Art Students under either Candidate

KindBass · 1 day

I love how reddit always puts college students into one of two categories: Engineer Master Race or future McDonald's/Starbucks employee.

bobmillahhh · 1 day

Hey now... I'll be graduating in the spring with a degree in Economics, and I won't be able to get a job either...

^{^{^because}} ^{^{^of}} ^{^{^my}} ^{^{^shitty}} ^{^{^gpa.}}

six60six · 1 day

BFA here currently making over 20k a month in the advertising world. Suck it MBA's.

iputbananasinmybutt · 1 day

Hello, I have a PhD in Art, I will be your gym class substitute today.

Lilyo · 1 day

I find it funny that so many people laugh at art majors. The reality is if you're actually GOOD at what you're doing and have the willpower to actually go out there and make yourself known through your portfolio and work during college then you really won't have a problem getting a job after you graduate. Getting a job in a field you're interested in is a different deal, but finding a job as an illustrator, cartoonist, graphic designer, concept artist, print seller, indie game designer, animator, etc. really isn't as hard as people think it is and the industry is growing at a pretty fast rate. The problem is actually being good and not lazy and spending all your time complaining about how hard it is to be an artist. No fucking shit, but complaining won't get you anywhere. Go out there and get yourself noticed you lazy bum.

Marz765 · 1 day

hey.... im a junior in high school thinking about going to an art college...is this a bad idea?

the_brew · 1 day

Those are some amazing color-changing ties.

ELONGATEDSNAIL · 1 day

If you are good artist and have good time management skills freelancing can make you a lot of money. Also in some situations you can ask for cash and make it tax free :p

jimlandau · 1 day

I have a studio arts degree in sculpture. I currently am employed and make over $60K/year.

shmool · 1 day

Art degrees allow you to work in so many different industries, I guess it's just that many people who have them prefer to be working artists. There is such a misconception about this. If you want an example, the CEO of Eyeko (a higher-end cosmetics company) has an art degree, she also worked for Wired magazine and a bunch of other stuff (IIRC, just happened to read a vogue article about her a while ago).

I'm not an art student, but it kinda annoys me to hear people perpetuating this kind of rubbish.

mick4state · 1 day

But they just opened up that huge art factory in Cleveland!

Goldmine44 · 1 day

Heaven forbid someone major in something they enjoy.

crentist1 · 1 day

That is one powerful art student... He managed to switch their ties

r_schleufer · 1 day

I understand and appreciate the humor of this, but there are a few people who are exceptions. I have nothing more than an AFA degree and I design/animate Flash games for Nickelodeon. Even the banner work I do is interesting stuff (to me at least).

ortcutt · 1 day

Mitt Romney has a BA in English. Barack Obama has a BA in Political Science. It doesn't seem that either has suffered in life, either in achievement or in income.

Aznb01p · 1 day

Engineering Master Race checking in.

Kinseyincanada · 1 day

This sites circlejerk over any degree not in the sciences is pathetic.

krshelton · 1 day

I graduated with my degree in Art Education (3 years ago) and straight out of college I got a job teaching at 2 Elementary schools making close to 40,000 a year. Then I moved and took another job teaching high school ceramics making over 40,000 yearly.

You can believe what you want about how crappy the economy is or you can hit the pavement like I did. I ticks me off when people say there is no future in the arts. The arts are EVERYWHERE.

I2ichmond · 1 day

You know, it's funny how we ridicule art students. They follow their passion fully aware that their chances of getting a job with their degree, but rather only to enrich their lives (i.e. what college was invented for), and then if they are successful they are the most purely self-made individuals out there.

Don't try to argue that you're contributing more to the world with your data entry job behind a desk at some fucking bank than someone who puts real, tangible material out into the world.

Not to mention, all the dumb shit we consume takes artists to make if it's even worth consuming.

Utenlok · 1 day

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WM-EUEZTbM

SKSmokes · 1 day

I see a lot of pent up irritation in this topic about majors people had that didn't land them a job (but was their passion) or majors people chose to improve their economic future.

If your passion happens to be currently unmarketable you could always compromise and do a major/minor sort of thing. I majored in computer engineering so I could get a job but minored in philosophy. I had more than enough philosophy credits to get a minor (I was about 2/3rds to a major) and finished in 4 years.

