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[–]reble02 38 points39 points ago

Too close to home.

edit: grammar

[–]b214n 13 points14 points ago

"too" close ma' fucka. get it right.

[–]Nicotography -2 points-1 points ago

fap fap fa...

[–]puppyotto 6 points7 points ago

I feel there is an implication that masturbation is something that is bad. Can someone explain to me why people are not into masturbation on getmotivated?

[–]jonivaio 5 points6 points ago

Sometimes, when you are addicted to porn/masturbation, it can take even 2 hours looking for the right scene or the right fetish and after you've done, after you have released your manly juices, your sexual energy, your bodily nutritions (zinc as being main one), then you have no energy nor motivation to do anything else. Your brain becomes fogged and the rest of the day is kind of ruined. Perhaps it sound a bit exaggerated, but I can tell you from experience that sometimes it can get this bad.

www.YourBrainOnPorn.com

/r/NoFap is HUGE self-improvement - if you don't know it yet.

[–]puppyotto 1 point2 points ago

Is it masturbation or seeking sex in general though. A lot of my friends spend a lot of time trying to hook up, and a huge amount of time and resources getting ready to go out, going out and talking to people from girls to boys and beyond. It seems like the same thing as masturbation but with a person, and it takes like way longer than 2 hours. So is it just porn or is it a investment in sexual time in general?

[–]jonivaio 2 points3 points ago

Take a look at OP's image once more. Then imagine someone siting at the pc with one hand on mouse and other in his lap. Then compare that person with someone who is living life - doing something with someone, going somewhere, creating something. In life there are numerous ways how you can find other person.

Seeking sex in general is what makes us men. We need that drive. If you masturbate you waste this drive, you lower your testosterone. Then all you want to do is sit and do nothing.

[–]puppyotto 0 points1 point ago

That is interesting, I can see why putting too much drive on one or the other is important. I guess I relate to masturbation a lot differently than other people because I don't really look at porn or use a computer to do it. To me masturbation and sex are very similar because I can get turned on by looking at myself so it isn't like this modern virtual act with a fantasy person, and I forget that masturbating isn't like that for a lot of people. Does anyone else do that?

Is the idea is to have sex more with people not masturbating to internet pornography. I am at once interested in and averse to pushing down desire, but is not masturbating a way for people to have fewer orgasm, but try to have them with other people?

I feel a lot of shame when I look at guys and think they are attractive, and I get really nervous when I hook up with them. That is a weird thing about me, does anyone else do that?

[–]Grafeno 1 point2 points ago

/r/NoFap is HUGE self-improvement - if you don't know it yet.

You really can't make such a sweeping generalization tbh.

[–]jonivaio 1 point2 points ago

I don't believe that. I think an average porn user, who masturbates at least once or twice a week, if stop will always experience some level of self-improvement.

[–]Grafeno -1 points0 points ago

Honestly I don't have much an idea of what an "average porn user" would be..

[–]skakruk 0 points1 point ago

Excuse me kind sir, do you realize the huge amount of horse shit you are spitting? Please take your shit nofap propaganda elsewhere, to the retards at /r/nofap.

Sometimes, when you are addicted to porn/masturbation, it can take even 2 hours looking for the right scene or the right fetish and after you've done, after you have released your manly juices, your sexual energy, your bodily nutritions (zinc as being main one), then you have no energy nor motivation to do anything else.

So, sex is a lot worse than masturbation, since it takes way more time, and it makes you realize the same juices?

[–]jonivaio 0 points1 point ago

Sexual energy. I'm not an expert, but I've read something about chi or ching, where it's like when you masturbate you release your sexual energy without receiving anything back, but with a partner you both exchange.

A lot of, as you say retards, have experienced this. They lose energy from masturbating, but not from sex.

I'm just saying. If you are not interested in nofap, that's fine, I couldn't care less. You can do whatever the fuck you want.

[–]forcrowsafeast 0 points1 point ago

Chi? BHWAHAHAHAHa!! Come back when you have actual evidence and things that actually exist to talk about and make a point with. Your like something straight out of r/shittyaskscience.

[–]skakruk 0 points1 point ago

when you masturbate you release your sexual energy without receiving anything back, but with a partner you both exchange.

What the fuck, do you seriously believe this crap? It's all about mentality. People are stupidly taught by society that fapping is not good, that's why they feel bad. Also, the people who feel bad do so because these peoplee are probably part of the big percentage of people who masturbate exactly because they don't get female attention.

