Not trying to create another argument over tips, but if you do this, FUCK YOU! I'm sure $140 could have gotten you and your kids a week worth of groceries, but instead you spend it one one meal?! For shame!

doodads · 3 days

To anyone who just arrived and are sifting through the comments: A bunch of people who have never worked in a restaurant in the U.S. are complaining about having to tip, and then people who have worked in U.S. restaurants are bitching at them because they don't understand how U.S. waiters/waitresses/servers make money.

Then when it is explained that the servers only get paid enough of a wage to cover taxes and have to rely on tips to pay bills, everyone comments on how shitty of a system that is and how restaurant managers and owners must be the biggest d-bags ever to perpetuate this kind of system.

This happens every time this sort of thing is posted on reddit.

csonks42 · 3 days

I bartend at a local joint in Nebraska and we do not accept tips. I make $16/hr and any money left on tables or at the bar is either given back or if the people have left already it goes in a jar which gets cashed in at the end of the month to help pay for special events we order on PPV.

hippiechan · 3 days

As someone who works in food service, tipping is in no way obligatory and you'll still receive good service at least from me in spite of it. But if you're an asshole or generally rude towards me and you don't tip, you can't expect exceptional service should you ever return.

smilingarmpits · 3 days

Not trying to create another argument over tips

There goes another argument over tips

marlfox · 3 days

1. I'm kitchen staff at a restaurant (albiet in Canada) and I find it hilarious that so far there's no mention of how much back-of-house makes compared to the servers. Or any opinions whatsoever. I'd like to see the USA side of it.
2. That's fucked up that you server/waiter peeps (in 'Merica) get royally FUCKED. US Department of Labour Now I see what Steve Buscemi was rambling about in Resevoir Dogs.
3. At my restaurant the servers make about $4-5 less than me per hour. They have to tip out 2-5% of their SALES (to anybody who is not a waiter/server). So basically if they're not making at least 2% tips, they're losing "money" but they still get their shitty $8-9/hr wage. Not this ridiculous $2.13/hr wage shit, which is why I think a lot of people are getting downvoted in this thread when I really think they shouldn't be. They just don't understand. That shit is seriously fucked.
4. In Canada the servers probably claim 10%~ish of their tips MAX? as taxable income. Again, this whole post is based on a shitty American system but 'just sayin'.
5. I was originally replying to OP and every other server/waiter in this thread who bitch about shitty tips, especially the ones who complain about "OH I ONLY MADE $100 IN TIPS TODAY "... WELL guess how much the kitchen staff made in tips? I made a fucking quarter in tips today. But now I realize it doesn't matter because in the USA this whole tipping business vs. wage is fucked up.

layra96 · 4 days

Weekday they spent on food for one meal i could live on for almost two weeks. That is gas and food(mind you that is ramen and pb&j) for me.

bobsled_mon · 3 days

I do not have a problem with tipping. I usually leave 15-20%. I even tip when I get take out. Here is my issue:

Some waiters expect a 15+% tip from every customer. I have over heard waiters talking about people who left a $10 tip on a $100 meal as if they were the scum of the earth.

Because someone spent $138 on a meal does not mean they have money. She could have been celebrating a special occasion or could have been saving for months to afford this dinner. Additionally, the bill could have been a bit more than she budgeted for.

But I do agree that it sucks.

EDIT: typos

wannagetbaked · 3 days

I can see why that bitch is single..

notbob1959 · 3 days

Looks fake. Handwriting doesn't match between the tip note and the thank you note. Customer probably left tip in cash so the tip line was left blank.

