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[–]Gurgi3 572 points573 points ago

Yeah . . now you just need to find out that you're also paying to attend class

[–]tswpoker1 145 points146 points ago

Can't emphasize this enough. I skipped many classes early and just got in the habit of not going. My grades suffered and classes had to be retaken, and I had the luxury of finding out that I get to pay for them again. Also, it is so, so much easier to succeed in class simply by showing up.

[–]Tarblz 10 points11 points ago

I've got a class where the professor does nothing but insult everyone who can't learn his material on the first try.

I've stopped going to his class solely because it makes me depressed.

[–]ThatUsernameWasTaken 23 points24 points ago

Report him to the dean, or some other higher-level authority. Abusive teacher should be reprimanded, and that won't happen unless his bosses know what's happening. See if you can get signatures/support from other students in the class, too, so you don't just look like a single pissed-off student.

[–]Cerevox 24 points25 points ago

And then you discover that he is a nobel prize winner in some science and is only there to do research. Not only that, he is tenured and pulls in millions of dollars in grants.

At that point, the only way he would receive any sort of punishment is if he ran through the class slapping students with his dick, and even then he might keep his tenure even in jail. Seriously, Google around for tenured professors in jail for murder with their tenure intact. It is a crazy system.

[–]dalco 8 points9 points ago

Yea... Googled that and nothing of the sort popped up. Gonna say you are exaggerating unless you could provide a link. Tenure is awesome but not that awesome.

[–]GundamWang 5 points6 points ago

I guess now we know one of dalco's fantasies is to run around slapping college students in the face with his dick. As a tenured professor.

[–]dalco 1 point2 points ago

And yours isn't?!

[–]gwarsh41 4 points5 points ago

On in my school's case it is a friend of the division chair. Honestly, the division chairs friends husband was made a department chair. His only experience was being a manager at wallgreens.

[–]UrbtoOSU 1 point2 points ago

Yep, we had a notoriously awful guy teaching control theory where I was at. Just before graduation there are group sessions with a dean that act as exit interviews where we bring up complaints. He sat there really concerned nodding as we spoke to him at length about this professor, but the whole time he had to have been sitting there thinking "Can't do shit, he's tenured."

[–]jinglebean 6 points7 points ago

[–]ShouldBeZZZ 1 point2 points ago

Yea, this sounds like bullshit. People will tell themselves anything to make them feel better about not going to class.

[–]all4sheets 0 points1 point ago

Just remember, if he's not going to teach you, you're just using him to get a piece of paper. Once you get that grade, you're done. It helped me when I had awful professors.

[–]drketchup 36 points37 points ago

Except that 90% of people pay to get a degree and don't give a shit about actually learning.

[–]alphemale 16 points17 points ago

Seriously. And it's so easy to get a degree these days -- with the internet & laptops. Back in my day, we took notes with a friggen pen & paper! waves cane

[–]Russlethud 15 points16 points ago

I'm a freshman in college and I still take notes with pen and paper.

[–]Fluffiebunnie 14 points15 points ago

Many remember it better when they have written it down with a pen.

[–]Lokky 8 points9 points ago

also a well organized notebook is a much better resource to consult than a bunch of files on your pc, not to mention it'd be very hard to take notes on a pc in a chemistry or math class.

[–]hypermark 2 points3 points ago

Most studies also show that retention is higher with pen and paper because there aren't as many distractions. Far too many students think they'll use the computer and then end up browsing the internet for checking Facebook instead of taking notes.

[–]acepiloto 0 points1 point ago

I learned to organize my notes a long time ago with pen and paper. Each class I would start a new page with the date and write a generally descriptive title to the lecture. When I went to college many years later (just graduated this year) I just kept a google doc for each class and kept the same format. I feel I retained the information just as well as when I used pen and paper.

[–]GoldieFox 0 points1 point ago

Actually, many science profs tend to post lecture slides online in advance (on account of diagrams &c), and it's very easy to take a selection from them and paste them into a notes program. It's actually easier to use a laptop in science classes, since the profs tend to slow down and take their time explaining things.

It's harder in arts courses, where the prof just lectures real fast and you don't have time to get distracted by typos and formatting and whatnot. Though when that's the case usually your notebook will be a mess (on account of writing fast), so you'll need to type your stuff up anyways.

** I'm in an integrative arts/sci program at my university, so I do both.

[–]somkun 0 points1 point ago

tomboy with the LaTeX plugin. I can type at 56wpm and I'm a Senior in CS, I code the fuck out of my math teacher's equations.

[–]Sloth_speed 2 points3 points ago

I can't even imagine taking notes on a computer. I'm always scribbling things in the margins of my notebook, and I retain much more when I use a pen/pencil and rewrite my notes.

