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Trails of pizza delivery riders in Manhattan. [964x568] (i.imgur.com)

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[–]SlightlyReddishDawn 22 points23 points ago

So the brightest areas are the pizza stores? Or do they have higher population density? I don't live in Manhattan, so I have no idea.

[–]cancub 16 points17 points ago

They're totally Domino's locations. I'd stake my life on it.

[–]omplatt 10 points11 points ago

They are. It's from an episode of America Revealed (PBS) where they were talking about the supply chain and operations of Domino's.

[–]akmckeever 24 points25 points ago

Thats disgusting that people in manhattan are ordering dominos, when you can walk down the block a get pizza a million times better.

[–]Fealiks 5 points6 points ago

It's because this was generated from a Dominos delivery guy.

[–]dghughes 1 point2 points ago

One guy?

[–]alphanovember 1 point2 points ago

If ever a video has been relevant... the part is midway through but the rest of it is worth watching.

[–]failingparapet -5 points-4 points ago

i live in uptown manhattan and would never order that crap from Domino's called "pizza". I have no interest in having to go to the bathroom 5 times a day for the next couple of days.

[–]Uhrzeitlich 2 points3 points ago

This is why people hate New Yorkers.

[–]PW_Herman 1 point2 points ago

This is why New Yorkers hate everyone else.

[–]hobbified 0 points1 point ago

Because Domino's shitty pizza gives them diarrhea? No, I think it does that to everyone.

[–]roflbbq 2 points3 points ago

If you think Domino's is bad, you've never tried Little Caesar's..

[–]hobbified 1 point2 points ago

True, as far as I know.

[–]sixbluntsdeep -1 points0 points ago

Little Caesar's is dope.

[–]santaklausnomi 1 point2 points ago

Nah man. We eat real pizza in nyc.

[–]trippynumbers -1 points0 points ago

That was my initial though, but I, as well, do not live in Manhattan.

[–]rnelsonee 17 points18 points ago

This is from America Revealed on PBS. It was based on a GPS-equipped delivery bike - the delivery guy picked up orders from Domino's.

[–]sprohi[S] 0 points1 point ago

Thanks, I wasn't quite sure where it was from. I just came across it when browsing imgur.

[–]Dajbman22 6 points7 points ago

We need more pizza eaters in Central Park.

[–]Dajbman22 2 points3 points ago

Also, do the delivery drivers just not go to Harlem, or was there just no data?

[–]ParticleSpinClass 4 points5 points ago

These were only a specific set of stores, likely dominoes.

[–]motvind 3 points4 points ago

So they never take a shortcut through the park?

[–]colevatican 1 point2 points ago

Why would are restaurant deliver to the other side of the park?

[–]deepfeeld -1 points0 points ago

This was boring the 1st time it was posted.

[–]BluepaiN 0 points1 point ago

Anybody who knows how to make a map like this?

[–]sreyemhtes 1 point2 points ago

The really astonishing thing about this map is that Dominos has such a vibrant foothold in NY. I mean WTF?

There are (much) better pizza places on virtually every 3rd corner in NY. I'm not talking about the rarified pizza wars, pitting Lomdardi's against Sal's against Frannys etc. I'm talking run of the mill work-a-day fucking pizza. Satisfying at $2.50 a slice, and a bargain at the few remaining $0.99 / slice places.

You can get whole pies or slices at almost every pizza place (Some upscale places do only whole pies). They ALL deliver. All within 15-20 minutes. You can generally always eat in as well, some places are nice and some are tiny or minimalist. The pizza is freshly made, and it's, well, Pizza, not a thick, chewy, tasteless circle of bread with toppings.

Unlike McDonalds, which offers a food (sic) experience that isn't actually duplicated in any way by other, non-chain, restaurants, Domino's is serving Pizza ffs. Do people actually crave the particular kind of pizza they offer over real pizza?

So who is ordering from Dominos? That's the question. Is it an internet thing, like delivery consolidator websites don't list mom and pop places? Or is it out of towners who are scared of real food?