SaphiraArach · 3 days

As a server, this woul have pissed me off.... I get it if you have bad service, but clearly it was great. I get if she's a single mom, but then why can she afford a 140.00 bill? It's a load of crap and shame on her for playing a typical guilt card so you don't get pissed over the fact that you probably not only busted your ass for FREE (for upwards of an hour most likely) but I potentially also COST you money having that person there because of tipshare. Ugh. I'm annoyed just reading this.

muddymudd · 4 days

Best part: that made your Tipshare go up like a bitch, didn't it? You lost tips because of it. Fuck those people.

chimpychimp · 3 days

I have this amusing picture in my head that this lady goes around doing a variety of socially awkward or unacceptable things using the same excuse. Excuse me dear, mind if I have that seat as Im 99 and have 3 broken hips ? Sorry, im a single mom, deal with it. M'am can you not throw litter on the floor please? Sorry, single mom. Miss, you cant take a shit on the railway tracks. Single. Mom. Sorry.

NotNotNotPikk · 3 days

I hate giving tips. It is the dumbest shit ever. Why can't the price on the menu just reflect what I actually have to pay to not get my food spat on the next time I eat there?

lewko · 3 days

I give single mothers money all the time. Oh and college girls.

RedheadedBanshee · 3 days

I'm a single Mom, and this is bullshit. What exactly are you teaching your kids? That it's all about you - what you need, what you want, and screw everyone else. It's YOU first.

Dear Parents of all kinds - your kids are watching you and learning. Treat others with respect please!

Douchebags come in all shapes and sizes, even single Mom types.Sighhhhhh.

Bedurndurn · 3 days

Some perspective: If every single waiter on the planet just up and died, the only downside is I'd have to tell someone in the kitchen what I wanted to eat and then carry it back to my table when it was ready.

nbshark · 3 days

I live in a country where you tip when the food and service was better then expected. You don't tip a standard ammount. Waiters and waitresses get paid a better salary when compared to America too. I personally don't tip people doing the job they are paid to do. If they made my stay at their restaurant better then expected or more special, yes, then I tip.

America has a weird system... But it has pros too I guess...

Chrisdoubleyou · 3 days

How did this devolve into a discussion about how mandatory tipping sucks? You tip for good service, and the bitch wrote on the ticket that everything was great, so I am unclear as to why everyone is defending her/criticizing the OP. If you don't want to tip, don't go places where you are served.

rossHousin · 3 days

Dude, I can rock a month on $138. That's so much rice n' beans!

Ruth4116 · 3 days

If you can't afford the tip and the meal- don't eat out. the end.

phantomheart · 3 days

Not tipping by saying 'sorry, single mother' is sad and unacceptable, especially on a bill that is $140. I am a big fan of tipping, and I generally overtip (instead of leaving the standard 15%, I'm a fan of leaving upwards of 30%.) However, there are exceptions to the rule as I experienced last night when heading out for a meal. Nearly empty restaurant, tonnes of waitstaff and our waitress was barely around. She gave us TERRIBLE service. Not to mention the food was bad and she didnt care. I did give a terrible tip, but if you cant even be polite and care about what you do when we have been nothing but nice to you, then I'm not tipping you shit. Oh yeah, and she gave our table really awesome cut-eye when we were leaving.

franzdpz · 3 days

get a union and increase the minimum wage?

professordoom · 3 days

If you can't afford to tip your server,you can't afford to eat out. If this check was $40 instead of $140 it would be the same. This is not about "Well,in MY country" or "I am paid less than many skilled waitpersons" This happened in America,where every grown up knows about tipping,and what is generally done in restaurants. This was a shitty thing to do to the OP,and the customer had to know it.

AnnieOrangetree · 3 days

That is such a bullshit excuse not to tip, like you said if you can spend $140 on just one dinner you can't be that short of money..

Seanledford91 · 3 days

As a waiter, I take a lot of time making sure that the people who come into the restaurant I work at have a good time. Essentially, I wipe their ass for them. If they suck down a drink in .02 seconds I'm right there to refill it. When they treat me like shit because I can't get that extra bowl of soup they want for free, I'm there, smiling and apologizing. And honestly, people with kids are the worst. They will run you TO DEATH. For those of you who don't know what that means, any time a table needs something I get to run to the back. Usually by the time I get back, the table needs something else, be it refills, honey mustard for their chicken, mayo for their burger, A1, blah blah blah. And I get to do all of this, with a smile, for asshats that are rude as fuck and don't tip. If you can't afford to tip there's a simple solution. Go to McDonald's where they expect you to be a dick.