[–]Russlethud 2 points3 points ago

I think the only people that take notes on a laptop are probably more interested in browsing reddit or playing minecraft then paying attention.

[–]doomgiver98 -1 points0 points ago

It gets ingrained more efficiently when I write with pen and paper. I'm also in physics and half the stuff you can't do with freeware.

[–]alphemale 0 points1 point ago

Are you too busy browsing Reddit on your laptop?

[–]JackWeston007 3 points4 points ago

I hear that. I've been programming as a hobby since I was 13, and now I'm in university for comp sci. It really feels like I'm paying an exuberant amount for a piece of paper.

[–]festyear 19 points20 points ago

I've been a professional developer for 10 years and the number of good programmers who boast about programming since childhood and the number of shit ones who do the same are roughly equal. Study up

[–]SwahiliToad 8 points9 points ago

College is about more than a piece of paper. There is also much more to computer science than programming. At college you have access to experts in the field who are actively doing research, and many of them are really excited when a student shows interest in their work.

School will be what you make of it. You get 4 short years to experiment with what you like and explore your interests.

[–]iamdanhi 3 points4 points ago

I'm not comp sci but chemistry and I just started getting some research experience with a professor who became the head of the dept, and was head of the premed/pharma stuff. She has many friends that can help students in their time past undergrad too it seems. Plus she's just an all around awesome person. I get to "play" around with machines that I'd never encounter just doing undergrad work.

There really is a lot more to college than just going through, grinding through the classes, and getting a piece of paper.

[–]Rhodonite 0 points1 point ago

I agree. I am in my senior year, and i could not tell you anything that i have learned these past three years. It is almost like i was never even there. My University just makes it too easy to pass tests without even having to attend class, or learn. Its all memorization for the tests, then after test day I just throw it all away.

[–]hot_skillet 13 points14 points ago

I skipped a LOT of classes and my grades suffered because of it. Now I have my degree but I'm having trouble finding a job (GPA was only 2.87) AND I have $65,000 in student loans. FFFUUUUUUUUUU

[–]alphemale 9 points10 points ago

I've been out of college a while, but I don't remember employers asking for GPAs. Do that do that BS now?

[–]veidt_co 1 point2 points ago

Recently out of college, didn't list my GPA on my resume. It wasn't as bad a his (3.5) but, I was only asked for it once. And it was in the context that I worked 25 hours a week doing tech support the whole time, so the interviewer asked if my grades had suffered. I just as easily could have said "yes" or "no".

My guess is that OP either lists it directly on his resume, or it's the sort of thing where interviewers are grasping at straws trying to come up with a reason to keep talking to him.

[–]mizike 3 points4 points ago

It depends on the job, in my field I've never seen a job posting that didn't require transcripts for a "junior" position. Once you have 5+ years experience you usually don't have to provide them, but for entry level they're basically a requirement. I've even seen some places that ask for original transcripts directly from your university which is fucking crazy as it means I have to pay $10 just to apply to the job. Luckily I work for myself now so I don't have to deal with that bullshit.

[–]discoanddeath 0 points1 point ago

You either are terrible at interviewing or you didn't apply yourself and find an internship during school. I had a 2.1 in my major and a 2.3 overall and I found a good job. Go get some interviewing tips.

[–]jonnyrotten7 3 points4 points ago

Seriously, almost every class I've ever taken in law school, the teachers just say everything that you can find in the casebooks, supplements, etc. They're not saying anything groundbreaking that's not in the books, which were usually written by much smarter people. If attendance wasn't required, I could skip literally every class and pass with the same grade. Some people aren't like that, but that's just the case for me.

[–]Frank_Sandbeans[S] 0 points1 point ago

I just graduated from law school last year and you're are absolutely right. I got much more insight from study supplements such as (insert subject here) in a nutshell and crunchtime. It seems like a lot of professors simply let the class steer the discussion of the facts and issues themselves. This discussion was inevitably led almost entirely by the gunners, most of whom had no idea what the fuck they were talking about. The professor would then simply regurgitate the rule and analysis from the text itself. I learned MUCH more on my own.

[–]ILoveTrance 7 points8 points ago

More people go to college for free than you would think.

[–]mookler 37 points38 points ago

Someone is paying for it.

[–]alphemale 0 points1 point ago

I love trance too!

[–]arsonall 5 points6 points ago

and that's a reason to "pretend" that you're taking a class?

don't get me wrong, some people have different learning practices than others, but that still doesn't mean that not going to class will result in the best of learning experiences.

(also, just because one doesn't pay out of pocket, does not mean that the teacher also is free, they're paid somehow, whether it's from taxes, or some other funding)

[–]ILoveTrance 4 points5 points ago

I never made that argument.

