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Posted in my dorm building. Good information to know. (imgur.com)

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[–]yevoiceofreason 6 points7 points ago

Just so you all know, it's from a Scottish anti-rape charity poster

[–]saltystef 5 points6 points ago

I like that this says "Don't rape" rather than "Don't GET raped." It really would help society to think more like this.

[–]KrumCakez 9 points10 points ago

Rape is bad, mmkay

[–]tanstaafl90 3 points4 points ago

New, or just new account?

Colleges are informing girls of all the place/spaces/ways that potential rape/date rape may occur, and while this is good information, it has the unintended side effect of making all man seem to be potential rapists that just haven't acted on the impulse yet. Most men find this idea, and the very idea of rape, repulsive. This mocks the idea by showing how unrealistic it is for most men.

[–]is_it_a_sandwich 15 points16 points ago

I assume this is a comedic response to all of the rape prevention materials that puts the ownness on the victim rather than on the perpetrator.

[–]elementalist467 15 points16 points ago

Presumably a would-be perpetrator does not have the same rape-preventing aspirations as those who distribute rape-prevention literature. The reason such literature is victim-focused is because it is presumptively easier to get a rape prevention buy in from potential victims than potential rapists.

Under no circumstance is it a rape victim's fault that a sexual assault occurred. This is true regardless of how risk factors where handled by the victim. If a pattern of sexual assaults is occurring with common risk factors (intoxicants, isolation, etc) then informing the potential victim poll how to manage those risk factors is appropriate. This process in no way alleviates a rapist's liability for their crime.

[–]hipsta-smasha 3 points4 points ago

yeah these really throw me off because I'm surprised that there was even a notion that it could be the victims fault in any way...

[–]elementalist467 4 points5 points ago

It is common in some circles. Essentially the victim is blamed for behaving in a promiscuous manner. It is complete nonsense. Sexual assault is no more justified by clothing or association than assault is justified by having an especially punchable face.

[–]hipsta-smasha 1 point2 points ago

While this really only applies to case of a male rapist, i'm gonna take a stab and say that way of thinking comes from men's own fears about the subject. In a lot of ways, the cultural explanation of rape isn't elaborated more than it being normal sex drive gone wrong on the part of the attacker (we know that's not true). Some men may incorrectly see an attack on rape culture as an attack on their natural sexuality, and look to the victims' sexuality to shift the blame. The ironic part is when men do that (the most famous case being the italian denim thing), they paint men in general as uncontrollable sex fiends, unable to separate normal sex drive from a desire to rape, and undermine their whole effort.

[–]Bigbergice -4 points-3 points ago

Thank you Spock, now can we please get back to appreciating the humorous nature of the picture?

[–]elementalist467 2 points3 points ago

You are free to do how ever you like.

[–]hrleaf 8 points9 points ago

ownness

This hurts my brain.

[–]UkrainskaDivchyna 3 points4 points ago

I can see the logic there... you know, it's your responsibility, your own -ness... not bad.

[–]Reductive 1 point2 points ago

This is an eggcorn.

[–]UkrainskaDivchyna 1 point2 points ago

woa.

[–]k-selectride 0 points1 point ago

I want to assume that. But some of the actual stuff you see can be pretty similar to what's in the OP.

[–]trufflesofshuffles 0 points1 point ago

i wasnt sure whether to laugh or err cringe?

[–]antimushroom 0 points1 point ago

I think this is a comedic response to the controversy that met Miami University (OH) a few weeks ago when a "top ten ways to get away with rape" flier in one of their dorms made national news.

Here's an article about it.

[–]Rohm 0 points1 point ago

People should be told not to rape, but being taught self defense is not somehow victim blaming.

[–]elkranger01 4 points5 points ago

At least there aren't any gender specific pronouns in this one

[–]manwith13uses 1 point2 points ago

Here is a poster with some of these on it. It was posted a while back but I couldn'e find the actual post.

[–]SuperBicycleTony 2 points3 points ago

Can't wait for another comment thread full of reasonable people and happy feelings!

[–]dr_spacelad 5 points6 points ago

I'm not sure they're really reaching their target audience. The segment of the population that rapes probably won't read that and go "Well, shit, I didn't know I couldn't do that! Guess I'll stop all that raping now."

