of everywhere, but one reason they've been disliked in a lot of places is because they were money lenders... like banks. They lent money with interest, and as a result people were getting into more and more debt... again just like banks and credit cards today. Some people saw them as a plague on society because of that.

Personally though, I choose not to let myself get into debt. I'm in zero debt with any bank or credit card.

Again though I'm not a historian and I'm sure there were much more complex things going on.

[–]mickstep 5 points6 points ago

The Bosnian serbs of the Srebinica massacre are always going to be a persecuted minority, why not give them Rhode Island or somewhere?

[–]jblo 1 point2 points ago

Because Jesus.

[–]bigbeekeekilla 0 points1 point ago

I think thedude108 is like 12yo. or something.

[–]bigbeekeekilla -1 points0 points ago

You drone on and THEN say you don't have that much time or interest to do that much research? Did you realize this AS you were typing?

[–]djisadj -1 points0 points ago

Or because they needed a country. You know, one or the other.

[–]aveceasar -1 points0 points ago

Fuck, I need a house - I bet you will not mind if I take over yours and just stuff you into basement...

[–]djisadj -1 points0 points ago

They didn't take over...

Britain gave the land to them.

In fact they gave Gaza as a peace offering.

[–]aveceasar -1 points0 points ago

Oh, no worry, I have a good friend who will gladly give me your house - and I will give you the basement as a "peace offering" too... I guess we have a deal!

[–]djisadj 0 points1 point ago

I'd argue this in a different subreddit, no point here, just ignorance and apathy towards the truth.

[–]haphapablap 1 point2 points ago

An extremely complex issue? This is all you need to know.

We've also heard about the palestinian-israeli conflict for DECADES. To say people are ignorant of the situation is condescending. A lot of people know what's really going on. It's a nation gradually taking the land of anothers.

edit: I also notice you got a gift of reddit gold for your comment that was an attempt of obfuscation.

[–]AkuTaco 2 points3 points ago

Israel/Palestine is like a terrible, drawn out relationship that should really never have started and refuses to end. No one wants to be in it, but both parties are sticking around because they've invested too much in the whole thing to let it go. They should totally break up, but neither one of them wants to move out of the apartment and they both want the dog.

[–]thedude108 1 point2 points ago

And neither one of them could find a new apartment to live in even if they tried.

[–]amaefm 0 points1 point ago

No, now they could both have a smaller apartment but Israel won't secede the 1967 borders. Palestine lost, came back groveling for the borders they once refused and now Israel acts like a greedy entitled child.

[–]Chipware 10 points11 points ago

Is /r/conspiracy some kind of pro-palestinian group? I came here expecting actual conspiracy theories.

[–]yesandifthen 31 points32 points ago

One of the biggest conspiracy theories of all time is that the Jews rule the world. There are some people here who believe that beyond a shadow of a doubt.

[–]Level_32_Mage 17 points18 points ago

That they rule from the shadows.

[–]seanbearpig 4 points5 points ago

What the actual fuck? You don't have to believe that "jewz rul the world" to understand that Israel has been committing blatant war crimes, and human rights violations against the Palestinians for decades.

Shovel that "lol crazy anti-semite conspiracists" bullshit somewhere else.

[–]Exedous -1 points0 points ago

Israel has been committing blatant war crimes, and human rights violations against the Palestinians for decades.

Really? that's how my country, the United States of America was founded. Almost, if not, every country that exists or existed.

[–]seanbearpig -1 points0 points ago

Oh wow. Never thought of it that way. IT'S ALL OK NOW! Rainbows

[–]zendingo 6 points7 points ago

is there any doubt that jews control israel, palestine?

[–]yesandifthen 2 points3 points ago

Is there any doubt that Israel/Palestine = The World? Yes. There is doubt.

What are you saying?

[–]zendingo 0 points1 point ago

i'm saying if any group of people is responsible to what is happening in israel/palestine right now it's israel.

what are you saying?

again i ask, is there any doubt that jews control israel and palestine?

[–]yesandifthen -4 points-3 points ago

The comment was: "Is /r/conspiracy some kind of pro-palestinian group? I came here expecting actual conspiracy theories."

The commenter said that because the OP doesn't seem to have to do with a conspiracy, but rather the plight of the Palestinians.

I said this "One of the biggest conspiracy theories of all time is that the Jews rule the world. There are some people here who believe that beyond a shadow of a doubt."

In essence, "yes, /r/conspiracy is a sort of pro-Palestinian group, because of how many Jew-fearing redditors there are here."

Then you said: "is there any doubt that jews control israel, palestine?"

Which seems totally irrelevant to the first two comments. It's not a conspiracy, and it has nothing to do with Jews ruling the world.

[–]tttt0tttt -1 points0 points ago

They run America, and are the elite class in America. They control much of Europe, Canada, and Australia. I don't think too many people claim they rule the world. That's their ultimate objective, but they aren't there yet.

[–]jgold16 -2 points-1 points ago

....based on what?? The Protocols of the Elders of Zion?

