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[–]J00nj00n 237 points238 points ago

For me it goes like: "tries to tell a story...realizes nobody is listening, but keeps going anyway"

[–]dredder 183 points184 points ago

"And I'm going to stop talking now because no one is listening"...

[–]MightyMight619 118 points119 points ago

And nobody even noticed I stopped talking.

[–]CammyThePenguin 57 points58 points ago

And then I realize I've been trying to hold a legitimate conversation with a cat.

[–]darkops32 15 points16 points ago

If it's a legitimate conversation the body will shut it down, so don't worry.

[–]extra_23 19 points20 points ago

I had a conversations with my lamp all last semester.

[–]xeyj 30 points31 points ago

I love lamp.

[–]mrgreenjeans9 1 point2 points ago

Amber Lamps

[–]ConstipatedNinja 1 point2 points ago

That's a a long conversation.

[–]SanchoDeLaRuse 1 point2 points ago

[–]GuruMeditationError 1 point2 points ago

On the internet, nobody knows you're a lamp.

[–]BlueOak777 4 points5 points ago

Who is actually an empty chair.

[–]Jokkis 2 points3 points ago

A classmate called his desk in seventh grade Mr. Table. He used to talk to it, and when we switched places in the classroom, he got a new desk. So, when everyone were out for recess, he went and got it back. He told me yesterday, and I laughed so fucking hard

[–]Stickygod 1 point2 points ago

Which scares me because I don't have a cat.

[–]Touch_Me_Elmo 6 points7 points ago

Just do more coke. You won't even care whether anyone is listening!

[–]KableKiB 60 points61 points ago

"I'm sorry, did the middle of my sentence interrupt the beginning of yours?"

[–]llcbdavis 14 points15 points ago

i would love to say this but i probably wont.

[–]NoRoses 11 points12 points ago

And then sometimes you find one person to make eye contact with, and then you finish telling the story to them, even of they just walked up.

[–]Echidnae 10 points11 points ago

I cringed reading that, too many memories.

[–]ithinkihelped 11 points12 points ago

Whenever I see this happening in a group that I'm in I always just start looking at the person telling the story so they feel like they are getting heard.

[–]acrosonic 11 points12 points ago

That happens to everyone. It's feels so awkward. Don't know if you should go on or not. I have no problems with talking in groups but it as happened to me too. Of course with the nature of the issue you don't notice it happening to others so it feels terrible when it's us.

[–]williamfbuckwheat 7 points8 points ago

I noticed that introverted people like to be polite and wait their turn until everyone else is not talking to start a conversation. Meanwhile, extroverted people don't usually notice or care if you're in the middle of a conversation or waiting to talk with someone and will come across a room and start blurting out whatever they want to say for the next 5-10 minutes. This ends up creating a situation whereby the introverted person waits forever to speak up and then is too shy or polite to cut off the rude extroverted people who come around and disrupt their conversation once they finally have a chance to speak.

[–]letmeneurothat 6 points7 points ago

Next time you notice no one is listening make it more and more bizarre, like "...and then I stuck my bottle inside a waffle nose, but hege was pent up on bubbles because swingstate blunderfuck couldnt schnip schnap" soo if anyone followed along for it haha

[–]MrGutzeit 3 points4 points ago

Sorry everyone. My friend here is British. I shall translate for you.

"Stuck my willy in a waffle maker, received 3rd degree burns. Couldn't fap fap."

[–]BubbleGumSelf 36 points37 points ago

I then yell and everyone pays attention to me and I forget what I was saying.

[–]monkeylard 12 points13 points ago

JUST DO WHAT I DO, YELL ALL THE TIME

[–]Amanda101389 407 points408 points ago

Then people complain "oh your so quiet, why are you so quiet" when every time I have something to say no one will let me say it

[–]Dovecot 72 points73 points ago

Your problem is that you probably don't recognize the cue to start talking. I used to have this a little bit. You have to read the flow of the conversation and sadly some people are just naturally better at it than others. Also when you do start speaking you need the correct intonation and pitch to catch peoples attention.

There are a lot of subtleties and nuance when it comes to human interaction. A lot more than just making noises with your face.

[–]acrosonic 13 points14 points ago

This is my husband. It's hard for him to get a word in while in groups. When he gets more aggressive it's even more awkward. He is just a couple of beats behind. So it's often slightly out of sync with how the conversation is going. It feels like he is interrupting. At times I get looks like what the hell he always does that.

It's not an intelligence issue, he is smart. He just can't seem to find those microseconds that it's ok too start talking. Everybody moves on and he is waiting. People are usually polite and will stop their sentence and let him get his point in so they can continue. But it seems to stop everything dead while he is talking.

We've talked about it. He knows he's not good at it but he just can't work fast enough to get it. He can't tell who is interrupting and who is just talking back and forth.

Wish I could help and had any suggestions. It could be he has a properly formed sentence and thought and others just throw out blurbs, just a couple of words to add or have a good transition words to start their turn. It's very subtle but he has gotten better over the years.

[–]hoshitreavers 11 points12 points ago

You know what helped me? Practice! Seriously, by removing the filter between my brain and my mouth and just saying what popped into my head any time there was any sort of break in the conversation not only earned me a reputation for wittiness at work, but by paying attention to when the laughs come or when the awkward "um alrights" come I've been able to more accurately judge proper interruption points!

tl;dr run-on sentences are for cool people

[–]Dovecot 3 points4 points ago

Haha, sounds just like me. I find that it's like i'm trapped inside my own head. Whereas others can just experience the moment that bit more and go with the flow, thoughts just seem to get in the way.

