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Poor Pluto (imgur.com)
submitted 5 days ago by diggro
[–]Jack9 464 points465 points466 points 5 days ago
The size of pluto is not to the same scale on that infographic. It's on the wrong infographic. Go home pluto, you're drunk.
[–]Ph0X 279 points280 points281 points 5 days ago
For anyone interested, this is how big pluto would be if actually added to that infographics.
[–]myopinionstinks 52 points53 points54 points 5 days ago
I came here for this graphic. reddit, and more specifically PhoX, does not disappoint.
[–]diothar 1 point2 points3 points 4 days ago
Think you could add the text from the first into the graphic drawn to scale? You'd be my hero.
[–]Ph0X 1 point2 points3 points 4 days ago
I'm not quite sure what you mean. The "hey guys.."? That would probably just be 1 pixel tall and unreadable.
[–]diothar 0 points1 point2 points 4 days ago
No, I mean put the same text on the image that actually has Pluto to scale.
[–]mattbluesman 0 points1 point2 points 4 days ago
Thank you I was very curious
[–]bloodwire 0 points1 point2 points 3 days ago
Pluto looks like a pea.
[–]DJUrsus -1 points0 points1 point 5 days ago*
Edit: Deleted.
[–]cryptorchidism 4 points5 points6 points 5 days ago
It says "*1 pixel = 279.6 km" in the corner.
[–]Ph0X 32 points33 points34 points 5 days ago
Just to be clear, I didn't actually use that because this metric is only correct if the image was at its original size. Instead of checking if the pixel ratio was correct and then using it, I simply used the fact that the radius of pluto is 18% that of Earth, since in this case earth was 38 pixel, and I ended up with 7 pixel for pluto.
[–]DJUrsus 4 points5 points6 points 5 days ago
Ah, missed that.
[–]Pillzbox 1 point2 points3 points 4 days ago
There's a version with a proper scale as well http://space-facts.com/the-planets-to-scale-true-colour/
[–]1000hipsterpoints -12 points-11 points-10 points 5 days ago
Aww c'mon, if Mercury counts then so does Pluto.
[–]Ph0X 15 points16 points17 points 5 days ago
You need to put it in perspective. Firstly, Pluto has less than half the radius, but what's even more important here is that Mercury is the closest planet to the sun, whereas Pluto is the furthest. If you've noticed, generally planets further away tend to be bigger, which already gives you a hint that Pluto isn't quite like the other planets.
Furthermore, if you look at their path around the sun, you'll once again see that pluto clearly stands out. There are many other ways in which pluto stands out from the other 8 "planets", but at the end of the days, planet is just a word we use and we put the meaning to it, and point here is, pluto is different in so many ways that it would widen what we accepts as planets by quite a lot if we accepted it as one.
[–]1000hipsterpoints 2 points3 points4 points 5 days ago
You're probably right. I just miss Pluto I guess.
[–]Ph0X 11 points12 points13 points 5 days ago
People get overly emotional over this. Pluto is still there, and it's still named Pluto, but instead of being in the PLANET box, it's now considered asteroid (or whatever it's now considered). It didn't go anywhere, it just changed family. It now lives with its people, among peers and family, in a happier place.
[–]Phrodo_00 5 points6 points7 points 5 days ago
exactly, also, nobody feels that way about the other dwarf planets. Namely Ceres, Haumea, Makemake and Eris
[–]ImperialSpaceturtle 6 points7 points8 points 5 days ago
The funny thing is that Ceres was in the exact same position as Pluto: It was considered a planet until other asteroids were discovered. To go from 'planet' to 'dwarf planet' is still slightly respectable. But from 'planet', in the same class with titans (heh) such as Saturn, all the way down to 'asteroid', that's just mean.
[–]cdcformatc 2 points3 points4 points 4 days ago
The way I look at it is we have 8 planets and a growing number of dwarf planets to learn about!
[–]StoneMe 0 points1 point2 points 4 days ago
Wait till they discover the elf planets!