[–]Boris41029 4 points5 points ago

No one grows up thinking they will be a rapist. We need to educate everyone and early, not just "the segment of the population that rapes".

[–]Uitwaaien 3 points4 points ago

The point is more to educate one to not rape instead of educating potential victims to be fearful and defensive at all times (advice such as, "don't walk home alone at night," or "carry a rape whistle or pepper spray"). Yes, some rapists are sociopaths that will rape regardless of this, but it's very possible that there are those out there who believe that what they're doing isn't rape. You can't assume intelligence, so might as well state the obvious.

While I do think educating potential rapists exactly what rape is, I don't really think posters like this are the solution. Most of the time it's read as sarcasm.

[–]Shagomir 6 points7 points ago

Male here, was not aware that having sex with a drunk/passed out chick was rape until my 20s. Hollywood and general male culture normalize that sort of thing, but it's still rape.

[–]Flapjack_ 0 points1 point ago

What if you're both drunk?

Is it a two way rape?

[–]Shagomir 6 points7 points ago

While neither party can technically consent, but the party initiating it would usually be considered to be the "rapist", and the passive party would be the "victim". It's the same logic behind giving manslaughter convictions for drunk driving - you are responsible for your actions when drunk, even if you are not in control of them.

Unfortunately, usually the man would be considered the "rapist" as there is an attitude that a man cannot have non-consensual sex, or that women can't initiate with an unwilling partner. I don't want to start a big mensrights/SRS type kerfuffle with this statement, but it seems to be true most of the time.

It's hard to call it rape if both parties are initiating, but it's usually best to be safe and not have sex with anyone new when you're drunk. If you've previously had sex with the person implied consent is a more compelling argument, but is not a complete defense.

[–]Vozka 1 point2 points ago

While I agree with some points you are saying, I still can't get over this:

It's the same logic behind giving manslaughter convictions for drunk driving - you are responsible for your actions when drunk, even if you are not in control of them.

It's not the same logic, you are responsible for your actions when you choose to drive, but not when you choose to have sex, why?

[–]Shagomir 1 point2 points ago

You misunderstood the scenario. In that specific statement, I am talking about a scenario where someone - even someone else who is drunk - actively initiates sex with someone who is too drunk to consent or resist, not the scenario where two drunk people initiate sex with each other.

In this case, choosing to actively initiate sex with an inebriated, non-consenting party is similar to driving drunk, as you are responsible even if you are not strictly in control.

[–]dr_spacelad 1 point2 points ago

Male here, was not aware that having sex with a drunk/passed out chick was rape until my 20s.

Dafuq did I just read.

Clearly I was mistaken - apparently OP's list is useful. I had no idea people thought like this.

[–]Shagomir 2 points3 points ago

Oh, I knew it was shady as heck and gross. I just didn't put two and two together that it was actually rape.

[–]Rohm 1 point2 points ago

I...you weren't aware that having sex with an unconscious person is rape?

[–]Shagomir 2 points3 points ago

Well, I was aware that it was wrong, I just didn't make the connection with rape until my 20's.

Scenario I found myself in too often for comfort: Drinking with a female friend. We get a little frisky, there's makeouts, blowjobs, whatever. She ends up passing out totally naked in my bed before we can make the sex. She was obviously into it before, so it would not be a big jump to just fuck her.

Now, I know that's wrong, and I never took advantage - I usually just went and slept on the couch or the floor so that I wouldn't do something dumb. I just didn't make the connection that it would be rape to take it further.

Does that make any sense at all?

[–]kuhzoo 2 points3 points ago

I read this. Then I remember my ex chatting on IM with her rapist (they were friends before it happened) and him not believing that it was rape. He thought she was willing through the entire thing for years afterward, even after she told him how she felt about it.

To anyone who doesn't like to or has problems saying 'No' ... Practice saying 'No'. Practice letting people know that you don't want something, when you don't want it. My ex couldn't directly say 'no' or 'stop' to stop someone from raping her. Maybe it wouldn't have stopped him; I'm 90% sure it would have.
She shouldn't have needed to say no. He shouldn't have raped her. He shouldn't have cheated on his wife (he was married at the time). She shouldn't have walked into a random, empty parking garage stairwell with him. He shouldn't have brought her to the empty parking garage stairwell.

