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[–]Universus 46 points47 points ago

There are fully accessible holes like this in a place called Papago Park in Phoenix.

I've been hiking there many a time, it's cool too imagine natives living in these holes back in the day.

[–]rajsaxena 79 points80 points ago

There are fully accessible holes like this in a place called Your Mom.

[–]Universus 44 points45 points ago

ಥ_ಥ

[–]Untrue_Story 29 points30 points ago

I prefer to think that rajsaxena was referring to the Earth Goddess and the spiritual aspects prehistoric humans might have associated with shelter like this, rather than your personal mother.

[–]hamburgerandhotdog 8 points9 points ago

Your username says otherwise.

[–]Baldwenis 218 points219 points ago

I call bullshit. This photo was in no way taken in 40.000 BC

[–]childishglover 44 points45 points ago

Timetravel.

[–]gbchaosmaster 17 points18 points ago

Wibbly-wobbly... timey-wimey

[–]toronto_gosh 4 points5 points ago

What kind of mind is capable of even thinking of a response like this?

[–]Horkos5 4 points5 points ago

apparently you are?

[–]toronto_gosh 0 points1 point ago

No, not at all! I thought it was hilarious and I have no idea how people come up with things like this.

[–]ingannilo 0 points1 point ago

any Dr. Who fan... so the word "mind" should be used delicately.

[–]Lostwanderer91 8 points9 points ago

Its a painting. Look closely.

[–]Travie6492 4 points5 points ago

Great resolution.

[–]funkydo 4 points5 points ago

Dude they found a coin there marked with that date.

[–]funkydo 2 points3 points ago

Is "." how Europe does date numbers?

[–]Carthagefield 8 points9 points ago

In most of continental Europe, they use a comma for the decimal point, and a full stop (period) for the thousands separator. Completely the opposite to the British/American system. Some people just like to watch the world burn.

[–]PillMill 2 points3 points ago

yes, and their decimal numbers are written "1,5" instead of "1.5" for example

[–]funkydo 0 points1 point ago

I actually knew that. The date just looked odd.

[–]BurningKarma -1 points0 points ago

WTF? No they aren't. Wrong on both things.

[–]snapfractalpop 1 point2 points ago

Actually, this is a cave from exactly 40BC (-XL) precise to three decimal places.

Source: OP

[–]funkydo 0 points1 point ago

That is real exact.

[–]BurningKarma 0 points1 point ago

No.

[–]LOLumad1013 138 points139 points ago

Take a moment to put your mind back to 40,000 BC. You are a caveman coming home after a long day killing big and scary animals as well as whatever else cavemen had to do that sucked because of lack of modern day tools and shit. You walk up this rough, rocky hill and see this cave, your cave. It might be dirt and rock but the sight alone gives you a calming satisfaction from a days hard work.

You get this same feeling now when coming home from a long days work, right?

Amazing to think you are sharing a feeling someone living in 40,000 BC felt as well.

[–]UsedJesusCondom 70 points71 points ago

The human experience transcends the eons. It's amazing to think that all the things we feel, they felt too.

[–]BoringUsername1Space is deep 76 points77 points ago

MMMM cave woman pussy!

[–]DexOx 60 points61 points ago

no shave novem...never!

[–]BurningKarma 0 points1 point ago

Or lack thereof.

[–]the_walrus_was_ringo 3 points4 points ago

I know that feel, caveman bro.