[–]dghughes 0 points1 point2 points 4 days ago
it's now considered asteroid
Funny Pluto is an asteroid yet Uranus is a planet.
Pluto: "No you're an assteroid!"
[–]DeFex 0 points1 point2 points 3 days ago
Plutoids, even earth doesn't have a class of celestial objects named after it.
And there are hundreds of other "plutos" out there as well, it woud get really confusing.
[–]daRoach 0 points1 point2 points 5 days ago
If Pluto were as close to the sun as Mercury is, it wouldn't count...
[–]pluto 216 points217 points218 points 5 days ago
...I just want to belong again. :(
[–]nardosmarbles 44 points45 points46 points 5 days ago
Just looked through your comment history. You're a dedicated little planet... Oh wait - nevermind,
[–]alsothewalrus 29 points30 points31 points 5 days ago
Dick move, man. Dick move.
[–]Linelor 69 points70 points71 points 5 days ago
6 years 7 months. Damn.
[–]damian001 11 points12 points13 points 5 days ago
Doesn't matter because he's not a planet anymore. Hell even I have more comment karma than he does.
[–]yoordoengitrong 7 points8 points9 points 4 days ago
that's not fair. pluto's ping is pretty terrible, makes it hard to load reddit.
[–]atomatoisagoddamnveg -9 points-8 points-7 points 5 days ago
thatsthejoke.jpg
[–]ImBored_YoureAmorous 10 points11 points12 points 4 days ago
No it's not.
[–]atomatoisagoddamnveg 0 points1 point2 points 4 days ago
Pluto's not in the infographic because it's not a planet... else it would read with an asterisk or something.
[–]verstand 4 points5 points6 points 4 days ago
It's okay, you have loads of friends in the Kuiper Belt!
[–]PlutoISaPlanet 2 points3 points4 points 4 days ago
I believe.
[–]Nomikos 1 point2 points3 points 5 days ago
You'll always be a planet to me! <3
[–]thavi 5 points6 points7 points 5 days ago
That completely ruined the infographic for me. All that work just to ruin it by not putting the damned thing in scale with the rest of the graphic.
[–]LoCHiF 12 points13 points14 points 5 days ago
The "to scale" part is all wrong too.
Earth is ~12,750km in diameter. Jupiter is ~143,000km in diameter.
The whole thing is infuriating.
EDIT I got the colour of Neptune and the Earth mixed up. I'm infuriating. Fuck you, me.
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[–]pluto 4 points5 points6 points 5 days ago
Sooo funny... WE GET IT ALREADY, OKAY!?
[–]Jack9 -1 points0 points1 point 5 days ago
I didn't get the joke and I feel bad.
[–]Warlaw 32 points33 points34 points 5 days ago*
Plutoball!
[–]FOR_SClENCE 15 points16 points17 points 5 days ago
Kuiper Belt objects don't get to be in the planet club. Especially ones that have five moons which are a considerable portion of their size.
[–]IceBreak 2 points3 points4 points 5 days ago
which are a considerable portion of their size.
Kind of like Earth's moon? Yeah, 4:1 is a greater difference than 2:1 but both are comparable when compared with most other planets and their moons. I agree Pluto doesn't fit, but I don't feel moon proportion should really matter in the reasoning. If those moons did not exist would Pluto suddenly be more worthy of planet-hood?
[–]FOR_SClENCE 6 points7 points8 points 5 days ago
The IAU definition of a planet necessitates that it clears its immediate area of all debris. In Earth's case, that meant creating the Moon.
[–]IceBreak 1 point2 points3 points 5 days ago
A few more Chinese satellite crashes and we might have to rethink that...
[–]AndreasFrom 82 points83 points84 points 5 days ago
Pluto's not a planet...
[–]joerdie 65 points66 points67 points 5 days ago*
And it shouldn't be! Pluto is much more interesting as a Dwarf Planet! Its orbit is awesome!
Edit: Silly grammar.
[–]tom_the_red 34 points35 points36 points 5 days ago
Why is it that people are so mean to Ceres? Why does Pluto count so much more?
