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[–]ConfirmedCynic 265 points266 points ago

Two things are apparent here. She's already a "victim" according to the report. And the crime was that she "felt threatened".

Can I have the police hunt for people too based on my feelings?

[–]7oby 91 points92 points ago

Sounds like they need IN-Security. The police are on their way with blankets and hot cocoa.

[–]QueueNX 17 points18 points ago

I could use one of those at teh bus stop at 5am this winter...

[–]ChaplnGrillSgt 49 points50 points ago

Sorry, male privilege means we are lucky enough to have the police ignore us as victims. So privileged!

[–]Synackaon 14 points15 points ago

Don't worry comrade! You are not denied the Glorious Duty of War if we need you!

Your privilege grants you implicit advantage in being unwillingly drafted!

Male privilege all around everybody!

Every man gets the right to die! :D

[–]intensely_human 1 point2 points ago

  1. Buy printable sticker-labels
  2. print this
  3. stick to signs, walls, bathroom stalls everywhere

[–]DerpaNerb 30 points31 points ago

And now we are entering the world of thought crimes. Fuck it's amazing how accurate some writers from 30-40 years ago can be.

[–]Stephen_Morgan 15 points16 points ago

Or 65 years, in Orwell's case.

[–]Mylon 9 points10 points ago

Thought crimes of what the "victim" was thinking the other person was thinking.

[–]NoCowLevel 4 points5 points ago

Liberalism: your rights stop where my feelings start.

[–]DerpaNerb 6 points7 points ago

See, I consider myself a liberal, but I don't think this.

[–]weeglos 1 point2 points ago

Consciously, anyway.

[–]c_vic 2 points3 points ago

Let's not place blame where it doesn't belong. This story isn't liberalism, it's ignorance.

[–]KnobbyNub 24 points25 points ago

Not if you have a penis.

[–]FFFaux 17 points18 points ago

OOH yeah, i got a ton of women who have made me feel bad, can i sue them for like, defamation of character or something?

[–]KrishanuAR 2 points3 points ago

If you're rich enough, probably.

[–]ColdRussianWinter 3 points4 points ago

She said she struggled but could not get away. The man eventually released her when another person approached on the sidewalk, police said.

[–]aGorilla 5 points6 points ago

This comment scares me. I think I'm going to have to report it.

[–]I_wearnopants 1 point2 points ago

To be fair it was probably really creepy, and alot of times an open police report doesn't make the cops actually look for the person. I would've been pretty weirded out if some guy followed me for awhile then got really close and asked if he knew me then walked away, and I am a guy.

[–]nwz123 1 point2 points ago

You could if your feelings were important...but they're not.

[–]RJNDesigner -1 points0 points ago

Exactly what I was going to say. In no way is she a victim.

[–]Bartab 151 points152 points ago

received a report of a third degree assault

http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/c500-599/5650000070.htm

565.070. 1. A person commits the crime of assault in the third degree if:

  1. The person attempts to cause or recklessly causes physical injury to another person; or

  2. With criminal negligence the person causes physical injury to another person by means of a deadly weapon; or

  3. The person purposely places another person in apprehension of immediate physical injury; or

  4. The person recklessly engages in conduct which creates a grave risk of death or serious physical injury to another person; or

  5. The person knowingly causes physical contact with another person knowing the other person will regard the contact as offensive or provocative; or

  6. The person knowingly causes physical contact with an incapacitated person, as defined in section 475.010, which a reasonable person, who is not incapacitated, would consider offensive or provocative.

ShitThatDidntHappen.Txt

Normally I'd just figure the cops were playing along to shut the chick up, but being as this is a university it's quite possible that if this guy is ever identified he will be kicked out simply on this report.

This is power. This is privilege.

[–]ErasmusMRA 63 points64 points ago

It seems third degree assault is a catch-all charge the cops use when nothing happened. #3 is purely subjective. The crime here is appearing threatening to the victim. Whether it was done "purposely" by the perpetrator isn't something the cops are concerned about.

Shrodinger's rapist isn't a fucking joke any more. It's third degree assault.

[–]PacoBedejo 55 points56 points ago

If he didn't want to be threatening, he should have stopped being a 6' tall male. ಠ_ಠ

[–]Rhynocerous 38 points39 points ago

Nothing screams 'violent rapist' like braces

[–]THEAdrian 20 points21 points ago

It usually doesn't scream attractive, and I bet this doesn't happen if he was.

[–]StymieGray 6 points7 points ago

If anyone gets attacked with that crock of shit charge, I will have lost all faith in humanity.