My tip would be to just adapt the best you can. Don't be afraid to move on if the topic changes and a really helpful thing to do is to ask questions concerning the topic instead of just making points. This is a useful way to get someones attention, show your interested and also just for people to accept you and feel comfortable with you within conversation.

The problem can be that you haven't been involved in the conversation enough so that when you actually do finally interject with something, people are a little shocked and it can seem like you've interrupted or disrupted the flow.

[–]SecretBlogon 3 points4 points ago

That used to be me too. I'd stare and analyze everyone and had no idea how to get in. But then I realised something. People didn't make sense. Nobody cares about any insightful thing you have to say. At least, not in the beginning, and not in groups. They just want to keep the flow going.

So just go in and say whatever is in your mind. Do not over think it. But of course that's difficult to get used to.

So first, instead of thinking of what to say, I learned how to react. Don't try to contribute to the conversation. Try to react. When someone says something that's supposed to be funny, learn to laugh with everyone else. When somebody says something surprising, learn to look as surprised as everyone else and make a surprised noise. Like, "Oh!" or something. If everyone is impressed, try reacting likewise and say, "That's Impressive!" as a reaction. Of course it's an obvious thing to say, but people like pointing out obvious things. It's not smart, but it's not exactly dumb when people aren't looking for insight, just a reaction. It doesn't have to be fully auditory, it could be facial, or just a small noise.

Remember to not over think it. Just feel the conversation and spout reactions whenever everyone else does. Do not try to stand out. Try to blend in and be in step.

I did that for the longest time. And the more I did that, the more I got used to the beat of different conversations. And slowly, you'll learn when to input expected one liners, like "That's gross." and someone might turn to you and nod in agreement. And there, that's your first step to someone paying attention to what you have to say.

Then slowly, you'll get more used to the beat, and can experiment with longer responses, and see how long you can hold the attention. If you lose it, then you've lost it. Don't try to continue it. Look at where the conversation is and continue reacting till you feel that leeway to input another long response.

Also, learn to read different groups of people. Different sets of friends have different beats. There are times where people do look for a discussion and insight, but when you're in a group and having fun, people don't care too often.

There were times where I'll remember the different conversations, and think about them as I make my way home. It's like a review of what happened. What have I learned? That sort of thing. I'd think of what would have been a funny thing to say, or what would have been a good place to say this or that and try to remember to have this response next time this sort of situation plays out. Try to watch people and try to remember who likes what, who responses to what. This is when thinking deeply about the conversation might work. It's like homework. Learn the theory now, and apply the practical later (without over-thinking. That's what the theory portion is for).

Of course, as you get used to it, and am able to read the conversation and reply without over-thinking, you can slowly allow yourself into your head again, and quickly think (not over-think) of interesting things to say on the spot, ways to contribute or even steer the conversation a certain way, make people laugh, tell stories and eventually stand out.

This is what worked for me. I wouldn't say I'm a great conversationalist or anything, I'm still learning as I meet different types of people and flounder from time to time. But I'm much better with people now.

Although, having deep meaning relationships is a whole thing altogether. I don't know how to do that. Most of the people I know are colleagues and acquaintances (useful contacts, basically) when you have group outings and stuff. I only have about 5 close friends from school that I constantly meet up with.

I've accidentally rambled on for too long. I wasn't planning that. I don't know if what I did will work for anyone else, but I've gained a skill by doing this, and hopefully others might too.

TL;DR Stop over-thinking. You have to first attempt to blend in before you can start standing out.

[–]bobdole5 31 points32 points ago

To add onto this, its also important to recognize, especially in larger groups, that you won't always have a good opening and its better to just let the conversation carry on naturally to something else rather than you blurting out that awesome thought you had, or worse dragging the conversation backwards when you do have a chance to speak but they've already moved on. Try to stick with the conversation and have new thoughts, don't brood over that one thing you had but never got to say.

[–]tearr 1 point2 points ago

also if you really "need" to go back on a topic, wait until the new topic cools down a little bit. And start talking be saying you are going back on a diffirent topic, Dont just start blurting out on the previous topic.

Not reccomended to do often, but there are times when going back can be good.

[–]reddit_madness 1 point2 points ago

Yes! The other nice part of this is that you will have that original thought queued up next time the topic comes around and you can seem like a genius.

[–]dietotaku 1 point2 points ago

its also important to recognize, especially in larger groups, that you won't always have a good opening

i've been in groups of 3 people, myself included, where i never had an opening because the other 2 people were so on top of each other's sentences and ignored me when i did try to jump in.

[–]Guardsman30 4 points5 points ago

There's a delicate balance between not being assertive enough, and recognizing your friends are assholes. If you're on good terms with them, call them out on it! If they're acquaintances or colleagues, spend more time trying to get to know their style of communication. If they just override and ignore you every time you speak though, even after you've put effort into understand the social dynamic and waiting for lulls or pauses, then they're just assholes.

[–]Dicethrower 5 points6 points ago

You mean not everyone talks like this?

[–]TitaniumTurtle 2 points3 points ago

I wrote a similar response a few moments ago. I think that becoming one of those people who are good at reading the flow of conversations was one of the hardest things I have had to overcome in my social life. (This sentence is killing me, is it a run-on?) It took me years to perfect conversation reading, and I went through hell when it came to awkward moments like mentioning the probability of a terrorist attack to people swooning over a trip to Hawaii.

Your response is awesome.

[–]Dovecot 2 points3 points ago

I often throw non-sequiters into conversation for laughs. It used to be unintentional but now I've actually managed to integrate it and make it fun.