[–]spidyfan21 42 points43 points44 points 5 days ago
Because we grew up with Pluto, its more sentimental.
[–]workpuppy 2 points3 points4 points 4 days ago
Ceres was discovered in 1801. It was classed as a planet in textbooks until ~1850.
[–]joerdie 11 points12 points13 points 5 days ago
Nothing is wrong with Ceres! But Pluto's orbit sometimes crosses inside of Neptune's! There is a bunch of other cool shit too but I am drunk and tired.
Ceres is cool and all but there is shit in our Lagrange Point that's about the same size. Though the fact that it's the largest body in the inner asteroid belt, (though not the Oort cloud,) does make it super cool!
Fuck I'm drunk.
[–]SaloonLeaguer 10 points11 points12 points 5 days ago
Ceres is cool and all but there is shit in our Lagrange Point that's about the same size.
I don't think there is, but feel free to prove me wrong.
[–]loose-dendrite 7 points8 points9 points 5 days ago
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_objects_at_Lagrangian_points#Sun.E2.80.93Earth_Lagrangian_points
Has satellites (trivially small) and this asteroid:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_TK7
Its diameter is 300m. Ceres' is about 3km. Unless 2010_TK7 is made entirely of Uranium or something, Ceres is much larger than everything in the Earth-Sun lagrange points.
[–]joerdie 2 points3 points4 points 4 days ago
Yup. You are correct. Earth's L4 and L5 objects are much smaller than Ceres. Kids! This is why beer and science do not go well together.
[–]Shappie 1 point2 points3 points 4 days ago
Nothing better than getting excited about astronomy while drunk! :D
[–]gordigor 1 point2 points3 points 5 days ago
Based on your comment. Imagine what you can do when you're sober!
[–]Sicnarf111 0 points1 point2 points 5 days ago
But Pluto's orbit sometimes crosses inside of Neptune's!
How, over the course of a few billion years, has this not resulted in a collision?
[–]grachasaurus 8 points9 points10 points 5 days ago
Their orbits don't cross. Pluto's is at a different angle such that it is sometimes closer to the sun than Neptune. Their orbits never intersect. Think about it three-dimensionally
[–]thewiglaf 2 points3 points4 points 5 days ago
Pluto's orbit is on a large incline compared to the plane of the orbits of the planets. So their paths don't necessarily cross. Here.
[–]joerdie 1 point2 points3 points 4 days ago*
When it happens, the two orbits are on different planes. Not only is Pluto's orbit highly elliptical, it is also tilted. Its inclination is over 17 degrees.
[–]YoureTheVest 1 point2 points3 points 4 days ago
Pluto's orbit is in 2:3 resonance with Neptune's. For every two orbits of Pluto, Neptune goes around three times, and the cycle repeats. It just so happens that they're never very close to each other, and Pluto in fact comes closer to Uranus than it ever does to Neptune.
[–]drownballchamp 0 points1 point2 points 5 days ago
Because they cross orbits for a few seconds every 120 years. It's just not very likely
[–]grachasaurus 1 point2 points3 points 5 days ago
They don't cross orbits. See my comment to him.
[–]masterminder 2 points3 points4 points 5 days ago
Because now my very educated mother has nothing to serve us.
[–]joerdie 1 point2 points3 points 5 days ago
I am sure there is a much dirtier mnemonic device you can use that doesn't require a "P."
[–]daedalus733 0 points1 point2 points 5 days ago
Or you could just remember them.
[–]joerdie 0 points1 point2 points 4 days ago
But then there would be nothing to make me giggle like a tit mouse when I recall them each day.
[–]CockroachED 1 point2 points3 points 5 days ago
To hell with your very educated mother, science progresses. We don't teach chemistry with the elements earth, air, water and fire. And Pluto shouldn't be considered a planet.
[–]Ghosttwo 1 point2 points3 points 4 days ago
The interesting thing is that if you tell the IAU to screw off and define a planet as something that includes Pluto, then you'd have to add Eris since it's bigger than Pluto. So if you want Pluto to be a planet again, then we have at least 10 instead of the traditional 9 planets!
