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Cat's don't have pretty stripes...do they? (i.imgur.com)

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[–]Odys 37 points38 points ago

Can't argue with that... They got us there... Damn...

[–]meantamrajean 38 points39 points ago

Agreed. Time to convert. So much logic.

[–]JesusChristophe 1 point2 points ago

Testable, verifiable, repeatable proof of Yahweh's omniscient presence over us all achieved. See ya guys, I've god some catchup priest blowing to do apparently. How many BJ's is an indulgence nowadays - and can I still proxy in a prostitute or must it be my own lips?

[–]DancePartyRobot 52 points53 points ago

This is an example of how to win an argument by saying something so incredibly stupid that your opponent is left dumbfounded and unable to respond.

Because when your opponent doesn't respond, that means you're right.

[–]creepyfinger 6 points7 points ago

Unable to respond?

  • Mottram 1915 - Some observations on pattern-blending with reference to obliterative shading and concealment of outline

  • Godfrey et al. 1987 - Zebra stripes and tiger stripes—the spatial frequency distribution of the pattern compared to that of the background is significant in display and crypsis

  • Hoese et al. 2006 - Distinctive yellow bands on a sit-and-wait predator: prey attractant or camouflage?

  • And many more. If you're curious, and have access to the literature, just follow the trail of citation breadcrumbs.

Incidentally, if you're curious as to how the kitty adopted its striped coat (as opposed to the functional question why), you may want to look into Alan Turing's theory regarding morphogenesis, which has recently been validated experimentally (Howard et al. 2011 - Turing's Next Steps - The mechanochemical basis of morphogenesis).

You should never disregard comments like this. The question is never stupid, but rather how we choose to inform ourselves on the matter that can thus be categorized.

EDIT: I should point out that the above has little to do with domestic cats. Those stripes come about through an entirely different process of intense selective breeding, which, if anything, is much easier to understand and explain.

[–]starve2act 0 points1 point ago

Er... I think you mean that domestic cat stripes come about through MaGiC! Baby Jesus mAgIc.

[–]DancePartyRobot 0 points1 point ago

That would make for some fascinating conversation, you sound like someone I could listen to for hours as you expound about cats.

However, if you presented that argument to the person who made the posted statement, you would get as far as "Mottram 1915 - Some observations on pattern-blending with reference to oblit...." before they completely tuned you out and heard nothing but "Science! Big words! Technical terms! Tools of the devil!"

So I guess I really meant unable to respond in a manner that is actually productive, because your audience is ignorant and proud of it. When you say "theory regarding morphogenesis," you might as well be saying "I love to suck Satan's cock." Maybe I'm overly cynical, but I generally dismiss those people as lost causes, and try to look at them from more of a psychological perspective (it dampens the frustration and outright anger).

Cool stuff about cats though. My kitty is white with a hood and splotches on his back. It's really neat because the hood and splotches have stripes, like someone spilled striped paint on him.

[–]iheartbakon 7 points8 points ago

It works for Wendy Wright.

[–]RedTheDraken 17 points18 points ago

Dear fuck, I could only watch the first part for 5 minutes. Any longer and I'm sure I would have stormed out of the house with a map to her organization and a rusty kitchen knife in hand, foaming at the mouth.

[–]Hansarn 9 points10 points ago

Rusty? You must really want her to suffer. Now I'm afraid to click the link.

[–]TheCarbonthief 2 points3 points ago

I'm getting dizzy from the camera flipping around all the fucking place. Jesus man hold the goddamned camera still. Also Wendy making lose faith in humanity, and I'm only to minute 3.

[–]selpathor 1 point2 points ago

Well with those holes in his hands it's kind of hard for Jesus to hold the camera steady.

[–]DancePartyRobot 2 points3 points ago

He died for our cinema

[–]Zarokima 1 point2 points ago

She keeps this pleasant smile and tone that just gets more and more grating. And that laugh will haunt my nightmares tonight.

Do not click. I am posting this sex hours after you, so I might be too late, but for the love of rationality, DO NOT CLICK!

[–]Hansarn 0 points1 point ago

Phew. Dodged that bullet, I had to sleep. Thank you for the warning, and get mentally well soon.