Flashnewb · 3 days

See, what's happening here is that the system of payment for servers in the United States is so unbelievably bad that everyone literally cannot believe it, and so are taking it out on the waiters complaining. Suspend your disbelief for a moment: it really is, apparently, that bad.

So, friends in the United States: when something is so bad in your own country that nobody else in the western world can even bring themselves to believe that it could possibly be the case, you might want to look in to lobbying to get it changed.

See also: Healthcare.

Purple_Herman · 3 days

PROTIP: Before you go to a foreign country do yourself and everyone else a favor and look up the common tipping practices so you don't look like an asshole.

rdpp_boyakasha · 3 days

Coming from Australia (where nobody ever tips), this is what I see:

Waiter: "Can I have some free money?"

Customer: "No"

Waiter: "FUCK YOU AND I HOPE YOU DIE"

galwegian · 3 days

if you go to a restaurant in the USA, you tip the waiter. those are the established rules. otherwise go to fucking Burger King.

Laezur · 3 days

There are a lot of arguments for and against tipping, but as long as your country supports tipping (i.e. doesn't pay wait staff shit) the rule should be "if you can't afford to tip, you can't afford to eat out".

olblueeyes937 · 3 days

Single mom or not you leave a tip! Sorry dude, people are trashy

funkarama · 3 days

Single mom does not mean unemployed. She has $140 to spend on a meal, it does not mean that her kid goes unfed. She can afford a tip. That is what this is about.

wytewydow · 3 days

I think of the tip in a restaurant as rent of the table, paid to the waiter/waitress, so I have a place to sit down and enjoy the food I am buying from the restaurant. If you cannot afford to rent the table, get the food to go. This goes the same for delivery drivers; if you can't afford the delivery service, you should go pick it up yourself.

ChaosMotor · 3 days

What a bitch! If you can't afford the tip, you can't afford the meal.

NashvilleRedditors · 3 days

It all goes back to this single mom. Who in their right mind, when worried that they're a single mother, spends $140 in a restaurant?

GrippinThaGrain · 4 days

What kind of food? How many people in the party?

FA-toni · 3 days

Tipping is one of the most fucked up concepts ever... everyone loses out except for the management.

Fuck capitalism.

KRossVD · 4 days

If you can't afford the tip you can't afford to eat out.

Late2theGame · 4 days

That is a poor excuse for being poor if you pay that much for a meal. People are foolish.

punx777 · 3 days

I have to damage my car and waste gas and oil to get my tips. Fuck these people. And i agree, Hell i could eat for two months on 140 bucks.

GroovyPsycho · 3 days

Another thing to consider is that being such a large bill, the patron most likely sat at OP's table for well over an hour, maybe even two. Servers, at least in Florida, are given sections with limited tables. That means not only did she run OP like a dog, she took up potential money from customers who would actually tip.

Forblarion · 3 days

As a line cook this shit pisses me off that you have the nerve to post this. I don't know how many nights I've had ruined by careless negligent, pissy servers who I have to hear complain about not getting tips because they think the costumers are ass holes when really they are just bad servers. You're getting commission on top of tips. As a line cook who slaves a way for 9 bucks and hour, this pisses me off. Sorry for the rant

markhewitt1978 · 3 days

One one thing to note in the UK at least is that you never usually write the tip amount on the bill (check), you leave cash on the table.

bmwparking · 3 days

I actually like tipping. I know that most of the servers rely mostly on tips so whenever I order something I always adjust the grand total to at least 10%.

And to be honest, I really like the tipping system in the US (I'm in Europe), you can just add the amount to the cheque.