Very true. I think most armchair astronomers are mad more because Pluto is what they grew up with. Tyson has said in interviews that people over 40 are still rather upset about the entire ordeal.
[–]Lolologist 0 points1 point2 points 4 days ago
its
Look, not to be a jerk here or anything, but do you know how to use its/it's correctly? If not I can help.
Yes I know the difference. I was typing fast and was inebriated. Will you, the grammar police, let me off with a warning? Ill show you my tits!
[–]Lolologist 1 point2 points3 points 4 days ago
Well, it could get me in real deep with the precinct if I just let you go, but... aw heck, get outta here. And don't let me catch you throwing those apostrophes around again, y'hear?
[–]BluShine 7 points8 points9 points 5 days ago
I think the more important question is: why is Pluto wandering away from the dwarf planet infographic?
[–]zworkaccount 6 points7 points8 points 5 days ago
Which is the "joke" I guess.
[–]CannibalShinobi 1 point2 points3 points 5 days ago
Yeah, just like how dwarfs are not people either, right?
[–]redwall_hp 0 points1 point2 points 4 days ago
Everyone snubs the god of the underworld.
[–]rivea 0 points1 point2 points 4 days ago
therein lies the funny
[–]Spanglegluppet 0 points1 point2 points 5 days ago
Nor is it that big.
[–]Whilyam 27 points28 points29 points 5 days ago
Just think, we can all fit inside Uranus. Heeeeyooo! *leaves*
[–]Sornos 27 points28 points29 points 5 days ago
These jokes always make me a little sad considering the origin of the name Uranus. The naming of the planets went logically from the discovery of Jupiter. Jupiter being the biggest of the planets found so far was named after the king of the Gods. Beyond Jupiter was his father, Saturn. Beyond Saturn was his father Ouranos (or Uranus as it is so often spelled). Ouranos is the god of heaven. Literally. He is the skies in opposition to Gaea, the Earth. Such a powerful figure in mythology reduced to "lol ur anus" jokes.
[–]Torus2112 5 points6 points7 points 4 days ago
Who the hell decided to stop calling it Ouranos?! They had to know what would happen, it's not some slang that changed since then, it's right there, "your anus"! I think it's a conspiracy to discredit Ouranos.
[–]peon47 2 points3 points4 points 4 days ago
Because "Our anus" is so much better?
[–]SonOfTheLorax 1 point2 points3 points 4 days ago
Ahem. Shouldn't that be "Our anuses"? Or "Our anii"? Or something other sort of Greco-roman bullshit?
I've only got one. I don't feel like sharing it with anyone.
[–]Claussm 0 points1 point2 points 4 days ago
Greco-roman bullshit
Dead
[–]ZeMoose 0 points1 point2 points 4 days ago
"Our anen."
[–]Torus2112 0 points1 point2 points 3 days ago
It's a little better!
[–]Whilyam 2 points3 points4 points 5 days ago
Honestly, me too. To be fair, though, Uranus is really just a big show off. "Ooh look at me, I'm spinning on my side, woo I'm mysterious" Plus Uranus screwed his mother, so...
[–]kalsyrinth 0 points1 point2 points 4 days ago
Jupiter wasn't called Jupiter because it was the biggest - people didn't know how big it was when they named it, since Jupiter is one of the 5 visible planets.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jupiter#Mythology
[–]ArtemisOSX 10 points11 points12 points 5 days ago
Pluto is way smaller than that
[–]crow1170 2 points3 points4 points 5 days ago
From Google:
The diameter of Mercury is 4,879.4 km across, while Pluto's diameter is 2,360 km across.
Not just smaller, but about half the width of mercury. Including Pluto in this graphic would convey the idea that 'planet' is an outdated archetype.
[–]ArtemisOSX 1 point2 points3 points 4 days ago
Exactly.
[–]SauerJosh 30 points31 points32 points 5 days ago
TALKING ABOUT PLUTO IS SOOOO GEEKY GUISE, AMIRITE?
It's 2012, folks.