[–]haloimplant 2 points3 points ago

True but some professors are not very good lecturers, especially in engineering, and watching them stammer though the textbook content almost verbatim is a waste of time.

In those cases all I really got for my money was permission to complete the tests/labs/assignments and earn the credit.

Some semesters I only had 1 or 2 professors that were worth going to really. Given that I was bailing on lectures because they didn't provide any non-textbook information or insight, my grades didn't suffer. In fact they could have been better since it freed up time to relax, stay rested and work on the harder material.

[–]howerpower 6 points7 points ago

I'm paying to get the credit. I didn't make the rule that I need so many history/government classes to get my engineering degree, but that doesn't mean I need to waste my time in the class.

[–]idobutidont 6 points7 points ago

Right, because who ever needed to know about how the government works or what has happened in the past? ಠ_ಠ

[–]tucktuckgoose 5 points6 points ago

People smarter than you, including smart faculty on the curriculum committee in the college of engineering, felt you needed these classes to become a well-rounded professional. Check them out; you might learn something that will be valuable to you after college.

[–]Fonzie8819 3 points4 points ago

You don't necessarily HAVE to go to class to do well, it just helps out, a lot.

[–]pureskill 2 points3 points ago

In some classes it helps out a lot. In others, it's a huge time suck. Going to college affords you freedom you didn't have in high school, freedom to make decisions for yourself. For me, some classes it did not pay to attend. I was able to learn just as well from Powerpoints and the textbook. It was more productive for me to use that time to work in my research lab, do homework, or study for an upcoming test in another class.

Of course if you're not attending because your playing video games in your dorm or sleeping off a hangover, that's a different story.

[–]JayGatsby727 3 points4 points ago

I'm paying for a degree and the prerequisites to attend medical school. I know that, and I know that I don't learn anything by attending lecture. I'm not trying to discourage people from going to class, but some people (like me) learn much much better on their own, and would probably spend their time better without going to a lecture that they know they will not learn from.

[–]pokie6 5 points6 points ago

:shrug: If the class follows the textbook closely I skipped it and I did just fine.

No professor ever took attendance either - what, is this grade school?

[–]festyear 0 points1 point ago

Saw there were 117 comments and I still clicked in thinking I would be first to make this point. I shouldn't underestimate the internet I guess

[–]IronicLemon -1 points0 points ago

To be fair, the only times I have ever skipped class are for classes that are required to graduate but have no bearing on me whatsoever. I.E. if attendance isn't taken there is no way I'm waking up at 8 am for a Gen Psych lecture at an engineering school. OP could be similar, but probably isnt.

[–]Captain-Kenneth 1 point2 points ago

I've always seen it as if it's more like you're paying for permission to take exams. Anyone can turn up to a lecture for free or a tutorial if you have a good enough excuse. As long as you do your work one way or another and make the grade, I don't see non-attendance as a waste of money.

[–]djcuisine 0 points1 point ago

sounds like mommy and daddy are paying...

[–]lolrsk8s_2 1 point2 points ago

No, you're paying for the credit hours and ultimately the degree.

[–]yourmattg 0 points1 point ago

True, but if a lecture really isn't helpful to you, you shouldn't go. For example, I can learn most of the material in gen-eds on my own time and usually at a quicker pace. I've had a lot of great professors in CS whose lectures I always attended, but if I'm stuck with a lecturer who I find confusing or otherwise unhelpful, there's no point in wasting my time going.

Tuition is a sunk cost. You're paying whether you go to class or not, so you might as well use your best judgement for if its worth spending your time in class.

I would agree, however, that most people missing class aren't doing it for a good reason.

[–]goingnowherespecial 0 points1 point ago

came here to say this. Pays to attend college then doesn't attend classes. Good one.

[–]AdjutantStormy 205 points206 points ago

What kind of professor takes attendance?

This isn't daycare.

[–]NightOwl58 49 points50 points ago

A few of my professors. But then again, I'm in a community college.

So daycare.

[–]TheLifelessOne 20 points21 points ago

The college I go to, which is also a community college, has school wide policy that professors have to take attendance.

[–]HorizonShadow 11 points12 points ago

The university I go to has this as well.

Also no technology in the classroom.

[–]aspbergerinparadise 23 points24 points ago

that's a dumb rule. No over-head projectors, or electric lights? What, do you go to Amish University?

[–]khanfusion 15 points16 points ago

Hey now, Amish U has a pretty badass programs in barn engineering and apple butter science.

[–]aspbergerinparadise 6 points7 points ago

I majored in churning with a minor in milking. It was a pilot program where they collaborated with Bovine University.

[–]AdjutantStormy 2 points3 points ago

Go Cows!

[–]Zelcron 1 point2 points ago

No, you misunderstand. No technology at all. No smelting, no stirrups, no pottery, no textiles. We're talking straight up state of nature here.

