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Someone figured-out my password.. (imgur.com)

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[–]Divernon 39 points40 points ago

They told me not to use my pet's name as a password. So I changed my dog's name to: "$1abR&3Cpo"

[–]dcueva 16 points17 points ago

So it's a mix between a Labrador and C3PO?

[–]Osiris32 10 points11 points ago

The dog-bot, B4-RK.

[–]Divernon 0 points1 point ago

D'oh! Gotta change it again!

[–]Hr0n 26 points27 points ago

I wasn't aware "figured-out" was one word...

[–]FiveSmash 17 points18 points ago

Me neither, I just found-out!

[–]dmsean 4 points5 points ago

That's pretty-cool guys!

[–]IAMA_Ghost_Boo 2 points3 points ago

Fuck-this-thread!

[–]chrono1465 25 points26 points ago

Relevant.

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/180j0ro05k8uhjpg/original.jpg

[–]TinglyThing 8 points9 points ago

I helped my neighbor install a new printer (appparently, Plug & Play was too hard for her to figure out). Her password on her PC was her address, which she was dumb enough to tell me was also the code to unlock her garage door. She said she didn't want any numbers that she couldn't remember. Makes me wonder how she'll pick a baby name if she ever has a kid.

[–]dmsean 3 points4 points ago

baby1, baby2, baby3, etc. It's like how I name my servers.

[–]archpope 5 points6 points ago

I'm not worried. My dog's name is Z3#6GehYb356*66!.

[–]jakuu 0 points1 point ago

He isn't lying I just logged in as him!

[–]aggrazel 3 points4 points ago

By the way, off the shelf GPUs are cracking NTLM hashes at a rate of around 5 billion per second for about $300. At that rate, even your "secure" 9 char password isn't worth much, especially with cracking programs smart enough to do "leet speak" dictionaries and other tricky word based attacks.

14 character passwords of random chars are whats recommended (or, I dunno, two factor). But I think the future is not so bleak, we'll be switching to stronger hash algorithms that are much harder for GPUs to just blast through like that.

But for now, yeah, use a stronger password than "fluffy"

[–]odigo2020 0 points1 point ago

So, fluffy2, gotcha!

[–]TrueMilli 0 points1 point ago

They need the hashes for that tho.

Also: Microsoft no longer recommends NTLM in applications. But I have no clue if Kerberos has similar problems, since I just plugged that from Wikipedia.

[–]somnolent49 0 points1 point ago

I always tell people to use a 16 character randomized string, and simply write it down on a postit note somewhere.

[–]MyRealNameIsTwitch 0 points1 point ago

put the postit note in your wallet, so you always have it with you, and when you don't, you're fucked anyways!

[–]lisabadcat 6 points7 points ago

This is essentially my argument against biometric security. When your retina scan or fingerprints are compromised, how do you change them?

[–]dcueva 3 points4 points ago

Very painfully?

[–]Poobslag 2 points3 points ago

i think minority report had the answer to that, something about a shady black market for moldy sandwiches

[–]lisabadcat 3 points4 points ago

Oh snap, count me in then!

[–]Megasphaera 1 point2 points ago

For the retina scan I use my chihuahua's eyes

[–]nofear1056 0 points1 point ago

I will assume he/she has been trained to kill anyone that picks him/her up that isn't you

[–]safaridiscoclub -1 points0 points ago

Tottenham Hotspur (English soccer team) manager was embroiled in a row over taxes which went to the courts and it was found that his secret Monaco account was called Rosie47. His dog's name was Rosie and he was born in 1947. Never too rich to be stupid.

[–]mycatiskai 0 points1 point ago

I better stop using my cats name as a password.

[–]Cyberslasher 1 point2 points ago

Sounds like bullshit. Here is the counter-XKCD.

[–]watho 11 points12 points ago

No, that is not a counter-point. Most dog names are very easy to brute-force is what the poster is saying and the comic is giving instructions on how to make a password that's hard t brute-force.

[–]CertifiedEvil 6 points7 points ago

If anything, this is agreeing with the poster. What the comic is saying is that a short password full of numbers and symbols, while hard to remember, is not necessarily hard for a computer to guess. Pet names are short and relatively easy to crack. A longer password, such as "nowIhavetorenamemydog" would take much longer for a computer to guess while still being easy to remember.

[–]somnolent49 0 points1 point ago

People who crack passwords have hundreds of millions of known passwords which they use to optimize their guessing. If this caught on to any significant degree, it would be trivially easy to change password cracking software to easily figure it out.

[–]Wrislupa 0 points1 point ago

The xkcd technique is probably fine for people with a small number of passwords. I don't know how this compares to the average, but my password manager currently has 82 entries in, so assuming I'm using a different password for each site (no amount of hashing on one site will protect you when you share the password with another site that saves it in plain text), that's 82 different word combinations to remember.

Horse battery... wait, or was it hamster buttery? Harold boomerang? Fuck.

tl;dr Use a password manager (LastPass, KeePass, etc) with a secure master password and let the computer take care of both creating and remembering secure passwords.

[–]SquirrelDragon 0 points1 point ago

Do you work at Netscout? I interned there last summer and winter.

[–]ahuReddit[S] 0 points1 point ago

Sorta ;-) But based in Delft, The Netherlands.

[–]SquirrelDragon 0 points1 point ago

Ahh, I worked for the HQ

[–]C_M_O_TDibbler 0 points1 point ago

so you make internets out of blue and white pottery?

[–]KonradCurze 1 point2 points ago

Anyone else wondering why "figured-out" has that hyphen there? Totally unnecessary.