Last time I was in the restaurant I didn't have any cache left, I paid with my credit card and I'm still kind of feeling bad because the server was pretty nice and I didn't leave anything. :/

brylionreddit · 3 days

late to the party here but I was recently in America and we were surprised at how many waiting staff there were in restaurants we went into, yes the places were busy but most of the staff only had a couple of tables each to look after, is this normal? local restaurants to me (UK) genrally have 2 or 3 staff for about 30 tables, in the US we saw similar sized establishments like that have 10+ easily.

libertyordeath11 · 3 days

I really don't understand how some people think that not tipping is okay for any reason. Where I'm from (Virginia), tipping less than 20% for average service is just shitty.

mxdawson · 3 days

I know several girls that make bank working as a server in a resturant and she got paid well under minimum wage and made plenty of money. However, anybody that takes the time to write out "Thanks it was great" and then writes "Sorry single mom" instead of a tip deserves a big ole FUCK YOU. Next time she should have just signed it and then walked away.

MaxRide · 3 days

Yea, that's pretty shitty. I agree wholeheartedly about the groceries. It amazes me how some people can claim to be a victim of society and that their personal financial situation is not their fault, but their actions seem to be to the contrary (IE: Eating out, Buying spinning rims, etc).

If you are poor and try to live a middle class lifestyle (IE: By buying a single family home you can't afford) your the victim. If your middle-class and live outside your lifestyle (Buying expensive toys like a boat or an airplane) then your just an idiot.

Renidrag · 2 days

Anybody mention being a delivery driver? thats the worst. People don;t tip regardless of the fact that I go out of my way to drive to your house using MY car and MY gas and still dont get tipped, even though in my eyes, im doing more then walking to your table a few times during a meal

AcousticPig · 1 day

The one thing I never understood about tips is that if you order something at a restaurant most people do a percentage tip based on the total, and with the more expensive food you order, you have to tip more? Excuse me but the plate and food weigh the same, and you didn't make the food yourself, I'll tip you based on your service, not the price of my single plate of food.

I do understand when they have to bring out a lot of plates for multiple and such but I just think it's silly you're supposed to tip more based on the food on the plate when the waiter had nothing to do with it.

holly-wog · 2012-11-02T20:59:30+00:00

My deepest of sympathies to the waitperson who was stiffed on the tip by the "single mom".

This makes me so, so angry. I mean, so many of us are underpaid and not thanked in ways that really help. But I think some of it is just the fact that it has to be common knowledge that waiters and waitresses depend on tips, and then when they are NOT tipped (assuming service was at least decent), there is no redress for them. They are at the mercy of the customer, and then the customer gets to dash off without facing the wrath over their cheapness.

AND just as bad is this cop out for single parents. Well, one obvious question would be "how does the customer know that the waitress isn't a single mom (or dad)?" But even if the waiter / waitress DOESN'T have dependent children, why is their time less valuable?

ARGH, this just pisses me off so bad. I don't wipe anyone's ass for them being a single parent. I know how ugly that sounds, but that's how I feel right now.

rkrause · 2012-11-02T21:25:57+00:00

I work as a DJ at a bar. I make about $10/hour before taxes. The bartenders typically will make twice as much as I do in a decent night. Yet I interact directly with patrons, and have to deal with rowdy, obnoxious, and demanding customers as well as fulfill requests. It's a very thankless job honestly. When people leave, they say goodbye to the bartenders and leave a sweet tip for the "experience". I don't get tipped and rarely am I thanked for my service. While it is nice to have a guaranteed wage, I end up making much less than the waitstaff. Our customs in America are all very odd.

FatDIck9 · 2012-11-02T22:31:58+00:00

It's funny that there would be less outrage over this if the person wrote. FUCK YOU! and drew a dick on the tip line.

rkrause · 2012-11-03T02:06:56+00:00

The way I view it, if a server feels it necessary to post a receipt on Reddit with the last-four of a customer's credit card number and the customer's signature for millions of people to view, then the server didn't deserve a tip to begin with. While the mother's actions are ethically questionable, the server's actions are legally questionable. I'm all about tipping, but this response is far more outrageous than the cause. It makes me question the integrity of the people working in the food service industry.

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