[–]AffectiveMan 1 point2 points ago

By all means, please enlighten us on how conversation reading occurs.

[–]TitaniumTurtle 3 points4 points ago

In the most generic, but honest, response; it took practice. I spent a lot of group conversations just sitting back and listening. You will notice a general flow in almost all conversations, they have a certain bounce to them.

The first thing I always do is identify the alpha personality in the group. This person is the one who holds the group together, if (s)he walks away, there are usually echoes of "I need to get back to work" and the conversation ends. Don't try to keep it together, just let them go.

One thing I have learned about group conversations (excluding debates) is there is usually a final goal and that is happiness. I think of the conversation like it is a bon-fire, people keep throwing more and more fuel on top of it until it is a glorious burning pile of warmth and hapiness. Watch them build this up, this is the point where you definitely don't want to interrupt but you do want to make sure you are smiling/laughing. This is a pivotal moment in conversation and an awkward interjection could bring it all crashing down. This is also where many intuitive introverts get interrupted if their anecdote is particularly verbose. All this interruption may be is someone trying to save the moment from getting awkward/downbeat.

This one is a bit obvious but, obeserve what the group is talking about and hear what others think. If they are all talking about how great puppies are, chances are they don't want to hear bad things about puppies.

I'm typing this up a bit fast (since I'm supposed to be working) so I know I missed a few points and it may be awkward as hell to read. My simple key point is to just practice sitting back and listening, think deeply about the effect your statement will have on the conversation and as much as is hurts, just don't say anything while practicing. After the conversation, reflect on how your story would have steered the conversation and you may be surprised at the insight your hindsight can provide. I may be able to provide more a little later, but I need to hurry up and look like I'm doing work.

[–]DrunkRawk 1 point2 points ago

Superb response! Very much mirrors my own experiences and observations when it came to trying to force myself to be more adept at socialization. I'd add that it also helps to pick your battles in terms of topics. If you don't know squat about a particular topic -like, in my case, anything sports, cars, commercials etc. - don't be afraid to be the guy who just listens, laughs and asks questions of the storytellers.

[–]NOXIOUSB4C 1 point2 points ago

Nailed it.....I sit and wait for my opportunity to come sometimes. And when it does, speak from the gut if you're somewhere where it noisy or crowded.

[–]f_myeah 194 points195 points ago

Yes. I hate this. My reply?

"I'm not quiet, everyone else is really loud."

[–]whatwatwhutwut 63 points64 points ago

I once responded "Well, I just figured you were doing enough talking for the both of us."

[–]TimFinnegan 15 points16 points ago

That'll show them that we're not socially awkward!

[–]njstein 26 points27 points ago

The insecure have realized if you talk over most people, the majority will back down. The interesting times are when two of those individuals meet in head to head conversation.

[–]electric_paganini 10 points11 points ago

You end up with two separate conversations with themselves.

[–]Verblocity 29 points30 points ago

And that, little Billy, is how the American political process works.

[–]hoshitreavers 17 points18 points ago

My coworker does this, but I am a stubborn bitch. I will fit in and subsequently repeat the first word of my sentence every millisecond she uses to draw breath, and then finish whole phrases when she pauses to wipe the froth from her mouth. I once repeated the same 5 or 6 words for almost 5 minutes before she shut her gorram mouth long enough for me to make my point.

[–]-naut 1 point2 points ago

I swear I thought your name was hot shit rivers

[–]oaky 130 points131 points ago

advice: you would sound like a bitter bitch if you said that. Everyone would wrinkle their brow and definitely NOT throw a pity-party for you unless you are speaking to your mom. I would just be more assertive and speak LOUDER. You can't be weak guys!!

[–]f_myeah 35 points36 points ago

Except you don't whine it like you're being ignored. It's a rebuttal to the "you're so quiet" remark. Because it's true, people are loud and generally blather on.

[–]8906 1 point2 points ago

Fuckin' tell me about it. Three of my co-workers think that I'm their personal "Tell-everything-that's-on-my-mind-at-all-times" guy. I honestly don't give a shit about 99% of what they're saying. Prevents me from doing work, and it's uninteresting. Some people just have way too much stuff to say.

/rant

[–]Sryzon 14 points15 points ago

It depends how you say it. I think you're imagining it said in a whiny tone, but it's supposed to be philosophical/insightful.

[–]whatwhatwhat82 21 points22 points ago

Exactly. You can't say it straight like, "I'm not quiet, Everyone else is really loud." You say "I'm not quiet," meaningful pause "Everyone else," meaningful pause "is really," stare into eyes "loud."

Then again, they might interrupt you during one of your meaningful pauses.

[–]Shittypunsrshitty 1 point2 points ago

only Shatner could pull that off.

[–]prostate_massage 19 points20 points ago

this must be this week's false conception of "alpha-ness" on reddit

[–]pineapplol 7 points8 points ago

Advice: saying "oh your so quiet, why are you so quiet" is equally as insulting, and demands rebuttal.

[–]SyrupLicker 23 points24 points ago

You're getting downvotes for pointing out a hard truth.

[–]f_myeah 50 points51 points ago

No, he's getting downvotes because his internal monologue is whining it.

It's not: "Waahh, everyone is so Looouudd..."

It's: "Fuck your preconception of how much I should talk. I'll let you know when I'm interested"

[–]scootter82 2 points3 points ago

I agree with this sentiment.

[–]igorrrrr 1 point2 points ago

And again; if that's your attitude toward casual human interaction/conversation, then you're even worse off than the quiet guy/girl. Are we here to amuse you?!