I've masturbated since I was like 4 years old and I do it for self gratification, I don't feel any kind of guilt, in fact I feel awesome, and I love nights because it's the time when I masturbate.

[–]sweetly_flying 3 points4 points ago

Masturbation is really just shorthand for whatever you are doing to waste time. For some reason Reddit assumes that everyone here masturbates a lot.

[–]LeeENTfield 1 point2 points ago

how is masturbation a waste of time? It doesn't take long and it is a huge stress relive.. And it feels AWESOME!

[–]sweetly_flying 1 point2 points ago

Again stereotype of people doing nothing but masturbating. I think this one might have come from the existence of r/nofap.

[–]NewUSSR 1 point2 points ago

Masturbating = self-pleasure. You do random shit that has no applicable benefit except to make you happy for a short while and it's masturbation. For example, video games are masturbation. Just yesterday, my dad and I were masturbating to Mario Kart 64.

[–]0_- -5 points-4 points ago

Masturbation is horrible. It saps all of your vitality in exchange for pleasure.

The worse part about it is that people think it is necessary when really, if you stop looking at pornography, if you stop sexually fantasizing, if you have a good diet and are reading a lot of good books, then you can circumvent masturbation completely. And it will do unspeakably remarkable things for your total health.

More importantly, it will give you your individuality back. With a strengthened mind, you can explore life in a whole new way. Masturbation ruins the cerebral potency and produces waves of mediocre idiots in this society.

[–]Jackson3125 6 points7 points ago

Is there a scientific basis for "vitality sapping" or is this just talk from nofap?

Moderation in everything, including moderation.

[–]LethalDiversion 3 points4 points ago

Not relevant to the vitality sapping thing, but this article says it is necessary for prostate health.

[–]Redxzx 0 points1 point ago

Well I'll be damn, your article is much better than the biased community of nofap.

I was in nofap because I wanted moderation and I've felt I've achieved that. Well crap... I'm glad I've stumbled upon this. THANK YOU FOR SAVING ME =P.

I literally fell into that dark hole without thinking of looking into other articles to back up nofaps points.]

Edit - I guess I'm doing it again... moderation is key for everything. I think I'll do that _^

[–]0_- -2 points-1 points ago

It is known as the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_sexual_response_cycle#Resolution_phase

It is solved by avoiding the orgasm, which is really an electrical short circuit that people utilize for pleasure, but which is really quite harmful.

The sort of chemicals released from this intense short circuit are very similar to heroin, our most addictive drug known thus far. So people, doctors, scientists, etc will fight to the death to protect poison.

As for a peer reviewed scientific article, it is impossible to produce, but the reason has already been provided in this fairly inclusive short post.

[–]Jackson3125 3 points4 points ago

So you're saying the refractory period after an orgasm is harmful (harmful how?), yet you say there is zero scientific basis for such a claim?

I'm really not trying to come after you. I'm not. I just don't understand how you can make such a claim while simultaneously saying there is zero support for it? Who has told you that orgasms are harmful? Where have you read this? If there is no support, why do you believe it?

[–]0_- -2 points-1 points ago

The worldwide scientific community is pretty bad right now. It can't begin to fathom what "objective" really means. Money and science are mixed, ruining science completely. Scientific pursuits always have a terrible bias to attempt to prove hypothesis. Media storms get blown out of proportion, scarring the populous and drowning out real science.

I mean look at global warming. How much junk is out there, people can't even read things like this:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html

So are you getting the point here? We can't get science to spoon feed this to us so please rely on your own scientific enterprise and faculties and work with me here, develop your own objective perspective on this.

OK, so think about it. The penis is very hard, the person is full of energy, and that energy is building up, the sex is becoming more intense.

If you compared this to electricity, you would be stepping up the voltage and amperage...

And it builds and builds, then there is a break. This is like a short circuit.

And a short circuit is the path of least resistance. During vigorous sex, it is very hard to avoid this because so much energy is building up.

And the refractory period is just evidence that this has occured. The penis begins to retract, the energy has been completely lost (in the male), he just wants to drool and pass out in most cases.

He is completely sapped of energy.

And what does a short circuit do? Damage.

So erectile dysfunction is on the rise. After internet porn, younger and younger people are suffering from it. The /nofap group covers that a lot.

Mind you, I am not a /nofap group enthusiast. They are a bunch of fools over there.

I am making this claim so you hear* something interesting, because you are on reddit and simply because the vast amount of people have not even remotely fathomed this perspective. I am part of a very tiny sliver of people who suspect what I am talking about.