[–]dg10050 2 points3 points ago

No technology. So no clothing, glasses, chairs, etc.

[–]sambojomo 0 points1 point ago

But...my hearing aids.... :( I'll never learn anything now.

[–]TheLifelessOne 0 points1 point ago

Most of my professors prefer that we don't use any tech in class, but most of them are okay with students using their laptops (or tablets) take notes.

[–]Campollia 0 points1 point ago

Same here. It's for employability purposes. If you miss a day without a real legit excuse, you get 5% off your overall grade at the end of the session.

[–]R3G3R 1 point2 points ago

I went to a big University in Indiana and they just started requiring that professors take attendance.. Some did and some still didn't. This policy was put in place because of the amount of student loans being given out. They wanted to know that students were actually going to class and spending the student loan money to go to school and not spend it otherwise. I think if you even missed a certain amount of classes you could potentially have your student loans taken away.

[–]IanFin 1 point2 points ago

I teach college and ignore that rule as do many other profs.

[–]sambojomo 0 points1 point ago

I've had attendance taken more regularly at the University that I attend than at the Community College that I went to. And some don't take attendance, but part of your grade is based on your participation in class either in discussions or with a radio frequency response card.

[–]qrtr_inch_seam 0 points1 point ago

My husband is a professor at a community college and he hates this requirement. Show up to class, do the readings, study, you'll do great. Don't show up, don't do the readings, good luck with that.

[–]CalicoBlue 14 points15 points ago

For small classes that meet once a week, attendance is often taken. Especially if it's a discussion based class where your grade is a combination of participation and writing.

[–]DollarsThanSense 7 points8 points ago

These are sometimes called "tutorials". In STEM topics, tutorials are someone writing non stop on a blackboard while speaking rapidly in a thick Indian accent. Tutorials in the humanities are sitting around and answering some questions, but attendance is still recorded for some reason even though nothing of value was given by the students.

[–]Because_Im_mad 5 points6 points ago

Accurate, the thick accent isn't always Indian. Mine are Russian, French, and Indian. Have to include the others.

[–]doomgiver98 0 points1 point ago

Mine are mostly Russian. I had a thick Chinese accented prof. Maybe I don't notice French accents because I'm Canadian and I'm used to them, but mine weren't that bad.

[–]AdjutantStormy 2 points3 points ago

participation

Daycare.

[–]Daelus 4 points5 points ago

As a professor, I was required to take attendance due to scholarships. If a student signs up for a class and doesn't show up, their scholarship/military educational benefits could be cut, and they'd have to pay out of pocket.

[–]AdjutantStormy 1 point2 points ago

Well that sucks, but it does seem tantamount to babysitting.

[–]92235 0 points1 point ago

That is like saying that if a company takes attendance and if an employee doesn't show up and is fired that it is tantamount to babysitting. Someone is paying for them to be there and if they aren't there they should be treated like a child.

[–]aevv 2 points3 points ago

here in the UK, international students are required to attend in order to maintain their visa, so pretty much every class i go to takes attendance due to the number of international students.

[–]Moerty 1 point2 points ago

probably has his education paid for by someone else.

[–]Zenitram 1 point2 points ago

State funding requirements are also tightening down. They want statistics.

[–]source4man 0 points1 point ago

I've found that if you have small class sizes, it's more that the professor (and other students) will notice that you're gone, even if attendance isn't taken.

[–]jonnyrotten7 1 point2 points ago

The state bar requires attendance in law school, so that's one example.

[–]Hexogen -1 points0 points ago

Gen eds. They get all pissy that no one takes the class seriously since it's required and the students don't want to be there. I found that most professors who threatened your grade for attendance were just bluffing.

[–]Davecasa 0 points1 point ago

I took attendance in the classes I TA'd, it counted for 5% of the grade. With zero exceptions, everyone who showed up for class, passed it. Crazy how that happens.

[–]ColdStainlessNail 0 points1 point ago

I do, but don't require it. It's halpfel to have to see who is missing too frequently so I can contact them. I don't have much of an attendance issue, either.

[–]naryn 0 points1 point ago

That was my thought, I get marked for seminars that have about 10 people in, but trying to mark attendance for my lectures that have about 250 people in?

You pay for university, it's not compulsory so you shouldn't need to take attendance, if people don't want to show up that's their own fault

[–]still_me 0 points1 point ago

I am frequently asked for students' last date of attendance for student loan audits. In addition, at the end of the semester I have to provide it for any student who earned an F.

[–]dan_457 0 points1 point ago

Financial Aid. For my shcool it's a one of those things where they want to make sure you aren't wasting state funds, and are actually attending classes.