[–]mads3012 -1 points0 points ago

On the other hand, if somebody guessed your strong password, it would kinda suck to name your puppy h9xxjlm87o6.

[–]urbn -1 points0 points ago

But what if My dogs name is Se9ddl1an?

[–]grink -1 points0 points ago

I'd love a copy of this for cyber security awareness!

[–]Favrus -1 points0 points ago

Lucky for me I have 2 dogs

[–]RobotMafia -1 points0 points ago

Can someone provide a high res / better version? I need to hang this in my office.

[–]flopus -1 points0 points ago

They brute forced my puppy! My poor popup addled doggy

[–]solzhen -1 points0 points ago

I'm going to name my dog "default admin."

[–]_Wolfos 1 point2 points ago

If you have a pedigree dog, it would be a pretty strong password. My lab's called "Liberty's Tiroler Girl".

[–]TheoQ99 -1 points0 points ago

Hackers systematically check every possible word to decipher passwords in no time.

Woah woah woah woah. That does not take "no time" in the slightest. Brute forcing passwords can take millenia for longer passwords. But something simple like 4 or 5 letters words can take relatively quickly (I have no idea how long actually)

[–]somnolent49 4 points5 points ago

Password crackers don't typically use brute force. Generally they have tens of thousands of hashes to work with, so it's far more effective to snatch up the low hanging fruit. A much smaller proportion of the overall pool will be subjected to a bruteforce attack after it's been passed through all of the other guessing algorithms, primarily to get more datapoints and further refine those algorithms.

[–]TrueMilli 0 points1 point ago

No. Even a 5 character password (only letters and numbers) takes 3 years to break at 10 tries per second. And no program let's you try out 10 passwords per second (especially not if login is server sided).

4 chars at that rate is about 20 days, so if the "hacker" got access to your hardware that is probably breakable. He's most probably not gonna try to anyways tho because he wouldn't expect anyone to have a 4 char password.

[–]redmetal64 -1 points0 points ago

at my old work place they make us change our passwords every month, about 3 sites at work. I just switch from password1 to password2 to password1. I'm not about to memorize 36 passwords a year just from work.

[–]cmd_iii -3 points-2 points ago

Who the hell names a dog "Password"????

[–]Bacon_Overload -2 points-1 points ago

Are people really that stupid as to use real words as their passwords ? It is funny to watch "computer experts" on CSI and similar "crack" passwords in 2 seconds flat just by studying someones desk. Idiots.

[–]FlyInMyEye 8 points9 points ago

There is this guy on twitter who retweets idiots who share photos of their bank cards. And there are a lot of them! So yes, there is a serious amount of dumb people out there.

[–]Bacon_Overload 1 point2 points ago

I wish people would do like this or similar, I use a simple phrase like below and change it:

stupid is that stupid does

7t00pid.ice.d4t.st00pid_d4ss

Try guessing that from viewing my desk or my posters.

[–]Poobslag 0 points1 point ago

How many different web sites do you use this same password on?? Or, if all the sites use a different variation of this password, how do you keep track of them all??

Secure password usage is a more complex problem than most people give credit for, and trivial solutions (like the one you've described here) all have their own security or implementation flaws...

[–]Slayer706 1 point2 points ago

I use KeePass for keeping track of my passwords, and it has 53 entries right now. Imagine having to remember 53 different secure phrases and their corresponding website...

[–]Poobslag 0 points1 point ago

smart solution!! i think the best solution involves some sort of third party tool like keepass, that's very wise.

[–]dmwit -1 points0 points ago

relevant xkcd

[–]DougyM 1 point2 points ago

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7174760.stm

Sometimes they even beg people to try and steal from them.

[–]isJohnny 0 points1 point ago

http://xkcd.com/936/

[–]Bacon_Overload -1 points0 points ago

and ? I use PGP whole disk encryption, you have 3 attempts, then you are fucked. Now what ?

[–]isJohnny 5 points6 points ago

woah man I didn't want any trouble.

[–]Intrexa 4 points5 points ago

I think it's more like they have 3 attempts then you're fucked.

[–]ave0000 2 points3 points ago

So you're saying all i have to do is walk up to your computer at the password prompt, hit enter three times, and you lose all of your files?

[–]Bacon_Overload 0 points1 point ago

No. I obviously have a secret stash of backups on 10 million floppy disks. Duh.

[–]dont_press_ctrl-W 1 point2 points ago

First episode of Criminal Minds:

They're in some hacker genius's room in front of his computer. It has the most sophisticated password protection in the world that gives you only 6 chances before formatting everything.

Lead looks around the room, posters of the same band, one of their CDs is in the tray. "Enter the title of this album".

They get in, find everything they needed. Oh Lead character, you're so good at figuring out the criminal minds.

[–]Bacon_Overload 1 point2 points ago

Yes, so beyond st00pid.

[–]javibarron -1 points0 points ago

Everyone who upvoted this went back and changed all their passwords to not include their dogs name haha

[–]blazerlol -2 points-1 points ago

you guys are aware that this doesn't actually make your password more secure or any of that shit. if a hacker wants it, he'll get it. but this is just so some dumbass person you know, who knows your dumb pet, can't just guess your password.

[–]Ace1999 0 points1 point ago

That's why you can never go wrong with hunter-2.

[–]TrueMilli -2 points-1 points ago

Hackers systematically check every possible word

wat.jpg?

If that was the case no password would be safe ...

[–]Wrislupa 1 point2 points ago

No password is safe. The key is that a good password (with good password hashing and storage processes on the back end) would take so many thousands of years to break that anything its protecting is no longer of value.

[–]Bohica13 -3 points-2 points ago

I read this on the crapper. I literally shit my self!

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