[–]IceBreak 26 points27 points28 points 5 days ago*
1990 called, it wanted its obnoxious year reference back.
[–]santaliqueur 6 points7 points8 points 5 days ago
1994 called, it wants all of its jokes back about other years calling requesting things somehow.
[–]srry72 2 points3 points4 points 4 days ago
2001 called, you guys sure dropped the ball on warning me.
[–]TheSkyNet 1 point2 points3 points 4 days ago
OMG they did! did you tell them about all the horrible things that happened?
[–]IceBreak 0 points1 point2 points 4 days ago
Nah, just the Pluto thing. Life needs mystery.
[–]daRoach 1 point2 points3 points 5 days ago
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[–]tubbstosterone 18 points19 points20 points 5 days ago
I am really tired of hearing about Pluto. Sure, when I heard it got demoted, I was disappointed, but then I went to college. Turns out Pluto is not unique, or interesting, or really anything like a planet. I'm mad it wasn't recategorized sooner. The moons of Jupiter are more like planets than Pluto.
[–]peon47 -1 points0 points1 point 4 days ago
What college did you go to?
The moons of Jupiter orbit Jupiter. Pluto orbits The Sun. That alone makes it more of a planet.
[–]Democrab 2 points3 points4 points 4 days ago
The College of Winterholm, so while he may not know as much as you about planets he can set you on fire. Be careful.
[–]LordQuagga 1 point2 points3 points 4 days ago
In fact, he became the Archmage after like 3 hours of being there and he doesn't even use magic, really.
[–]tubbstosterone 4 points5 points6 points 4 days ago
I go to the University of Alabama. There's a lot of random crap and debris orbiting the Sun. Considering that Pluto is just a hunk of ice and rock, it is more akin to comets, which also orbit the sun.
Pluto is a kuiper belt object. Also, Pluto is surrounded by 5 other kuiper belt objects. One of them, Charon, while smaller than Pluto, is relatively gigantic compared to every other moon in the solar system. Next, considering that Pluto is farther out than any planet, by current definition of a planet (concerning structure, density, and possible creation), it would need to be a) a gas giant, and b) far less dense than it is.
TL;DR: Yes, Pluto orbits the sun. So do comets and asteroids. Pluto has more in common with comets and asteroids than it does with planets such as Venus or Neptune.
[–]peon47 -1 points0 points1 point 4 days ago*
Considering that Pluto is just a hunk of ice and rock, it is more akin to comets, which also orbit the sun.
And some of the planets are made out of nothing but gas.
A planet's isn't just defined by what it's made of. It's also defined by its behaviour. And something that orbits Jupiter is in no way "more like a planet" than something that goes around the sun.
Found the IAU defintion: (1) A "planet" is a celestial body that: (a) is in orbit around the Sun, (b) has sufficient mass for its self-gravity to overcome rigid body forces so that it assumes a hydrostatic equilibrium (nearly round) shape, and (c) has cleared the neighbourhood around its orbit.
Nothing whatsoever to do with composition. The fact that it's made of a lot of ice is 100% irrelevant.
[–]obvioustroll 0 points1 point2 points 4 days ago*
Pluto appears to fail both (b) and (c).
Edit: I take that back - the most recent "maps" indicate that Pluto does, indeed, meet (b). I guess we'll find out for sure in 2015.
[–]peon47 0 points1 point2 points 4 days ago
And "the moons of jupiter" fail (a) which I would say is more important to a planet's definition than (b) and (c) combined.
[–]obvioustroll -1 points0 points1 point 4 days ago
I never claimed the moons of jupiter are planets; you're the one obsessing over ig.
Who said you did?
The moons of Jupiter are more like planets than Pluto.
That's the part of his post I was discussing.
[–]tubbstosterone 0 points1 point2 points 4 days ago
The structure of Pluto has a lot to do with why it is no longer referred to as a planet. There are many objects, like Pluto, that also orbit the sun. These plutoids have very little in common with any of the other planets. Sure, it orbits the sun, sure it is large enough to maintain a bit of it's own gravity, but it has not cleared out it's orbit and it does not fit into the classifications of either a terrestrial or jovian planet.