[–]mysticrhythms 0 points1 point ago

I'm required to.

[–]KICKERMAN360 0 points1 point ago

Some of my classes do. The logic is, if people complain about failing, and never turned up to class, they don't get any special treatment (a resit, for example). But if you did turn up, they may give you a PC (Pass conceded).

[–]StoryGopher 0 points1 point ago

A few of my professors told us if we were really struggling but we participated and showed up and shit they're more apt to do favours for you, like stay after class to discuss the material with you personally or answer things that "we should know" or give you hints on the test material or even bump you just a little on the midterm so you can still hope to pass. But if you don't show up eat a fucking dick.

[–]brungo 81 points82 points ago

I'll take my sub with extra peppers.

[–]Frog-Eater 11 points12 points ago

/thread

[–]dannothemanno 3 points4 points ago

Yeah, can you please put the milk in a separate bag?

Thanks!

[–]SoManyNinjas 18 points19 points ago

As a cashier and bagger, who attends college and is very serious about going to class regularly and making good grades, I feel you are making a sweeping generalization.

(milk goes in a separate bag by default)

[–]triple110 4 points5 points ago

I have found very few baggers that actually put milk in a bag. Usually you have to ask, many times twice, to put milk in a bag. It's not their fault, that's how they are trained.

But usually I just tell the bagger to go help other customers while I bag. I usually get it done just as fast and it give me something to do while I wait for the cashier to finish ringing up everything. I have yelled at many a manager and corporate dbag who try and scold the baggers for not bagging my groceries.

I recall one time that corporate was doing their monthly 'inspection' and one asshole (who has probably never bagged a day in his life) was giving one of the newbies a particularly hard time during my trip to Safeway. Making making the kid follow him around and clean scuff marks from the bottom of the meat freezer bumper (yeah the black rubber bumpers) and told him he should be cleaning them during his shift. Mean while the cashiers have called for assistance several times and he is told to ignore them.

Later, when I was checking out, he was my bagger and I told him to help other customers because they were busy and short handed. Here comes mister asshole from the managers office and starts yelling at him in front of customers and told him he should fire him for not bagging on my line (other customers are watching and saying nothing). I went over and explained the situation about it being my request to which he told me it was none of my business. I don't respond well to abusive micro-managers telling me to 'mind my own business'. This began a series of events to which I purposely humiliated him in front of all the customers and employees. I told him 'Do not talk to your employees like that!" and ran down a list of tasks that I had him observed him having that poor newb do in front of everyone. I told (I don't mean physically) him to apologize to the bagger and all the customers who were now standing around watching the situation.

The last thing I said was, "Instead of walking around with a clipboard having employees follow you around doing things you tell them are wrong, why don't you get on your hands and knees scrubbing the BS that only you give a shit about. You are obviously short handed so instead of pitching in to help, you run around with your self-important attitude making 3-4 times as much as the rest of the employees while contributing nothing to actually solving the issues. I can't tell you how many times that these corporate run store employees hate when corporate pays them a visit because they can't get their jobs done without some asshole looking for someone to yell at over shit that doesn't matter so they can make themselves feel important. Do you know what happens the very next day after you guys leave, the store goes back to normal and runs more efficiently. So do yourself a favor, apologize to him (the bagger) and the other customers standing in line. Then fire yourself in exchange for hiring 3 other employees so these issues can actually be dealt with. Christ, what the hell is wrong with you?!"

He apologized to me and went to walk away...I said, "No, not to me, I don't give a shit what you think. To him and them" (pointing to everyone else around). He said he was very sorry and went back to the head managers office. A few people who were watching started clapping and the bagger (who was 16) thanked me and started welling up. I consoled him and told him to never let anyone walk all over you, regardless of your position. I told him I didn't need to be thanked because everyone should stick up for others.

/storytime and not sure what sparked that rant.

[–]qrystalballer 27 points28 points ago

This is correct.

On quiz days, I had 57 students attend lecture. On other days it was closer to 30... Their loss.

THEIR LOSS!

[–]TheMeaning0fLife 15 points16 points ago

My programming professor, on the day of the midterm, actually took attendance because he couldn't believe that so many people actually showed up. He normally lectures to a class of ~20, but at least 75 people showed up to write the midterm. He thought a joke was being played on him.

[–]The_Whisperer 5 points6 points ago

holy crap

[–]FalloutRip 3 points4 points ago

I find this is pretty standard affair in programming and computer science classes. In every single one I've ever taken, by about 3-4 weeks in 60-70% of the class rarely show up for lectures, and it's always a full house for quizzes and exams.

[–]AGodlessHeathen 3 points4 points ago

I personally cannot stand my current CSE professor. His lectures are extremely boring and I always leave there more confused than I am when I arrive. So I pretty much skip CSE lectures and go to everything else (even though I'm a CSE major).