[–]WanderingSpaceHopper 1 point2 points ago

sex hours

kinky

[–]wayndom 4 points5 points ago

Exactly. I had to stop as soon as she started talking about the evidence that evolution is wrong.

I must say, I have increased respect for Dawkins, seeing as how he somehow resisted the natural urge to punch her lights out...

[–]Vallkyrie 5 points6 points ago

Dawkins has the world's greatest pokerface

[–]Hypersapien 0 points1 point ago

5 minutes? You're a stronger person than I.

[–]Chief-Drinking-Bear 2 points3 points ago

This dumb woman has so much confirmation bias in everything she mentions.

[–]DancePartyRobot 0 points1 point ago

Ugh. I used to watch those kinds of interviews to laugh at the stupid people being stupid, but after I'd seen enough of them they started making my eyes throb. It's like the joke finally wore off on me and I realized that it wasn't a joke at all.

[–]pinkytheunicorn 0 points1 point ago

That bitch looks like Odo.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/00/Odo.jpg

[–]Moonstrife 4 points5 points ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_B8joWR8BY

[–]TheMysteriousMuffin 3 points4 points ago

The Gish Gallop

[–]Jagyr 6 points7 points ago

The Gish Gallop is where you spout off so many (usually flawed) arguments and points in such a short span of time that your opponent has no hope of responding to all of them, and you claim victory on the points that go unaddressed.

[–]Nisas 3 points4 points ago

I refer to this technique as "starting 10 fires in 10 minutes". I believe I first heard it described this way by Sam Harris in a video of a conversation between him, Dawkins, Dennett, and Hitchens.

The image is more provocative to me. Fires are easy to start but hard to put out. You start a bunch of fires in the first time period then laugh as your opponent fails to stomp them all out in time.

William Lain Craig does this all the time. He always goes first in the debates because he's arguing in the affirmative. He has a list of like 10 arguments for god, all of them pretty terrible, some of them gratuitously so. He spouts off his list in the first time period then the second time period he spends berating his opponent for not addressing every one of the arguments.

[–]DancePartyRobot 0 points1 point ago

It's a shame he never had a debate with George Carlin.

Carlin would have stamped out the first fire before the second was even lit, then grabbed the matches from him and punched him in the face.

[–]abaddon1125 0 points1 point ago

It takes a lot of talent to turn the Argument from Absurdity into a viable debate tactic.

[–]EscherTheLizard 0 points1 point ago

It worked for Romney...

[–]raythorston 0 points1 point ago

Word.

[–]Iamgoingtooffendyou 0 points1 point ago

Still had sex.

[–]WoollyMittens 11 points12 points ago

I should not have read the non-marked bits. I ended up biting a chunk out of my desk.

[–]FidgeAnit 10 points11 points ago

Thanks! I went back and read the non-marked bits. Why? Why did I do that? <sob>

[–]Cheezy_Blazterz 8 points9 points ago

Evolutionary conditioning. We've grown to associate cats with pretty stripes with deliciousness.

[–]alittler 5 points6 points ago

That's why babies are so cute, so we can better sort the ones we want to eat.

[–]TheMysteriousMuffin 4 points5 points ago

I wonder what would happen if I said "and if Christianity were real, then God wouldn't let so many terrible things happen." Watch them rage, watch them all rage!

[–]LeepySham 2 points3 points ago

I think the pretty stripes on cats thing is a FAR better argument than the pain and death thing.

[–]TheMysteriousMuffin 0 points1 point ago

Well, you do have a VERY, VERY strong point there.....I abandon my argument

[–]TheNerdWithNoName 0 points1 point ago

Dude, he works in mysterious ways. Duh!

[–]tsingi 7 points8 points ago

If atheism were true, then, um...

That makes no sense.

[–]Akira_kj 3 points4 points ago

Lack of god works in mysterious ways.

[–]LouIchthys 4 points5 points ago

Cat's what?

[–]Akira_kj 4 points5 points ago

Cat's who?

[–]mark4669 6 points7 points ago

gesundheit

[–]Akira_kj 1 point2 points ago

Wonderbar

[–]JaredsFatPants 3 points4 points ago

"it is considered scientifically impossible for nothing to create anything..."
I'm not a physicist, so I can't argue this statement from a scientific point of view, but I find it interesting how they use "science" in support of there beliefs only when it agrees with said beliefs. You can't just pick and choose which "science" you agree with. I'm willing to bet this guy also thinks the world is 5000 years old. What happened to your "belief" in science buddy?