I'm living proof. I'm a single male, have been for a couple years now and no I haven't been masturbating, and don't feel the urge to.

It's a quick downward spiral if you begin checking girls out and stuff, then you start looking longer, and the temptation builds and builds.

The solution is to be a proper male, upright, well dressed, look women in the eye, don't get carried away during sex.

It goes a long way, it gives you your free will back. The possibilities are endless after that.

Nothing of value is lost, either. Only gains here. The orgasm is so temporary, seconds of time, that it can be sacrificed without concern. It was damaging anyways. You can still experience the sensations of sex, but you are having sex for love, not sensation. You are working on another level at that point.

[–]Jackson3125 3 points4 points ago

develop your own objective perspective on this.

I'm not sure you understand what objective means. Objectivity is achieved by removing yourself and your own bias. This is often accomplished using mechanisms such as blind and double blind studies. You, instead, are using anecdotal evidence and basing everything on 1) your experiences and 2) an analogy you created. What is objective about your analysis?

You can make all the comparisons to electricity you want but that doesn't make them true or accurate. Watch me, I'll do it:


The penis becomes hard and draws in energy from your surroundings. During orgasm, that energy is transferred from your penis into your body for storage, which causes your penis to retract as the energy drains from it. As a result, you gain energy from the masturbation.


The analogy I just made is hogwash, just like yours. It has no factual basis, just like yours. It has zero scientific backing, just like yours.

There are negative consequences from looking at porn to excess and masturbating to excess. I'm not doubting that. However, there's no scientific basis (or any other basis) to masturbating or ejaculating being an introduction of poison into your system. You're literally making this stuff up out of thin air. Sex does cause endorphins to release but so does everything that makes you happy, whether it be doing well on a test, exercising, or eating chocolate. Should we no longer exercise or do well on tests because such "poisonous" endorphins will be released?

[–]0_- -2 points-1 points ago

All of that is great, except that the entire body is based on an electrical system. That is why my comparison makes sense, as an electrician, and university student of psychology who has studied axions, synapses, etc etc.

Not sure what scientific backing you are looking for, what I just said about the electrical systems is true and well known, but if you want the complete thing spelt out for you then that's not real science. If you want a bunch of boyz in white coats with their arms crossed going "yeah, he's right bro!!" then that is absurd, that's not science at all, like I had said before but you are making me repeat myself.

[–]Jackson3125 2 points3 points ago

You are a bizzarre individual. I'm actually beginning to think you don't believe the ridiculousness you spout and are actually just trolling me. If you are trolling me, well played sir. If not, Jesus, dude. You need to step back and look at the stuff you write.

[–]0_- -2 points-1 points ago

Why would I want to be well accepted by the masses? Why would I want to agree with you and other people?

I want to think my own way. My brain is functioning just fine. Perhaps I have insights into this matter and am correct. If you don't have patience with it and just want to do off with me like I am crazy, go ahead. That would be exceptionally unfortunate for you to just do off like what with people who disagree with you.

It's sad because just recently there was a noble prize winner from Israel who was labeled a mad man and cast off his team for his theory on crystals, yet his research was proven correct in the end and he won the big prize. Any new innovators on the scientific scene first appear like mad men who are wasting their time.

[–]LethalDiversion 4 points5 points ago

Except that studies have shown it is necessary for males if you do not have an active sex life.

Masturbation has been shown to significantly reduce your chances of prostate cancer.

Relevant Article

[–]0_- -2 points-1 points ago

I have no doubt that the control group used for that study is terrible. There are so many lifestyle factors that are necessary to make sure that your sexuality is taken care of in other ways. If you are not going to masturbate (which one should not), then you are going to have to live a more active lifestyle, you might consider taking up painting, singing, utilizing instruments, writing. You are going to have a lot more "get up and go", so it is obvious that you can't just sit around all of the time.

I am sure that reckless study didn't consider or care for that. They were out to prove things, and had multitude of people who will get behind them to support masturbation because that's the sort of agenda they want to get behind.

But that's not real, objective science. Science has to take the time to concern itself with things like this.

I mean it's sad because what you said is being taught at a university level. I've taken the sexual behavior class where that line is taught. But of course it is unhealthy to sit around like a log, you cannot just sit on your libido without nasty things happening.

That being said, there is a positive way to deal with it that very few know about, and it is exactly what makes that study a complete fabrication of ignorance. If you want to still get behind it, go ahead - I know better.