[–]alapanamo 13 points14 points ago

I love your perspective

[–]breakneckridge 32 points33 points ago

Great description, love it, but with one quibble. You make it sound like the caveman was thinking of his cave as if it was a very simple structure he was living in, but he was probably seeing it as a modern place to live. Heck, he may've considered his cave to be ultra-modern, with it's cutting edge firepit and chimney groove in the ceiling. (or whatever)

[–]Dyltreeno -1 points0 points ago

I have a quibble with that. I don't think they had evolved the capacity to have that feeling of pride in possession, or even any concept of "ultra-modern" and "cutting edge". That idea has been rising since the first set of people evolved to a point where they didn't require a herd mentality or large group of people to survive. They became so powerful and adapted that they eventually started wanting to smaller communities. With those communities comes conflict and the first real divide in humans as a whole. These communities were in competition and hoarded land, food and supplies. Lots of stuff happens I'm too high to write out in between. Then you get to times like the Egyptians and different empires and intelligence because they're not totally reliant on purely survival, so their mind evolves into other aveneus of development. People start to have an ego. They want to be distinguished. Lots more happens that we all know about and we get to a more modernish era. It, for a while, is actually a more socialist view of stuff. People want their own communities, countries, to have more wealth, not just themselves. Now a more modern time, and after more inter communal conflict over borders. That gets resolved. There's another conflict over borders and ideologies. Resolved. You know what, I'm kinda high and I have it all figured out but this has taken way too long to type.

Basically in the times of cavemen they would have seen the cave as nothing but survival. They were prototype people basically, and only had the functions to know shelter is good. I think people think that they were super advanced because of Hollywood movies and such. They really were as simple as it gets in terms of a human conscious.

[–]Dfnoboy 22 points23 points ago

Lots of speculation going on here.. best to just retract everything you said.

[–]hashtaggd 3 points4 points ago

...I'm too high to write out in between...

I feel you man.

[–]balthazarbalthazar 9 points10 points ago

|They were as simple as it gets in terms of a human conscious

God even I know that's a load of bull, and that's only through barely paying attention to a biological anthropology class that i frequently show up drunk to

[–]breakneckridge 11 points12 points ago

in the times of cavemen they would have seen the cave as nothing but survival. They were prototype people basically, and only had the functions to know shelter is good... They really were as simple as it gets in terms of a human conscious.

Nope, cavemen 40,000 years ago were definitely not just "prototype people", they were full fledged human beings basically the same as us.

Homosapiens have been around for a couple million years and

humans have had our modern type of behaviors and complex thoughts for at least the past 50,000 years.

[–]lascar 3 points4 points ago

you could also just mention the lascaux caves and the small idols found on the cave sites such as the Venus of Willendorf were all infact on a cognitive level to ensure the survival of their own.

My favorite topic is the Lascaux Caves because they would draw out these great big animals deep in darkest parts of the caves and they have these immense pictures of bison and other animals, and on closer inspection you would notice they were chipped as rocks would be thrown at them repeatedly. Their belief to ensure a good kill by throwing stones to weaken the beasts spirit would be easier to tame and kill. Looking at it, it's simply amazing that with time our people would come to understand the very fabric of this planet solving the intricacies the mysteries the previous generation deemed unknowable.

In contrast i'm jealous of the future. I'll have seemed like a caveman to them.

[–]Bit_Chewy 5 points6 points ago

They really were as simple as it gets in terms of a human conscious.

No, this is as simple as it gets.

[–]inacage 1 point2 points ago

That's the Jackpot!!! upvote for Chewy!

[–]wheatfields 0 points1 point ago

I have a quibble with tribbles!

[–]panamaspace 8 points9 points ago

You are describing the Flintstones.

[–]austro-american 0 points1 point ago

WILMAAAAAAAAAA!!

[–]kdellz 0 points1 point ago

That's a pretty big assumption based on your own biases and experiences, now isn't it?

[–]anoxyGreen green trees 2 points3 points ago

Yeah except today a long days work usually consists of sitting your fat ass in a chair in front of a computer. Back then it was out hunting game and surviving.

[–]LOLumad1013 12 points13 points ago

I work construction. My days are long and hard haha.

[–]anoxyGreen green trees 2 points3 points ago

Yeah, that's why I said usually. I'd much rather be doing hard physical work than sitting in front of a computer or in an office.

[–]wily6 6 points7 points ago

You can.