[–]DenjinJ 19 points20 points ago

Ownership of banks, movie studios, media and lobby groups and other powerful companies, I'd imagine? What they're doing with that power is quite up for debate, but who runs the show is pretty cut and dry.

[–]Ijustlostmyjengajam 7 points8 points ago

A large number of Jews in powerful positions in different industries does not equal "the Jews control the world." That implies they all have some sort of unified shadow agenda in place and a common perceived kinship based solely on their heritage. Many conspiratards can't understand this distinction, however.

[–]DenjinJ 3 points4 points ago

True, but the question was why it's such a popular conspiracy theory.

[–]Ijustlostmyjengajam -1 points0 points ago

Why do you think?

Not a rhetorical question btw

[–]DenjinJ -1 points0 points ago

My earlier reply was my answer. It's because they see Jewish people running large banks, movie studios, powerful lobby groups, and various other positions of power. There are also long-debunked manifestos like PEoZ that surely still linger in a part of the collective consciousness.

So someone says "Jews control the world" and someone else looks around and goes "well... they do control that... and that... and that... and that... gee... I guess they do control the world!"

Even I wouldn't say the assertion is wrong, as a broad generalization that is far from absolute. I don't have the numbers myself, but it seems plausible they control a very significant portion of the most powerful positions. I'd agree though that one definitely can't assume they're colluding as a unified group, even when in particular spheres like Hollywood, people have felt the need to use more Jewish-sounding names in order to get into the industry. There is a definite perception of in-group favoritism among them... but I couldn't say if that's well-founded, and that really doesn't imply a grander conspiracy to me.

[–]FongoBongoblue 3 points4 points ago

Many jews are in a position of power in key elements of industry, business, media, and banking where they're able to dictate flow of information, price of goods (via currency manipulation/stocks), currency, and consolidation of wealth. When you have a few people at the higher echelons of power who control all the levers of world government/finance it's easy to for them to in a sense, "control the world." Especially, when said people are trying to promote a certain agenda. Let'say the invasion of destabilization of the Middle East and the assertion of Israelis Hegemony.

[–]zendingo -2 points-1 points ago

truth.

[–]jgold16 -3 points-2 points ago

Same logic applies to Christians... Do Christians "control the world"?

Better yet (and this is specially for reddit) - Do atheists control the world?

[–]Oobuskaboo 0 points1 point ago

Atheist do not control the world, Yet! We'll try as hard as we can to reclaim power back from the religious extremists such as the Zionists who are in control at present and enforcing their immoral agendas. The World is WAKING UP and the shit will certainly hit the fan!

[–]maus5000AD 0 points1 point ago

and thus will the bullied become the new bullies.

[–]Oobuskaboo 0 points1 point ago

I don't believe so. I think as a whole, people become atheist through realisation of the abilty to questions ones beliefs, and therefore look for the evidence behind them, when it is not found people look for solice elsewhere. Now that these people have a collective to become part of, they don't feel afraid anymore. This alone drives the increase in atheism throughout the world, there is no need to force your beliefs onto others and therefore no need to become a bully. Capitalist on the other hand...

[–]john_madden_advice 0 points1 point ago

Really? How many athiests are on the Supreme Court? Do you think they are properly represented per population ratio?

How many Christians are in control of the top media companies?

[–]ronintetsuroSeeing the fnords -1 points0 points ago

And some of us know the difference between a religion and a government. You should join us.

[–]yesandifthen 3 points4 points ago

What?

[–]ronintetsuroSeeing the fnords 2 points3 points ago

Zionism =/= Judaism

Looks like you might not be brighter than all of us after all. Maybe you have something to learn from /r/conspiracy.

[–]yesandifthen 1 point2 points ago

I never said it did.

[–]ronintetsuroSeeing the fnords 1 point2 points ago

You did say that this sub doesn't know the difference. I'm proving that's not the case.

[–]yesandifthen 2 points3 points ago

"There are some people here who believe that beyond a shadow of a doubt."

To you that means "this sub doesn't know the difference between Zionism and Judaism?"

[–]hmcbabeI stand with Israel -3 points-2 points ago

There aren't that many Jews in the world; they only make up about 0.2% of the world's population. And even then they are oppressed. I am curious. How exactly do they rule the world?

[–]yesandifthen 0 points1 point ago

Don't ask me. I am not trying to say this theory is true. I was trying to answer Chipware question as to why this subreddit feels pro-Palestinian.

[–]thedude108 0 points1 point ago

I really hate this phrasing. It would be much more accurate to say that the people who rule the world happen to be Jews. Because I can tell you I've met a lot of Jews who certainly do not rule the world.

Grass is green, but not everything that's green is grass.

[–]yesandifthen 1 point2 points ago

I don't think your phrasing is accurate either, and I wasn't trying to say that it is true that Jews rule the world, just answer the question as to why this subreddit feels pro-Palestinian.

[–]KevenM -3 points-2 points ago

Read enough threads, and you'll start to notice a very strong anti-israel and anti-jew sentiment around this subreddit. If you don't believe me, post a comment that's pro-Israel, then watch the responses and downvotes come flying.

