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[–]DeniseDeNephew 12 points13 points ago

This is cool until you get to "1891 - tree cut down". WTF were they thinking?

[–]Esch_A_Sketch 8 points9 points ago

Well when you think about all the other stuff that could've happened - forest fires, termites, some other kind of infestation - I like to think becoming useful to another part of the ecosystem (mankind), isn't actually such a bad fate. Plus it gets displayed with all that history, so you also know what the tree has seen.

The problem is, the picture implies "survived all that stuff, just be cut down by humans." - but it doesn't say where the wood ended up - it could've made a house for someone otherwise living in the cold. We hunted and killed animals for pelts and food, so, cutting down a tree for lumber to build houses is actually just humans trying to survive.

[–]sweeney921 2 points3 points ago

My best guess is that it had died.

[–]realkanadian 1 point2 points ago

What the fuck else were they going to make my desk out of?

[–]ecclectic 0 points1 point ago

There's a book you should read: The Golden Spruce. among other things it offers an interesting take on the history of logging of wood this size.

[–]guywhoishere 0 points1 point ago

One of the oldest tree ever found, a bristlecone pine named Prometheus, was also cut down back in the 60s, but they aren't sure the guy who cut it down understood how special it was. The estimated next oldest tree, Methuselah, is the same species in the same area but its location has not been disclosed for fear of vandalism.

[–]furGLITCH 1 point2 points ago

Profit.

[–]ecclectic 5 points6 points ago

Methuselah, a bristlecone pine tree is roughly 4800 years old.

It's trunk however, is not nearly so impressive.

There's also the Quaking Aspen, but that doesn't really count.

[–]mantei2a 0 points1 point ago

I saw this piece once at the Natural History Museum in London.

[–]Greg713 0 points1 point ago

I wonder where did that piece go to?

[–]spik31 1 point2 points ago

The natural history museum in London has a cut out similar to this on the staircase

[–]Musicray 0 points1 point ago

Damn I just noticed the guy standing next to it

[–]Argit -1 points0 points ago

Why the fuck would they cut such an awesome tree down?

[–]ecclectic 0 points1 point ago

If it's the same one as the one in the London Museum of Natural History, it's a sequoia:

The giant sequoias are having difficulty reproducing in their original habitat (and very rarely reproduce in cultivation) due to the seeds only being able to grow successfully in mineral soils in full sunlight, free from competing vegetation. Although the seeds can germinate in moist needle humus in the spring, these seedlings will die as the duff dries in the summer. They therefore require periodic wildfire to clear competing vegetation and soil humus before successful regeneration can occur. Without fire, shade-loving species will crowd out young sequoia seedlings, and sequoia seeds will not germinate. When fully grown, these trees typically require large amounts of water and are therefore often concentrated near streams.

While they likely didn't fully understand it when they cut it down, the removal of large old trees is a necessity in order for new ones to grow.

[–]Argit 0 points1 point ago

Still makes me sad :/ Such old organisms should be treated with respect.

[–]Sniza 0 points1 point ago

1859 - Birth of the motherfucker who cut this tree.

[–]cheesus_riced 1 point2 points ago

It's interesting that America was discovered 492 years after Leif Ericson landed there.

[–]Swimbo 0 points1 point ago

Especially considering there were people living there when Ericson got there.

[–]Mindcraft74 0 points1 point ago

The last one with "Tree cut down" almost made me cry.

[–]wdafxupgaiz 2 points3 points ago

Survival or not. In nature there is always give and take. The problem with us as humans there is just take and no give. Which is why our echo system is so unbalanced.

[–]ecclectic 5 points6 points ago

Which is why our echo system is so unbalanced.

I think our echo system is unbalanced because some sound waves are absorbed and some are reflected at angles away from the source.

[–]wdafxupgaiz 1 point2 points ago

har har echo, gotcha. ecosystem. sorry internet, so hypocritical

[–]ecclectic 0 points1 point ago

It was intended to be humorous.

What you said has value, though it's likely to be unpopular.

[–]dontListenToJared 0 points1 point ago

Looks like you have a little MAD on your cheek, let me wipe that off for you.

[–]DeusCaelum -1 points0 points ago

The interesting thing to note though is that humanities impact on the environment only truly harms humanity. Nature will live on, albeit in a modified state. We aren't the worst thing to ever happen to this planet, we're the worst thing to happen to our species.

[–]ecclectic 0 points1 point ago

Yes and no.

We have been a veritable boon to viruses and bacterias, fungi and specific plant species but we really are a scourge to other higher life forms having nearly wiped out a number of other vertebrates for a minimal end gain for ourselves.

We will almost certainly be the cause of our own demise, lower life forms will survive and have the opportunity to evolve and try again, but I wager when we go, we'll take out a sizable percentage of the higher life forms with us.

[–]DeusCaelum 0 points1 point ago

But is that a greater impact on the overall planet than say: the Meteorite that covered the planet in dust? An ice age? Sure we will have damaged it in such a way that will permanently alter the ecosphere but so did the various ice ages. What we are doing has happened before, we've done nothing but accelerate the process.

[–]ecclectic 0 points1 point ago

You're correct, there have been multiple mass die offs, meteors, glaciation algae blooms etc. What sets US apart is that we are the first time that a sentient entity has been the cause. (That we are aware of.)

[–]Blitzing 1 point2 points ago

And that we are intelligent enough to not have this fate, yet we chose it.