[–]anoxyGreen green trees 5 points6 points ago

I know. And I do.

[–]unwiddershins 5 points6 points ago

Whoah, dude

[–]TheDiscoBastard 0 points1 point ago

Realistically it's standing all day in a factory or waiting tables all day on foot for most of us

[–]ksa2 0 points1 point ago

Right, but you made that story up based on your experience in the first place.

[–]PillMill 0 points1 point ago

I don't think the caveman would have had to suffer through long days of work far from shelter. They weren't committed to be at a certain work place for X amount of hours like most human workers are

[–]IdLeicaRefundJungle love 0 points1 point ago

And the things they did like make fires and hunt, we have that 'instinct/teaching' in all of us, because of them. I can feel them

[–]TheJoo52 0 points1 point ago

I cri ever tiem

[–]Flamingmonkey923 23 points24 points ago

TIL cavemen had electric lights.

[–]psYberspRe4DdSpace is deep[S] 26 points27 points ago

in the Palaeolithic era

Also: 2001: A Space Odyssey

[–]333kyary 9 points10 points ago

I don't remember seeing that in this movie?

[–]psYberspRe4DdSpace is deep[S] 16 points17 points ago

I never said it was part of it. It's just a damn awsome related movie.

[–]Corsair857Green green trees 3 points4 points ago

Speaking of movies my first thought when I saw this picture was the rave from The Matrix is totally going on inside that mother fucker.

[–]reddit_reposter 3 points4 points ago

I always felt that scene was totally out of place with the movie. I completely forgot about it until I just now read your comment. Damn it!

[–]northsouther83 2 points3 points ago

forget my fagottry gentle sir but it seems I cannot recall what particular scene and motherfucker are your refering to?

Best I can guess is the like 5minutes of ligths and lasers before he enters that withe chamber on which there is God and all that stuff

[–]Corsair857Green green trees 1 point2 points ago

I haven't watched any of them in awhile, but I think it was the huge rave in a cave before they attacked the machines or something alone those lines.

[–]boxingdude 1 point2 points ago

Yah and neo knocked the bottom out of trinity.

[–]live52 1 point2 points ago

Another good movie is Cave of Forgotten Dreams by Werner Hertzog. It's about a cave discovered in 1990s in France, not the Caves of Altamira. The newly discovered cave has beautiful drawings of animals that have been dated at 32,000 years ago.

[–]DecentPizza 0 points1 point ago

You should definitely read the book! The first 3rd or so of the book is about the prehistoric humans, and makes a lot of sense in relation to the rest of the book, especially compared to the movie. I think I remember reading that part was actually a rewrite of another Clarke book/story.

This is one instance, though, where it isn't fair to say the book is better. Arthur C. Clarke and Stanley Kubric wrote the book and screenplay simultaneously together, and each had different visions for the story.

[–]Netzaj 9 points10 points ago

Great. Now I want to live in a cave :(

[–]triceracocks 29 points30 points ago

You're on reddit. You're not living in one already?

[–]soyabstemio 7 points8 points ago

We call it "Mom's Basement" these days.

[–]pizzabyjake 4 points5 points ago

I have my own man cave in my house. Checkmate natives.

[–]inacage 1 point2 points ago

My man cave is out in my shed ( no peace pipe in the house). ... Checkmate r/trees

[–]Netzaj 3 points4 points ago

Good point

[–]Early-Cuyler -5 points-4 points ago

[–]triceracocks -2 points-1 points ago

lol

[–]alexxerth 10 points11 points ago

Actually a business remodels caves to make them liveable, yet still cave like. It adds a door, smooths out sharp edges, artificially strengthens stalagmites (or whichever one hangs from the ceiling) and adds lights to them, and adds a sealant to the walls and ceiling so they don't drip. Typically they use hardwood flooring as well.

[–]sithjustgotreal 13 points14 points ago

Stalactites hang from the ceiling, stalagmites are on the ground.