The moons of Jupiter do in fact have more in common with planets than Pluto. Astronomers and Astrophysicists believe that most of the notable moons of Jupiter were formed in ways similar to that of the terrestrial planets. Likewise, the density of Jupiter's moons fall in line with the terrestrial planets. Therefore, the one real difference between the moons of Jupiter and the terrestrial planets is the focus of their orbit. Meanwhile, Pluto shares few characteristics with the Jovian and Terrestrial planets. It is not a fully formed planet and there are too many stellar bodies floating about in it's orbit for it to be considered a planet. Therefore, the moons of Jupiter (specifically Ganymede, Callisto, Io, and Europa) have more in common with planets (specifically the terrestrial planets) than Pluto.
The structure of Pluto has a lot to do with why it is no longer referred to as a planet.
Despite the IAU definition of a planet I quoted in the post above that makes no mention of the object's structure at all?
It becomes very important when you consider planetary formation theory. Downgrading Pluto fits the current planetary formation model, considering you can't have a fully formed non-gas giant that far out in the solar system.
At last count, there are at least 50 objects similar to Pluto orbiting the sun at about the same distance Pluto does.
At least 20 have been given names.
Shall we add them all to the list of planets?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_trans-Neptunian_objects
Edit: The most recent data indicates that Pluto isn't even big enough to have formed a proper sphere - it's more like a very big asteroid than a planet. Shall we consider Ceres and Vesta to be planets, too?
[–]Shermanpk 2 points3 points4 points 5 days ago
http://imgur.com/XgjtH
[–]avengepluto 2 points3 points4 points 5 days ago
We'll have our day...
[–]Ganthiel 2 points3 points4 points 4 days ago*
Pluto diameter: 2322 km Mercury diameter: 4879 km
Pluto would be less than half as wide as the smallest dot on the eight-planet infographic.
Stupid infographic is stupid.
[–]srry72 5 points6 points7 points 5 days ago
Man. I remember when Pluto used to be cool with the geeks. You've changed Pluto. You used to be cool
[–]Brocerystore 3 points4 points5 points 5 days ago
I was watching a little girl talk on a local morning show about how she wanted to be an astronaut when she grew up. She said the reasoning was because she knew all the planets, then, she proceeded to name them. All but Pluto. It was then I realized that she may not have any idea there is a Pluto. Poor Pluto. :(
[–]daedalus733 5 points6 points7 points 5 days ago
Most kids probably don't know about Ceres, Haumea, Makemake, or Eris either. People talk about Pluto enough that she probably knew about it, but didn't have the illogical emotional attachment to its old label as a planet that many adults have.
[–]Brocerystore 0 points1 point2 points 5 days ago
To be fair she was like 6 years old in Arizona education system, she probably had no idea about it.
But are you sad for Ceres, Haumea, Makemake, or Eris?
[–]ntorotn 0 points1 point2 points 4 days ago
No, because they were never classified as planets.
What's so hard about this?
[–]daedalus733 0 points1 point2 points 4 days ago
Ceres was.
Okay, but not in our lifetime.
[–]likwitsnake 7 points8 points9 points 5 days ago
Pluto is icy debris, not a planet.
[–]ramstoria 1 point2 points3 points 5 days ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heRn5n6z-Ck
[–]turnerjer 1 point2 points3 points 5 days ago
Pluto is the Syd Barrett of the Solar system.
[–]ThreeHolePunch 1 point2 points3 points 5 days ago
It was a shitty infographic anyway, Pluto.
[–]Bike-o-king 0 points1 point2 points 4 days ago
It's okay Pluto. I'm not a planet either
[–]obvioustroll 1 point2 points3 points 4 days ago
Except Pluto would be even smaller than Mercury.
[–]PlutoISaPlanet 1 point2 points3 points 4 days ago
ಠ_ಠ
[–]elvisliveson 0 points1 point2 points 5 days ago
Interesting, a lot of planets fit in uranus.
[–]sirbob 1 point2 points3 points 4 days ago
Too bad the Earth isn't the size of Uranus.