[–]Fatally_Flawed 16 points17 points ago

That's brilliant, I'm going to start using that instead of 'I just don't really like other people'.

[–]GAFMisat0 3 points4 points ago

I like this.

[–]say37 1 point2 points ago

I always give them the "I'm not quiet, I'm just a deep thinker." It's kind of from Gangs of New York.

[–]creepymatt 19 points20 points ago

Are you me?

[–]NoGoodIDNames 1 point2 points ago

No, Matt, I am.

And I have to say I'm disappointed in how creepy we are.

[–]ForeverAvailable 8 points9 points ago

Ok, so this is a problem I had when I was growing up. See, when I was a lot younger, I was loud and obnoxious and I wasn't really one of those quiet kids who had always been quiet. But when I started to mature I made a fool out of myself too many time and kinda got scared out of talking due to embarrassment. This left me with a unique perspective on life. I had been a loud talking kid but had abandoned that track.
Fast forward to high school. I was still pretty quiet and I struggled a lot because I felt like I wanted to contribute to conversations but my friends didn't expect me to so I'd just get interrupted and shut down. Now I felt like I was stuck being a quiet kid because I'd spent so much time being a quiet kid! Eventually my older louder friends graduated and by the time I was a senior I was a pretty normal guy. Actually, I was one of the loud ones! But I hated to hear others getting interrupted, so if a quieter person tried to say something that got drowned out I'd ask them "what were you trying to say before so and so rudely interrupted you?" or something of that nature to quiet others and give them a chance to say what they're saying. Then I usually try to keep going with them and get them involved by asking follow up questions to what they said or by just generally playing them up to be heroes and comedians because those people really just don't get enough time to be heard, but if you take the time to listen and give them respect you'll love what you hear. Then I know that that guy or girl goes home glowing because they successfully contributed to the conversation and someone took the time to listen to what they said, laugh if it was funny and give them some respect!

TL;DR I've seen both sides of the fence; being a quiet kid unable to speak and being a loud kid. Now that I'm older I tell people to shut up when the quiet people have something to say and are getting interrupted. Then I help them continue contributing to the conversation if they are willing and I try to make them feel like the funniest most insightful person by giving them the same respect everybody else seems used to getting.

[–]TitaniumTurtle 3 points4 points ago

Actively listen and smile. It will help with the "oh your so quiet, why are you so quiet" question.

[–]tearr 1 point2 points ago

look at the people talking.

[–]steeelez 1 point2 points ago

this is probably the most helpful advice in the whole shebang.

also if you're interested in taking a more academic hyper-analytical approach there's the topic of "turn-taking" in discourse analysis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversation_Analysis#Turn-taking_organization

also, * 're ( fuck me )

[–]Cintiq 9 points10 points ago

It's not that they won't let you say it, it's that you don't have the body language down to indicate that you have something you want to say.

[–]Dark-Fx 5 points6 points ago

Yeah, OP needs to start growing exponentially louder when someone interrupts him until they stop talking.

[–]da-sein 8 points9 points ago

This works super well, anyone watch the presidential debates? Listen to what they do when the moderator tries to interrupt. Just do that and everyone will listen to you, no joke!

[–]samuel33334 1 point2 points ago

Why don't you guys just talk louder??? its not that hard, i could understand if your a smaller person you may not be able to get as loud as some other people, but come on your gonna let someone keep interrupting you, you should say something, but don't continue to be quiet be assertive and use your big boy voice.

[–]sardonically 37 points38 points ago

I wish i could tell introverts that this is normal, other people experience this... but I would have to do it one at a time.

[–]Aratar2011 1 point2 points ago

My ex-girlfriend would always get upset about being interrupted. Like, irrationally and sometimes violently so. I never understood it. This happens to everyone. That's how group conversations work.

[–]5thnameitried 83 points84 points ago

This has literally been happening to me my entire life even by my family. I honestly thought I was the only person that experienced this. And I still don't know why I always get interrupted.

[–]MQM5K 32 points33 points ago

Easy fix. Tell hem to shut the fuck up. You don't even have to say it loud, they'll hear you.

[–]njstein 46 points47 points ago

Be bold and stern, yet fair and compassionate. If they keep hijacking the conversation just slap them across the face with a rolled up newspaper and tell them, "NO!"

[–]marty_m 7 points8 points ago

If that fails, swift punches to their throats should get their attention.

[–]hdooster 12 points13 points ago

YES please do! I'm one of those people who loves to talk, and if I'm not actively paying attention on 'not talking too much / interrupting', I get caught up in the moment and forget. Afterwards I feel like a dick, even though I meant no harm whatsoever.

[–]Anemona_anonima 1 point2 points ago

I've had to do that. I don't like it, but there's a guy I work with who believes himself as "the alpha" that always interrupts everybody. When he tries to do that to me I say "DUDE SHUT UP, I'M TALKING, WAIT FOR YOUR TURN". It's not a nice thing to say, but some people really need to respect other people. He believes that what he just thought is more important than what I'm saying to him. His excuse is that if he doesn't say it in that instant, he forgets. I don't give a shit, just respect.

[–]TitaniumTurtle 15 points16 points ago

If you spend a lot of time around groups, sit back for a few group conversations and watch how things flow; don't speak, just watch. There is always a time when it will be appropriate to dispense your anecdote. If the person with a clearly alpha disposition is speaking, respect that situtaion and don't attempt to interject. The trick is to know exactly when to strike and people may find your story entertaining in relation to the circumstances. Another point, if you think that the story will be awkwardly out-of-place or tedious, you may want to think about preserving the flow of the conversation and avoiding speaking out at all.