[–]OnceButNeverAgain 6 points7 points ago

Stalactites hang TIGHT. Stalagmites are the other one.

[–]Tovarisch 2 points3 points ago

Stalagmites might grow to the roof.

[–]morning19 3 points4 points ago

But is then a column!

[–]Ocramzeej66 4 points5 points ago

I always remembered it as "Stalactites hang tight to the ceiling, where Stalagmites might one day reach it."

[–]Kais321 3 points4 points ago

I remembered it because stalagmites have a lot of "Mite" for growing against gravity.

[–]alexxerth 1 point2 points ago

Hooray, I can understand it now.

[–]wavepad4 2 points3 points ago

My favorite: when the mites go up, the tites go down.

[–]nogoodtrying 3 points4 points ago

Please provide a link to such awesomeness.

[–]alexxerth 3 points4 points ago

Can't find the business, here's a cool article about cave homes in general though; http://www.thedailygreen.com/green-homes/latest/cave-homes-461109

[–]EllKayBee 0 points1 point ago

Tights come down, mights go up.

[–]mazinger_z 1 point2 points ago

You can't explain that.

[–]EllKayBee 1 point2 points ago

Just an aide memoir :)

[–]Zedsdeadbaby99 0 points1 point ago

Do you have a link? Couldn't find it on google

[–]alexxerth 1 point2 points ago

On my phone but there's a link below

[–]shuniah 1 point2 points ago

My Dad taught it to me as "if tites (tights) come down then mites grow up"

[–]trava247 5 points6 points ago

Wow

[–]bleyva 5 points6 points ago

WIILLMAAA!

[–]xtreemneo 3 points4 points ago

False.

Flintstones never lived in a cave. They lived in fortified stone houses.

[–]Moxxface 5 points6 points ago

Seeing this made me smile!

[–]guruchild 4 points5 points ago

I never saw a hurricane take out a mountain cave. Perhaps they knew something we don't...

[–]Drawtaru 4 points5 points ago

Tornadoes either.

[–]amberthecat 0 points1 point ago

Ive never seen a hurricane in the desert either...

[–]BlaqkJakHappy trees 4 points5 points ago

It's strange. I kind of yearn for that kind of life.

[–]the_Imp_of_perverse 2 points3 points ago

Me too. My life seems unnatural.

[–]BlaqkJakHappy trees 1 point2 points ago

Our lives seem so artificial now. Technology makes things easier but many seem to forget what it means to truly live.

[–]naturehatesyou 7 points8 points ago

False! There would be smoke.

[–]AtticusLamb 2 points3 points ago

Is it just me, or do these caves look like a bunch of vaginas?

[–]Bit_Chewy 2 points3 points ago

You need to spend some time off Reddit.

[–]AtticusLamb 2 points3 points ago

This is true.

[–]Spr_RED 1 point2 points ago

awesome shot, need more of this

[–]hasslefree 0 points1 point ago

Tsankawi - a truly special place.

[–]Borkiz 0 points1 point ago

And I bet it felt just like now.

[–]rekomSdeeW 0 points1 point ago

ah i remember seeing this a long time ago, its one of my favorite backgrounds

[–]Bixnoodles 0 points1 point ago

Is this part of the ancient city Petra in Jordan?

[–]SuperEli 0 points1 point ago

Who the hell left the lights on?!

[–]BoringUsername1Space is deep 0 points1 point ago

New wallpaper. Thanks!

[–]CHACHI_BONGSBong ripper 1 point2 points ago

They had Reddit back then?

[–]Kiriamleech 0 points1 point ago

Hello new wallpaper!

[–]AlaskaYoungg 1 point2 points ago

I thought that was bitcoins, man.

[–]Josie02 0 points1 point ago

Didn't know cameras existed back then... Hurr Hurr

[–]olafurp 0 points1 point ago

Sir, I think your cave is on fire

[–]cinger 1 point2 points ago

These look a lot like the wind caves near Carmel Valley.