Yes, it was a little more work (especially working 2 jobs), but there was no additional debt (it's the number of years that matters in most 4 year schools, not the credit hours taken) and it's only kind of extra work since it is something you enjoy anyway.

I now spend my days debating whether the keyboard I type on actually exists and about the ethicality of calling a defect an enhancement.

Punksworth · 1 day

He's actually studying exercise science (http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/Jeremy-Debate-Obama-Romney-First-Question-Hofstra-174578291.html)

I think people just say this to cope with the fact that they too will have trouble finding work

(not as bad as an art major of course, but unless you're an engineering major with a high gpa or a doctor/nurse the economy is going to make it hard for anyone to find full employment)

im_eh_Canadian · 1 day

does Reddit want more government or less? shouldn't this be up to the private sector to hire people and not the government. (I know there are government jobs). also how does one go about creating more jobs without fucking up the economy.

im a dumb Canadian talking about american shit so be gentle

codyhart · 1 day

"sport management"... what a minor in business and fun that is

TChuff · 1 day

Fantastic.

themanfrommars101 · 1 day

A degree in Art can get you a job in graphic design, fashion, animation, entertainment, architecture etc.

Zhumanchu · 1 day

Best way to get a job in art: stick with academia. Get an MA and get a job teaching at a university. Good money, access to university resources and networks, etc. Problem: it's damn hard to get a teaching post at a university. Each uni hires maybe once every ten years, and has a small staff.

SgtOddball · 1 day

I think a valid response would have mentioned the need to increase the interest in science and technology in young people. Invest in these programs to raise future engineers (among other technical professions). There are tons of job openings in technical fields.

EDIT: To clarify, people should do what they want. If art or philosophy is your passion, go for it and good luck to you. But if we expose science more adequately to more students, more of them will find an interest and pursue a technical occupation.

smartlikeafox · 1 day

Sad art student is sad.

Manos_Of_Fate · 1 day

I dunno, I think time travelling Young Adam Sandler will do pretty well for himself.

Simspidey · 1 day

Gosh these guys have so much money their ties can change colors?!?!?!

OnlyToolsHateJules · 1 day

What were there actual answers?

chuckles2013 · 1 day

A better answer: The world does not owe you a living. If you want reassurance that you will be able to support yourself, try starting your own business.

It doesn't matter how smart or educated you are, if you work for someone else, you are dependent on them for your living.

vuxa · 1 day

So let me get this right, it's cool if people post politics related meme's and macro's here but only if they're not singling out either candidate?

mimetrick · 1 day

What do you want them to do? Somehow create a demand for art majors?

Fable_ · 1 day

This isnt even a meme let alone an advice animal? And most likely a repost from /r/funny

liv2ryd · 1 day

Uh, I wouldn't laugh at him. They laughed at Hitler when he wanted to have an art career and we all know he didn't handle that very well

caboose1984 · 1 day

Holy shit how did they change ties so fast?

WithFish · 1 day

Art students are like that under any candidate... or any government for that matter...

Not_a_bot_bot · 1 day

What do you do with a B.A. in English?

avsc_ · 1 day

MFA is the new MBA. If you're lost in the myth that your degree gets you a career, or a job, or even financial security, than you're not focused on what is really important - the reason you pursued your education. It's the desire to hone/practice/study the craft to get you where you want to be. Not all business students get or start businesses and the most successful STEM students chose to research what they wanted to research.

Mahl3r · 1 day

As a music major, this thrills me..

magylo · 1 day

Ransom notes are worth more than most diplomas.

canadope · 1 day

These posts always attract the superior crowd.. I'm Canadian, have an English degree, and make a comfortable living working an office job for a large bank. C'mon, make yourself feel better! Hate! Tell me how your job/degree defines you and makes you better than me.

apidocs · 1 day

Why does everyone want to work so much...

ittakesacrane · 1 day

i went to college for a while then decided it wasn't really for me. I was majoring in philosophy and I discovered that everything I was learning could be learned for free via wikipedia or my public library. Anyway, I got into construction and now I'm an instrument fitter. I live pretty comfortably, but sometimes I still get that vibe that certain people look down on me because I don't have a degree. If they're particularly smug about it, I tell them if they promise not to judge me for not having a degree, I'll promise not to judge them for making $20k/yr less than I do.