The trick to not getting the "your always so quiet" statement is to actively listen to others, if you look down at the floor and act hurt when you can't get in a word, people will see you as meek or sheepish. Actively listen and smile and your group conversations will roll a little more smoothly.

I am pretty far into the introvert side of the spectrum. I had to pick up these habits in order to function in my military and civilian job. Yeah, people don't think of me as the "fun party guy" but they also don't think of me as the "wierd quiet guy". When I do speak, I make sure my voice is strong and that usually leads to my opinion and anecdotes being heard and respected. It also helps to be well versed in your native language but not to be pedantic, no one likes a pedant in general conversation.

Edit: On the note of the "no one likes a pedant in general conversation" line, this is usually something I see go wrong for many fellow introverts. When things get awkward due to someone using big words and talking about things we don't understand, there will always be a person who will attempt to loosen the tension by cutting you off and offering a lighter, more simple story. I'm not saying this is what may be happening in your situation, but it is something that intuative introverts have to be careful of in groups.

[–]HighGuy92 2 points3 points ago

As a fellow introvert, and I say that with Myers-Briggs testing behind it, your advice is spot-on. I've never been the "awkward, quiet guy" but I do find many moment in parties or other gatherings where I just don't have much to say or feel like contributing to group conversations. I've been studying abroad this past semester and the biggest thing I've learned in my journey is how to talk to people. Like I said, I've never been awkward, but I'm much more comfortable talking with people than I used to be, and it came from practice, practice, practice. To anyone who's reading this as advice, the best way to get someone's interest and make new friends/love interests, is to ASK QUESTIONS! I can't stress that enough, ask them questions about their interests, hobbies, family, work, etc, and you're already more than halfway there.

[–]Dovecot 2 points3 points ago

Also not being the guy who speaks all the time can allow you to censor yourself and only speak when you have something genuinely worthwhile to say. The ladies like a sexy mystery man. Failing that, rape.

[–]GenericPerson1 10 points11 points ago

That always happened to me, especially with family, and now suddenly I'm meeting people who don't do it. And if they occasionally do, they apologize and ask me what I was saying. And I'm all like..... i think i love you.

[–]ColonicIrritation 5 points6 points ago

I know that feel, my family does it too as well as just about everyone I know or meet. It's tricky enough being an introvert but on the rare occasion I am in a jovially extroverted and chatty mood it's going swimmingly until all these twats keep interjecting mid-sentence and speaking louder than I - so I immediately get cunt-punted back into my shitty quiet place and stay there for the remainder of the day.

[–]IAmNoneYa 1 point2 points ago

You're never the only person to experience anything ever

[–]Prownilo 1 point2 points ago

"i'm sorry, I didn't mean to have the middle of my sentence interrupt the beginning of yours"

[–]ResearchToBeDone 1 point2 points ago

You're not. I also find it bewildering. Some people just don't seem to pay any attention to conversational threads that aren't their own. It's mysterious to me, because in my family no one ever talks over other people; conversation is generally easy and awesome. But out in the Real World, there are a staggering number of people who either don't notice or don't care when they're interrupting people all the time (I honestly don't know if it's that they don't know or that they don't care, because it seems to happen with people who are generally considerate as often as it happens with people I think might just be dicks). It's utterly baffling to someone who grew up in a context where it never happens, because it's not difficult in the slightest (to me, at least), to be aware of when other people are trying to say things.

[–]Angstromium 52 points53 points ago

If you really want to talk and have people pay attention, then you need to really want that to happen. In socially inept people there tends to be a personal justification of "I refuse to play this silly game" You may think : why can't people just listen to me? My thoughts are valid!

However, they are only flagged as valid to you, the thinker. To others they come with no status marker, if you present the thought with your internal voice the one you use to talk to yourself, then no status is necessarily conveyed. People judge it as low priority.
All that shouting and gesticulating that the other "rude" people are doing? That's crude monkey social signals for this is important. Of course they will priority override your low status signal.

in a conversation your partners are engaged in a social game (which you are also in), and you are losing at. If you really want to enjoy the game you MUST learn the rules, and learn how to cheat. Learn how to understand the power flow of conversation, and if necessary to dominate a conversation. For shy and introverted people this is as painful as a fat kid hitting the gym. However - life is long, and lessons here learned once will last a lifetime.

  • take a standup comedy or public speaking course. Learn some social tricks & techniques.

You need to learn conversational Kung Fu.

[–]stuckonusername 4 points5 points ago

jesus man this needs more upvotes, it was like a slap in the face

[–]daft_monk 4 points5 points ago

this is true and well-conveyed, yet seems like bullshit. in other words, it's really good conversation!

[–]FragdaddyXXL 12 points13 points ago

[–]nikita2206 49 points50 points ago

You just need to speak louder. I know it, been there.

[–]DrKaoz 15 points16 points ago

This deserves more upvotes. This is the main reason, amongst speaking in a monote voice without any rhetorical pause.

[–]stuckonusername 7 points8 points ago

what do you mean by monote exactly, a typo for monotone or somebody whos sounding amzed or shocked?

[–]DrKaoz 1 point2 points ago

yes, monotone, sorry ^

[–]hollingsworthless 3 points4 points ago

What do you mean by amzed exactly? A typo for amazed or somebody who sounds srprised or shocked?

[–]stuckonusername 1 point2 points ago

haha kudos for the shitty joke, let me be your first upvote brother

[–]hollingsworthless 2 points3 points ago

That's the only kind of joke I know how to tell...