I was once hiking through the Sierras and I came upon these caves so I decided to stop for a rest. When I woke up a few hours later, cold and stiff, I looked out of the cave, and there was a sea of white.

While I was asleep a cloud had rolled in and surrounded the mountain I was on, completely covering the valley below. From my vantage point it looked like I was on the coast of a great white ocean.

Beautiful.

[–]imiiiiik 0 points1 point ago

late from the prom

[–]Katch00Needle professional 0 points1 point ago

Castle Greyskull??

[–]shitfromshino -1 points0 points ago

man I want to live in a cave. but you know, with the internet and stuff.

[–]phnx90 0 points1 point ago

[–]thompsonammo 0 points1 point ago

Am I the only one who is reminded of the cave from Aladdin?

[–]live52 0 points1 point ago

Yoni

[–]aimeerolu 1 point2 points ago

This reminds me of where my friend grew up. She was raised in a polygamist home, but they build their homes into the side of a rock.

See pictures here and here.

[–]TinFoilWizardHat 0 points1 point ago

That's beautiful.

[–]jumbobrain 0 points1 point ago

What does the [pic] mean in the title?

[–]BlaqkJakHappy trees 0 points1 point ago

Just to let people know the content beforehand. [pic] [video] [gif]

[–]MrHashish -2 points-1 points ago

Sooo this says 40.000, does that mean its 40BC?

[–]learn_after_reading 4 points5 points ago

In europe they use a dot in place of a comma and vice versa: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_mark

[–]BlaqkJakHappy trees 3 points4 points ago

And now the downvoters can feel derp.

[–]MrHashish 0 points1 point ago

Thanks, like I said in my other response, sorry for the ignorance. 'Murica

[–]Chaings 3 points4 points ago

Whats going on, why do you have downvotes? Is it that hard to vote when youre high?

[–]MrHashish 1 point2 points ago

Haha thanks, sorry for my ignorance by the way. 'Murica

[–]Chaings 0 points1 point ago

Where does the light come fom?

[–]23_47 21 points22 points ago

fire

[–]RyVal 6 points7 points ago

you can't explain that.

[–]free-improvisation -5 points-4 points ago

How do you light fire in a natural cave, without dying of CO inhalation? Most don't exactly have chimneys....

[–]23_47 16 points17 points ago


<- <- <- <- <- <-^

                |

-> -> -> -> -> FIRE


Airflow diagram in the cave

[–]Moxxface 21 points22 points ago

It seems very obvious that ventialtion wouldn't be a problem with cave entrances that large.

[–]laivindil 10 points11 points ago

You also typically put the fire at the mouth of the cave, depending on ventilation. A side benefit is protection from animals that might want to check out whats going on in said cave.

[–]Amitron89 3 points4 points ago

And, perhaps, insect repellent?

[–]laivindil 0 points1 point ago

Yep.

[–]free-improvisation 1 point2 points ago

Huh, I never new that. Funny how I got downvoted this subreddit for asking a reasonable intellectual question...

[–]laivindil 1 point2 points ago

Meh, people are people. Another thing I didn't mention. Having the fire going is going to cause some drafts, heat rising and sucking in the new air from outside. So you are going to create some air movement just due to the process of combustion. But its all about the size of the cave, the bigger it is the safer it is to have the fire further in. But there are other safety risks, namely heating up the rock around you. Which can be good, cause it will hold the heat and keep you warmer through the night, but they could also crack or explode.

[–]BlaqkJakHappy trees 0 points1 point ago

It's a big ass cave though.

[–]therein -1 points0 points ago

That's what I was thinking. CO is heavier than air so it wouldn't even escape the cave.

[–]justinvt 1 point2 points ago

Carbon monoxide is about the same density as air (it wouldn't stratify, like helium or something), but if it was a byproduct of combustion, it would be heated, so it would be lighter than ambient, atmospheric air/oxygen.