[–]ENTP 6 points7 points ago

If mens rea (ill intent) is not present, then no crime occurred.

[–]EvilFuckingSociopath 5 points6 points ago

Is that true for this particular crime? I know what you're saying is generally correct but it isn't always (see manslaughter for example).

[–]K_Lobstah 0 points1 point ago

It's true in this case. The mens rea here is "purposely". If the report contains all the facts, nothing will come of this.

[–]EvilFuckingSociopath 1 point2 points ago

Good to know.

[–]Old_Pappy_says 1 point2 points ago

I very strongly suspect that the apprehension has to be "reasonable" as well.

[–]2wsy 2 points3 points ago

3 is purely subjective.

Disclaimer: I am not familiar with U.S. law.

How is that? Looking at the definition posted by Bartab it's seems objectively really obvious that the reported incident was not an assault in the third dagree.

[–]frasoftw 5 points6 points ago

I'm fairly sure he's talking about

The person purposely places another person in apprehension of immediate physical injury

"Apprehension of immediate physical injury" depends on how the victim (for lack of a better word) feels, and it is different for every person. Meaning something that makes you suddenly wary for you safety might not make me wary in the same way. Not to mention the difficulty of figuring out whether they actually felt this apprehension or not is most likely impossible.

[–]Papasmurf143 2 points3 points ago

apprehension of physical injury

It also says purposely on the part of the "assailant" but you can't really prove that you didn't because you're rarely taken at your word. If she felt that he was about to hurt him then she is a paranoid, man hating bitch or possibly a rape victim in which case I empathize with her but it's still stupid to try to bring this charge against someone. This is more meant for situations like if someone is swinging at you pretending they are going to hit you.

[–]glassuser 2 points3 points ago

but you can't really prove that you didn't because you're rarely taken at your word

Actually, that's the critical part. You have to prove his purpose. Criminal cases often hinge on proving intent or purpose.

Your examples are exactly what this statute covers. Cases such as someone saying "I'm going to kick your ass", or approaching you with a drawn knife and obvious intent to close on you.

[–]EvilFuckingSociopath 1 point2 points ago

Does this mean anyone talking to someone with Asperger's, anxiety disorder, etc. is assaulting them? Seems like it to me if the only qualifier is that the "victim" feels threatened.

[–]yiNXs 12 points13 points ago

playing along to shut the chick up

That by it self is bad enough. It still enables these paranoids schitzos to walk freely believing they imagination is real, while they really need a different kind of help.

[–]Nokonoko 8 points9 points ago

As others have already identified, it’s only sub-s 3 that fits the facts here.

It’s important to note that while the “apprehension of physical injury” is a physical element, ie, is based on the subjective psychology of the victim, there is also a requirement to establish (beyond reasonable doubt) the defendant’s intent to cause this apprehension.

Of course, the only way to be totally sure is to consult the case law of that jurisdiction, but this is what the drafting suggests.

Common sense and the law are in agreement: no crime has been committed.

[–]M4n 0 points1 point ago

This is insane.

[–]FriendlyVisitor 3 points4 points ago

I think the closest way this could be argued is number three. But the story makes it seem like it wasn't "purposely"

[–]SlapnutsGT 4 points5 points ago

Thanks for this. Was curious on what constituted as 'third degree assault,' what a bullshit police report. I can't believe they actually filed this.

[–]M4n 204 points205 points ago

I pray that they find this criminal soon before he causes more child-like irrational behavior in women.

[–]lets_learn 47 points48 points ago

[–]seabass341 27 points28 points ago

Holy shit, this kid is only 18...

And he was arrested for talking to a woman?!

What the fuck...?!?

[–]flare561 2 points3 points ago

He'd be 19. Which obviously means he should know better.

[–]EnriqueTSB 17 points18 points ago

Okay, I couldn't believe this, I had to look up what was considered third degree assault.

(3) The person purposely places another person in apprehension of immediate physical injury;

It's a stretch, but that's probably what they could pin on him. Happy halloween everyone, remember that you could get arrested if you scare anyone by doing something scary like asking their name.

*Edit: Of course, now I scroll down and see Bartab already commented with the same info. Cheers, mate

[–]Grubnar 13 points14 points ago

Please, keep us updated on this.

[–]Kramanos 7 points8 points ago

This is likely a CYA thing due to reactionary policies that today's institutions tend to be prone to.

In short, somebody probably got attacked in some way recently, and the public responded, reasonably as always, by demanding that the police predict and prevent every single future crime.