[–]suprastang 5 points6 points ago

If someone is interrupting me I speak louder and with more conviction until they shut the fuck up. Once I'm done I say,"Sorry, go on."

[–]chodechugging 1 point2 points ago

Not really louder, just from the diaphragm.

[–]Toastsx 6 points7 points ago

fuck that, I don't want to compete to get a word in. It's really not worth it.

[–]reddit_madness 1 point2 points ago

Usually it's not competing, you just need to meet a certain minimum threshold of volume for people to pay attention. If someone really is yelling over you then yeah they're a douche.

[–]feng_huang 1 point2 points ago

Right. Who wants to have a competition when all you wanted was a conversation?

[–]TheYuNak 6 points7 points ago

I hate it when two people suddenly starts talking to me about two completely different things! Who the hell am I suposed to listen to??

[–]Apf4 58 points59 points ago

As an awkward penguin myself, I find I can only contribute to a conversation one on one. I've stopped trying to talk in groups because number 1 what groups talk about bore me and number 2 I really don't have anything to say about the subjects they talk about. If I end up having something to contribute to a group conversation I look the other person talking over me in the eye and I keep talking. I don't know if this makes me an interrupting asshole, but in all honesty it feels good when that person stops talking and listens to me.

[–]Fatally_Flawed 39 points40 points ago

I'm terrible in groups too. I find that if I do try to add to the conversation, and actually manage to get a word in, once I realise everyone is listening to me I rush through what I'm saying and cut out vital bits just to get to the end and get the attention away from me. Awkward.

[–]Pabrunthhu 16 points17 points ago

pretty much this.

everyone is staring at me don'tfuckup don'tfuckup

[–]RhinoMan2112 1 point2 points ago

Brain: Okay man, you got this! The converstation is on you!

... SHUT. DOWN. EVERYTHING

[–]Pabrunthhu 1 point2 points ago

So this one time I... uh... so i was.... shit, what was I gonna say? Oh yeah! uhhh.......

[–]unconventionalspork 1 point2 points ago

I find it easier to talk in a group, I find it hard to maintain eye contact with a single person and I can switch between people easily.

[–]tannersnotreal 1 point2 points ago

I do the same. Every time I try to contribute to group conversations it just ends in terrible awkwardness, and I find it's not even worth trying anymore.

So now I'm that awkward kid that sits at the lunch table but doesn't say anything the whole time.

[–]polite_alpha 4 points5 points ago

The reason people talk about stuff that doesn't interest you is that there are some topics which are good for conversation. Sports, weather, and so on. Usually, these are topics where there's little to no potential for conflict.

If you start talking about religion or politics, which may be more interesting, people tend to inadvertently ignore you.

[–]SadZealot 7 points8 points ago

No potential to argue about sports? LIES!

[–]Mr_Fahrenhe1t 1 point2 points ago

Maybe your friends just don't have the same hobbies as you do. Consider looking up subreddits or local communities for your interests, and finding people to talk to about them with?

[–]Wihlsens 5 points6 points ago

We have a guy at work who I've realized is like this, I think he's a bit shy and doesn't want to step on anyones toes. The result is that he always lets everyone else speak first and only says something between topics. He has some great ideas and is a smart guy so I've started asking him directly what his view is. Hopefully this way he'll gain more confidence. I think the problem is that he doesn't think his ideas are as good as others when in reality it's the other way around a lot of the time.

[–]iLoveKPop 9 points10 points ago

That's when you bust out a random "So I suck dicks" and see if anyone notices. At least one person always does.

[–]marty_m 1 point2 points ago

and then you two wander somewhere isolated and complete the thought.

[–]chaos_switch 3 points4 points ago

Either wait for another gap or just keep stubbornly going. I was there first, damn it!

[–]neohylanmay 5 points6 points ago

Which of course runs the risk of the topic changing. Fell victim to that manyatime :(

[–]Freddie_AppsHero 4 points5 points ago

Too late. Once the other guy start talking over you, they all shift their attention to him.

[–]TheOldOak 4 points5 points ago

So stop hanging out with Kanye?

[–]mikeBreault 3 points4 points ago

You aren't talking loud enough. People with confidence speak as loud as they damn well please.

[–]zpeed 3 points4 points ago

I guess you need that Calvin mentality to drive you maybe?

[–]BurmecianDragoon 8 points9 points ago

I've had this alot. once I got irate and interrupted my friend who always did this to me one night. This continued for an hour or so and he explodes with the 'stop interrupting me!' crap. At which point I just explained to him I was doing what he did to me all the time. And my other friend backed me up on it. Much smugness was felt that night.

Of course the effect of this clarity only lasted that one night and he was back to the same interrupt conversion manner the next time we met.

[–]Verteros 11 points12 points ago

It's obnoxious. I have way too many friends who will blabber on and interrupt me before I even get 2 words out. Most of the time I'll wait patiently for them to finish, and when they finally do, the topic is dead or they are all walking off.

[–]hollingsworthless 6 points7 points ago

This. I think we're too respectful of conversation etiquette and subsequently suffer because of our courtesy.

[–]Jo-Diggity 3 points4 points ago

You guys are living in an excuse bubble. Not judging, I used to feel the same way. Truth is, in a group (of guys especially) the etiquette doesn't call for "share and care". You've got to go against your intuition to be well mannered, and embolden yourself. Your friends will respect you for it, and it feels good to get your balls back.