[–]kevoizjawesome 0 points1 point2 points 5 days ago
Where does Planet X fit in on that scale?
[–]Camalonful 0 points1 point2 points 5 days ago
Mary's very eager mother just sent us nine... Oh... Sad.
[–]Nomikos 0 points1 point2 points 5 days ago
Search google images for "dear nasa".
[–]Iherduliekmudkipz 0 points1 point2 points 5 days ago
That doesn't seem right.. I thought mars was a bit bigger, venus a bit smaller, and Saturn a bit smaller relative to Jupiter.. I may be thinking in terms of mass rather than volume, though
[–]obvioustroll 0 points1 point2 points 4 days ago
The mass thing is the big difference between Saturn and Jupiter.
From what I've read, Jupiter's diameter apparently represents a hard limit for the size of a gas giant - until it actually reaches the point where it can sustain fusion, adding mass would make it more dense rather than making it larger in diameter.
Thus, Saturn is nearly as big as Jupiter even though it's practically a puff ball when you compare masses.
As for Mars and Venus - yeah, in terms of size Earth and Venus are much closer than Earth and Mars - but Venus has such a horrifically dense atmosphere that Mars is much, much easier to explore. I don't think we've ever even gotten a probe to survive more than a few seconds on the surface of Venus.
[–]randomb0y 0 points1 point2 points 4 days ago
Reminds me of that really short colleague I had in college.
[–]MuseofRose 0 points1 point2 points 4 days ago
Pluto the little runt that couldnt
[–]notjawn 0 points1 point2 points 4 days ago
To be fair that is an awful infographic to begin with. Let's use similar hues to express different planets and then combine them all in one! GENIUS!
[–]Tebasaki 0 points1 point2 points 4 days ago
So Pluto is a planet again? I thought it was a ball of ice. Maybe they'll keep switching sides like eggs being good for you or bad for you.
[–]normanhome 1 point2 points3 points 4 days ago
No it still isn't. Go watch this :) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_2gbGXzFbs&feature=plcp
[–]redditspice 0 points1 point2 points 4 days ago
pluto does not deserve to have planet status
the only reason you like it is because it shares the name of a cartoon animal, unfuck yourself
[–]edwin_on_reddit 0 points1 point2 points 5 days ago
I haven't heard enough versions of this joke in the past five years. Thank goodness someone was willing to beat this dead horse once more!
[–]Awdangbro -8 points-7 points-6 points 5 days ago
Bring back pluto!!
[–]tjb0607 1 point2 points3 points 5 days ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_2gbGXzFbs
[–]esquilax -1 points0 points1 point 5 days ago
http://open.spotify.com/track/3l0SGgx3pxaWLe07sw8BVo
[–]Eleminohp -1 points0 points1 point 5 days ago
Earth is almost the size as Uranus...almost...
[–]rivea -1 points0 points1 point 4 days ago
Notice where they put the four small planets...
[–]ilikeapples2 -1 points0 points1 point 4 days ago
Hey, look! Mercury, Venus, Earth and Mars can ALL fit in Uranus!
[–]Vegerot -1 points0 points1 point 4 days ago
Fucking Neil DeGrasse Tyson
[–]polerix -1 points0 points1 point 4 days ago
Uranus is HUGE!
[–]monkey3 -4 points-3 points-2 points 5 days ago*
Real geeks know that Pluto is no longer a planet.
*awww, butthurts can't science. Q_Q
[–]adzm -7 points-6 points-5 points 5 days ago
Fuck Pluto.
[–]Fradle -4 points-3 points-2 points 5 days ago
I was totally expecting this pluto.
[–]ChickenOfDoom -21 points-20 points-19 points 5 days ago
'Planet' is a word in the English language. Scientists don't get to define language, the people who use it do. If they want to abandon a popular definition of a word for a new definition, they should just make a new word and leave the old one alone.
[–]okmkz 9 points10 points11 points 5 days ago
Scientists don't get to define language the people who use it do
I'm gonna blow your mind here, but sometimes scientists are the ones who use language. That's what the term 'dwarf planet' is for.
