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A Muslim Man Asks His Local Ice Cream Store A Question. This Is The Outrageous Answer He Got. (i.imgur.com)
submitted 1 day ago by Man-Created-God
[–]joetoc 298 points299 points300 points 1 day ago
Funniest part? Judge mental.
[–]DeFex 49 points50 points51 points 1 day ago
That's what I call judge Judy.
[–]crazy_loop 15 points16 points17 points 1 day ago
You definitely don't want him at your trial.
[–]RPShep 25 points26 points27 points 1 day ago
Judge Mental
[–]tinydancerboy 9 points10 points11 points 1 day ago
Judge Yentl
[–]creepyfinger 2 points3 points4 points 19 hours ago
"Hey...that would be a good name! Judge Mental!"
[–]Man-Created-God[S] 841 points842 points843 points 1 day ago
This is actually a response they put to this on their Facebook page's description: "We recently had an incident on our Facebook page where our president responded to a question about ingredients in our ice cream. He mistakenly thought a pin on the map of Pakistan on the poster's Facebook page meant he was from Pakistan, a mistake he completely regrets and did apologize for. We have since taken the reins of the Facebook page away from our president, who is self-admittedly not tech-savvy, and got him back to what he does the best--running the company that makes the best ice cream ever. We thank our fans for understanding that this was a mistake on our part. We are extremely sorry for the misunderstanding and hurt we caused. We are asking your forgiveness and another chance to wow you with our ice cream."
[–]the_mad_felcher 414 points415 points416 points 1 day ago
They still didn't answer the fucking question.
[–]LinearFluid 79 points80 points81 points 1 day ago
They use Kosher Gelatin
[–]RedHerringxx 47 points48 points49 points 1 day ago
Says you!
[–]ImNotRichard 55 points56 points57 points 1 day ago
Good enough for me. Although I'm not a Muslim from Pakistan so what do i care.
[–]beathau5 47 points48 points49 points 1 day ago
Neither apparently are you Richard
[–]HonkeyFresh 11 points12 points13 points 20 hours ago
They use soylent gelatin
[–]4everbridesmaid 7 points8 points9 points 1 day ago
Dry ice makes our shipping costs prohibitive. Next question
[–]anis9 474 points475 points476 points 1 day ago*
So instead of actually answering the question, Mr. "non-techie" President decides to check out the poster's Facebook profile or location tag first?
Why would he need to comment on the location tag? Does it contain pork or not? You don't need to check the man's profile, photos, or maps to answer that.
Sounds like a bullshit excuse to me. A lame one too.
[–]_______walrus 154 points155 points156 points 1 day ago
It's just another sad attempt at a company trying to cover its ass unfortunately. I feel like there are too many of these bullshit excuses given today by companies caught saying highly questionable things. At least social media allows for a large exposure of a company's true colors.
[–]Queen_Sucks 22 points23 points24 points 1 day ago
I don't know, it seems really odd that he would actually say that. Even if he hates Muslims, he has to know that saying offensive things on Facebook is bad for business. I think it's sort of plausible that it was just a mistake.
[–]Zarianna 49 points50 points51 points 1 day ago
The thing is, people who are that racist often assume everyone else (that matters) is too. They don't think they'll get flak, because obviously all of their upstanding white customers will agree with them.
[–]ZeroGSpaceCow 19 points20 points21 points 19 hours ago
This is sooooo true. I'm a white guy and I live in the south. It's astounding how many time random white strangers have said racist shit about other people in the vicinity to me, just assuming everyone else is racist like them.
Racists seem to assume everyone else is also racist, just not as "open" about it. And the people who aren't racist are just oversensitive little girls.
[–]thirstquencherG 31 points32 points33 points 1 day ago
Why do they gotta be white? You racist fuck.
[–]mhacdebhandia 38 points39 points40 points 1 day ago
Montana.
[–]A1Skeptic 6 points7 points8 points 16 hours ago
thirstquencherG@"Why do they gotta be white? You racist fuck." They don't "gotta be white", they were self selected "random white strangers [who] have said racist shit [within earshot]" of 'Floating Space Cow' you ignorant race baiting Energy Drink.
[–]Afrojitsu 2 points3 points4 points 1 day ago
Maybe he was trying to make their page look extraordinarily patriotic.. In a Muslim-hating sort of way
[–]_depression 65 points66 points67 points 1 day ago
During damage control, I'm sure someone checked the poster's Facebook page to see if they could use anything as an excuse, and must have seen the pinned map.
[–]YourACoolGuy 33 points34 points35 points 1 day ago*
You're completely right. I work in PR. Their PR rep did a horrible job explaining the situation with that excuse. Admitting that the president made the comment was unnecessary and bad for the company. They sound sincere, but the "non tech suavy" excuse is just horrible. This situation definitely could have been handled way better.
[–]ampellang 84 points85 points86 points 1 day ago
I don't know. Sounds totally reasonable to me. Sometimes I get on these websites, and everything gets so confusing and I don't know where to click, and then, china-men.