Now every male is a potential perpetrator, and must submit to gestapo-like interrogation every time he inadvertently makes a female uncomfortable.

This is the world we live in.

[–]M4n 5 points6 points ago

There has got to be more to this story than talking. If not, we just stepped into an Orwellian nightmare.

thanks for the linkage.

[–]zaferk 0 points1 point ago

Do you support female suffrage?

[–]M4n 1 point2 points ago

yes

[–]intensely_human 1 point2 points ago

I recently had a complaint filed against me because a women I'm in same circles with thought I made her feel uncomfortable. It did not become a legal matter, but it immediately threatened my living situation and I was told that unless she changed her mind I would have to leave.

Others who know her better agree she is high-strung and emotionally over-sensitive at times. But the fact of the matter is she thought I was threatening and that's all that was considered.

It's terrifying, but it can happen. This was about three weeks ago and since then I've been acutely aware of the fact that I have to attract as little attention as possible when I'm around females or it could happen again. At a whim, any female in our society can lock you up. It's not theoretical - it's the reality you're sitting in right now.

[–]M4n 0 points1 point ago

That is only a small part of the loaded gun cocked and pointed at every man's head. All it takes is a woman, society, or law enforcement to pull the trigger, and the man's life as he knew it is over. This power and privilege should not be in their hands.

I advocate men just walk away from every responsibility they have until it changes.

Talk is doing nothing. Men must act.

Deprive society of our labor and money.

Starve the system.

If not men, who will innovate, create, design, supply, build, maintain, protect, and provide ?

Women?

Hardly.

[–]intensely_human 0 points1 point ago

You're suggesting we Galt trip the world into recognizing us?

[–]M4n 0 points1 point ago

I am suggesting immediate action, yes.

Without men, society crumbles. Simple as that.

If they want our labor, money, innovation, creation, design, supply, building, protection, provision, and maintenance, then they cease and remove the inequities men face, and give men and women truly equal footing in the law and society on every level, otherwise the women can take care of themselves.

I can survive in the woods with a knife.

Can they ?

[–]montereyo 0 points1 point ago

Yeah, something clearly happened to the first woman. I really want to see the first CLERY release they referred to.

[–]globalabortion 0 points1 point ago

The first release is the bearhug. The second release was the guy asking if he knew her, and walking away.

[–]montereyo 4 points5 points ago

Yeah, I read through both police reports.

The first report stated that the woman struggled but was unable to get free, and he only let her go when he saw someone else come along, then he ran away. I've actually experienced someone bear-hugging me and pinning my arms down. It was terrifying, it immobilized me, and I freaked the fuck out. And that was someone I knew. Maybe it was a genuine mistake and he thought he knew her, but my guess is that "I thought I knew you" was a lame excuse. There is no way for us, the readers, to know the context either way; only the people who experienced it know that.

So, woman #2 reads a report of a guy who assaulted a woman, then she goes outside and encounters that a guy of that same description following her. He makes her feel threatened (again, we as readers don't know how; we weren't there. We don't know how close he got or what his body language was like). But honestly, if I had felt seriously threatened by a person who had been reported for assault earlier in the day, you bet your ass I would have informed the campus police.

I'm kind of sickened by the attitudes that are being thrown toward the second woman in this thread.

"If she's asked in a survey she'll probably say she was a rape victim now."

"...child-like irrational behavior in women."

All she did was report that a person who had previously that day the previous day been reported for assault had approached her and made her feel threatened. She didn't ask to be referred to as a victim, nor did she decide that he should be charged with third degree assault - that was the university police's decision - yet she's getting vilified in this thread.

[–]globalabortion 1 point2 points ago

Don't get me wrong, I agree. If the bearhug was constricting and not allowing her to move for more than a second, that is grounds for reporting a crime.

I think the real crime here is in the clery releases. They were so badly written that it really obscures the crime itself. Saying "Gave a woman a bearhug from behind, and then said "Sorry, I thought you were someone else.." sounds an awful lot like an awkward guy making a real mistake. I've done it myself.

The second release is even worse, it doesn't convey at all how he acted. Just saying that he asked her if he knew her, and then walking away.. it all just seems very innocent written that way.

The local newspaper was mocking their wording earlier today, so I suppose I am not the only one who feels that way.

Basically, what M4n said. There's no way this is the full story, and that's why it seems so insane.

[–]montereyo 1 point2 points ago

Totally agreed. Also, it may be that the police are required to write up and report all incidents so they didn't really have a choice of not reporting it.

