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I will never understand fashion. (imgur.com)

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[–]asportking 574 points575 points ago

Moisturize me

[–]JUST_LOGGED_IN 79 points80 points ago

I was afraid to open this image. I was justified in my fear. This is horrifying.

[–]mgrier123 97 points98 points ago

In case you don't know, this is Lady Cassandra who appears in both season 1 and 2 of Doctor Who

[–]goal2004 81 points82 points ago

Back from the Eccleston days. He was my favorite Doctor :)

[–]AlbrechtVonRoon 29 points30 points ago

Agreed.

[–]McCorkill 15 points16 points ago

I feel like every day I have to argue this with someone. You and Goal2004 just made my day. http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ldypmunKXf1qaepp4o1_400.gif

[–]AlbrechtVonRoon 3 points4 points ago

I wonder if he would have remained as good if he remained for at least one more series. At least he left on a high.

[–]McCorkill 7 points8 points ago

As a pessimist on the internet I am obligated to say no. It's the Firefly syndrome. He wasn't around long enough to fuck up.

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        [–]SnapeWho 10 points11 points ago

        Tom Baker.

        [–]jerzmacow 1 point2 points ago

        Was that the guy that played captain Jack Barrowman? I loved him.

        [–]MrSaturn 3 points4 points ago

        Heresy

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              [–]LascielCoin 13 points14 points ago

              Just finished watching that episode for the very first time 20 minutes ago :)

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                [–]mistidoi 1655 points1656 points ago

                That is literally a woman in a binder.

                [–]skillgannon5 524 points525 points ago

                "Fashion is a form of ugliness so abhorrent that we must change it every six months" Oscar Wilde.

                Edit http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/5.html The exact words eluded me. But you got the gist.

                [–]treycook 339 points340 points ago

                To be fair these types of fashion shows are more art than fashion. So they're just as silly as all those splatter paintings people are shelling out hundreds of thousands for.

                Edit: Word choice.

                [–]Pteryx 258 points259 points ago

                http://i.imgur.com/fbbrl.jpg

                [–][deleted] 200 points201 points ago

                I'm actually proud that I'm one of the very few humans walking this earth that understands the intensity of the art that you've just posted.

                The only painting that beats the one you posted is this:

                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Marevich,_Suprematist_Composition-_White_on_White_1917.jpg

                Almost a 100 years old, and still the best of its kind by a mile. But that's a Marevich, so you can't expect anything less...

                EDIT: guys, I don't know shit about art, I was just acting

                [–]wolfenkraft 38 points39 points ago

                Enlighten us.

                [–][deleted] 131 points132 points ago

                Don't take me seriously, I was just acting.

                I don't know shit about art.

                I googled "white painting".

                [–]treycook 125 points126 points ago

                They say trolling is an art.

                [–]larcenousTactician 56 points57 points ago

                Don't you mean a art?

                [–]cal679 40 points41 points ago

                You just got got, homie.

                [–]LeiaShadow 9 points10 points ago

                I'm sure he means exactly what he said, for exactly the reason you posted.

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                    [–]anEnglishman 8 points9 points ago

                    I got trolled, jimmies almost ruslted, well played.

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                            [–]Egsession 13 points14 points ago

                            The person is the canvas!

                            [–]igor_mortis 9 points10 points ago

                            many people are not aware of this. "omg who the fuck wears that?"

                            many people will also put on their Colombo coat and tell you how they've figured out wwf wrestling is a choreographed spectacle. "it's fake, man!"

                            [–]guitarpsycho182 72 points73 points ago

                            It's okay, you don't have to be fair.

                            [–]eus777 58 points59 points ago

                            Wow, I think I heard Jackson Pollock roll over in his grave.

                            [–]otherwiseyep 3 points4 points ago

                            Better men than Jackson Pollock have rolled in graves before.

                            [–]not_a_novel_account 56 points57 points ago

                            Pollock is the longest running troll in the fine art community

                            EDIT: Note to self, call Pollock a troll in /r/Funny = upvotes

                            Say you hate Pollock in /r/WTF = downvotes (http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/yabam/this_is_an_actual_on_going_art_performance_on/c5tuqto)

                            Ah Reddit, you so silly

                            [–]fiz1point5 22 points23 points ago

                            Nah, I'd give that award to Marcel Duchamp.

                            [–]taco_tuesdays 8 points9 points ago

                            Yeah, I'll give you that one

                            [–]I_just_post_stuff 3 points4 points ago

                            I wonder if urinating in a gold urinal would actually be cheaper and atract much less media coverage than doing it in this one.

                            [–]AlasPoorCitizen 3 points4 points ago

                            The thing with this though is that it really did convey a message. Modernism, back in the early-1900s, made people question what art actually was. This was at the same time that poetry was breaking out of the confines of verse and rhyme and into more abstract free-verse. This man literally put a toilet in a museum and watched critics ooh and aahh over it's finery.

                            The message was, and still is, who defines what art is? Is it just a collection of overused images that look nice but convey nothing deeper? That would be the equivalent of people covering Beatles songs for the last 50 years.

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                                  [–]ggg730 9 points10 points ago

                                  Well throw some paint on him and point him at a canvas. We will make millions!

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                                    [–]SalishSailor 21 points22 points ago

                                    There's a game that wealthy people play, with respect to art. It's a game of being able to show that you have enough money that you can buy things that are intrinsically worthless, yet priced at extremely high prices.

                                    The objects get wrapped up in all kinds of meaningless critique, but ultimately the game is just one of conspicuous consumption of expensive worthless objects.

                                    Of course, there's a distinction to be made between this kind of stuff and extremely valuable cultural / artistic artifacts that are beautiful, but rare. I really only understand photography, so I'll have to use an example from there, but a big original Ansel Adams print is beautiful and also something that will never be produced again, so I can see why it would command a high price. Same could be said for a lot of other art produced by masters and innovators.

                                    [–]ByJiminy 6 points7 points ago

                                    there's a distinction to be made between this kind of stuff and extremely valuable cultural / artistic artifacts that are beautiful, but rare.