[–]naryn 2 points3 points ago

It's CSE, I'm pretty sure boring was in the description.

[–]AGodlessHeathen 0 points1 point ago

Well, my other professor was entertaining to listen to. This guy is just... annoying

[–]qrystalballer 1 point2 points ago

The class I was teaching was introductory electromagnetism. I guess not everyone shares my love of physics...

edit: In defense of my lectures: nearly everything I covered in lecture was mirrored on the quizzes/exams. I spent a lot of time prepping the lecture material to sync with the lab and discussion. So, while normally it would make sense to skip lectures, as they can deviate from what matters, it was quite detrimental to the students who did not show up.

I wish I had taken attendance, if only to correlate final grades with that data.

[–]doomgiver98 -1 points0 points ago

Everyone should always go to the first class, no matter what.

[–]blueboybob 50 points51 points ago

i dont take attendance but test grades tell me who doesnt show up to class

[–]GeekAesthete 2 points3 points ago

My university strongly encourages attendance, but I don't like the high school mentality that it perpetuates, and I hate dealing with all the excuses (plus, I would personally prefer that the students who don't want to be there not show up). So I just give five pop quizzes over the course of the semester and drop the lowest grade. If you miss one or two classes, you're probably fine. If you skip a lot of classes, you roll the dice.

My only gripe about not taking attendance is not being able to penalize the jerks who habitually roll in 10 minutes late. Fuck those guys.

[–]RagingPigeon -1 points0 points ago

I certainly hope most professors think that when they give tests, the scores are based on who attends, and less so on the quality of the teaching.

[–]quickdrinkthis 100 points101 points ago

fucking freshmen

[–]Democritus477 2 points3 points ago

It's like two memes in one

[–]TigerWylde 26 points27 points ago

Most professors don't - because you already paid to be there - leaving would be like going through the drive through, paying, then driving off without your meal and thinking you were clever..

[–]reddit111987 40 points41 points ago

FACT: 90% of the final exam will consist of various anecdotes he has said.

[–]StarWars_92 8 points9 points ago

I actually have a professor that his policy is whatever happens in class is fair game for tests. And he told us one year someone ran into class wearing some costume and sure enough it was asked on a test.

[–]Young_Marble_Giant 7 points8 points ago

And now, everyday in your chosen career, that knowledge of the costume some dickhead wore to class comes in handy... right?

[–]Rebound 5 points6 points ago

that's kinda stupid

[–]Riddlr 3 points4 points ago

I think that's pretty funny, but not if it was part of the grade.

[–]thermocell 3 points4 points ago

Your professor sounds like a moron.

[–]guyNcognito 23 points24 points ago

That's some mighty fine nothing you're spending your parents' money on. Good job.

[–]Caneck 7 points8 points ago

The way I look at, you're paying to eventually get a degree and not for the lectures. If I can learn more efficiently by teaching myself than by going to lecture, then I'm not going to go. It's a waste of my time to sit in on a lecture with an awful professor (which most are at my school, as they are mainly here for the research and not to teach).

[–]djbriandamage 12 points13 points ago

tuition well spent

[–]whereswald514 44 points45 points ago

Just found out that my professor doesn't take attendance.

Or...

I just graduated high school yippee! Thanks for paying for my school so I don't have to get a job yet mom!

[–]Fonzie8819 25 points26 points ago

This sounds very bitter. I've known several people who have skipped classes and gotten an A and retain the knowledge.

[–]mtocrat 11 points12 points ago

There are several ways to learn that stuff, a book is way better then a bad prof and let's face it: you pay for the piece of paper you get afterwards and not for sitting in class.

[–]hypermark 2 points3 points ago

Did you skip Comp I classes and just read the book? If so, your assertion that "you pay for the piece of paper" is absolutely correct.

[–]Cynikal818 0 points1 point ago

I skip classes that I know won't help me grow in any way. I probably skip 1 or 2 classes a month maybe 3. I'm getting straight A's so far in all 5 classes (17units).

It's possible.

(I'm a die hard LAker fan...sometimes my night class gets in the way)

[–]baconbringer 10 points11 points ago

Everyone is hating on the op for not going but what's the big deal if the class is easy? I had a class last semester that I went to maybe 20% of the time, I got over 100% in it. I have a class this semester that I've been to three times and I currently have an A after 3 out of 5 exams. If it's easy and attendance isn't taken I'm not about to waste my time going when I could be working on my harder CS classes.

[–]Frank_Sandbeans[S] 1 point2 points ago

fist bump

[–]texasninja 7 points8 points ago

HEY, classes started months ago, how did you just now find out. This post is stupid! (karma-whore)

[–]lebenohnestaedte 1 point2 points ago

I suppose he could be somewhere with a later start date (I started two weeks ago). Or just not realized somehow.