[–]Granite-M 1 point2 points3 points 5 days ago
I'm less upset about the demotion itself than I am about the new term being bad. "Planetoid" is a perfectly good term for a thing not quite big enough to count as a planet. Saying that a "dwarf planet" is not a planet just leads to semantic confusion. It makes it sound like they would have us believe that "dwarf people" aren't people, and that's just mean to dwarves.
[–]okmkz 3 points4 points5 points 5 days ago
I fail to see how "dwarf planet" is less appropriate than "planetoid." By your logic, Disney should have produced "Snow White and the Seven Humanoids."
ninja edit: I would also watch the hell out of that movie.
[–]Granite-M 0 points1 point2 points 4 days ago
I'm not sure I catch the Snow White comparison. The dwarves aren't humans, they are dwarves. They are, however, vaguely human-shaped, and so it might be fair (in Star Trek parlance) to call them "humanoid," in that they have the basic outline of humans, but aren't in fact human. Pluto, similarly, is somewhat planet-like, but it doesn't fit the strict definition of a planet, so calling it a planetoid works.
Saying that someone isn't a human, doesn't mean they aren't people. So, saying that a dwarf planet isn't a planet sounds to me like saying that a dwarf person isn't a person, and that seems semantically unclear to me.
[–]okmkz 0 points1 point2 points 4 days ago
Not human? Are you kidding me?
I'm assuming they're of similar background as Tolkien dwarves, where they're a distinct species. Plenty of humanoid species in sci-fi and fantasy, and a fair number are close to human-looking, but still distinct.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwarfism
Dwarves are humans; it's pretty offensive to suggest otherwise.
Tolkien dwarves aren't, and neither are Germanic mythological dwarfs. You have two different contexts for the use of the word "dwarf," here. You've got "dwarf," meaning mythological being who is not human, and you've got "dwarf," meaning either an adjective meaning small, or a human being with a specific condition that reduces their growth. If you're saying that a person with dwarfism is human, I'm agreeing with you, and going on to say that a "dwarf human" counting as human, but "dwarf planet" not counting as a planet is confusing.
I'm done here. Have a nice day.
[–]chemicalcloud 4 points5 points6 points 5 days ago
Scientists do get to define scientific terms like planet or molecule or trachea - just like lawyers can define legal terms and doctors can define medical terms. That's how it works. You let the people who know what they're talking about do the talking. What if tomorrow we find out that an apple is actually a vegetable and we've been wrong all along. Are you still going to call it a fruit even though we just found out it doesn't fit the definition?
[–]daedalus733 1 point2 points3 points 5 days ago
Fruit is a scientific term; vegetable is a culinary term.
[–]ChickenOfDoom -2 points-1 points0 points 5 days ago
Yes. The definition of fruit and vegetable I and many others choose to use is based entirely on arbitrary lists, not biology.
[–]chemicalcloud 1 point2 points3 points 5 days ago
There's nothing arbitrary about it. There are convenient definitions and things that fall under that domain are labeled as such.
[–]Silentwes 1 point2 points3 points 5 days ago
The idea would be that Pluto didn't fit the pre-existing standards of the word planet. Not that the word planet was redefined to exclude Pluto.
Planet is a scientific term, thus scientists get to define it.
[–]ChickenOfDoom 0 points1 point2 points 4 days ago
But it's nowhere close to exclusively a scientific term. Planets are a big part of the world we live in, and it's a word that everyone knows and uses occasionally. I think it's a dick move to attempt to modify the usage of a word like that.
[–]fdg456n 1 point2 points3 points 4 days ago
What do people actually mean when they say planet though. They probably don't have an actual definition. They don't know how or why or what makes something a planet. They called Pluto a planet because scientists told them it was. Now scientists say it isn't, so we stop calling it one. There's absolutely no reason to hold onto some previous nebulous definition.
[–]ChickenOfDoom -1 points0 points1 point 4 days ago
Sure there is: it has become a part of our culture. This is science misguidedly encroaching on culture.
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