                                    But who makes this distinction, and is there only one line to be drawn between art and non-art?

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                                      [–]ribena_wrath 7 points8 points ago

                                      Exactly. This is something no one seems to understand. These ate like art galleries. They push the boundaries of design, textiles ect. And then it filters down to the public. Exactly how concept cars work. And arty photography gets filtered down to high street studios that take pics of babies. And Mozart gets turned into the top 40.

                                      [–]fundie_pity 6 points7 points ago

                                      99% of the art world is indeed a pointless racket, far removed from genuine expression

                                      [–]gamelizard 9 points10 points ago

                                      far removed? i wouldn't go that far but 99% is no were near as good as that 1% so by comparison that 99% looks like shit. but to call it non genuine expression is ridiculous. its just not as good as others.

                                      [–]jsnoogs 1 point2 points ago

                                      Hey, watch out. You may offend some modern art critics out there.

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                                        [–]Baluga_Bear 41 points42 points ago

                                        They saved this woman from Minecraft O.o

                                        [–]ayerguy 2 points3 points ago

                                        Reddit loves to make shit up. --Abraham Lincoln

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                                          [–]mambypambyland 50 points51 points ago

                                          I'm not understanding this forced meme. Romney said he had "binders full of women." Is that some kind of sexual innuendo that he didn't understand?

                                          [–]Yetineer 56 points57 points ago

                                          Not a sexual innuendo. The left (in which I am a part of) has chosen to use it as a catch phrase to show how Romney is out of touch with women in the work place. Just one of those things folks take off and run with.

                                          [–]ShufflesStark 56 points57 points ago

                                          tl/dr I'm not a fan of or voting for Mitt Romney, but people getting upset/in arms/etc about this comment is stupid, silly political misdirection

                                          The funny thing about it was, that he started then talking about how he made his work environment suit things that women care about like flexible and stable hours so women can be home to make dinner and spend time with their families.

                                          People think that was sexist too, and a lot of people were up in arms about it but this is counterintuitive to actual polling. Polls consistently show that women want to be home early so they can do things like make dinner for their family. Polling also consistently shows that men would prefer the same, especially in dual income scenarios.

                                          Some other took further issue by stating that when he said Mass had the most diverse (male:female ratio wise) cabinet that this was affirmative action. Which is fine, affirmative action is what they're asking for isn't it? Polling effectively states that your average woman want better jobs with better pay without having to work overtime and on their schedule. Feminists really need to not get upset when someone calls it what it is.

                                          But yeah, binders full of women was funny. It's a great way to distract form the several sentences after that actually resonated with women effectively well enough.

                                          [–]Doshibu 31 points32 points ago

                                          The biggest problem with the "binders full of women" comment was that he lied yet again. He did not seek out qualified women to fill positions.

                                          It is also sexist to say that women need more time off so they can go cook and take care of kids. Men also fill that role, and some men (and women) are single parents. It's sexist because he's only applying the rules to one sex.

                                          [–]GotsToHaveACode 90 points91 points ago

                                          I'm a working woman and I actually found his response to be kind of insulting.

                                          Sure, women (and men) want to work reasonable hours. That is not a "women's issue." In fact, that response trivializes what women would actually find helpful to address workplace inequality. We need actual legislation that ensures we will be compensated fairly for our work. We need legislation that allows us greater control over our health and economic choices. Concrete policy. You just said it yourself, both men and women want to be able to work reasonable hours. Framing it as a "woman thing" because women need to go home and cook dinner is insulting.

                                          Furthermore, people are latching onto his comment about binders because it was a lie that illustrated how out of touch he is with real working women and the issues that impact their lives. Romney wasn't so dismayed by the lack of female representation in his cabinet that he sought "binders full of women" to staff more--that's a lie. Women's groups independently came to him with potential female candidates.

                                          It's insulting that when asked what he'd do to address gender equality, that he embellished a story about desperately wanting to help women, when in fact that isn't what happened at all. Furthermore, it's insulting that Romney thinks that his personal hiring practices are an effective response to what he'd do as president to address widespread workplace inequality. It's great that he had women in his cabinet, but that fact does nothing to speak to how he'd address widespread workplace inequalities that women face, which is why it made him look so out of touch with actual working women.

                                          Not to mention, it was just a funny thing to say.

                                          [–]EarlofSammich 15 points16 points ago

                                          Do you think Obama's anecdotal answers regarding his mother and grandmother were really answering the question either? I know he mentioned the Ledbetter Act, but my point is this: everyone uses these little stories meant to evoke sympathy, relatability, etc. so you can't selectively look down on politicians for that.

                                          [–]GotsToHaveACode 15 points16 points ago

                                          I don't think Obama answered that question well either. However, when asked about workplace inequality Obama DID point to actual policy that has an actual impact on the lives on working women. He also made the point that allowing a woman's employer to make her birth control choices for her is an economic issue that women face in the workplace. Sure all candidates use personal stories to connect with voters, but in this instance, Obama went further than just anecdotally talking about his past with women to respond to the question. Romney did not.

                                          Romney told the anecdote about staffing women with the binders (which was a lie) and talked about how women needed to be home early to make dinner. In the past he has refused to answer whether he would have signed the Ledbetter Act at all if he were president.

                                          [–]CBruce 11 points12 points ago

                                          FYI, my wife very much functions in very traditional gender role. She stays at home, she takes care of the kids she cooks and cleans. For many years, she felt unhappy about this, but one day realized that the reason she was unhappy wasn't because of what she was or wasn't doing. When we sat down to talk about it, she realized she appreciated being able to not work and do those things for now. She realized that what she was unhappy about was caused by this.modern feminist notion that this type of life was beneath a woman. That women should be.out in the workforce competing directly with men. She came to accept that real freedom and equality is about being able to make the choice for herself, or in our casen,--since we're married with children-- we make our choices together.

                                          Now that the kids are getting older and starting school, she's studying to get certified as a personal trainer. She's in her mid-thirties and this will be her first career. These were her choices and she's kind of pissed of that some of the more agressive women's liberty ideals made her feel guilty in the first place.