[–]fry_dave 14 points15 points16 points 1 day ago
Dude. They're an ice cream shop on the Wyoming-Montana border. I doubt they have much of a PR department.
[–]Visionism 18 points19 points20 points 20 hours ago
Yes he's what we tech-savvy people call a "bigoted ignorant redneck shitkicker" Stop me if I'm getting too technical here.
[–]CampBenCh 23 points24 points25 points 1 day ago
Article on this
[–]ShittehKitteh 18 points19 points20 points 1 day ago
The comments in that article... Exactly what the fuck is in the water there? The amount of people that agree with what was said is astounding. The President of the company made a very insensitive remark and people are lining up to defend him.
[–]CampBenCh 12 points13 points14 points 1 day ago*
You don't want to read the comment on their Facebook when they posted the article. Living here is interesting some times...
Edit: I'm on my phone but this link should work- http://www.facebook.com/billingsgazette/posts/108972875925424
[–]ShittehKitteh 10 points11 points12 points 1 day ago
I went to their Facebook page right after I posted. I hate painting with a broad brush but there certainly seems to be a whole heap of idiots supporting the jackass.
[–]oldjonnesy 128 points129 points130 points 1 day ago
I've seen other companies use that sort of response. "Our president/CEO is an idiot, herp derp, bless his heart. We have now locked him back in his cage, lol"
Trying to look young and hip at the same time as deflecting criticism?
[–]thegunboats 41 points42 points43 points 1 day ago
I've never seen a company admit it was the president and not some dude in charge of "social media".
[–]Darth_Meatloaf 25 points26 points27 points 1 day ago
I have. It's pretty standard when claiming the CEO was at fault to say that he's a doddering old man who didn't know what he was doing with this new-fangled techno-stuff.
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[–]Demojen 16 points17 points18 points 1 day ago
Do you have any Pakistani flavored ice cream?
[–]PazingerZ 688 points689 points690 points 1 day ago
I don't buy it. That response would have been rude even if the man was asking from a foreign country.
[–]CallMeMoo 88 points89 points90 points 1 day ago
Exactly. The guy could have just actually fucking answered the question. It would have been THAT simple.
[–]Reddit-Hivemind 27 points28 points29 points 1 day ago
If it's a lie, you make the fall guy someone you can easily fire, "our social media intern", not the goddamn head of the company.
[–]OKImHere 320 points321 points322 points 1 day ago
What's more likely- that an old person is trying to use the Internet or that the company decided to nuke itself?
[–]PazingerZ 36 points37 points38 points 1 day ago
What about an old person using the internet who doesn't realize that most people aren't on board with being dicks to Muslims for no reason?
[–]fknbastard 8 points9 points10 points 1 day ago
Actually, I'd suggest there's many a place...Facebook included, where one can be rather insulated from opinion and find this kind of pap totally acceptable. He was probably quite surprised to find that 'merika didn't all completely agree.
I'm assuming because his response was dickish in every way.
[–]gbloem 117 points118 points119 points 1 day ago
I don't buy any of it. What kind of person names their ice cream shop "Wilcoxson's"?
[–]Unqualified_Opinion 151 points152 points153 points 1 day ago
Someone named Wilcoxson?
[–]decodersignal 239 points240 points241 points 1 day ago
I AM ICE CREAM MAN, SON OF WILCOX.
[–]Ameisen 89 points90 points91 points 1 day ago*
Ladies and gentlemen, I've traveled over half our state to be here tonight; I couldn't get away sooner because my new creamery was coming in at Coyote Hills and I had to see about it. That creamery is now flowing at two thousand cones and it's paying me an income of five thousand dollars a week. I have two others freezing and I have sixteen producing at Antelope. So, ladies and gentlemen, if I say I'm an ice cream man you will agree. You have a great chance here, but bear in mind, you can lose it all if you're not careful. Out of all men that beg for a chance to freeze your lots, maybe one in twenty will be ice cream men; the rest will be retailer - that's men trying to get between you and the ice cream men, to get some of the money that ought by rights come to you. Even if you find one that has money, and means to freeze, he'll maybe know nothing about ice cream and he'll have to hire out the job on contract, and then you're depending on a contractor that's trying to rush the job through so he can get another contract just as quick as he can. This is... the way that this works.
EDIT: Movie Poster
[–]Death_by_carfire 13 points14 points15 points 1 day ago
What is your offer? We're wasting time.
[–]Ameisen 39 points40 points41 points 1 day ago
I do my own scooping and the men that work for me work for me and they are men I know. I make it my business to be there and see to their work. I don't lose my scoop in the carton and spend minutes fishing for them; I don't botch the toppings and let the chocolate run and ruin the whole sundae. I'm a family man - I run a family business. This is my son and my partner, H.W. Wilcoxson. We offer you the bond of family that very few ice cream men can understand. I'm fixed like no other company in this field and that's because my Coyote Hills creamery has just come in. I have a string of scoops all ready to work. I can load a freezer onto trucks and have them here in a week. I have business connections so I can get the milk for the cream; such things go by friendship in a rush like this. And this is why I can guarantee to start freezing and put up the cash to back my word. I assure you, whatever the others promise to do, when it comes to the showdown, they won't be there.