[–]hollingsworthless 2 points3 points ago

I completely agree. I also think I should have been clearer and said perception of conversation etiquette. And not intending to add another excuse, but I also have a physiological response to situations like this. Anytime there's the possibility of interaction with other people specifically one where I have to be assertive, my heart races, blood pumps through my head, and I get all shaky. I have a tough time playing poker for this reason as this happens when I'm sitting on a halfway decent hand. It's very hard to control even with breathing techniques.

[–]Jo-Diggity 1 point2 points ago

Well your physiology is definitely excusable. You can't decide to stop having those involuntary reactions.

I have some first hand experience with social anxiety. I'm not sure how my issues compare to yours, but I was able to improve. I hope you find a way as well...you seem polite and intelligent, and imo we could use more people like you speaking up in the world!

[–]hollingsworthless 1 point2 points ago

Thanks! I appreciate the encouragement.

[–]EmperorKira 2 points3 points ago

I've figured what you have to do is talk loudly first, and then you can become a little quieter. You also have to look at everyone in the group in the eye, so nobody loses eye contact and starts wanting to say/think something else.

[–]GayestBitch 2 points3 points ago

Speak up.

[–]jpollard87 2 points3 points ago

As a former socially anxious person, I noticed I too had this problem and this is why:

  1. I would bring up something that isn't about the immediate conversation (aka off topic). 2. While I may have an intelligent thing to say, I didn't say it in an assertive way (aka confidence). 3. Posture. Keep your spine straight, even lean back a little bit. It shows comfort and confidence.

tl;dr: unfortunately it's not what you say but how you say it.

[–]Bad_Mothafucka 2 points3 points ago

When this happens, you have to take charge of the floor. Speak up. Say something like "I don't appreciate being interrupted." or "Let me finish first." Even if they don't value what you're saying in any capacity, at least demonstrate you expect to be treated with a certain standard of respect. If they won't offer you this, as in they keep interrupting you, then you leave the situation and if asked why you tell them in as plain of words as possible. People will heed for assertiveness, even if it makes you look like an asshole.

[–]zuka_zanamee 4 points5 points ago

Just let them keep talking till they realize you're just sitting there smiling and nodding, if they don't care then really the conversation wasn't a conversation at all and they weren't looking for an opinion from someone else anyway. If they were they will tend to realize their mistake and ask you to speak your mind, though I've had them just keep cutting me off again after that, just quiet back up and look them in the eyes, smile and nod again till they stop.

[–]Penny_is_a_Bitch 14 points15 points ago

All that means is you're around assholes that don't listen anyway. Get in a new group and try again.

[–]FatKidThuggin 5 points6 points ago

Or OP is bad at participating in conversations.

[–]sn5484 3 points4 points ago

I hate this shit. In a group of people I’m usually the only one getting interrupted. What is with that? I’m not whispering, I talk at the appropriate sound level of the conversation, I keep with the topic, I try to make it interesting. What is it about me that makes people think it’s ok to interrupt me? If I don’t have anything to say I won’t talk. But when I do, shut up and let me talk.

[–]captchyanotapassword 3 points4 points ago

Even worse: they interrupt you to say what you were going to say!

[–]Can_not_Be_Repaired 6 points7 points ago

Say to the person that cut in "I'm sorry, I didn't realize that the middle of my sentence was interrupting the beginning of yours"

[–]tweezyb 0 points1 point ago

It helps to have something interesting to say. Most people don't honestly.

[–]whatwatwhutwut 1 point2 points ago

It's weird. TYPICALLY, no one will be listening, but there are certain people who are more interested in what I have to say than what other people have to say, and it seems like almost entirely without fail that if I talk, they will ignore the other voices.

[–]APairofDocks 1 point2 points ago

You have to be sneaky and find those places to cut in. Your fault for failing at that, you awkward penguin, you

[–]CallMeAnEngineer 1 point2 points ago

Speak in a tone that commands respect.

[–]piv0t 1 point2 points ago

speaking involves more than just talking

[–]I_Fuck_Hamsters 1 point2 points ago

Try again.

[–]Godswrath 1 point2 points ago

Problem with over active inner dialogue means thoughts have to be filtered before vocalised.

The longer you sit in silence within a group, the more valuable your words become.

[–]CyberDagger 2 points3 points ago

Yeah, but by the time the words are at max value, you have to discard them anyway because the topic already changed.

[–]lazyslacker 1 point2 points ago

This happens sometimes, but I find more often that on the occasion that I do open my mouth to talk, everyone is interested and stops what they're saying to listen. I guess it's because I don't always have something to say, so they figure whatever I'm about to say is somewhat important.

[–]sparklesdelicious 2 points3 points ago

i believe you have my stapelr...

[–]Gimpass 1 point2 points ago

Lol my friend does this, so me and my other friends just interrupt him every so often for teh lols

[–]oggleboggle 1 point2 points ago

Story of my life.

[–]llcbdavis 1 point2 points ago

this is why i quit talking. basically even if they shut up for 2 seconds they're not listening, just waiting for their turn to talk some more.

[–]Spartanwar 1 point2 points ago

I FUCKIN HATE THAT SHIT> LET ME SPEAK GOD DAMN

[–]mvduin 1 point2 points ago

One thing I try to do to head this off when I see it happening is direct the conversation back to the person who's been interrupted. Raises their confidence and if they say something good it stops the others from interrupting them in the future.

To my mind the biggest reason this happens is people think you'll say something uninteresting or make a generally poor contribution to the chat.

[–]MoreRITZ 1 point2 points ago

Speak up

[–]quantumsheep 1 point2 points ago

Just wondering, are you responding to what they are talking about, or are you waiting to try to 'say your piece' and tell your own story?