Men are responsible for not raping anyone and trying to prevent others from raping or being raped.
Women are responsible for protecting themselves and others from rape. (being able to say 'no' and 'stop' is part of this)

[–]unknown_name 0 points1 point ago

After reading, number one seems out if place. It should end with "and then rape them."

[–]mj1176 2 points3 points ago

I might get banished to /r/whateverthatpromysoginysubredditis, but this just reeks of senseless sarcasm. I'm as anti-rape as one ought to be, but whenever I hear women saying things like "it's simple, we teach men not to rape," I can't help but shake my head. Of course, education is never a bad thing, but does anyone really think there's a statistically significant amount of people just raping women because they haven't been taught not to? If someone reeeeeeally wants to commit a rape, they're probably going to commit a rape. I'm not an expert or anything but this kind of sarcasm just doesn't help anyone, and it makes the people who put it out there look fucking stupid. Feminism at its absolute worst.

[–]antimushroom 4 points5 points ago

Not to interrupt your train of thought here, but I believe this is actually in response to this event, which happened at Miami University in Ohio a few weeks ago and made national headlines.

[–]mj1176 -1 points0 points ago

Ha, fuck me I guess

[–]MustardMcguff -1 points0 points ago

Yes. Fuck you indeed.

[–]frances-frak 3 points4 points ago

This list has been circulating since long before the incident at Miami University. It's not about the literal necessity of teaching men not to rape, it's an attempt to point out that rape prevention has largely been put on women ie. don't dress "slutty", or don't walk alone at night. Believing that this is why women get raped assumes that men are naturally rapists and women in these situations are somehow not doing enough to keep themselves safe. Don't you find this insulting? Women do not get raped because of what they wear, or where they choose to go, despite the rampant slut-shaming and victim-blaming that forms popular notions of rape. They get raped because men rape them.

[–]mj1176 1 point2 points ago

rape prevention has largely been put on women

There's a difference between victim-blaming and promoting the need to protect oneself. Of course men aren't naturally rapists, the same way women aren't at fault for being raped. This doesn't change the fact that rape occurs, why not do things to avoid circumstances associated with people getting raped?

[–]frances-frak 3 points4 points ago

I'm not saying that women shouldn't protect themselves. Not at all. But by pushing these measures as the only methods of rape prevention, we assume that it's up to women not to get raped. That is precisely what this list is about: the assumption that "the fact that rape occurs" is unchangeable. Why do we accept this notion?

[–]mj1176 0 points1 point ago

For the same reasons there will always be murder and theft and other shitty things. Humans are animals, and our only distinguishing trait is that we've evolved big enough brains to convince ourselves we can somehow shed our animal nature. We may get a lot better at controlling ourselves and reduce murder or rape or theft until they're nearly unheard of, and that would certainly be something to celebrate. But for the time being, I think it's important to continue to urge women to protect themselves, which includes identifying situations where it would be easier for someone to commit a rape and avoiding those situations.

[–]TIMthrowawayTIMgun -2 points-1 points ago

It's not about the literal necessity of teaching men not to rape, it's an attempt to point out that rape prevention has largely been put on women ie. don't dress "slutty", or don't walk alone at night. Believing that this is why women get raped assumes that men are naturally rapists and women in these situations are somehow not doing enough to keep themselves safe. Don't you find this insulting?

No, see, you're entirely wrong. Women don't get raped because men rape them any more than people get mugged because black people mug them. There's woman-on-man rape, there's woman-on-woman rape, and there's man-on-man rape. These crimes happen because some people do them, not because someone has a penis.

What I find insulting, as a man, is that whoever made this feels that just because I'm male I need to be reminded that I shouldn't rape people. I don't need to be reminded not to kill anyone, after all.

Yes, rape prevention has been put on women. This is a GOOD thing - we're probably never going to get rid of all rapists. reaching out to potential rapists and trying to convince them that rape is wrong is ALSO a good thing. Considering all men equally potential rapists is as wrong as any other kind of sexism or racism. There are better ways to focus the effort.