[–]LethalDiversion 2 points3 points ago

Wow. Seriously. Take a step back. Ok, good. Now take a deep breath. Good. Now take a look at your post. Take a good, long look at it.

Do you realize you read just like the people that were screaming about how vaccination of children should be illegal because it causes autism?

I provided an article which asserts that regular relief of the prostate can prevent it from developing cancer. It then suggests that masturbation is the best route for this, because consistently obtaining sex outside of a monogamous marriage is difficult without catching an STI which would increase your chances of cancer.

You provided.. nothing, other than a diatribe that sounds like it was scripted for a /r/nofap zealot's pamphlet.

Please show me a solid paper which backs up your assertions without all the rhetoric and maybe you will be taken seriously. For now, you just sound like somebody that had a porn addiction and chose to replace that addiction with an addiction to forcing yourself to live an "active" lifestyle. There are plenty of us out there which are able to masturbate regularly and still do wonderful things like have relationships, have sex regularly, go kayaking, go on charity runs, paint, read, walk the dog, work 12 hour a day shifts, and so on and so forth.

[–]0_- -2 points-1 points ago

I think you misunderstand what science means friend. Science has nothing to do with dragging out old archived university papers. Science is experimenting objectively, exploring new frontiers. It is living, exploitative, not stagnant, digging back into what was already previously known like a grave digger.

Get out of the graves, there are no papers that support what I am talking about. If there were, they would be mocked and drowned out, because no one would like even the idea of it.

It's the same reasons we're always hearing about "the medical benefits of alcohol", the real negatives are unpopular to hear about, such as permanent brain changes in regular drinkers. So instead we talk about how a glass of wine a day is good for your heart, even though that's not true either.

I digress, I have to go through this process every time I talk to someone nowadays because people think science is merely archival work.

I have nothing to do with nofap, I think they are a bunch of fools actually, because they are all masturbating over there anyways, either mentally or with their hands. So they are liars is all.

Other than that I have nothing to say to you, you are deep in the dark heart of the enemy... you want to be like everyone else, happy and live out your life and die... well go ahead, but it's not very impressive as that is the path everyone takes. Try to think in a new way, become something different, really you have no idea. I have seen thousands of replies like yours, all supporting the same views. Everyone believes in the exact same things. Like I said, it is taught in university, and like pigs, you all eat it up. Pigs eat tires, other pigs, feces, no discetion. People aren't any better.

[–]LethalDiversion 2 points3 points ago

Hanlon's Razor. Got it.

[–]0_- 0 points1 point ago

Brevity is the soul of wit, eh?

Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player, That struts and frets his hour upon the stage, And then is heard no more. It is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing.

[–]Jackson3125 2 points3 points ago

There are TONS of articles on the negative effects of alcohol. You realize this, don't you?

I'm not sure you understand what science is, sir. Science is the scientific method. It's establishing a controlled environment, changing variables, systematically observing the results, and replicating it to ensure that the result consistently occurs.

[–]0_- -1 points0 points ago

There are tons of articles on the negative effects of porn. Go ahead and check them out, you'll find plenty at no fap.

On the masturbation issue, it's hard because everyone masturbates. The people who have stopped masturbating have done it wrong and have become pedophiles or inquisitors, but they were not appreciating the numerous religious texts on the matter. St. Francis, which was and is terribly popular among the religious, had this to say on the matter:

Our miserable and weak human flesh is like unto the hog which ever delighteth to lie down in the mud and to befoul itself therewith, deeming the mud its great delight. Our flesh is the devil's knight; because it wars against and resists all those things which are according to the will of God and for our salvation. A friar inquired of Friar Giles and said unto him: "Father, teach me in what manner we may keep ourselves from carnal sin". Whereto Friar Giles made answer: "My brother, he who would stir any great weight or any great rock and move it into another place should study to move it more by skill than by strength. And so we, in like manner, if we would conquer carnal sins and obtain the virtues of chastity, may better obtain them by humility and by good and wise spiritual regimen than by our presumptuous austerity and violence of penance. Every sin troubles and obscures holy and resplendent chastity; for chastity is like unto a bright mirror which is obscured and bedimmed, not only by the touch of filthy things, but even by the breath of man. It is impossible for man to attain unto any spiritual grace as long as he continues to be disposed to carnal concupiscence, and therefore, turn and turn thyself again as thou wilt, never shalt thou find any other means whereby to attain to spiritual grace save only by subduing every carnal sin. Therefore fight valiantly against thy weak and sensual flesh, thy proper enemy, which would ever thwart thee by day and by night. He who shall conquer our mortal enemy, the flesh, may be certain that he hath conquered and discomfited all his enemies, and that he will soon attain to spiritual grace, and to every good state of virtue and of perfection." Friar Giles was wont to say: "Among all the other virtues I would give the first place to the virtue of chastity, for most sweet chastity path in itself alone some perfection; whereas there is not any other virtue which can be perfect without chastity". A friar asked Friar Giles, saying: "Father, is not the virtue of charity greater and more excellent than that of chastity?" And Friar Giles said: "Tell me, brother, what thing in this world is there to be found more chaste than holy charity?" Oftentimes Friar Giles sang this song, to wit: O holy chastity, lo! how great is thy goodness! Verily thou art precious, and such and so sweet is thy fragrance, that he who savoureth thee not, knoweth not how rare it is. Therefore the foolish know not thy worth. A friar asked Friar Giles, saying: "Father, thou that so greatly commendest the virtue of chastity, I beseech thee declare unto me what is chastity"; whereto Friar Giles replied: "My brother, I tell thee that that which is correctly called chastity is diligent care and continual watching of the bodily and spiritual senses to preserve them pure and immaculate for God alone". Excerpted from a collection of legends about St. Francis (1181-1226)

So that is why the control group (the original topic of this conversation) would be poor, people who have a slightly higher chance of prostate cancer. Because these priests and other people who are forcing celibacy don't know what they are doing, they live stagnantly and end up hurting themselves.

You can't just sit on your libido, as I have said.

[–]down_vote_city__ 27 points28 points ago

Bitch, I love masturbating.

Masturbating all day

[–]Dreql 17 points18 points ago

Yep it does belong on here! Unfotunately someone beat you to the punch and is in the top ten on r/GetMotivated! It's always great to see it again though so thanks for resubmitting! Anything that will get someone motivated is great!

[–]agentmd 5 points6 points ago

It's not a resubmission. Compare the ending slides.

[–]Dreql 19 points20 points ago

Right no, I saw. Nearly everything was the same and except for the ending. One is a message about motivation and one is spiderman masturbating. Didn't think I would ever have to type that out haha

[–]CraigChrist 1 point2 points ago

In the journey of life, when people are faced with difficult decisions, there always exists the oft overlooked option of spiderman masturbating

[–]dexter2062 7 points8 points ago

also try posting on /r/nofap

[–]SmartSuka 2 points3 points ago

Its been on r/nofap before too.

[–]Iterr 1 point2 points ago

But I'm so tired!

[–]Jafit 9 points10 points ago

But I am le tired

Well zen have a nap, ZEN FIRE ZE MISSILES!

[–]LittleWall 0 points1 point ago

I'm not masterbating...i'm taking a shit. But touche none the less

[–]Vahnya 0 points1 point ago

It's already been posted as one of the top posts of this subreddit in the past. ;)

[–]psface -1 points0 points ago

Hey, I know the boy wearing the headphones!

[–]Flapjack777 -1 points0 points ago

Yea I'm sorry, masturbation is in the "endlessly alive" category for me. Being Spider-Man is just a plus.

[–]DirtyFrenchBastard -1 points0 points ago

This is not going to resolve our problem! I feel alive by masturbating and come all over the place!

[–]JimmyNic -1 points0 points ago

I thought I unsubbed from Nofap...dammit.

[–]TheFireLawd -1 points0 points ago

Well masturbating is free, sooo...

[–]bozzwtf -1 points0 points ago

dat grammar...

[–]warischoy -1 points0 points ago

Or as a reddit advert, you can experience it all on red dit!

[–]Grayphobia -1 points0 points ago

Imagine a world in which people are shallow or assholes, you don't have the creativity or skill to create, nor the money to enjoy the excitement or beauty already available and I'm sitting here because the world is overrated.

[–]aotar -1 points0 points ago

I just REALLY want that achievement.

[–]killerasp -1 points0 points ago

100% FACT.

[–]EbolaPie 1 point2 points ago

Yeah, but permadeath kind of sucks in sandbox games. Especially when the character creator consists of one "random character" button and doesn't allow multiple characters.

[–]eiffel6565 -1 points0 points ago

i second this

[–]Grandmaofhurt 1 point2 points ago

Ready for Demotivation people!!!?

AND IT ALL COSTS MONEY THAT YOUR ASS DOESN'T HAVE!

[–]electricmice 0 points1 point ago

fear is the mind killer.

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[–]LethalDiversion -1 points0 points ago