[–]Akira_kj 0 points1 point ago

Yah but he is kirk cameron and that goes along way... for a few short years

[–]0xD153A53 0 points1 point ago

From nearly every conversation I've ever had with anyone who believes in Sky Daddy, yes...yes they can just pick and choose.

Furthermore, picking and choosing only the bits that support one's argument is logically acceptable when one's logical framework allows the abandonment of all logic.

[–]Nisas 0 points1 point ago

Where did anyone get this idea that nothing can't create anything? Was there some nothing around that we observed and deduced that nothing came from it? I mean if there was even ever a nothing it would have had to be before the big bang. But then I've been told that time came into existence at the big bang. So how can we have a point prior to the big bang if time didn't exist until the big bang? And if the nothing is taking place at a point in time, isn't it then something because there is time?

And while we're on it, how come everyone just blindly accepts that something ever comes from something? I've never once seen something come from something. I've only seen something smash into other somethings that already exist and form that something into something I call something else. But that's not something coming from something. That's just something moving around.

I'd go so far as to say that if there ever was a nothing, then therefore something can come from nothing because there is presently something. However, they wish to say that something always existed. At which point I'm equally justified in specifying my own form for that something. For example, "everything."

[–]markycapone 0 points1 point ago

Laurence Krauss disagrees

[–]LeepySham 0 points1 point ago

No. They can pick and choose which logical fallacies apply to them.

[–]DancePartyRobot 0 points1 point ago

When they start using pseudo-science, it just illustrates their own lack of faith. They're trying explain something that they're supposed to accept without explanation.

[–]SiberianDante -1 points0 points ago

Yes, cherry picking is one of their common fallacies.

In an argument I had with a creationist girl she said she could "believe" what the scientists said about homosexuality being related to brain mapping (so it's not their fault) but that she could disbelieve in what they say on evolution.

And by the way, I saw an article that said 2 powerful lasers pointed at each other eventually created mass. It's not "something from nothing" but it broke the "matter cannot be created or destroyed" rule or whatever.

[–]LevelUpLeo 2 points3 points ago

That is the type of statement that makes me laugh out loud and I can't even start to explain why it is just simply wrong.

[–]Akira_kj 0 points1 point ago

Selective breeding and a few thousand years isn't hard to understand but nature doing it on its own for hundreds of millions of years is.... if you have more bible than brains in your logic.

[–]pkonrad 0 points1 point ago

Or even better, the physical appearance of felines has nothing to do with a belief in god.

[–]Akira_kj 0 points1 point ago

What god?

[–]pkonrad 0 points1 point ago

I should have said "has nothing to do with rejecting the claim of the existence of god(s).

[–]hoppychris 2 points3 points ago

Wow, it makes sense, but I never realized Margaret Sanger ranked up there with Hitler and Columbine.

[–]meleeman09 2 points3 points ago

Furthermore I didn't realize columbine ranked up there with the holocaust. A classroom of innocent students versus millions of innocent Jews...hmmm

[–]DJWLJR 2 points3 points ago

I am sure that stripes and related colorings on cats (or other animals) have absolutely nothing to do with evolution and you know, camouflage. It definitely was just God making pretty stripes for us to enjoy. Yep. For sure.

[–]PerduraboCK 2 points3 points ago

tigers have stripes, and tigers are cats. therefore god. but no really, isn't it funny that it says beauty cannot be natural but says nothing about repulsive ugliness... which supposedly would have to come from the same god. actually reminds me of this TED talk.. http://www.ted.com/talks/denis_dutton_a_darwinian_theory_of_beauty.html

[–]naacal1 1 point2 points ago

Well I stopped believing in religion which made me an atheist, now after reading this I don't even know what I am, my life is vain...

[–]ololcopter 1 point2 points ago

lol I love the logic, it's like saying "If atheism is true, then why do chimps hurl shit at one another?" And I see one of the disciples, doubting Thomas, and his mind is instantly blown and he's got the Xzibit expression on like "Dammmn, Jesus, dats why u smart n I'm stooopid."