Women do not get raped because of what they wear, or where they choose to go, despite the rampant slut-shaming and victim-blaming that forms popular notions of rape.

Telling women ways to avoid the attention of rapists is something different entirely than slut-shaming. For one thing, giving them prevention techniques hopefully happens beforehand.

[–]morieu 0 points1 point ago

What I find insulting, as a man, is that whoever made this feels that just because I'm male I need to be reminded that I shouldn't rape people. I don't need to be reminded not to kill anyone, after all.

Except that the flier in question mentioned no genders for the rapist or the victim.

[–]TIMthrowawayTIMgun 0 points1 point ago

Except that the flier in question mentioned no genders for the rapist or the victim.

But the person I was responding to certainly did.

In addition, did you read the other comments? Fliers like this were put up in places like men's bathrooms. It's pretty clear who the intended audience is.

[–]frances-frak 0 points1 point ago

You're right that there are other types of rape. Absolutely. But it is overwhelmingly women that are raped by men. This is a fact. I do not for one second believe that men are naturally rapists, but that is what we are told and keep teaching ourselves by insisting that victims of sexual abuse somehow deserved it by virtue of their own "mistakes", rather than acknowledging that violence against women is systemic. I strongly encourage you to look up some statistics on rape and rape reporting before you state that putting rape prevention on women is a GOOD thing. As you'll see, so far, that hasn't been a GOOD thing. The point is: rape affects everyone. It's not about "reaching out to potential rapists". It's about ending rape culture. It's about shifting consciousness toward basic gender equality, where different genders are granted the same level of assumed safety in public and private spaces.

EDIT: typo

[–]TIMthrowawayTIMgun 0 points1 point ago

You have completely and entirely misunderstood my point. Putting rape prevention on women is as logical as putting money protection on banks.

[–]BallroomBallerina 1 point2 points ago

I think "teaching men not to rape" is not meant to be "rape is bad, mmmkay" but rather drill it into people's heads that "other people have feelings too and deserve your respect" and "how would you feel if that happened to your girlfriend?" and "no really does mean no" and "rape is absolutely sick and good people do not rape" and "if rape really gets you going there are many other people willing to go along with a rape fantasy" the list goes on. There will of course be some people who will still do it, but if people understand why and how it is so terrible, much of it will stop.

[–]mj1176 -1 points0 points ago

I honestly don't believe there's a significant amount of people out there raping because they don't know any better. Again, I'm not an expert, but it strikes me as sort of asinine to think or claim that if a man were just taught "other people have feelings too and deserve your respect" they wouldn't rape. Men who commit rapes are not mentally healthy, and don't represent most men. It's not a simple matter of reasoning with someone, we're talking about people who clearly can't control themselves. I really don't think a statistically significant amount of rape happens because people don't understand why or how it's so terrible. It's a grossly oversimplified way to look at the issue, like the "guns kill people" of rape arguments.

[–]ChyloVG 1 point2 points ago

At my school they posted sexual assault posters on the inside of doors in each of the toilet stalls. I had that thing memorized after a semester.

[–]aanglere 0 points1 point ago

Number 8 could potentially backfire.

[–]You_Better_Smile 0 points1 point ago

So doors and windows have clocks now?

[–]ThrustLust2000 0 points1 point ago

College was a lot better before all of these stupid rules.

[–]Hype_Man -1 points0 points ago

9 is the best. haha

[–]Miami_Metro -1 points0 points ago

I had a friend who went to jail and he was so scared of getting raped that he didn't shower for three years...because he was so busy getting raped

[–]Chubeski -2 points-1 points ago

I actually sat through my college rhetoric (speech) class today and listened to someone talk about rape prevention for 10 minutes while making points like this without intending to be comedic.

It was impossible to take seriously and I feel bad for sitting there with a smirk on my face when it's meant to be a serious topic, but why would you say something so idiotic?

How to prevent rape...don't rape, what an interesting concept!

[–]ScruffyTJanitor -2 points-1 points ago

Live in a co-ed dorm? what you have to do ist stand by the sign with a notebook and pen. When a girl comes buy, look at the poster and pretend to take notes. When she gets closer, nod and say to yourself "hmmm, hadn't thought of that one, good stuff".

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