                                          [–]GotsToHaveACode 9 points10 points ago

                                          It's so unfair that anyone would make your wife feel guilty for her choices. I'm glad she's embarking on a career, if that's what she wants. She's lucky to have a partner who supports her in her choices, whether she wants to stay with her family or work outside the home.

                                          Personal trainers make a lot of money, too!

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                                            [–]edwardcullen1997 6 points7 points ago

                                            places you in a trapper keeper

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                                              [–]MonkyThrowPoop 15 points16 points ago

                                              That's because not only did he not answer the question, which was about equal pay for women, the only sentence that he said that was actually about women's rights and could be actually true, the one about him trying to cut hours so women can get home to cook dinner, was still offensive. He doesn't actually give a shit about women's rights and the "binder full of women" quote just perfectly sums it up.
                                              First off, he never asked for this "binder full of women", it was presented to him by an independent group called MassGAP. Also, the women that he did appoint to his cabinet were in areas that he either didn't care about or was actively trying to shut down. Not to mention that the number of women in senior positions actually went down when he was governor. Also, later in his answer he says that his economic plan will help women because there will be so many jobs that businesses will have to hire women. As if women are some second string backup plan that we only utilize when all the men have jobs. Still didn't answer the woman's question, which we know means he doesn't support equal pay for women but doesn't want to say it because he'll lose soccer mom votes. Ughh, What a fucking pathetic excuse for a human he is.

                                              [–]NightmareTaco 9 points10 points ago

                                              His answer seemed to stereotype women by saying they just wanted to be dinner-making child-rearing housewives instead of work longer hours. Polls or not, it's a stereotype, and one that feminists have been trying to get away from since forever.

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                                                  [–]richardjohn 28 points29 points ago

                                                  It reduces women to objects that are stored in binders.

                                                  [–]imredditting 156 points157 points ago

                                                  I think this idea is a little bit forced. Yes it was poorly worded but I think there are a lot of better things to reserve this card for.

                                                  I do not support him or his views and I do believe his views in general are not good towards women, but this particular issue I think is very silly to get stuck on.

                                                  [–]BigBadMrBitches 47 points48 points ago

                                                  Yea, I mean I'm not a Romney fan, but I knew he meant binders with women's information in them.

                                                  [–]ByJiminy 11 points12 points ago

                                                  This is pretty much exactly what happened when Palin got up-in-arms over Letterman's comment about her daughter. She willfully misinterpreted it so that she could convert bullshit into fuel for outrage. Unfortunately, bullshit is a renewable resource.

                                                  [–]Yurrretarded 5 points6 points ago

                                                  Except Romney lied about the binders, he didn't ask for them and he didn't hire anyone in them

                                                  [–]MeloJelo 7 points8 points ago

                                                  Also, the question comes up--if all these women were already out there, why wasn't he or his staff able to find them without a women's rights group spelling it out for them pre-compiled binder?

                                                  [–]Yurrretarded 1 point2 points ago

                                                  And as a Mass resident I knew that he didn't ask for those binders, they were given to him and he didn't actually hire any women because of it.

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                                                    [–]Papasmurf143 19 points20 points ago

                                                    My mother was watching MSNBC last night and the amount of time they spent on it was simply appalling. Talk about actual issues why don't you.

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                                                      [–]nairebis 51 points52 points ago

                                                      I'm no big Romney fan, but this is one of the most ridiculous things Democrats have ever found to criticize a Republican about.

                                                      Do some people really not know what a paper binder is?

                                                      [–]pensivewombat 37 points38 points ago

                                                      It's just hilariously awkward imagery. Also, it's not that people don't understand that he meant he requested a binder of information on women, it's that it is insulting to think that you solve systemic issues by saying that you hired/appointed some women. It's the political equivalent of "I'm not racist, some of my best friends are black!"

                                                      [–]nairebis 14 points15 points ago

                                                      It's "hilariously awkward" only if you seethe with irrational hatred toward Republicans. I'm sorry, but there is NO WAY a reasonable person hears that phrase and doesn't just interpret it in the way it was meant. You have to deliberately choose to misinterpret it.

                                                      Anyone who jumps on this phrasing is saying more about themselves than about Romney.

                                                      As for solving systemic issues, did you not read the whole context? Romney said he wasn't getting enough qualified women candidates. He wanted more diversity. So he went out and solved the problem. That, to me, is a good thing. But hey, maybe I'm crazy.

                                                      [–]fswmacguy 15 points16 points ago

                                                      I'm sorry, but there is NO WAY a reasonable person hears that phrase and doesn't just interpret it in the way it was meant.

                                                      You mean like Obama's "act of terror" speech in the Rose Garden?

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                                                        [–]terraform_mars 7 points8 points ago

                                                        I don't know.. having black friends kinda does point to not being racist, doesn't it?

                                                        [–]Flamburghur 5 points6 points ago

                                                        No. Simply liking an individual doesn't mean you don't hold racist beliefs. Racism also doesn't necessarily mean pure hatred, but a set of beliefs or stereotypes about a certain group.

                                                        For example I have a latina friend. She hates people joking about "latin heat" etc because people expect her to be some kind of seductress when she's not. Even some of her friends (not latina/o) joke about it, and I used to too before she asked me to stop. Those stereotypes I joked about were racist against latino/a people, even though she is one of my best friends and I didn't mean any harm. Look up "benevolent sexism" too.

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                                                              [–]MepMepperson 17 points18 points ago

                                                              This is what I have a problem with... he mentioned that he had binders full of women... this is clearly talking about reference material... it's such a silly thing to harp on.

                                                              I plan on voting for Romney, and I could find a dozen things he said that would make better fodder than this. /shrug

                                                              [–]snugglecakes 13 points14 points ago

                                                              Probably the best analogy I've seen is how people would react if he said a binder full of blacks or Latinos.

                                                              It was of course referring to a book of references but you can see how it seemed to be a poor choice of words.

                                                              [–]Karnas 2 points3 points ago

                                                              Hear, hear. I don't always see a Romney supporter in the positive upvote category, but when I do...