I guess at the end of the day I have to say this: I am a woman who follows men's rights issues with interest and (what I hope is) an open and egalitarian mind. However, it really makes me feel sick to think that if I, myself, were in a similar situation, you guys would jump all over me and call my behavior "child-like and irrational" the same way you did to that woman. Look, dudes, this is not the way to get women on your side.

[–]AskMeAboutMyLobotomy 2 points3 points ago

Holy shit, what is wrong with people?

[–]AvioNaught 2 points3 points ago

He was arrested because he bear hugged and wouldn't let go of the first woman. Slightly more to the story than you think. Look above.

[–]Luxieee 72 points73 points ago

I'm a woman, and reading this has caused an irrational fear deep inside me that I can't explain!!! Someone, help me!!

[–]underskewer 45 points46 points ago

I'm sorry us men at /r/MenRights made you feel uncomfortable. We men don't have to live with the constant fear of being e-raped by men on the internet. Bad me!

[–]StymieGray 18 points19 points ago

Who knows the amount damage we could cause with our E-Penis!?

[–]Totenglocke42 21 points22 points ago

I'm sure 4chan knows.

[–]RedditBlueit 2 points3 points ago

Become an Apple fanboy and upgrade to iPenis!

[–]aChileanDude 2 points3 points ago

I think we all should report ourselves. And then mutually give info.

1500 for each of us!

[–]relevant84 9 points10 points ago

Contact your local authorities before this monster strikes again.

[–]notarapist72 3 points4 points ago

I'm sorry I have destroyed your life.

[–]Luxieee 0 points1 point ago

You're clearly a rapist!!

[–]darkgatherer 1 point2 points ago

Nothing less than the electric chair for him will be tolerated, he's practically or maybe literally Ted Bundy.

[–]0sr0 39 points40 points ago

[–]radiotricity 54 points55 points ago

Being able to ask if someone if you recognize them is a great example of cis male privilege. It's time we put a stop to it.

[–]killyourego 36 points37 points ago

Cis WHITE male privilege you fucking racist pig.

[–]cody_au 22 points23 points ago

I'm sorry please don't fire me I have a mortgage.

[–]11oops 29 points30 points ago

Typical male privilege. Owning a house and shit.

[–]Nicky_Rodeo 32 points33 points ago

Notice his language: I'M sorry please don't fire ME I have a mortgage.

Typical male privilege, its always all about HIM.

[–]Peter_Principle_ 14 points15 points ago

And all those "i"s and "I"s, the most phallic of letters. Spelling rape.

[–]DerpaNerb 5 points6 points ago

Typical male privilege. Owning a house and shit.

He even used the letters "r", "a", "p" and "e" in the same sentence... misogynistic dick.

[–]SmileyMan694 1 point2 points ago

TRIGGER WARNING

[–]deluks917 47 points48 points ago

Is this real?

[–]aChileanDude 9 points10 points ago

it's not fantasy.

[–]legendofpasta 8 points9 points ago

caught in a landslide...

[–]Acheeze 6 points7 points ago

No escape from reality

[–]Unenjoyed 0 points1 point ago

Open your eyes

[–]AlexthePwner 0 points1 point ago

Look up to the sky and seeeee...

[–]AvioNaught 1 point2 points ago

I'm just a poor boy.

[–]boobers3 0 points1 point ago

I need no sympathy

[–]intensely_human 0 points1 point ago

because it's easy come, easy go-off-to-the-penal-colony-never-to-be-seen-again

[–]Jazzeki 25 points26 points ago

suspect of what exactly? would someone please point me in the direction of the law he suposedly broke? or how can he be a "suspect" if there hasn't be comited a crime?

[–]harryballsagna 58 points59 points ago

She felt uncomfortable. Perhaps you missed that part.

[–]Jazzeki 19 points20 points ago

in that case it's a crime to be a woman. makes me uncomfortable and since that's a crime...

[–]harryballsagna 11 points12 points ago

This conversation is making me uncomfortable.

"OFFICER!"

[–]relevant84 9 points10 points ago

Sometimes my shoes make me uncomfortable.

OFFICER!!!!

[–]harryballsagna 7 points8 points ago

"This thread is making me uncomfortable.

ME!"

-An Officer

[–]DerpaNerb 2 points3 points ago

As an officer, do you notice shit like this happening in your department? As in, extremely liberal applications of the law when a women that "feels threatened" is involved?