[–]BakerBitch 0 points1 point ago

The addition of exclamation points makes it very exciting! (!!!)

[–]SnakeMan448 0 points1 point ago

Because you have the mentality of a three-year-old.

[–]rileynumberone 1 point2 points ago

If you read down it asks "why do we feel guilty if we sin?". Now in my head i have a brain that generates thoughts and morals. What is in a religous persons head?

[–]Roslov 2 points3 points ago

Furthermore, many things which are considered 'sins' don't make the average person feel guilty at all. Many of us, including believers, have moved past the traditional mentality of "It's wrong because God says so!" to "Why exactly is this wrong? Seems OK to me."

Pre-marital sex, masturbation and lustful thoughts, for some easy examples.

[–]kent_eh 1 point2 points ago

If you read down it asks "why do we feel guilty if we sin?"

Answer: because we they have been trained that way.

Of course, first the religious had to invented the term "sin"

[–]DancePartyRobot 0 points1 point ago

They have the same thing, they just think it's information being beamed to them from their god.

Or a cricket. Sometimes it's a cricket.

[–]maeon3 1 point2 points ago

"but you don't really believe that do you?"

This is a statement used in houses of brainwashing to get people to not accept something. It works surprisingly well on people who have no ability to reason whatsoever.

[–]DancePartyRobot 0 points1 point ago

If you can't explain your reasoning, pretend like the reasoning is so obvious that you shouldn't NEED to explain it.

[–]supermonkey1313 1 point2 points ago

My cat has stripes, but they're not pretty. They're just there.

[–]Akira_kj 1 point2 points ago

Soak it in paint and roll it around on time lace to spiff it up alittle.

[–]supermonkey1313 0 points1 point ago

But he's sleeping! He'll scratch my eyes out if I wake him up!

[–]Akira_kj 0 points1 point ago

Get a less scratchy cat and tape or glue it to the other thereby reducing your chance if getting scratched by half.

[–]kent_eh 1 point2 points ago

I'm a bit scared to ask, but who is the perpetrator of this piece of wisdom?

It looks like a pamphlet of some kind?

[–]ThatCrazyViking 1 point2 points ago

Pack it up everyone. They got us. Time to turn in our badges and start thumping bibles.

[–]0xD153A53 1 point2 points ago

Self-serving link, but here's the Atheist Bible

[–]does_not_play_nice 0 points1 point ago

The children should be removed from those parents for child abuse.

Oh wait indoctrinating children into a backwards bigoted hateful delusional cult is ok if enough parents do it.

[–]startrekboy1138 1 point2 points ago

=ಠ.ಠ=

[–]rareas 0 points1 point ago

Crazy cat lady branches out into pamphleteering. She needed a second hobby.

[–]dark_elixir 0 points1 point ago

Is the Hitler/Stalin/etc. argument the best thing that theists can use to attempt to shed negative light towards atheism? It seems like it's the #1 argument used.

[–]DancePartyRobot 1 point2 points ago

It pretty much is the best, if your agenda is to convince lots and lots of ignorant people who are waiting for you to explain things to them. They soak this shit up like sponges.

It's like TV commercials. The "best" commercials are not the ones that give people the most honest representation of their product, they're the ones that make the most people buy that product.

[–]evolsteve 0 points1 point ago

Wait a minute... zebras DO have stripes, there must be a god...

[–]WhoMouse 0 points1 point ago

Doesn't work with my two all-gray cats. Possibly with my gray calico...but only on the orange spot on her tail has stripes. Of the only other two cats I've ever owned (read: been owned by) have been a black calico with no stripes and a very fuzzy black and white one with no stripes.

So, according to that...logic?...I'm justified in being an atheist, right?

[–]ruddias 1 point2 points ago

"Why does man feel guilty when he sins?"

I'm not an anthropologist, but I'm pretty sure its an evolutionary survival trait. If we do wrong against our species we ultimately harm the existence of our species, which isn't good. Same reason why eating and sex feel good. We need to feel these things so we do or don't do things for our species.

[–]Replekia 1 point2 points ago

But... TIGERS! They have stripes and sell us sugary cereal!

[–]randomjname 0 points1 point ago

damn. checkmate.

[–]Hechav 0 points1 point ago

Fucking... Camouflage.