                                                              This has been the only one. I salute you.

                                                              [–]aubinfan17 10 points11 points ago

                                                              It's exactly as stupid as the GOP harping on Obama's poorly worded comment about infrastructure being important to business.

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                                                                [–]thechilipepper0 5 points6 points ago

                                                                Commodities to fake equal opportunity

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                                                                      [–]PricelessLie 178 points179 points ago

                                                                      Does this dress make my balls look big?

                                                                      [–]Deathalicious 17 points18 points ago

                                                                      To be fair, we have no way of knowing whether actually that's just a form fitting dress and that is what the model is shaped like.

                                                                      [–]ConnorSuttree 83 points84 points ago

                                                                      OK, so what elements are we supposed to extrapolate on from that fuckin' thing?

                                                                      Enormous cancerous ovaries are in?

                                                                      Kimonos and tutus?

                                                                      [–]emohipster 46 points47 points ago

                                                                      Short dresses, no cleavage, long sleeves, heavy accent on hips. Oriental patterns. Two different fabrics. Frilly details.

                                                                      [–]SirNoName 68 points69 points ago

                                                                      im a guy, and a guy who usually just wears a t shirt and a pair of shorts, but I'll give it a go.
                                                                      I'm guessing designers are looking to show off hips, shorter dresses, frills of bright colors, and wide shoulders.

                                                                      God I feel like I lost man points just for that...

                                                                      [–]ExplainsYourJoke 59 points60 points ago

                                                                      No, it's showing off that they can pay a model enough that she'll willingly dress as a giant penis.

                                                                      [–]MNorthey71 4 points5 points ago

                                                                      Bingo

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                                                                        [–]Napron 2 points3 points ago

                                                                        But in exchange you got some karma points.

                                                                        [–]SirNoName 3 points4 points ago

                                                                        Worth it

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                                                                          [–]Cforq 7 points8 points ago

                                                                          Remember that it isn't only color and themes - it is also experimenting in materials and construction.

                                                                          Think of high fashion like Formula 1 race cars - they are not meant for the average consumer but the innovations and technologies push the industry forward and a lot eventually ends up in standard road vehicles.

                                                                          [–]Faaaabulous 3 points4 points ago

                                                                          I don't see much innovation in my t-shirt, though...

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                                                                            [–]GreedDisaster 5 points6 points ago

                                                                            A very vivid depiction of the woman as the ultimate phallus-symbol.

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                                                                              [–]Marbug 5 points6 points ago

                                                                              she's looking like a penis, with a little bit of imaginations.

                                                                              Of course ... most of those designers are gay.

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                                                                                [–]KingFissure 98 points99 points ago

                                                                                Remind anyone else of David Byrne's 'Big Suit'?

                                                                                [–]bcarle 5 points6 points ago

                                                                                I thought that was just because I listened to stop making sense this morning.

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                                                                                  [–]goppeldanger 115 points116 points ago

                                                                                  It's hip to be square.

                                                                                  [–]jsnoogs 57 points58 points ago

                                                                                  TRY GETTING A RESERVATION AT DORSIA NOW, YOU STUPID FUCKING BASTARD!

                                                                                  [–]PoorMinorities 18 points19 points ago

                                                                                  http://i.imgur.com/xHVUF.gif

                                                                                  [–]ThreeUmbrellas 18 points19 points ago

                                                                                  I think their undisputed masterpiece is "Hip to be Square", a song so catchy, most people probably don't listen to the lyrics. But they should, because it's not just about the pleasures of conformity, and the importance of trends, it's also a personal statement about the band itself.

                                                                                  [–]WIND0WS98 7 points8 points ago

                                                                                  Hey, Paul!

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                                                                                    [–]extrabox 300 points301 points ago

                                                                                    Catwalk fashion and high street fashion are two different beasts. Catwalk is high concept gear to get a feel for patterns and styles, while high street fashion is the gear you can find in stores, which is derived from the styles and patterns exhibited on the catwalk. But yeah, they be crazy.

                                                                                    [–]rufio_rufio_roofeeO 139 points140 points ago

                                                                                    It's the same in medicine. For example, hospital surgery is analogous to high street fashion- it's the more useful, practical end of the spectrum.

                                                                                    Experimental medicine, or avant garde surgery, which occurs in my basement, showcases the surgeon's creativity and provides a concept for future directions in medicine.

                                                                                    [–]elliptical_illusion 29 points30 points ago

                                                                                    Frankenstein's monster was sooooo avart garde...

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                                                                                      [–]bcarle 83 points84 points ago

                                                                                      I have zero interest in fashion, but as someone who's into avant garde music, your defense of experimental art is heartening.

                                                                                      [–]pakattak 68 points69 points ago

                                                                                      Yeap. People don't realize that when you immerse yourself in an artform or culture, just sticking with what's practical or marketable is frustratingly maddening! I get really pissed off when people talk shit about experimental music, video games or films. I'm a graphic designer, and if what I create is limited to the work I do in my 9 to 5 (very conservative, boring work), I'd go insane. I need to stretch my legs dammit.

                                                                                      [–]----iMartijn---- 5 points6 points ago

                                                                                      Indeed.

                                                                                      People tend to forget that mainstream rock music is watered down from bands like nirvana, which was a watered down style like sonic youth, who also did these kinds of experiments with their music. Same goes for skrillex and so on.

                                                                                      Remember people: experimenting is good.

                                                                                      [–]skysignor 13 points14 points ago

                                                                                      Wait so there are people who think women walk around in public dressed like the girl from the picture?

                                                                                      [–]syriquez 25 points26 points ago

                                                                                      No. But they don't see the parallels between the absurdity on the catwalk and what the big label clothing designers actually sell.

                                                                                      More or less, they don't understand what they're looking at.

                                                                                      [–]Jay_Normous 13 points14 points ago

                                                                                      It's like concept cars. You're never going to see one driving around as a production model, but car designers might draw inspiration from them.