[–]cody_au 6 points7 points ago

Crimeception! Or maybe more like Minority Report because you're guilty before you even did anything because a bald woman in a milk bath said so.

[–]Luxieee 3 points4 points ago

Crap.

[–]Apellosine 8 points9 points ago

It's in the release there "3rd Degree Assault" for asking if a girl was someone he knew.

[–]carniemechanic 2 points3 points ago

My thoughts, too. What is the crime?

[–]deltron80 0 points1 point ago

I just called the police on you because you made me think you might be feeling uncomfortable about me thinking about what you said.

[–]aweeleprechan 9 points10 points ago

I think this needs to be higher. If this is actually the same guy, it sounds like he might be targeting black women for...something. In the first "incident," there is definitely some scary shit happening. The second might be considered overly reactionist except for the incident the day before.

Getting all up in arms about this seems to be a huge waste of effort, and very likely counterproductive towards finding out if this guy actually did have nefarious deeds in mind.

[–]BitchyFace 0 points1 point ago

Please don't ruin the circle jerk. In the first incident:

came up behind her, and wrapped his arms around her putting her in a "bear hug." The victim tried to free herself but was unable get free. The assault ended when the suspect observed an unknown individual approaching them. The suspect released her and stated, "Oh, I thought you were someone else" and ran from the scene.

I don't know why women get up in arms about being physically restrained by strangers.

[–]aweeleprechan 1 point2 points ago

This post and the responses to it just reminded me of the post the other day saying we, as a sub, were turning into SRS. Hit a little to close to home.

[–]r_rships_account 48 points49 points ago

The second victim felt it might be the same person.

So, even if there was a crime (which there wasn't), there are women happy to ID criminal offenders based on "feelings" and possibilities.

[–]DavidByron 27 points28 points ago

The police could have a serial talker on their hands.

[–]alanwj 2 points3 points ago

I need to confess. Over the course of my life, I've talked to dozens, maybe even hundreds of women. At some point I just lost count. I've talked to small women, large women, tall women, short women, young women, old women, women of every race you can imagine. I've talked to them in a whisper, and I've talked to them with a yell. I've talked to women in at least three different languages. Sometimes I've talked to more than one woman at once. Two women, three women, you name it, sometimes even whole rooms full of women. I've even talked to women and men at the same time.

I think it must have started with my childhood. My mother was a woman. She would talk to me, and I would talk back. Sometimes I would talk to her multiple times per day. This kept on until I moved out to go to college. I didn't talk to her as much anymore, but by that point it had become a habit, and I would still talk to her at least weekly.

[–]DavidByron 0 points1 point ago

Sounds serious. But are you good looking?

[–]deltron80 5 points6 points ago

this "could" "possibly" "be" a "crime"

[–]globalabortion 58 points59 points ago

This is the second one today, mind you. The first clery release I got, a guy bear hugged a girl, then realized he didn't know her, apologized, and left.

While that's quite a bit creepier, I'm not quite sure if it's assault..

[–]AndyAndrophile 47 points48 points ago

You're not quite sure? I'm just in from planet Sanity, let me help you with this: It isn't.

[–]mynameistux 91 points92 points ago

Been there with a guy friend, got confused, hugged a random guy, he was WEIRDED OUT, I apologized and do you know what he said.

"Don't worry mate, no harm done"

AND THEN WE MOVED THE FUCK ON WITH OUR LIVES!

[–]AndyAndrophile 44 points45 points ago

RAPIST! RAPIST! *blows rape whistle* THIS GUY IS A RAPIST, EVERYBODY!

[–]Lokgar 18 points19 points ago

STOP BLAMING THE VICTIM?!

etc.

[–]HamlinMcOink 29 points30 points ago

That random guy shouldn't have dressed like his friend.

[–]intensely_human 0 points1 point ago

You know, if we removed boys' arms at birth we wouldn't have this sort of hugging problem.

Just a thought...

Besides, armpits are hard to keep clean anyway.

[–]NIIAurA 16 points17 points ago

HE MADEME FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE WITH HIS NON-VIOLENT AFFECTIONATE PHYSICAL CONTACT SIR, SOMEONE DO SOMETHING!

[–]Nicky_Rodeo 5 points6 points ago

Won't somebody PLEASE think of the women?!?!?!?

[–]Solesaver 2 points3 points ago

*wimmenz

[–]Saerain 0 points1 point ago

Wymynz. Can't have that ‘men’ in there.

Actually, wxmxnz. Can't have those pesky Ys.

[–]Solesaver 0 points1 point ago

lol, nice.