Or he could be telling lies on the internet!

[–]blazingscience 3 points4 points ago

You really think someone would do that?

[–]TigerWylde 1 point2 points ago

pfft no one lies on the internet. that's a fact.

[–]hypermark 0 points1 point ago

No, they actually started at the end of August, but he just started attending. The professor just told him there's no attendance policy to get rid of the moron.

[–]Young_Marble_Giant 0 points1 point ago

"Classes started two months ago... Oh, am I late?" --Conway West

[–]informationmissing 5 points6 points ago

I just found out that you would fail my math class.

[–]KryptKat 2 points3 points ago

You're assuming your teacher doesn't notice that you aren't showing up. Trust me, they do, and they make fun of you in class.

[–]xPerplex 0 points1 point ago

Yes, i'm sure the teacher notices in his 300 person 101 class as a college freshman.

[–]WileEWeeble 4 points5 points ago

...You know you are paying (or rather your parents I guess) to be there. If you don't want an education, save your (or rather your parent's) money and get a job...they take attendance.

Christ, at the very least, just get an on-line degree instead of paying to attend a class you don't want to.

[–]ne0codex 2 points3 points ago

Have fun passing the class then.

[–]neotifa 0 points1 point ago

enjoy your f

[–]Mrvoodoochild1 0 points1 point ago

Pays 10s of thousands of dollars for a college education. Doesn't ever go to class. Stupid people will always be stupid.

[–]gliscameria 1 point2 points ago

Enjoy retail sales.

[–]SanchoDeLaRuse 3 points4 points ago

ITT: Students that don't care about learning so long as they get by.

[–]JayGatsby727 14 points15 points ago

Not going to lecture =/= not learning

[–]SanchoDeLaRuse 2 points3 points ago

getting by =/= not learning

[–]CaptainDave 5 points6 points ago

My best no-attendance policy in college was for my 20th Century Russian Literature course. No attendance necessary, and if you got an A+ on the midterm, you didn't have to take the final (the only other basis for your grade).

I stopped going to class after the first week, didn't read a damned thing until the weekend before the midterm. Spent three solid days reading six or seven rather dense novels, took the midterm, showed up in class until the grades came out, and didn't have to go back. I believe that I ended up going to a total of four classes.

I credit the cramming as it was all very fresh in my mind.

[–]informationmissing 6 points7 points ago

do you remember any of it now? what percent would you guess?

Was your goal to learn or was your goal to pass the class?

[–]CaptainDave 3 points4 points ago

Not a lick of it, though I recall especially liking Pasternak. I still have all the books, and I intend to go back and re-read them with an eye towards retention and deeper thought.

Honestly, my goal was to ace the midterm so I didn't have to sit another minute in what must have been the most boring class I've ever experienced. Barring that, my goal was to get a good final grade, as Russian was my undergrad major.

I didn't especially like the lit. classes; the history and the Slavic linguistics courses were where it was at in my opinion. The literature was too interesting to spoil with lectures and half-hearted discussions.

[–]informationmissing 8 points9 points ago

Then it worked for you. If your goal was learning it really didn't work for you.

I'm disheartened at how few people actually have a goal of learning, and how many just want a grade so they can graduate.

[–]howerpower 5 points6 points ago

lol yeah fuck that, 50% of the classes you have to take are a complete waste of your time.

[–]CaptainDave 2 points3 points ago

My goal was learning, just not in the lit. classes. Those were just requirements to me.

[–]dolphinrisky 2 points3 points ago

Funny, that was my usual reaction when I found out my professor did take attendance.

[–]amazoncon 0 points1 point ago

Now you'll never get promoted to assistant night manager.

[–]c-herms 3 points4 points ago

It's late October. It took you this long to figure that out?

[–]Binsky89 2 points3 points ago

It's almost November and you're just now figuring this out?

[–]RichDelivers 1 point2 points ago

A great teacher of mine once told me; "He who participates, wins." Turns out while at first sounding quite profound, this statement was in fact wholly inaccurate. The moral of the story is do whatever the fuck you want because sooner or later you're gonna get punched in the dick by a dick.

[–]zephyy 1 point2 points ago

bunch of bitter STEM majors itt

[–]BunRabbit 2 points3 points ago

As a teacher at university, it's so easy to spot which students earned their own money to pay for tuition and which students are still sponging off their parents.

[–]FAPmakesmeaSAP 1 point2 points ago

I don't get everyone bashes this post. It's possible to get good grades and skip class. Did the homework, paid attention attention during labs, studied for quizzes, and studied even harder for tests. To me lectures were pointless but I understand some people needed them.