                                                                                      [–]elliptical_illusion 4 points5 points ago

                                                                                      This is going to sound crazy, but as a stylist I can look at this and appreciate the geometric-shape inspiration. Hard textured fabrics and sharp angles, playing with lines and classic contours. Avant-garde is an exaggeration of fashion, so take the essentials out of the style to replicate - the intense shoulders, the formless androgyny, the hardness of the fabric. When a talented designer sends wearable clothes down a runway they are replicated again again with little or no change, thanks to avant-garde, different interpretations stem from an original source, it's pretty awesome.

                                                                                      [–]Anonazon2 2 points3 points ago

                                                                                      That's a lot of words just to say "square"

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                                                                                        [–]Number1AbeLincolnFan 3 points4 points ago

                                                                                        It's the same in every hobby or field of study. There is always a bleeding edge of innovation that has no direct, practical use. But, that's not really the point. The point is to push it to the extreme, then apply what you learned from the exercise to real life. It's an experiment. You have a hypothesis (idea), you test it (catwalk) and use those results to form a theory (retail product).

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                                                                                          [–]vinsite 74 points75 points ago

                                                                                          2D... so hot right now... 2D

                                                                                          [–]lostmygravitas 23 points24 points ago

                                                                                          Rumor has it they are going to make movies in 2D now. They will cost extra and require special glasses to convert the 3D to 2D but I have heard it is awesome. I personally cannot wait to see "Transformers 4: Loud Indistinguishable Robots Fighting" in 2D.

                                                                                          [–]john-r 4 points5 points ago

                                                                                          These already Exsist http://www.2d-glasses.com/

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                                                                                            [–]HORSE_COCK_JUGGLER 69 points70 points ago

                                                                                            Neither will I.

                                                                                            [–]Whosajiggawha 39 points40 points ago

                                                                                            His mom must be so proud of him.

                                                                                            [–]skottdaman 6 points7 points ago

                                                                                            Um... What? People get paid money to do this stuff?

                                                                                            [–]beccaonice 3 points4 points ago

                                                                                            Yeah! Where do I sign up? Looks fun.

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                                                                                              [–]Cool_Wall 466 points467 points ago

                                                                                              You know fashion shows like this only showcase the themes and colors that are coming, you are not supposed to actually wear it.

                                                                                              [–]vidyagames 108 points109 points ago

                                                                                              Yes, people need to learn the difference between Haute Couture and Ready To Wear. There are fashion shows for each, one is for inspiration and themes and imagery and colours and "art", and the other is the actual stuff you buy in the shops.

                                                                                              [–]WeLoveKanjimari 52 points53 points ago

                                                                                              That's why it's called a Fashion Show. It's like an art gallery, except it's moving, and you watch it.

                                                                                              [–]BakedGood 7 points8 points ago

                                                                                              Do people pay to go them? Like they sell tickets?

                                                                                              [–]iamkorean 39 points40 points ago

                                                                                              Most respectable houses do not sell tickets or hand them out to anybody.

                                                                                              Think: Chanel, Givenchy, Louis Vuitton, Balmain, Raf Simons etc.

                                                                                              To be able to get an invitation you have to be a power player in the industry, buyer, press, etc.

                                                                                              For the 'controversial' piece in question, the designing house was: Maison Martin Margiela

                                                                                              You would not be able to buy tickets to see his show.

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                                                                                                  [–]_Aldous_ 331 points332 points ago

                                                                                                  This year's upcoming theme is "2D"?

                                                                                                  [–]knylok 379 points380 points ago

                                                                                                  Based on this image alone?

                                                                                                  Look at the elements. We're seeing beige. Sharp shoulders. No body definition. Old fashioned dress coat. No cleavage. Bangs (hair). Coat hangs below the knee.

                                                                                                  That'd be the theme, based on this single image.

                                                                                                  EDIT: Hands/hangs. What's the difference? :P

                                                                                                  [–]LOHare 102 points103 points ago

                                                                                                  McNutty: You know what they call a guy who pays that much attention to his clothes, don't you?

                                                                                                  Bunk: A grown-up.

                                                                                                  [–]CranberryBogMonster 11 points12 points ago

                                                                                                  I love this quote. I wish that, being from the Wire, it was enough to convince guys on Reddit that it's retarded to criticize someone for caring about or giving attention to their clothing.

                                                                                                  But alas, that is probably a vain hope.

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                                                                                                    [–]mrbarry1024 271 points272 points ago

                                                                                                    No cleavage

                                                                                                    Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

                                                                                                    [–]Barbarus623 36 points37 points ago

                                                                                                    Also, Toby is back.

                                                                                                    [–]Rauwz 28 points29 points ago

                                                                                                    http://i.imgur.com/XWAvo.gif

                                                                                                    [–]drumstyx[!] 3 points4 points ago

                                                                                                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31g0YE61PLQ

                                                                                                    [–]Adelaidey 11 points12 points ago

                                                                                                    Jesus. It's winter wear.

                                                                                                    [–]x15percent 25 points26 points ago

                                                                                                    Thank you for explaining this. TIL.

                                                                                                    [–]hellolizzie 29 points30 points ago

                                                                                                    COATS DON'T HAVE HANDS shows what you know

                                                                                                    [–]sickoldman123 8 points9 points ago

                                                                                                    That's awesome! Never thought of it like that. Thanks, makes sense now!

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                                                                                                      [–]lethargicwalrus 16 points17 points ago

                                                                                                      Well, the models are practically sticks, so...

                                                                                                      [–]kokesh 25 points26 points ago

                                                                                                      Models are already 2D for quite some time. Only their bones are subtly embossed.

                                                                                                      [–]LOHare 6 points7 points ago

                                                                                                      They even have a watermark!

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                                                                                                          [–]Megatron_McLargeHuge 11 points12 points ago

                                                                                                          How else will they fit in a binder?

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                                                                                                            [–]SLAP0 111 points112 points ago

                                                                                                            Isn't there a less hilarious way to do this?

                                                                                                            [–]All_the_rage 99 points100 points ago

                                                                                                            It's like a show or performance, it's not supposed to be practical.

                                                                                                            [–]moogoesthecat 27 points28 points ago

                                                                                                            I'm not trying to fight or anything but...what exactly is it supposed to be?