[–]Revoran 12 points13 points ago

That's not creepy, it's an honest mistake.

Those girls need to simmer the fuck down.

[–]monkat 0 points1 point ago

Something being creepy is entirely on the side of the person being 'creeped'. It is a subjective thing. To one person, something is creepy, to another the same act would be friendly. That's why it's not illegal.

A mistake can be creepy.

[–]JRutterbush 10 points11 points ago

On that one, I can see a person getting scared when someone comes out of nowhere and grabs them like that. A bear hug isn't exactly light contact, especially when you're not expecting it, and it comes from behind. And the guy just ran off, apparently. So in this case, I can see the reasoning behind being scared and making a report.

Reporting someone asking if they know you, on the other hand, is more than a little silly...

[–]cody_au 12 points13 points ago

I believe I may have done this once. You're out shopping with your girlfriend and turn around to put your arm around her but she has already detached to investigate the shoe store and another woman is walking in her place. Awkward but hardly creepy. I've had women to the same thing thinking I was their husband.

[–]Nodbugger 0 points1 point ago

It is even more awkward when your roommate's girlfriend hops into the shower thinking it is your roommate in there.

[–]Greeceshallriseagain 69 points70 points ago

I don't get why you guys are outraged about this.

Clearly this was a penetrative question. How could she not feel violated by the patriarchy?

[–]Jesus_marley 34 points35 points ago

did he fucking rape her in the ear now? Are men such savage beasts that we will forcefully insert our privilege into any hole? shocking.

[–]KnobbyNub 14 points15 points ago

It was word rape in the ear hole. Go get your male muzzle to contain your privilege.

[–]ErasmusMRA 7 points8 points ago

He raped her twenty time with his evil male gaze.

[–]kurtu5 2 points3 points ago

I am not outraged anymore. Amazon just delivered my box of male privilege today! Finally, I am on top and can now do anything.

[–]SCCROW 0 points1 point ago

You can even ask women, "do I know you"....

[–]kurtu5 -1 points0 points ago

Digging around in the box.... no, I can't find that one.

Apparently its not included anymore, oh here it is, no its a version changelog.

Hmm... its says this feature has been deprecated in the current version.

[–]deltron80 -1 points0 points ago

Asking someone "do I know you" is a form of rape recognized in 37 states.

[–]Infuser 34 points35 points ago

... is described as a white male...

... were African American females...

Anyone else have the thought of, "oh god, black people just all look the same to him..." ?

[–]JudgeWhoAllowsStuff 20 points21 points ago

"Aren't you Whoopi Goldberg!?"

[–]perilouspillow 10 points11 points ago

that is exactly what I thought

[–]Bobsutan 16 points17 points ago

Um, victim of what? Being asked a question causes harm now? /feminist logic

[–]CaptainVulva 1 point2 points ago

Ok, you've heard of DWB, right? I think this goes along the same lines

[–]andreipmbcn 13 points14 points ago

Please give us the appropriate email address to send our complaint letters. This is a dangerous attitude.

[–]merlin34 14 points15 points ago

Last night I was walking down the hall at school. I had my iPod in ears so I wasn't hearing much around me. Something caught the corner of my eye and I looked to see a girl walking beside me probably less than 2 feet away (bear in mind that the hall was not crowded, as it was night). My eyes widened for a second and I moved a bit so she wouldn't run into me. She said, "Sorry." I said, "It's fine." Then we moved on with our fucking lives.

[–]Peter_Principle_ 8 points9 points ago

Then we moved on with our fucking lives.

The fortitude you exhibit in the face of a terrible rape-like tragedy such as that is truly an inspiration for us all.

[–]merlin34 2 points3 points ago

But that sick perverted woman is still out there, causing hundreds of more men the same half-second of surprise and mild awkwardness she caused me.

[–]Boss_Monkey 13 points14 points ago

Thought police? Feelings police.

[–]dungone 11 points12 points ago

So the girl just suddenly stopped in the middle of a staircase... and it surprised her when then guy walking behind her asked, "do I know you?" That guy must have been pretty weirded out.

[–]FurriesRuinEverythin 11 points12 points ago

Oh my god. She was almost raped!

[–]cody_au 13 points14 points ago

Almost? Misoginist!

[–]DavidByron 3 points4 points ago

Yes if she's asked in a survey she'll probably say she was a rape victim now.

[–]alphabetpal 2 points3 points ago

If she was almost raped, it's rape. Kill him!

[–]FuquanMcCain 10 points11 points ago

Talking to someone is now third degree assault? Fuck everything.