[–]SuperEdo 3 points4 points5 points 1 day ago
Lost it on "H.W. Wilcoxson".
[–]icepickjones 9 points10 points11 points 1 day ago
I'VE ABANDONED MY ROCK SALT!
[–]Ameisen 9 points10 points11 points 1 day ago
Give me the hot fudge, Eli, and let me get out of here. GIVE ME THE HOT FUDGE, LORD, AND LET ME GET AWAY!
[–]FromMichigan 4 points5 points6 points 1 day ago
"SHUT THAT WOMAN UP" - Romney's great great grandad.
[–]Ameisen 3 points4 points5 points 1 day ago
I don't need the fudge, thank you. Too many sprinkles! Thank you for your time!
[–]MisterWharf 7 points8 points9 points 1 day ago
I scream, you scream, we all scream for ICE CREAM MAN, SON OF WILCOX.
[–]DaTr0LL 9 points10 points11 points 1 day ago
"Hither came Wilcoxson, the Ice Cream Man, gray-haired, sullen-eyed, scoop in hand, a dairyman, a churner, a glacier, with gigantic melonballers and gigantic waffle cones, to drive the ice cream trucks of the Earth with his sandaled feet.” - Robert E. Howard, The Complete Chronicles of Wilcoxson
[–]Astroboy668 2 points3 points4 points 1 day ago
There is an actual Ice Cream company named Wilcox located in Vermont. Its pretty damn good too.
[–]lebronfan 17 points18 points19 points 1 day ago
I live in Montana and it's actually really good shit, but I believe Wilcoxson's is the family's name or something. They are like a manufacturer and distributor, there's no real store but the products are carried by all of the grocery stores.
[–]buckhenderson 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
someone who's not normal?
[–]teraflop 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
Wow, I think that's the stealthiest joke I've seen on Reddit in a long time. Kudos.
[–]Ulfhedin 10 points11 points12 points 1 day ago
WTF does this have to do with atheism???
[–]tonycomputerguy 50 points51 points52 points 1 day ago
My favorite part of every subreddit is how there is always someone who says "WTF does this have to do with..." without suggesting where it should have been posted. Obviously, this post is showing the ignorance of someone, most likely a Christian, who assumes that a Muslim is automatically from Pakistan, something an atheist should be able to enjoy, and might have missed if it had just been posted to /r/pics, or /r/MuslimWallpapers if people don't want something in the subreddit, it will be voted down. Obviously, getting 500up/100 down in 5 hours means those users are glad it was posted here. Also, WTF does your comment have to do with atheism?
[–]hithazel 15 points16 points17 points 1 day ago
Lol, muslimwallpapers is an actual subreddit.
[–]jt004c 17 points18 points19 points 1 day ago
Because religion is the catalyst of the man's racism.
[–]DiggSucksNow 9 points10 points11 points 1 day ago
I thought we were making fun of the guy who might have to stop eating his favorite ice cream because his arbitrary religious rules said so.
[–]mjolnir616 5 points6 points7 points 1 day ago
Insert whynotboth.jpg
[–]fknbastard 2 points3 points4 points 1 day ago
Also funny but less so because he was polite and got hosed by a dickhead
[–]MoshMuth 8 points9 points10 points 1 day ago
ice cream?
Were know lovers of frozen treats.
[–]dijitalia 12 points13 points14 points 1 day ago
We are no lovers of frozen treats. OR We're known lovers of frozen treats. FTFY?
[–]artfop 5 points6 points7 points 1 day ago
Third option where an old racist doesn't realize two things:
[–]Calikeane 4 points5 points6 points 1 day ago
No one seems to be mentioning the fact that the question was about Gelatin. Why did the company respond with an answer about delivery? The guy never asked a single thing about delivery or location. We are expected to believe this senile old man didn't even read the question, just clicked on this dude's pic and then answered whatever he wanted?
[–]lasercow 5 points6 points7 points 1 day ago
doesnt stop the old person who happens to be the president from being a fucking asshole
[–]Triassic_Bark 5 points6 points7 points 1 day ago
Who cares, I mean it's not like people can easily travel the globe, or could potentially have family in other countries, particularly America. Right?
[–]newvictim 4 points5 points6 points 1 day ago
yeah, that was not the answer to the question. he did not ask if he could get a delivery to Pakistan.
[–]Telionis 7 points8 points9 points 1 day ago
Hanlon's Razor is a good motto to live by.
[–]fknbastard 6 points7 points8 points 1 day ago
Disagree...there's also Toby Keith's Law...which states that a large percentage of stupid people are also full of malice towards any 'ferners...specially them muslims.