                                                                                                            [–]grzzzly 170 points171 points ago

                                                                                                            It's "Haute Couture" or "High Dressmaking". They are fabrics, themes, concepts and techniques being explored. It's what drives the entire industry and scene forward.

                                                                                                            Ultimately, some of those elements will be picked up for the "prêt à porter" or "ready to wear" fashion shows. Those will then actually feature clothes that you can wear everyday. However, even those will be presented in a way that underlines the theme and idea of the collection, and thus the outfits themselves may not be wearable.

                                                                                                            If nothing else, be impressed by how difficult it is for any designer and dressmaker to actually create these clothes. This is serious skill being portrayed, which is another function of those shows.

                                                                                                            And another thing, even if you don't care about fashion at all, you are affected by it. These concepts will be watered down and simplified from Haute Couture down to your mass produced clothes that you find in every store. Thus, at some point, you will wear clothes that feature ideas that were at some point displayed in a ridiculous way at an "Haute Couture" show.

                                                                                                            Ever seen "The Devil Wears Prada"? Awful movie, but Meryl Streep explains this in the best scene of that movie.

                                                                                                            edit: link to the scene

                                                                                                            [–]sulejmankulenovic 83 points84 points ago

                                                                                                            To anyone who still doesn't get it, think of it as the concept cars that auto manufacturers make. You're not going to see this on the roads. But elements of the design might make it into a more practical car.

                                                                                                            [–]Rhynocerous 5 points6 points ago

                                                                                                            I would buy the fuck out of that car

                                                                                                            [–]AscorGames 19 points20 points ago

                                                                                                            I would actually drive that though...

                                                                                                            [–]supaphly42 9 points10 points ago

                                                                                                            If I had all the money in the world, I would spend it on being able to drive that thing.

                                                                                                            [–]PhineasTheSeconded 30 points31 points ago

                                                                                                            Yeah, but lots of people wish concept cars would go into production. They usually look awesome. This is... silly.

                                                                                                            [–]theroarer 39 points40 points ago

                                                                                                            Some people would argue that the car looks silly, and that the themes from fashion are more practical- everyone wears clothes, and most people want to look nice, so they wear them (the fashion). Just devil's advocate here.

                                                                                                            [–]Magrippinho 9 points10 points ago

                                                                                                            I get what you're saying, and I find the parallel between haute coutoure and concept cars fantastic and helpful.

                                                                                                            Still, I get what Phineas is saying as well: Some people would happily drive concept cars, while I don't think anyone would wear high fashion clothes. Well, unless you are Lady Gaga, I guess.

                                                                                                            If you were gifted a concept car, all expenses paid, wouldn't you drive it? But, if you were given a full line of that kind of clothing, would you really wear it?

                                                                                                            [–]seagramsextradrygin 4 points5 points ago

                                                                                                            It was just an analogy and thus helps to enlighten the general point but doesn't have to be parallel on every level. Every analogy falls apart somewhere.

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                                                                                                                [–]bocanegra 8 points9 points ago

                                                                                                                Most concept cars, including sulej's example above seem silly to me (and most people i know). I would never drive something that ridiculous to the market or to my kids' school. Same with fashion shows, you may not like it, but at least try to understand its function.

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                                                                                                                  [–]DKroner 7 points8 points ago

                                                                                                                  A key difference is that I think the vast majority of concept cars are desirable to most people while the same is not true with high fashion at all.

                                                                                                                  [–]bocanegra 2 points3 points ago

                                                                                                                  Would you really drive that to work every day? It's ridiculous, impractical and probably unconfortable. It may be desirable to 12 year olds and wanna be alpha males, but I doubt "most people" would feel confortable driving that.

                                                                                                                  [–]Sypike 5 points6 points ago

                                                                                                                  I would endure being "uncomfortable" if it means I own that car. I don't see how it's ridiculous or impractical, I mean people drive Hummers every day and that's way more impractical than a sleek convertible...

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                                                                                                                      [–]wallaceeffect 17 points18 points ago

                                                                                                                      Furthermore, the bizarre things that you see are not usually from true haute couture designers. They're usually from no-names trying to get noticed for being as weird as possible. True haute couture is so rarely weird for weirdness' sake like this. At real couture shows, things like this and this walk the runways. They're not intended for real life, but they're beautiful, unquestionably works of art, and drive the industry forward.

                                                                                                                      [–]jingowatt 12 points13 points ago

                                                                                                                      Awful movie? Awful movie? What?

                                                                                                                      [–]jtregoat 2 points3 points ago

                                                                                                                      with the Yves saint Laurent? that was AWESOME. awesome film

                                                                                                                      [–]HEE_HAW 2 points3 points ago

                                                                                                                      For time first time in my adult life, I understand a little of fashion (shows). It's about concepts, rather than the real thing.

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                                                                                                                        [–]xtiaaneubaten 12 points13 points ago

                                                                                                                        you know when an artist has a show in a gallery and you walk in and your like "fuck modern art I could totally do that" (but of course you didnt and never will) its that, but for fashion designers

                                                                                                                        [–]Milkgunner 29 points30 points ago

                                                                                                                        Art. Most of what you think is ridiculous fashion is art.

                                                                                                                        [–]retard90 8 points9 points ago

                                                                                                                        i don't see how ridiculous fashion is video games

                                                                                                                        [–]ObjectiveTits 11 points12 points ago

                                                                                                                        Never played a Final Fantasy I see.

                                                                                                                        [–]koppck 1 point2 points ago

                                                                                                                        A girl standing in a window menstruating onto a sheet of paper is also "art".

                                                                                                                        [–]Milkgunner 21 points22 points ago

                                                                                                                        Your point being?

                                                                                                                        [–]pikatu 16 points17 points ago

                                                                                                                        We should all be engineers. Obviously.

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                                                                                                                                    [–]hooplah 47 points48 points ago

                                                                                                                                    That's not true.

                                                                                                                                    Fashion shows showcase pieces designed by designers for the line. Some are conceptual, some are completely wearable. You're meant to pick and choose what you want to wear and incorporate them into outfits on your own.