Maybe it's like with macaroni and cheese: our kids wouldn't eat nice delicious home-made m&c -- they insisted on Kraft, or, later, after letting them starve for a while, Annie's. And honestly Annie's m&c is delicious. It's not really mac and cheese -- but it's delicious. Maybe Domino's is like that?

[–]Uhrzeitlich 2 points3 points ago

tl;dr

But I think you should know that this map ONLY maps Dominos.

[–]sreyemhtes 0 points1 point ago

Yes I get that. I just can't believe that so MANY people order dominos in NY.

tl; dr -> Stop ordering dominos and try your corner pizza place

[–]righty 0 points1 point ago

I think is point is that no one should be eating Domino's in NYC.

[–]Deric -1 points0 points ago

not everyone likes your hipster shit. Some people do enjoy chain food.

[–]hmchl 1 point2 points ago

Ok, better quality and more convenient = hipster. Got it.

[–]dumboy 2 points3 points ago

Every time I read a wall of text like this about how amazing and magical Manhattan pizza is I can't help but think the speaker hasn't ever been anywhere else that wasn't a complete wasteland.

I'm sorry, but the experience of good cheap pizza isn't exactly so rare that you have to subject us to a half-page off topic rant about how much dominios sucks. Everyone knows. People eat it anyway for the exact same reasons they eat it in New York, too.

[–]sreyemhtes 0 points1 point ago

OK

  1. yes, I am too verbose. Sorry.

  2. I've been more or less everywhere in the US and lots of other places too. I at a LOT of pizza. I am in NO WAY saying there is no other pizza but NY pizza. I have had great or good pizza in SF, LA, Chicago, Boston, NO, Seattle, Portland, DC, Baltifuckingmore, and suburbs everywhere. It's not anywhere near as pervasive as it is here but it exists.

2.5 And I'm not talking about Manhattan pizza, I'm talking about NYC pizza, all 5 boros and hell, even the suburbs. It's everywhere. It's not magic, it's just much much better than Dominos.

but 3. So why? That's what I am asking. Why. Why Dominos? What about it is good enough to cause to you eat it in an environment where you can get better stuff more easily.

tl dr: There ya go -- another wall O text. Shit.

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[–]Royal28 0 points1 point ago

To 3. - Comfort through familiarity. The majority of pizza eaters in the US eat at chains because they are familiar with the pizza (i.e. 99% of the time the taste and quality is the same). They are, in no particular order, 1. not willing to take the chance on a local pizza place because they may not like the taste or quality, 2. willing to sacrifice a possibly better pizza for the options you have at a chain (specific desserts or dishes, etc.) 3. just simply more fond of chain pizza than local pizza.

[–]dghughes 0 points1 point ago

My theory is shift workers, any busy person such as business or parents, hours of operation of the pizza place, consistency, cost.

You're drained of energy can't or don't feel like cooking so you get fast food because you know what to expect.

I make my own pizza and have no idea what non-chain NY pizza is like but I'm guessing if it's close to mine I'd like it.

But people are funny and eat anything people here are thinking all people have the same taste or any taste I mean that literally my dad can't seem to taste anything so eats anything even mouldy rolls until we yell and say stop!

Everyone has different tastes and may prefer chain pizza over home made or pizzeria pizza.

Then again I recall reading on /r/pizza about a couple of guys who worked at small independent NY pizza shops and their job was to mix the sauce in a bucket, by hand, actually by arm :{ random place I hope.

[–]alphanovember 1 point2 points ago

Do people actually crave the particular kind of pizza they offer over real pizza?

Uh, yes? Are you really bewildered at the thought that some people actually like it?

[–]sreyemhtes -2 points-1 points ago

I guess I am. Maybe it's like Vegemite, a childhood acquired taste. I didn't grow up on Dominos so maybe I didn't develop the acquired taste. Is that what it is for you? You like it? Do you like it in addition to real pizza? Or instead of? That's what I am curious about.

[–]alphanovember 0 points1 point ago

I like both, but prefer Dominos. I didn't grow up on it, I just find it tastier.

[–]sreyemhtes 0 points1 point ago

What do you usually get in terms of toppings?