[–]Telionis 5 points6 points7 points 1 day ago
In my personal experience, stupidity is extremely common, and malice is surprisingly rare. I'm sure they're out there, but I've never met one of these truly malicious foreigner haters. But man have I met some fools (and surely have acted like one myself a few times).
I've met a few who disagree with gay marriage (for idiotic reasons), but even they didn't really [vitriolically] hate gays. While their reactionary attitude is harming gays, there is a huge gap between them and those who want to commit violence against random gays or who are honestly repulsed by the sight of two guys holding hands.
I think malice is surprisingly uncommon. It's just that when expressed it is so sensational that it is extremely visible.
I live in Reno. I love this town but it's got its share of dumb ass 'foreigner hating' rednecks and racists. Sometimes you think someone is decent and pretty cool and then they pop some comment off in conversation about 'niggers' or 'rag heads' or 'faggots' and you realize you have to completely reassess whether you want to talk to them ever again.
I come right out and tell people I'm offended and don't like that kind of shit and don't want to hear it. I'll get support from other people sometimes but not always.
[–]Fedcom 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
They didn't even try to apologize, the fucking dicks.
[–]sleckar 65 points66 points67 points 1 day ago
My ass. If that was the case, wouldn't the logical answer be "We don't have locations outside of the United States"? Why would the person talk about delivering to Pakistan when the poster didn't even ask about delivery?
[–]roque72 31 points32 points33 points 1 day ago
Reminds me of the time when Wilcoxson's was asked if they have watermelon flavored ice cream, and their response was "We don't serve ice cream to niggers!" Although, to be fair, it was way back in the 1990's.
[–]Oksbad 115 points116 points117 points 1 day ago
I don't buy the explanation. From the message it is clear that the man eats this brand of ice-cream regularly ("... love your ice cream ..."), so he is clearly somewhere where their ice cream is sold.
Besides, the comment comes off as rude even if you assume that the person who made the comment was in Pakistan.
[–]TUNGL 12 points13 points14 points 1 day ago
... and where exactly is the apology from the president? Or dont they deliver those either?
[–]BUBBA_BOY 26 points27 points28 points 1 day ago
who is self-admittedly not tech-savvy
Code for 50+ trying to hide a bigot streak.
[–]snarledas 19 points20 points21 points 1 day ago
It says right above where he commented that the dude was 'Near Sheridan, WY' definitely nowhere near Pakistan. This kind of stupidity is on a new level, how the fuck does someone like that become president of a company...
[–]hendridm 14 points15 points16 points 1 day ago
It's happened before. Chick-fil-A.
[–]honorface 6 points7 points8 points 23 hours ago
BABY BOOMERS.
[–]SpecialDefects_ 6 points7 points8 points 1 day ago
bullshit excuse from a fuckwit
[–]Bunnymancer 6 points7 points8 points 1 day ago
The right thing to do would be to find the guy, bring the president to apologize and give him ice cream. Not just post crap.
[–]IHateHumans 16 points17 points18 points 1 day ago
That is so much bullshit PR. What pin? I can clearly see it says Sheridan, WY, not Pakistan. It was a racist comment and I hope their business suffers because of it. Or better yet, the President gets pushed out and they get a new CEO, you know, one who isn't a racist.
[–]IMprollyWRONG 5 points6 points7 points 1 day ago
Repost. Also Judge Mental sounds like a badass.
[–]coprolite_hobbyist 13 points14 points15 points 1 day ago
I liked it better when I thought it was a poorly thought out joke. Now I just feel sorry for the doofus.
[–]squirtle787 3 points4 points5 points 1 day ago
Not buying it either... the response and the ice cream!!
[–]crazymicahman 4 points5 points6 points 1 day ago
He can run a company, yet can't read the words that say the guy posted that comment near Sheridan, WY?
Edit: And 3 other people have already said that.... :( lol
[–]agentup 16 points17 points18 points 1 day ago
After reading the story which was apparently well covered a few weeks ago , I've come to the conclusion that the CEO is an idiot, maybe not a racist idiot, but an idiot. He should have just answered the question. Even if the guy was in pakistan, why not answer the question? If he follows up with "can you send me ice cream" then you can say you don't deliver. Otherwise the fact that you can or can't deliver is moot.
[–]Desert_Pantropy 197 points198 points199 points 1 day ago
I like how the answer had nothing to do with the question.
Does it contain pork? . . . if so can you tell me what flavors. . .so I can avoid them? We don't deliver outside of Montana, certainly not Pakistan.
Does it contain pork? . . . if so can you tell me what flavors. . .so I can avoid them?
We don't deliver outside of Montana, certainly not Pakistan.
If it was a mistake, then why did he mention Pakistan? His location, or ethnicity has nothing to do with the question. The customer didn't ask "Can you deliver ice-cream to me?"
[–]CampBenCh 31 points32 points33 points 1 day ago
Apparently the commenter had a map of Pakistan as his cover photo. There's been newspaper articles on this.