                                                                                                                                    Edit: Every time a thread about fashion comes up on r/all, I feel the need to copy and paste a comment I made about a year ago:

                                                                                                                                    This is kind of incorrect.

                                                                                                                                    There are two different types of runway shows. Ready to Wear (Pret-a-Porter/RTW) and Couture.

                                                                                                                                    Ready to Wear is, as its name implies, supposed to be ready to wear straight off the runway. However, designers put a lot of effort into their runway shows and see it as a giant sort of "premiere" for their new seasonal collections (there are typically four seasons per year: Fall/Winter, Spring Summer, Resort, and Pre-Fall). Thus, the designers will sometimes go over-the-top with the spectacle side of things.

                                                                                                                                    However, the important thing to notice, and more pertinent to the OP's question, is that the looks are often not meant to be worn straight off the runway. Pieces of the looks (e.g. a jacket, pants, a skirt, a dress) will be available for purchase, but designers aren't expecting someone in a normal context to copy their look to the T. The outlandish outfits put together by the designers and their teams are meant to convey the general feeling of the collection.

                                                                                                                                    Couture is completely different. There are two seasons for couture: Spring and Fall. To be an official couturier (maker of couture), you have to be legally ordained by the French government. No, Juicy Couture is not couture. Couture is hand-made by houses such as Dior and Chanel, and each garment is extremely intricate and one-of-a-kind. This is where designers and their houses get to really show off their skills and visions.

                                                                                                                                    Nearly all of the official couture houses have a RTW line as well. This does not mean that the couture collection and RTW are expected to correspond to each other in any way. Some RTW designers even have a second, more affordable line (e.g. Chloe and See by Chloe, Moschino and Moschino Cheap and Chic, Marc Jacobs and Marc by Marc Jacobs).

                                                                                                                                    Each house or brand (e.g. Chanel, Balenciaga, Jil Sander, Lanvin, Proenza Schouler, Stella McCartney) has a head designer (Karl Lagerfeld, Nicholas Ghesquiere, Jil Sander, Alber Elbaz, Jack McCoullough/Lazaro Hernandez, Stella McCartney, respectively). These designers are kind of the figurehead of the team, and then they have a very respected team of designers working below them. The amount of input the head designer actually has can vary--some are hands-on, some prefer to set the "mood" of the collection and then design a few pieces and leave their team to it.

                                                                                                                                    Sorry for the long-winded response, I just loathe to see an over-dramatized and partly false response to a question so horrifyingly misunderstood by most people. Sitting at the top of the comments, no less.

                                                                                                                                    Edit: adding something from another comment I made--To clarify what I mean by "streamlined" is that the commenter makes it seem as if everything from couture to Wal Mart is done cooperatively and in-house. It is not so. It's pretty much a matter of lower-echelon design companies ripping off of high fashion designers and then mass-producing the garments for the general public and with much lower quality construction and materials.

                                                                                                                                    For example, Balenciaga does not have, and will never have, a diluted line for Macy's.

                                                                                                                                    Second edit: Also, "haute couture sales"--this is kind of a non-existent factor. I believe you are mistakenly using the term "haute couture" interchangeably with "runway." Haute couture is generally not for "sale."

                                                                                                                                    Morning After edit: Might I also add that the "in" and "out" concepts that people have about fashion (e.g. this is in one season and out the other, _________ is the new _________) are highly overexaggerated. Certain things may trend because several designers feature them in their collections, but it's not like someone is going to walk up to another person and slap them in the face for being "out of season."

                                                                                                                                    Also, I would like to clarify, as clearly as possible, that designers do not design couture and then dumb it down for RTW and then dumb it down for retail.

                                                                                                                                    Many people seem to be under the illusion that runway designers are the great "orchestrators" of world fashion and make dramatic decisions like, "GREEN IS THE NEW THING, our entire collection will be green and then everyone will wear green because I said so." In truth, designers design whatever they may be influenced by that season--cars, a film, a vacation they took, literature or art.

                                                                                                                                    [–]uberguby 5 points6 points ago

                                                                                                                                    It's almost like Fashion is an art form and not the out of control insanity meta beast people paint it as.

                                                                                                                                    Do you keep a blog or something? Fashion is something I have never ever been able to get my head around, but have been insatiably curious about for a while.

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                                                                                                                                      [–]shaun252 26 points27 points ago

                                                                                                                                      The theme this year is envelope

                                                                                                                                      [–]aDFP 7 points8 points ago

                                                                                                                                      That's pushing it.

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                                                                                                                                        [–]lethargicwalrus 10 points11 points ago

                                                                                                                                        Knowledge bomb.

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                                                                                                                                          [–]Raxshi 13 points14 points ago

                                                                                                                                          What I thought of when I saw this.

                                                                                                                                          [–]griffith12 9 points10 points ago

                                                                                                                                          First image that popped into my head was this

                                                                                                                                          [–]timebomb011 9 points10 points ago

                                                                                                                                          i think the misconception with "fashion" is that there are 2 sort of types. there is fashion that is actually for people to wear (not this). and there is fashion that is really just an art show (this)

                                                                                                                                          [–]pgibso 27 points28 points ago

                                                                                                                                          SOME PEOPLE JUST DONT GET IT http://i.imgur.com/OCtR6.jpg

                                                                                                                                          [–]memecore 8 points9 points ago

                                                                                                                                          I'm sorry, but that outfit is fucking awesome.

                                                                                                                                          [–]Mitosis 27 points28 points ago

                                                                                                                                          High fashion is just like art house indie films, or more niche indie video games. They aren't necessarily intended for mass consumption, but people well versed in the medium and the industry who have seen it all before can appreciate the goals and intent of the work and take more from it than the layman walking in from the street. They also tend to be a precursor to ideas that spread to the industry at large and eventually do become mass-market products.

                                                                                                                                          [–]zephyy 30 points31 points ago

                                                                                                                                          Hint: This outfit was never designed with an intention to be sold anywhere. Catwalk 'high' fashion like this is like an art gallery opening, it's artists showing off their designs.