Lots of people make the mistake of telling their own story, instead of contributing to the story that's already happening. If you're waiting for a lull in the conversation to 'say your piece', then you're not really listening and engaging with your friend's story.

People love when you engage with their story. Next time you want to get involved in the conversation, maybe try to ask a question about their story that they're telling. When you show you've been listening to them with interest, then you can follow up with your own story.

[–]kenn4000 1 point2 points ago

these days, non internet socializing seems to be the act of talking louder than everyone else while not listening to what they are saying.

[–]pugwalker 1 point2 points ago

This is a sad thread. You literally just have to interrupt them back to finish your point. Group conversations can be slightly awkward if there's a pause after each person speaks. Interruptions are natural to conversational flow.

[–]Amiableintrovert 1 point2 points ago

This happens EVERY time I try to talk. That or the other person says nothing to contribute.

[–]MrDoubleE 1 point2 points ago

That's why I hate talking to more than 3 people at a time.

[–]idma 1 point2 points ago

Fortunetly, its because the people you're with are already attention hogs or just plain inconsiderate. You may think you're introverted and what not, but people will actually look at you as the mature one. You listen to others, not barge into everybody's conversation

[–]demonic87 1 point2 points ago

You aren't socially awkward they are just rude.

[–]lilbootz 2 points3 points ago

People who interrupt.. one of my biggest pet peeves :(

[–]gak001 1 point2 points ago

Greg?

[–]dredder 2 points3 points ago

This is a Greg speaking.

[–]FragdaddyXXL 1 point2 points ago

short for: Gregory?

[–]frownykid 1 point2 points ago

More like Atamanan.

[–]Bipolarbear_au 0 points1 point ago

Yep... Exactly.

[–]PolarBearIcePop 1 point2 points ago

thought i was the only one, and it pissed me off something fierce

[–]nashoba 1 point2 points ago

THIS. I friggin hate it... Even with "best" friends.

[–]Wolf_SF 1 point2 points ago

story of my life..

[–]Gigzar 1 point2 points ago

Thank god I'm not the only one.

[–]mhurton 1 point2 points ago

Shut the fuck up Donny!

[–]skibblez_n_zits 2 points3 points ago

When engaged in a conversation with someone who is new to me, a big part of my initial judgement of their character depends on which of these two categories the person falls into. When they are silent and I am talking are they; 1. Listening attentively to what I have to say. OR 2. Waiting impatiently for me to pause/stop so they can speak again. The people OP is referring to would be the latter. Those are also the same people who's company I am not the least bit interested in keeping.

[–]RhetRapt 1 point2 points ago

Seriously though, does anyone know how to solve this? I'm getting sick of it.

[–]justtosaythis11 2 points3 points ago

I shit you not, this works everytime.......raise your hand.

If you are in a circle of people having a conversation, and you want to say something, but there aren't any pauses to start speaking, AND the subject matter is about to change! Raise your hand.

People will look at you, pause and you just wait. Someone will call your name (everytime), and you start speaking.

[–]Concussi0n 2 points3 points ago

I'm "that guy".

I used to be awkward as hell, but as I grew older, and started hanging out witht the kids a year younger, that intimidation you get from talking to peers is gone, so when I talk I'm pretty much the center of attention, but I don't neglect awkward penguins, if I see ANYONE being interrupted because someone else wanted tot talk to me, I listen and then I turn to the guy who was interrupted, "what were you saying?" or sometimes when somebody tries to say something to the group and is interrupted I go like "Dude, you just interrupted Jeff, he wanted to say something".

I'm always super observant in these types of things, I like to call myself the Penguin Parent. I take care of those awkward penguins!

[–]Buckwhal 1 point2 points ago

No, no.... You're not awkward, your friends are fucking assholes.

[–]_phobic 0 points1 point ago

This happened to me when I tried to socialise more at work. If the ppl you're trying to communicate with know you they will probably keep not listening/discounting you via interrupting for awhile, until they get used to the fact that you actually do have an opinion you'd like to express. I know it's discouraging, just keep at it and people will adjust.

[–]LarrytheLifeguard -1 points0 points ago

Maybe if you have something interesting to say people would listen, but judging by the shit redditors say I wouldn't be surprised if they get ignored

[–]slug_slug 0 points1 point ago

That's just me trying to say anything to anyone. I'm surprised no one has been killed by me for it.

[–]Toy_Cop 0 points1 point ago

Perhaps you lack confidence and charisma? People can usually tell, no one wants to listen to a person who isn't confident in himself hence not confident of his word.

[–]Perindu 0 points1 point ago

Sometimes i'll be walking with a group of people but having a conversation with one person. Then while i'm listening to the other person talk, another person from the group will come over and start talking to me about something. But then the newcomer gets pissed when I ignore them because i'm already in the middle of listening to someone speak about something. Don't know how people expect me to listen to two seperate people speaking, and then have the nerve to get pissed at me when they're the ones interrupting.

[–]Diffuse_ie 0 points1 point ago

An acquaintance of mine share the same group of friends and we often find ourselves hanging out with each other during the summer months. Anyway, one night we're at a restaurant, and I notice that he never lets the other speak if he and someone else bump sentences. So whatever, it happens between me and him. We go about five times back in forth interrupting each other before I say "can i fucking talk?" Anyway, I did my best to play it off from that point since I don't really show my anger unless something is REALLY bothering me. i'm not even sure he even got the message I was trying to give to him.. he kept on joking around with us/myself included all night.

[–]3eggs 0 points1 point ago

This happens every time I try to contribute to a conversation. They ignore me so I give up. And then they complain that I am too quiet.