[–]alphanovember 0 points1 point ago

Sausage, pepperoni, or just plain. But it's not just the toppings I like, it's something they add to it and the cheese they use. A sort of vaguely spicy addition that I can never find in other pizzas. Might be oregano or something but Domonos has always had a distinct taste to it.

[–]PW_Herman 0 points1 point ago

I have a friend that has an apartment that's comically huge. Lives just off Columbus circle, 57th floor. I went to a party at his place, I think it was the Superbowl, and he had like 10 Papa John's pizzas. His girlfriend said he just likes to order online. Which is ridiculous, because to call a pizza place and say "10 large pies" takes under 30 seconds. And, it was pretty bad "pizza". Changed my whole outlook of him after that night.

[–]sreyemhtes 1 point2 points ago

I thnk this must be the thing. After I wrote my much maligned wall of text I started looking on the web and trying to order pizza via pure text / webpage methods as opposed to phone. There are some ways to get real pizza (or anything really) -- eg seamless, grubhub etc. but it's much more cumbersome than the direct websites run by Dominos / Papa Johns etc.

Which is sort of fascinating: apparently I am old. I have a set of behaviors (fridge magnet with pizzeria number etc), but am blind to how strongly other ingrained behaviors (all web all the time) streamline peoples habits.

So chain pizza has been able to make inroads in NY (AND probably in other cities with pervasive great pizza) just by virtue of a better interface. "Worse" product wins by virtue of interface, then becomes the acquired taste.

What's needed, actually, is a streamlined pizza delivery website that treats all local pizzerias as a single unit, allows you to just get a pie or 3 from "wherever" as quickly as with Dominos (w all kinds of nice preferences remembered, "social" or "rating" features like "never give me a pie from that last place again" etc.)

[–]PW_Herman 0 points1 point ago

I had this whole reply about voting with your dollars and choosing the little guy then I hit the delete key and my browser went back and erased everything, so I'm just going to say this: there's a restaurant in my neighborhood that has online ordering on their website. It's a little clumsy but it works and it lets them compete with seamless and grubhub. If more places did this they would be able to directly compete with all the other online ordering systems.

Here's the link

[–]hobbified 0 points1 point ago

I guess you're right, but I still don't get it. I'm a young guy, I hate to use the phone, and will hardly ever make a call for anything if I can do it online instead. I'm still going to call up the pizza place down the road and order a pie, rather than eat an alleged-pizza from Domino's or Pizza Hut just because it's available online. Ordering a pizza by phone is fast, easy, and governed by ritual.

And thank god that I live again in a part of the country where there is such a thing as a "pizza place"; there are large parts of the country where the only places selling pizza are the chain shops, and proper Italian restaurants (which, even if they have a pizza you like, won't give you a slice to go.) The real thing is a place with a counter, an oven, and a stack of pizza boxes a mile high, selling pizza by the slice, hot subs, cold subs, stromboli and/or calzones, and if you're lucky, at least one of zeppole and beer.

[–]perrylock -5 points-4 points ago

How did they isolate the delivery riders' lights from the rest of the traffic? Do they have very identifiable characteristic lights?

[–]farewellblues 20 points21 points ago

It's the GPS locations mapped, not the actual lights from the vehicle.

[–]perrylock 1 point2 points ago

Thanks. How did this data become publicly available?

[–]farewellblues 5 points6 points ago

Haven't a clue. Given that there only seem to be nine points of origin spaced pretty evenly around the city, I'm guessing it was created in collaboration with only one pizza delivery chain.

There was a documentary on the BBC a while back tracking the London black cabs in a similar fashion. http://www.bbc.co.uk/britainfromabove/stories/visualisations/taxis.shtml

[–]thefinn93 0 points1 point ago

Indeed. See above

[–]rnelsonee 2 points3 points ago

Journalists attached a GPS device to one guys' bike.

[–]motvind 4 points5 points ago

hahahahahahaaaaaaa omg this made me laugh more then ever before.

[–]perrylock -3 points-2 points ago

Blåsa mig

[–]dghughes 1 point2 points ago

Sparklers.

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