                                                                                                                                          [–]skysignor 6 points7 points ago

                                                                                                                                          Wow did that really need to be said? I guess probably huh

                                                                                                                                          [–]redditgolddigg3r 3 points4 points ago

                                                                                                                                          By the comments in this thread... yes.

                                                                                                                                          [–]theMangl3r 13 points14 points ago

                                                                                                                                          Spongebob!

                                                                                                                                          [–]comadremadre 15 points16 points ago

                                                                                                                                          She looks like a sack lunch... Hope there's a nice note from mom inside.

                                                                                                                                          [–]Brocktoon_in_a_jar 10 points11 points ago

                                                                                                                                          There's two types of fashion: haute coutre (high fashion) and pret a porter (ready to wear). This is clearly an example of the former. There, fashion understood! Cry me a Joan Rivers!

                                                                                                                                          [–]Arty_Yo 13 points14 points ago

                                                                                                                                          This is haute couture, or "fashion as an artistic experiment". This is an artistic piece, which will usually serve as an influence to a designers pret-a-porter normal range.

                                                                                                                                          [–]deafandpissed 4 points5 points ago

                                                                                                                                          DERELICTE!!!

                                                                                                                                          (EDIT: Pay special attention to 1:16)

                                                                                                                                          [–]NopeCopter 4 points5 points ago

                                                                                                                                          Runway shows you have to approach differently. As if they are a moving art exhibit. Not so much trying to sell you a specific piece of clothing. However you can get an idea for what color themes the designer is going to push that season. But usually it's a given. Lots of times people do seek out runway items to collect. I have a pair of black waxed dior homme jeans that were on a runway a bunch of seasons ago. But they are rather normal looking, if a bit fashiony because of the way the denim looks.

                                                                                                                                          [–]lethargicwalrus 10 points11 points ago

                                                                                                                                          It's a symbol of oppression in society.

                                                                                                                                          [–]happyfunball 12 points13 points ago

                                                                                                                                          It's a symbol of modern ennui. The buttoned-up brown box she's encased in hides a compost heap of discarded emotions.

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                                                                                                                                            [–]FuzzyNutters -1 points0 points ago

                                                                                                                                            Paper bag princess

                                                                                                                                            [–]Reesch 2 points3 points ago

                                                                                                                                            Maybe she was born with it.

                                                                                                                                            [–]ProfoundHound 1 point2 points ago

                                                                                                                                            "Im a lunch bag!"

                                                                                                                                            [–]newfag_tr0ll 5 points6 points ago

                                                                                                                                            I never understood the whole "flat chested models" thing.

                                                                                                                                            [–]bcarle 69 points70 points ago

                                                                                                                                            Boobs distract from the dress. It's the opposite of how people buy clothes - they find a girl that makes you focus on the dress, rather than a dress that makes you focus on the girl.

                                                                                                                                            [–]XIIIGanon 18 points19 points ago

                                                                                                                                            I'm learning so many things about high fashion in this thread and it's all making a surprising amount of sense.

                                                                                                                                            [–]Say_Ocean 3 points4 points ago

                                                                                                                                            It's easy to hate things when you don't understand. I'm learning a lot too.

                                                                                                                                            [–]bcarle 3 points4 points ago

                                                                                                                                            I hooked up with a designer girl like three times in college. It was pretty educational haha

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                                                                                                                                                [–]Vorpal_Bunny 19 points20 points ago

                                                                                                                                                The point of a model is that the focus is on the clothing, not the person wearing them.

                                                                                                                                                [–]fireenginered 24 points25 points ago

                                                                                                                                                They're going for a human coathanger.

                                                                                                                                                [–]ellyse 5 points6 points ago

                                                                                                                                                In addition to what others said about then distracting from the dress, breasts and other curvy bits make it harder to fit the clothes on the models. The models tend to all be fairly interchangeable to reduce time and money needed for the show.

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                                                                                                                                                  [–]Scorpius289 2 points3 points ago

                                                                                                                                                  How foolish! Does that stupid 3D pig really think she can trick us like that? She doesn't hold a candle to my waifu! All hail 2D girls!

                                                                                                                                                  [–]dumbkid 1 point2 points ago

                                                                                                                                                  the sad thing is there are shitloads of people on /a/ and stuff who actually think this

                                                                                                                                                  [–]SpaceManAndy 3 points4 points ago

                                                                                                                                                  It will help if you think of runway shows like the art you see at a museum. Just because you don't want to hang the art in your house, doesn't mean you can't appreciate the aesthetic of it in the museum. Fashion is the same. Just because you wouldn't wear it/can't picture anyone you know wearing it, doesn't mean it doesn't have an aesthetic appeal.

                                                                                                                                                  [–]kharmedy 4 points5 points ago

                                                                                                                                                  It's easy to understand "High Fashion" just remember that it's all created by delusional, pretentious trust fund kids who grew up being told that everything they did was amazing. Watching them get interviewed at fashion shows is one of them most cringe inducing spectacles I've ever had the displeasure to witness. They talk about their "art" like they spent hours scrutinizing every stitch and button choice when in reality they just shoot heroin, grab a bunch of fabric and try to make it more ridiculous than they every other asshole who does this.

                                                                                                                                                  These people are even more embarrassing than the families on shows like Honey Boo Boo or Duck Dynasty. Sure those families do some stupid shit but at least they are generally having fun and realize what most people think of them. These high fashion kids are so stuck up each others asses that they can't see making a giant brown paper bag dress isn't clever or innovative, it's just bullshit.

                                                                                                                                                  [–]blairboy 0 points1 point ago

                                                                                                                                                  Thank you so much for that. "It's haute coture." No, it's shitty. Watch the end scene in White Chicks for the best example ever.

                                                                                                                                                  [–]r_tarandus 2 points3 points ago

                                                                                                                                                  I think you're examining this as an outsider of the culture that you're looking in. Just because folks can seem a little pretentious doesn't mean that it's contrived; most of the time it's authentic and they do care as much as they say. Just because you might not care as much doesn't mean that someone else can. Why don't you get off your own high horse?

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