[–]knighmare 0 points1 point ago

Why the hell would they take attnedence? you are paying to be there its not their problem if you want to flunk.

[–]Afrodgiak -1 points0 points ago

You are just now finding this out over half way through the semester?

[–]BunRabbit 1 point2 points ago

And yet you still will hound him for a re-sit, because you failed the final exam.

[–]LieutenantTickles 1 point2 points ago

It took you this long? It's almost November.

[–]Crole 0 points1 point ago

You were expecting attendance? Do you also ask to go to the bathroom during class?

[–]drfunkenstien -1 points0 points ago

as a highschool student, this sounds revolutionary!

[–]leavesontrees 0 points1 point ago

Hmm, I haven't seen that College Freshman meme lately...

[–]ILoveHate 0 points1 point ago

I find going to class after a few beers makes it WAY better.

[–]tchiseen 0 points1 point ago

In 4 years

"DAE employers always ask for experience, but how u get if no jawb? I has duhgree!"

[–]someguy73 0 points1 point ago

Have fun having to take the class again.

[–]NewGuy1414 0 points1 point ago

I can't understand what my Calculus professor says with her accent and I have bad eyesight which doesn't help me read her chicken scratch. I failed the first exam when I just tried to study the notes I took in class, since I wan't taking good notes and I didn't understand what was being said. Now I just skip the class and spend the two hours and more taking notes straight out of the textbook and study those instead.

[–]mhyquel 0 points1 point ago

You think that is awesome, I had a prof that didn't have deadlines.

[–]nrusby 0 points1 point ago

wait whose professor takes attendance in the first place?

[–]Suddenly_Something 0 points1 point ago

You just found out now? Halfway through the semester?

[–]lurker71 0 points1 point ago

you will realize soon enough that is a huge mistake

[–]Thunder_Bastard 0 points1 point ago

In college I had a required health class my first year. The professor handed out a schedule the first day showing the dates of all the tests and exactly what chapters they would cover.

I attended 4 classes in total and ended up with an A. Plus, I avoided 2 oral reports everyone else had to do that was attending all 3 days per week.... they were just counted as extra credit.

[–]JamminInJoesGarage 0 points1 point ago

Umm... yes welcome to college.

God I love freshmen.

[–]brianyi 0 points1 point ago

How do you find out this late in the semester? And I'm assuming you're a freshmen...

[–]Fishclips -1 points0 points ago

Dumbass, its always been like that. Showing up is the easiest and most vital part of the class that you (err, your parents) are paying for. FOOL

[–]RagingPigeon 0 points1 point ago

For everyone saying you're throwing your life away doing this...for some classes, yes. For some classes, (primarily at research institutes) the professors are utterly unqualified to teach, regardless of how brilliant they are, and when it gets the point where the professor has no real ability to offer you anything...might as well go with learning the material yourself and save yourself some time.

[–]theteabaron 0 points1 point ago

IDK the woman keeps one hand on the railing although not a death grip mind you while the guy does a moon walk...

[–]eternitygeekout 0 points1 point ago

You've had a prof that takes attendance?

[–]jonaheim88 0 points1 point ago

its college..im pretty sure if you are paying money to go there and miss class..its your own damn fault and not many professors actually give a shit.

[–]huskerfan4life520 1 point2 points ago

This gif certainly hasn't been overused. Glad you posted it!

[–]darB17 0 points1 point ago

I stopped having this attitude when I realized I was paying $20 per day of class.

[–]sonicoliver 0 points1 point ago

I used to lecture and never took attendance.

It's a place of adult education, classes are not compulsory. You are paying me to be there and teach weither you show up or not.

[–]marty_marshall 0 points1 point ago

So much hate ITT. OP, do what you want. You won't even remember having taken most of those classes in five years, let alone remember anything from them. Just make sure you make good grades because that's what lands you the job/admission into graduate school.

[–]alithia 0 points1 point ago

Don't understand why everyone has their knickers in a twist. This comes down to choice. I attended the classes I knew I'd need help in, and didn't attend the others. My lecturers were recorded and placed online (nicely synced with the slides and everything). Heck, most of my tutorials were also recorded and placed online. Some people are disciplined and can direct their own learning. Beats going to class and not paying any attention at all but kidding yourself that you don't have to do anything because you went to class.

[–]gmick 0 points1 point ago

You mean, you were treated like an adult and acted like a child?

[–]yoreatowel 0 points1 point ago

But that's the test.

[–]BagOCrisps 0 points1 point ago

It's your education... My reaction when you show up in office hours because you got a 70% on the exam (due to in-class discussion questions that should have been easy if you attended):

Seinfeld shrug

[–]EatMyLeetSoup 0 points1 point ago

HAAHA OMG THIS IS SO... wait... nvm.