[–]seanbearpig 14 points15 points ago

I'm not really sure what's so bad about being biased against the one country that commits more human rights violations, and breaks international law more times than all the other countries. (On Americans' tax-dollars no less)

[–]sumdog 7 points8 points ago

I disagree with "anti-jew." Anti-Israel, yes. The government does do horrible things and has major PAC and other political entities in many countries around the world to help expand its power.

I know Jews who are sickened at the apartheid state of the Palestinian people. The fact that it doesn't get reported on in the media is a conspiracy.

[–]fulltimegeek -3 points-2 points ago

The answer to your question = Yes. I'm pretty sure /r/conspiracy has been infiltrated by Muslim & Marxists propagandists. Most conspiracies on here conclude that Jews rule the world and are the cause of every diaper rash and hangnail.

[–]amaefm 2 points3 points ago

Gotta love people who throw around terms like Marxist and Muslim like they're insults.

[–]VELOXIMIDE 0 points1 point ago

stormfront

[–]gookiller 6 points7 points ago

Most of the Jews in Israel are not even ancestors of the Hebrews. There khazars thus having no true Jewish blood line.

[–]Oobuskaboo 2 points3 points ago

Yes and many of these Jews moved to Israel from safe haven's such the USA, putting themselves in the line of fire, and then call themselves victims. I find this truely bizzare.

[–]gookiller 1 point2 points ago

Agreed, the way the country of Israel was reconstructed after wwII has always perplexed me. Its it like hey were not Sally from here were moving hope your not mad

[–]synthionAnarcho-Communist -1 points0 points ago

....what does that have to do with anything?

[–]aveceasar 0 points1 point ago

And even more bizarre, the Palestinians are mostly descendants of the (sephardim) Jews who got converted to Islam...

[–]rabbidpanda 3 points4 points ago

How indirect can an action be and still be considered self defense?

Was his action targeted at the people who were individually responsible for actions that attacked him specifically? Did they actually burn olive trees that he owned? Did he attack the person responsible for imprisoning his father?

[–]NotANinja 0 points1 point ago

Good question.

On the flip side, does the rocket have to hit something for the retaliation to be self-defense?

[–]aveceasar 0 points1 point ago

And the over 1 million Palestinians killed in the 2009 Israeli campaign were all rocket-launchers? Didn't know they had so many rockets... /s

[–]puffpuffpacifist -1 points0 points ago

Would his situation be any different had he shot the front portion of the rocket as well?

[–]IlluminousGlowCap 0 points1 point ago

Ron Paul 2016, maybe

[–]alsorobots 0 points1 point ago

All death is horrible and chosen. I truly wish I could swap places with those who were harmed by these attacks, but even if I could travel to the heat of the conflict, it would not end anything. I truly hope a great man rises up to speak out and convince these two sides that friends can have many conflicts and still remain friends.

[–]broompunch 0 points1 point ago

look at the biased username...

[–]BufalaMozzarella 0 points1 point ago

Too bad that rocket was aimed at civilians.

I think Israel is culpable of many bad deeds, but engaging in violence because you've received injustice is no excuse. Look at Ghandhi and the slaughter of those that followed him. They didn't resort to violence as an excuse and their cause emerged victorious.

Injustice is never an excuse for killing.

[–]bluekhakis -1 points0 points ago

ابك اليوم بكاء النساء على ملك لم تحفظه حفظ الرجال

[–]contrarianism -2 points-1 points ago

Let's blame the Palestinian leadership for a change.

[–]simplelogic2 -4 points-3 points ago

yes, we must end the jewish occupation of muslim lands!

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[–]MalizuluGoogle Anthony Sutton 3 points4 points ago

You were looking for this, right?

[–]tetefather -1 points0 points ago

Why is this in /r/conspiracy?

[–]cgeezy22 -2 points-1 points ago

"I shot a rocket back and reiterated the fact that I will continue doing so until every jew is dead"

[–]pfunkmort 0 points1 point ago

Do you ever stop and think that perhaps it's this brazen, unwavering unwillingness to objectively and critically judge your own actions and their impact on another people that makes them so desperate in the face of decades of marginalization and oppression?

But no, continue.

[–]cgeezy22 0 points1 point ago

I do actually, all the time. Then I remember that Hamas wants to exterminate the Jews and lets face it....most likely any other non muslim.

Then I realize, with guidelines like those, I dont really care what they think.

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[–]zendingo 6 points7 points ago

so you support apartide? yes?

[–]test_please_ignore 0 points1 point ago

Where was this picture taken? For all I know that's a geriatric hippie at UC Berkeley.

[–]goddamnzilla -3 points-2 points ago

Faggot fucking bullshit murderous asshole. Fuck this retarded shit.

[–]CYAAfghanistan -5 points-4 points ago

Who cares, islam is a religion of perversion and oppression

[–]ConspiracyMomma 2 points3 points ago

All religions.

[–]CYAAfghanistan -2 points-1 points ago

Here is one find one for me