[–]selectrix 36 points37 points38 points 1 day ago
Eh, even still he asked a direct question and got the indirect equivalent of "go away". Pretty rude.
Suppose he really did live in Pakistan, but had only recently moved there and was inquiring on behalf of family; or was just very devout, and concerned about some kind of penance he'd have to perform for breaking halal in the past (I honestly don't know if that's how it works.)
[–]IT_Derp 8 points9 points10 points 1 day ago
Maybe he was just visit and wanted to get more ice-cream. Do you have to be a Murikan to buy their Ice-Cream. Do they ask for a passport?
[–]Lonelobo 26 points27 points28 points 1 day ago
Does anyone really believe that a guy who can't use the internet can recognize the outline of Pakistan from the postage-stamp size photo that is your profile pic when you post on someone's wall?
[–]____MAGNITUDE____ 6 points7 points8 points 1 day ago
It was likely the big profile pic that displays when you hover over a persons name or thumbnail.
[–]cogitoergosam 49 points50 points51 points 1 day ago
Sounds like the guy asking the question is in the area, likes the ice cream and just wants to make sure it fits his personally-held diet. Dude running the business just assumed anyone muslim is from pakistan and flipped out.
Edit: Just saw reposted fb message below...sounds pretty shitty and rude even if the questioner's location was set to pakistan. Could have been visiting friends or family and wanted to inquire.
[–]xrg2020 6 points7 points8 points 1 day ago
It was actually a girl who asked this.
[–]KingofCraigland 5 points6 points7 points 1 day ago
Perhaps they couldn't understand him over his accent.
[–]ncshooter426 47 points48 points49 points 1 day ago
I'm pretty undecided on this one. We better call in Judge Mental for the final call.
[–]Dookiestain_LaFlair 38 points39 points40 points 1 day ago
All rise for the honorable Judge Mental
[–]partiedhard 29 points30 points31 points 1 day ago
What makes me angry is that is a simple question that any vegan or vegetarian would ask.
[–]acdarc 22 points23 points24 points 1 day ago
What makes me angry is that this is too common everywhere. It doesn't matter what or where you post anything in the form of a question, some douche will answer something along these lines:
Q: Where could I find good rims for my 165/15/65 tires for Seat?
A: Why would you want to drive a Seat?
Q: Where in London I could find a good place to get fish'n'chips?
A: Why would you want to eat fish'n'chips?
Q: Could somebody tell me where to find a good ballpoint pen for a gift
A: Who uses pens anymore?
I can't fecking believe how common this is, and it drives me mental. Judge Mental.
[–]teamchuckles 14 points15 points16 points 1 day ago
I totally agree. I once googled the question "how do I make eggs in the microwave?" and I found a Yahoo Answers question of someone asking the same thing, and the TOP VOTED COMMENT was "Why don't you just make it in a pan? It's easy to do..." and I wanted to jump into my monitor and yell and have a stern conversation with this person. Yes, I realize it's an easy thing to do, and I know how to make eggs in a pan, but isn't it possible I have a fucking reason why I'm searching for how to make eggs in a microwave?!
For the record, the reason was laziness.
[–]saltlets 0 points1 point2 points 23 hours ago
It would have to be a really fucking dumb vegan to ask if the ICE CREAM contains any animal products.
[–]TokyoXtreme 0 points1 point2 points 23 hours ago
Along with other such America-hating communists. Study it out, and do your homework.
[–]ChiggerLemon 295 points296 points297 points 1 day ago
This relates to atheism how?
[–]FancySkunk 154 points155 points156 points 1 day ago
Wait... this was on /r/atheism? Fuck, I thought this was /r/funny or maybe /r/pics
[–]LouisianaBob 53 points54 points55 points 1 day ago
I thought it was /r/wtf!
[–]UndeadMantis 42 points43 points44 points 1 day ago
I'm so confused. Where... where am I?
[–]osja 37 points38 points39 points 1 day ago
The Internet, sir, the Internet. Be careful out there.
[–]ChemicalRascal 4 points5 points6 points 1 day ago
UndeadMantis, whatever you do, don't suggest that random people live in Pakistan.
[–]lwalsh2013 6 points7 points8 points 1 day ago
Might as well have been. /r/funny is rarely funny and /r/pics is full of unimpressive pictures. Everything gets dumped into any random subreddit that might be relevant somehow.
[–]TehDoktar 10 points11 points12 points 1 day ago
Dude, calm down, take a break from reddit for a week or a month. When/if you come back, all your problems about inappropriate subreddits and unfunny /r/funny will have magically disappeared!
[–]RAGING__LONER 30 points31 points32 points 1 day ago
This comment is in every post on r/atheism?
[–]wildcarde815 7 points8 points9 points 1 day ago
Side effect of what people see as personally valuable on a community with 1.26 million subscribers.
[–]MisterWharf 31 points32 points33 points 1 day ago
Yeah, I thought r/atheism was all about gay rights issues and stuff.