theWolfPack · 1 day

inb4 shitstorm because you just insulted a majority of reddit

CJ_Guns · 1 day

The only people I hear complaining about art majors complaining about jobs are engineering students on Reddit.

jungz · 1 day

Haha most art schools have a pretty good employment rate right now. Not to mention that the upper end of design school practically guarantee you a job before you even graduate. With the age of trendy startups around us, creative people are in high-demand.

Downvoted_Defender · 1 day

I know there's a furious jerk about the worthlessness of arts programs and engineering master race and I hate that shit.

However, it's naive to think that you can just pick some random thing to study at college and expect a job. I know arts students get this super bad from everyone but it's like if I decided to major in ancient Greek pottery history why would I ever expect a job out of that?

There's probably 5 people in the world who have good knowledge of that subject area and that's enough to completely saturate the market. If you want to study arts you have got to be realistic.

Same goes for any discipline really, but arts is one of the worst for it.

wastingmydayoff · 1 day

Meanwhile Reddit gives a million upvotes to people who melt crayons on canvas.

SmashingLumpkins · 1 day

cant spell fart, without art.

ChinatownHustler · 1 day

The conception that you won't be able to find a job if you're an arts graduate is almost as stupid as the conception that you'll be having jobs thrown at you if you are an engineering graduate. There are no guaranteed jobs for any graduate regardless of your degree and I know plenty of engineering grads who cannot find a job and do not realize it is because all they have is a piece of paper and no true skills that employees look for.

asketchbook · 1 day

I have a hard time finding sympathy for art students who are discouraged about finding a job. Pursuing a creative field does not mean being ignorant to business or technology trends.

NotACrazyPerson · 1 day

As a Business student I feel lost in all these Art vs Engineering debates in the thread

dokey · 1 day

All whining from art students and collective high-fiving from engineers aside, can it be agreed upon that it's completely acceptable and encouraged to invest time and money into an institution that, through a proper curriculum, helps that individual develop the skills he or she needs to be proficient at said profession, as long as that individual plans parallel with his or her resources and opportunities?

TL;DR - don't attend an expensive school concentrated in a financially unsatisfying career if you're worried about getting fucked by massive student loans.

DaasRacist · 1 day

as a high school drop out...idk :(

mlurve · 1 day

In case anyone is curious, he's actually an exercise science major. The local news up here reported it (I'd find a link but I'm on my phone)

pinkfloyd873 · 1 day

I'm going to be brutally honest for a minute here, when I say that it's my honest opinion that most (NOT ALL, but MOST) modern artists contribute almost nothing to society, and as such, there simply aren't a lot of jobs in the field of art history, or Inuit art, or whatever obscure art field. Obviously Shakespheare and Walt Whitman and Da Vinci and all those other famous artists contributed a lot to science, but think of all the other artists that weren't famous or important in any way... The plain and simple fact of the matter is that scientists, on the whole, contribute more to society than artists.

Raav · 1 day

Double majoring in Economics and Geophysics.

Oh the synergy.

iahawk · 1 day

Is it just that there are no jobs or people just getting majors in stupid subjects i.e. drama major, liberal arts major?

vishalb777 · 1 day

The kid says "Mr. president, governer Romnet, as a 20-year old college student, all I hear from professors, neighbors and others is that when I graduate, I will have little chance to get employment. What can you say to reassure me, but more importantly my parents, that I will be able to sufficiently support myself after I graduate?"

Demosecrecy · 1 day

Not everyone can be a Banksy.

The world needs adult websight page designers also.

You think Little Lupe designed her own homepage?

frankbecerra · 1 day

I love the camaraderie

AdviceAnimals

AA's Official Position on Reddit Drama, Please Post Accordingly

Welcome to r/AdviceAnimals

Sound advice from animals anything!

Rules

Making Memes

Visit:

or use

Messaging the mods

You might also enjoy:

Our Family

and Friends

Good Guy Gregs check the new queue

MODERATORS