[–]bibelotheque 0 points1 point ago

MINE DOES

[–]creedster91 0 points1 point ago

This is a repost from a couple of weeks ago.

[–]RobinKennedy23 0 points1 point ago

tigers have pretty stripes therefore god

[–]Vacster 0 points1 point ago

Wow, you are missing the important part, read the bottom: "... It is considered scientifically impossible for nothing to create anything, much less, for nothing to create everything!" This thing is so fucking ironic that I am willing to bet that an atheist wrote this to leave the religious people looking even more idiotic than most of them already are. If a religious person actually wrote this, then I fear for humanity...

[–]wayndom 0 points1 point ago

Cats (plural) doesn't have an apostrophe. Sheesh...

[–]Lye-NS 0 points1 point ago

tigers maybe? there a kind of cat right? this is the only explanation of a pretty silly statement i can think of.

[–]intentListener 0 points1 point ago

Shit, guess I'm Zoroastrian now.

[–]shittakemushrooms 0 points1 point ago

lol did they really put Margaret Sanger on the same level as Hitler and Columbine? Mind. Blown.

[–]BTMaverick707 0 points1 point ago

If the bible were true... Then why do cats have pretty stripes?

[–]melikeyshootey 0 points1 point ago

I say pull a Mass Effect and say "It is beyond your comprehension."

[–]thewoogier 0 points1 point ago

Tiggers: 1 Atheists: 0

[–]Captaincastle 0 points1 point ago

I just can't take anyone who calls them "kittys" seriously

[–]pinkytheunicorn 0 points1 point ago

Why does a man feel guilty when he sins?

Because some fucking people make me feel goddamn guilty about stupid shit. If I raised a child by punishing it every time he took a dump, he'd never be able to do so without feeling guilty, despite it being a natural and absolutely necessary bodily function.

In short, unless it breaches some major implied consent of not harming others, fuck right off.

[–]Warehouse42 0 points1 point ago

I'd be more concerned about the beautiful insects...insects are fucking ugly bird food

[–]behavedave 0 points1 point ago

If god exists then why do slugs eat grass? Why do cats vomit such large hairballs? Why do some fat people wear Spandex? On top of this if it is impossible for nothing to create anything and god created everything then what created God?

[–]DancePartyRobot 0 points1 point ago

It's turtles all the way down

[–]undderhaifisch 0 points1 point ago

Sometimes I'm just so amazed by the "startling beauty" of bugs.

[–]inajeep 0 points1 point ago

Do we have a source of this irrfutable shitty reasoning? It looks like a pamphlet handed out by a street corner preacher.

[–]WolfySnackrib 0 points1 point ago

Mmh. Pretty stripes. By golly, this is the missing evidence to disprove Evolution, and hey gravity too! Time to change the big book of science to say evolution and gravity has been proven false. God created pretty stripes on cats, not evolution, and he also blessed the stripes to run vertically and not horizontally, so that they will connect cats with the earth and not float away out into space.

[–]Fausto1981 0 points1 point ago

Non sequitur at its finest.

[–]shiniren 0 points1 point ago

"Why does man feel guilty when he sins?" Feeling guilty, according to the bible, is a sin in itself.

[–]agnox 0 points1 point ago

i wonder if people are actually dumb or evil

[–]titties_be_milky 1 point2 points ago

the number one thing that pisses me off is when christians say something can't come from nothing. well then where did you god come from? checkmate faggot

[–]curt93 0 points1 point ago

why does man feel guilt when he sins

OH GEE, I DON'T KNOW.

[–]rubberbunnies 0 points1 point ago

Every time I see crap like this I feel horrible for the wasted trees (or waste of recycling efforts) to print this. Even a greeting card or toilet paper is of more use :(

Oh and I'll have a 55a with a small order of number 4. Thanks.

[–]cyrusm 0 points1 point ago

hah. why does man feel guilty when he sins? because you don't need a god telling you your an asshole to feel like an asshole for being a giant asshole?

[–]MachShot 0 points1 point ago

The part after the highlight was the real gold though.

Using science to refute science.

[–]Akira_kj 0 points1 point ago

Science. It gets shit done.

[–]mungis -1 points0 points ago

"It is considered scientifically impossible for nothing to create everything"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ImvlS8PLIo

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