[–]jt004c 19 points20 points21 points 1 day ago
Because it's 100% guaranteed that the guy's racism is rooted in his religious beliefs?
[–]TehDoktar 14 points15 points16 points 1 day ago
Are you being sarcastic?
[–]GaSSyStinkiez 5 points6 points7 points 1 day ago
The OP is more upset at the response of an implied Christian man (President of Ice Cream company who's religion has not been positively established) that is supposedly bigoted than the Muslim man (who is explicitly Muslim) who clings to a religion that makes ridiculous dietary restrictions.
So it fits in here quite well.
[–]TehDoktar 8 points9 points10 points 1 day ago
Why are you assuming he's christian? An atheist can and would make the same hurtful comment.
[–]valleyshrew 3 points4 points5 points 1 day ago
Well here I was thinking that insinuating someone was from Pakistan was not an offensive comment to make because there's nothing inherently wrong with being Pakistani, but what do I know? Silly racist me...
[–]henrylordwotton 59 points60 points61 points 1 day ago
come for the ice cream. . . stay for the racism!
[–]Aperfectmoment 4 points5 points6 points 1 day ago
Well even a soup nazi can sell soup if his soup is good enough
[–]BlissfulHeretic 52 points53 points54 points 1 day ago
Um, that was a perfectly legitimate question and this person wasn't hurting anybody. Some people choosing to abstain from pork products doesn't hurt anybody else. Silly? Yeah, but that's no reason to be a racist douchebag. Religion is the cause of much bigger problems than some guy in Wyoming wanting to eat halal ice cream.
[–]calliethedestroyer 12 points13 points14 points 1 day ago
Amen!
(Can I say that here lol?)
[–]caleen 13 points14 points15 points 1 day ago
Insulting someone's religion is not racism.
[–]turkeyfox 20 points21 points22 points 1 day ago
Saying all Muslims are Pakistani or vice versa kind of is though.
[–]klaymankombat 8 points9 points10 points 1 day ago
Assuming someone who is a muslim (and he may have had an arabic sounding name) is from pakistan is pretty racist.
[–]Hirosakamoto 6 points7 points8 points 1 day ago
I was not aware that muslim is a race
[–]hungry_hipaa 17 points18 points19 points 1 day ago
OK I'm Pakistani and a Muslim.. sorry I thought this was hilarious!! and while its probably not meant to be funny - come on they even said sorry with a remotely plausible explanation.. much ado about nothing I guess...
[–]does_not_play_nice 9 points10 points11 points 1 day ago
When is the riot scheduled?
[–]Vertyx 2 points3 points4 points 22 hours ago
Shh. We want to be upset, don't ruin this.
[–]shamananana 8 points9 points10 points 1 day ago
I like the part where the response didn't answer the question in the least and managed to piss off a lot of people. Is Romney running their Facebook page?
[–]MrSupo 3 points4 points5 points 1 day ago
SO JUDGE-MENTAL
[–]cultureambassador 3 points4 points5 points 1 day ago
[–]Koshesha 2 points3 points4 points 1 day ago
Oh Montana... Being from there I can certainly attest that Wilcoxson's ice cream is not that great.
[–]thedersy1 3 points4 points5 points 1 day ago
That last comment. Judge mental.... not judgemental, but judge mental. Sounds like a surreal court tv show with a wacky judge that hands out ridiculous sentences like, 10 years of having to be spanked once a day by an elderly nun. The funny part is he pardons all of the serial killers and rapists.
[–]GenConfusion 3 points4 points5 points 1 day ago
Sure it's a stupid comment on part of the company pres. but one stupid comment does not make a guy a racist. It's possible he was indeed tired and just felt like being a smart ass for some reason.
And honestly to me it seems like the guy was answering a completely different question. It didn't even look like he read the question. My point being, just because he brings up Pakistan doesn't mean he was trying to be racist. I'm Paki, I'm Muslim and my first reaction to that post is that it's not racist or inflammatory. My first reaction is WTF kind of response is that dude? People are just too quick to play the race card imo.
[–]RamenAvenger 3 points4 points5 points 1 day ago
Now that dude is going to go to hell for eating this ice cream. What a bummer
[–]theonefinn 2 points3 points4 points 1 day ago
I don't mean to defend the guy, but does no-one else think the original question sounds very confrontational? Shocked is a strong word, why would you be shocked? Gelatin is used in so many sweet things that I would assume it's present unless told otherwise or you're specifically buying kosher/halal. I'd read that and immediately go on the defensive as to me it reads as an implicit criticism.
[–]sheerheartattack 2 points3 points4 points 1 day ago
I mean, I think we can both agree that the response was blameworthy. However, I do agree that the original comment was unnecessarily accusatory, if only inadvertently. Though it would be remarkably unprofessional (as it was), I could see why someone might want to respond with a "Well fuck you too, buddy!"-type comment.
But I definitely received a sense of unwarranted entitlement - to suggest that an establishment ought to be expected to cater to his dietary niche - from the original comment. However, you just don't respond like that in business.