[–]DavidByron 6 points7 points ago

Only if you're male and not hot looking.

[–]Nillerz 19 points20 points ago

I felt threatened... well stop being such a pussy.

[–]M1s4n7hr0p3 9 points10 points ago

So asking a woman a question constitutes a verbal assault? I love that they are referred to as "victims" rather than "complainants". No crime has occurred, unless trespassing which the report fails to make mention of. Being creepy is not a crime in and of itself. The fact that there was more than one "victim" hints to me that there is more to the story regarding his mannerisms or there is a high density illogical women who will go out of their way to file a police report for something so inane.

[–]altmehere 3 points4 points ago

The fact that there was more than one "victim" hints to me that there is more to the story regarding his mannerisms or there is a high density illogical women who will go out of their way to file a police report for something so inane.

It would be helpful to know more about the earlier incident.

My first thought was that the police may have been quick to associate two different incidents even if there isn't much to support that it was the same individual. Not that there's no chance that it is, but it sounds a lot less certain when given the story in the email.

[–]FriendlyVisitor 2 points3 points ago

A thin*

[–]Xenoith 10 points11 points ago

"Victims" rofl. You know, I'm not saying this on behalf of you guys, but I personally wouldn't mind if people like this didn't exist. So ridiculous.

[–]Apellosine 8 points9 points ago

I wouldn't want to be a 6' tall guy with bracers at that university after this was released. Especially trying to talk to people or gasp Female People

[–]Your_Fun_Counselor 6 points7 points ago

She initiated contact with the "suspect" by stopping. Even the most dense realize this.

[–]buster2209 6 points7 points ago

Third degree assault? Victim? 1984 has arrived...

[–]T-rex_with_a_gun 3 points4 points ago

the rapist: http://mupolice.com/clery/October2012

look how he is raping us with his eyes

[–]seabass341 -1 points0 points ago

He looks like a fucking alien, lol.

[–]T-rex_with_a_gun -1 points0 points ago

isn't that all white cis males?

[–]jordanreiter 5 points6 points ago

Just want to point out that in the report it says that he got very close to her. It says that she felt threatened.

I'm a man, but there have definitely been times when someone has looked at me in a way that made me feel threatened, so I can definitely identify this feeling. Also, I sometimes get paranoid in parking garages. If I was all by myself and someone walked right up to me I'd be freaked out too.

The point isn't that the man actually did something. The point is that he interacted with her in a way that suggests he doesn't respect boundaries. If this guy feels that it's okay to invade her personal space, maybe he feels it's okay to do other things too?

If this happened to me only the genders were reversed, I would feel like I couldn't go to the police because they wouldn't take it seriously. If you care about gender equality, you should fight for that -- the right for both women's and men's fears to be taken seriously.

[–]obermaster 7 points8 points ago

Maybe he should have asked "do I know you?" instead of stating "do I know you." it would have been way less threatening :)

[–]NyoZa 1 point2 points ago

This is soooooo fucking stupid.

[–]Knugent123 1 point2 points ago

This is plain and simply pathetic.

[–]Canadian4Paul 3 points4 points ago

This is why chivalry is dead. Men can't talk to a woman, let alone hold a door open for one without being seen as threatening or creepy.

[–]9mmCensor 0 points1 point ago

almost raped

[–]DavidByron 1 point2 points ago

So I guess they used to kill black men for looking at white women, and nowadays they want to arrest white men on assault charges for saying hello to black women. I suppose that's some sort of racial advance.

But as for the sexism it's worse now than it ever has been. Who else gets people arrested just for saying hello or a completely normal interaction? Maybe a president or someone else under secret service protection? But I am not sure even then they would be arrested for not even touching them. Not for an interaction completely within normal parameters. Just because the person they are protecting got a funny vibe? But let's say the SS would make an arrest there.

Women are now demanding a privilege level only seen by men if they are world leaders. Is this an isolated incident? Hell no.

Well maybe isolated as far as cops actually taking this seriously, but its something feminists are working towards. The expansion of sexual harassment laws far beyond their initial justification to make any rudeness against a woman into a crime. That alone would just be a throwback to Victorian morality, and there are still laws on the books making it a crime to swear in front of a woman. But the courts throw them out as they come out because the sexism is too obvious. Feminists are now making new laws that say it's OK to arrest men for not being sufficiently respectful of the female presence.