[–]spacecadet06 3 points4 points5 points 23 hours ago
Call me crazy for giving someone the benefit of the doubt but "We don't deliver outside of Montana, certainly not Pakistan" does not seem like an insult that was meant to cause deep offence to its recipient.
[–]ibanezerscrooge 2 points3 points4 points 18 hours ago
Yeah, that was pretty fucking rude. It was an honest question and the guy didn't even ask them something stupid like if they could make an ice cream without gelatin, simply if they had any flavors that did not use gelatin. Why does it matter where the guy was from? It's still a valid question.
[–]almondmilk 8 points9 points10 points 1 day ago
"Back in my day you didn't have to hide your racism. If a sand-nigger asked you about your ice cream, you told him to pack up and move back to whatever terrorist nation he came from." - Random quotes from the president found on the back label of every pint sold.
[–]danieldeboulay 6 points7 points8 points 1 day ago
TIL it's possible Ice Cream has pork in it...
[–]JupitersClock 5 points6 points7 points 1 day ago
Apparently you can post anything in this sub.
[–]CiD7707 5 points6 points7 points 1 day ago
Like many here I must ask "Why is this here?"
[–]LaunchThePolaris 3 points4 points5 points 1 day ago
Anyone buying the guys excuse? He's saying he was overworked and tired and said he thought there was an "icon" next to the person's name that identified them as being from Pakistan. Claims it was an honest mistake. I don't use facebook; are there icons that show what country you're from? Or did this person have anything on their page identifying them as being from Pakistan?
[–]evildead4075 5 points6 points7 points 1 day ago
i dont see what this has to do with religion at all...
[–]life_is_weird 7 points8 points9 points 1 day ago
Bullshit like this pisses me off, so what if the person is Muslim. Treat everyone with respect. I am a humanist, can't tolerate this shit when I come across it.
[–]opallix 10 points11 points12 points 1 day ago
What does this have to do with atheism? I literally cannot grasp why the hell this post is here.
[–]SlaughterMeister 9 points10 points11 points 23 hours ago
It doesn't really, but it seems a little refreshing to see people upvoting in response to a (minor) injustice done to a religious man. It underlines the point we make quite often: it isn't religion we tend to oppose per se, but intolerance and hate. Usually it's religion propagating those things, though. But here we are.
[–]Man-Created-God[S] 7 points8 points9 points 1 day ago
Here is a link to their page if anyone wants to check it out: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Wilcoxsons-Ice-Cream/119267879016?fref=ts
[–]mccartyvan 17 points18 points19 points 1 day ago
That's fucking funny. Everybody take a biiiiiiig step back and admire how fucking lolzy this is.
[–]4everbridesmaid 4 points5 points6 points 1 day ago
Our next drone won't be dropping icecream.
[–]camelcolorentertain 4 points5 points6 points 1 day ago
I see nothing wrong with this.
[–]sc0ttt 6 points7 points8 points 1 day ago
I don't think I've ever seen a source animal listed on gelatin, so I don't think this owner really could answer the question even if he wanted to. Most he could say is that it is an animal product. There are halal and kosher gelatins that may be available to him though if he wants to serve that market.
There are also vegetarian gelatins that aren't really gelatin but serve the same purpose in cooking.
I'm not sure I'd call it "pork" even if a particular brand or style of gelatin was entirely porcine in source... although a Muslim may certainly object to porcine gelatin.
[–]HabibJihad 7 points8 points9 points 1 day ago
Kolatin is kosher/halal gelatin which contains no porcine. If the gelatin doesn't state it is kosher/halal it isn't.
[–]TheMattMobile 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
Haha the last guy "judge mental"what the hell judgmental people these days
[–]mukman12 2 points3 points4 points 1 day ago
Facebook grammar is so bad. Ughh.
[–]Smeagol3000 2 points3 points4 points 1 day ago
He said in his comment that he loved their ice cream. Why ask if it has pork if you've already eaten it, you're already going to hell anyway.
[–]belizeanheat 2 points3 points4 points 21 hours ago
My favorite part is how not one of the three can string together a written fucking sentence.
[–]nodogma2112 2 points3 points4 points 20 hours ago
I agree that the response was rude and not really called for, but what seems to be bothering me more is the person who said "judge mental" it's mind bottling that this type of illiteracy is so common. ;)
[–]Nextphaze 0 points1 point2 points 19 hours ago
Apparently being a "social media beginner" is now a valid excuse for being rude and ignorant.
[–]xmas_one 2 points3 points4 points 19 hours ago
All rise! The honorable Judge Mental presiding.
[–]Dfunkhizzle 0 points1 point2 points 17 hours ago
"...and definitely won't recommend it." I love when people are still rational in the face of ignorance.
[–]defleppardsucks 2 points3 points4 points 17 hours ago
also....wtf, why is this on r/atheism? shouldn't is be on r/muslim? or r/porkgelatin?
[–]Iainfixie 2 points3 points4 points 15 hours ago
I got banned for calling out one of their loyal supporters for saying:
"have fun eating that crap ice cream those two gay dudes serve you on the East coast."
and asking him what was wrong with gay people.
[–]ToasterHuman 2 points3 points4 points 14 hours ago
He didn't even bother anyone, he just politely asked which flavors he should avoid, and they acted like total cunts! WTF?
[–]SippyCup090 6 points7 points8 points 1 day ago
I don't think the response was rude or racist. I think it was suppose to just be comedic. like "lol we don't even deliver outside of our state let alone the other side of the world"
[–]TestECull 6 points7 points8 points 1 day ago
Taking five seconds to read his location would have saved that outfit a huge PR failure. Derp.
[–]rahtin 7 points8 points9 points 1 day ago
And it still would have been the same response, except for replacing Pakistan with Wyoming.
[–]TestECull 5 points6 points7 points 1 day ago
And yet way less offensive. The whole problem isn't that they don't deliver to the guy, it's that they saw a muslim asking if their product contains pork and assumined "Lol pakistan." Had they looked at his location that assumption wouldn't have been made.
Sure it would have made no sense, but it wouldn't have been offensive either.
[–]ColbyTheDog 4 points5 points6 points 1 day ago
Why Are You Capitalizing Everything In The Title?
[–]CatKicker69 3 points4 points5 points 1 day ago
Am the only one who wants the play the "repost" card right now?
[–]cmilla 3 points4 points5 points 1 day ago
Oh look something to do with religion in the content. Better put it in /r/atheism!
FFS this needs to stop. The subreddit is already a circlejerk that has lost it's way. It's so lost it's posting content of religious people being nice and reasonable people. Even if everyone on the subreddit was intelligent and sensitive, that's basically the opposite of the point you are trying to make. It's like some guys having a KKK meeting in a park late at night giving thanks to the black family who volunteered their time to clean up the place.
[–]broverflow 3 points4 points5 points 23 hours ago
Repost of a repost of a repost to the power of 10.
[–]Patches67 3 points4 points5 points 18 hours ago
Now THIS has nothing to do with atheism. This is about a Muslim who spoke to someone we have no idea what their belief system could be who's happens to be a butthead.
[–]maxy55555 4 points5 points6 points 1 day ago
This seems to be everyone blowing up over nothing. Eh, whatever. Not much to expect from people on the internet.
[–]iamnotemilydickinson 3 points4 points5 points 1 day ago
They apologized and said it was a mistake because the company president saw a pin on the Pakistan map of the man's FB page. "We are extremely sorry for the misunderstanding and hurt we caused. We are asking your forgiveness and another chance to wow you with our ice cream."
[–]TigerWylde 8 points9 points10 points 1 day ago
seems legit.....
[–]xrg2020 3 points4 points5 points 1 day ago
Wrong! It clearly says Wyoming right after the comment. And the guy didn't ask for delivery. The guy asked for what ice creams to avoid.
Bad PR...
[–]AhhhClem 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
I think religions people are delusional but will help them find food that meets their dietary restrictions the same as I would a vegan or even a nutty Atkins follower. Here there is only one place I know of that has halal meat and recently there were some out of town observant Muslims and I directed them to it. The wife even wore the vail and peekaboo head thing which none of the local Muslims do. The little girl had one too and it was like the pictures of a Galactic Empire Stormtrooper and the kid in the same mini armor.
[–]v1kingfan 1 point2 points3 points 22 hours ago
What the fuck, no wonder other countries think we are stupid.
[–]CaliGolden_bear 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
We've gotta be so sensitive these days
[–]CthulhusPubes 4 points5 points6 points 1 day ago
Why the fuck is this stupid shit in /r/Atheism? There was nothing suggesting the Ice Cream Store represents ANY religion. They could be atheist for all we know, and the way they treated the Muslim guy fits the bill of both atheists and Christians.
[–]Fookananer 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
I hate Pakistan.
[–]Samccx19 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
That's not being an atheist, that's being a cunt. When will we realise that this is NOT ok.
[–]bbuttar 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
Shocking comment from a Business nonetheless , and more shocking is 2 people liked the ice-cream company's comment !!
[–]tuhan 2 points3 points4 points 1 day ago
Lol, actually this is pretty funny.
[–]DuggleAss 2 points3 points4 points 1 day ago
Relevant
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2209655/Wilcoxsons-Ice-Cream-Company-accused-racism-Pakistan-comment-Muslim-customer.html
[–]ethanwane 2 points3 points4 points 1 day ago
hahahahah i find this hilarious
[–]tsintse 2 points3 points4 points 1 day ago
Clearly the man's typing style was from Afghanistan, not Pakistan. I'd be offended as well.
[–]BigBOSSAlak 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/63/Stan_Smith.png/250px-Stan_Smith.png Who I imagine answered that question.
all it takes is a username and password
create account
is it really that easy? only one way to find out...
already have an account and just want to login?
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