You could see this whole "Elevatorgate" incident as a policy suggestion to make talking to women in public a crime. It is clear that feminists want to see something dreadfully wrong with exactly this sort of scenario. Society has enforced these women's most evil prejudices in the past at the cost of mens lives, and it seems happy to bring the same sort of laws back. They were being eliminated on the grounds of how prejudiced they are, but now feminists want them back with a new seal of approval that this time it's sexist to NOT arrest a man for looking at a woman or saying something to her in public.

[–]DuchessofYanks 0 points1 point ago

Victims? Victims? Nothing happened to them!

[–]Snooves 1 point2 points ago

Soooooooo asking someone a question makes them a victim of "Third degree assault"? That's sickening.

[–]Papasmurf143 -1 points0 points ago

Not only is this horribly offensive in that she makes the assumption that every man that tries to talk to her is an sexual predator or some stupid shit, but calling it a third degree assault makes light of legitimate assault victims.

[–]ConservativeSpin -1 points0 points ago

/nottheonion

[–]miezu78 -1 points0 points ago

No means no

[–]SCCROW 0 points1 point ago

Clearly, this man likes violently raping women's ears with his mouth.

Concrete evidence that we live in a rape culture.

[–]Vordreller 1 point2 points ago

Just posting this here: http://i.imgur.com/s9qUo.jpg

[–]SCCROW 1 point2 points ago

Where did you get those picture of me!??!!!

[–]Vordreller 1 point2 points ago

Of you? It's a drawing, not a picture.

[–]pastel-forest 0 points1 point ago

Not only an insult to the rights of men, but to anyone who has actually ever been assaulted.

[–]scurvebeard 0 points1 point ago

Arrested based on accusations, no evidence yet... release his name to the whole damn world.

[–]invertedcross 0 points1 point ago

If the colour of their skin was swapped this would be called racism immediately. Think on that.

[–]TubesBestNoob -1 points0 points ago

Black + woman = victim. Check your privilege!

/s

[–]notarapist72 -1 points0 points ago

So now I'm not allowed to say anything to anyone?

[–]smtmiz 1 point2 points ago

Update in case, he was arrested. Link

[–]Raidicus 1 point2 points ago

In short, if he has a decent lawyer, he will have all the charges dropped.

[–]Sprocketlord 1 point2 points ago

Well, he may be able to clear some things up if they find him. More than likely he has no idea he is being investigated. The mention of previous people encountering him in a similar manner are a little weird.

[–]megatuxracer -2 points-1 points ago

The horrors those ladies at MU are going through...

[–]IcktonBawe -1 points0 points ago

Might as well get a lynchmob going, he clearly only has one thing on his mind. Only a matter of time before he murders us all and fucks the corpses.

[–]deltron80 1 point2 points ago

Women are afraid to ask men out because they may experience "slut shaming." Men are afraid to ask women out because they could be arrested for third degree assault.

[–]Mekongcola -1 points0 points ago

[–]gazork_chumble_spuzz -1 points0 points ago

How are they victims when all this person did was make them feel uncomfortable? He didn't touch them. He didn't utter any threats. He didn't expose his genitals. He didn't chase them. He did not wave a weapon in their faces. All he did was walk up the stairs and ask "do I know you" while standing close. ?? How is that an assault? How are these women victims? HOW IS THIS A CRIME?

[–]Trenticle 0 points1 point ago

I don't know if I necessarily agree with filing the police report, but something no one is grasping here is why TWO different women filed reports... I'm all for men's rights and anti femnazism but this guy was probably drooling and breathing extremely heavily and just looking creepy as fuck when he asked the girl if he knew her... some of you guys might have been freaked out too... this entire article could really be taken out of context since we have no idea what the guy actually did... just saying yeah he said this one silly line let's back him doesn't mean he wasn't massaging his dick and looking them up and down like he was going to eat them for dinner.

[–]Felicity_Saucypants 2 points3 points ago

This. Given, there are some petty bitches out there, in most cases there's gotta be some solid creeper signals that she and another girl even bothered to tell the police.

[–]goofproofacorn -2 points-1 points ago

Hate to point this out but, african american and female. Really playing up the victim card with this one.

[–]MsManifesto -1 points0 points ago

Had to sign in just to downvote this. Essentialist beliefs, such as the one expressed here, are just as denigrating, counterproductive, and pernicious as the essentialist belief that nearly every male who approaches a female is a sexual predator. I hope you can see that now.

This is not to say that these women are not acting in a way that is harmful, but that the point is to see everyone as an individual (not a race, gender, social class, personality type, etc.), and thus to hold individuals responsible for their own actions.