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[–]MillenniumFalc0n[M] 315 points316 points ago

/u/Potato_in_My_Anus has verified the accuracy of this PM.

To clarify, this was about CreeperComforts being doxxed, not PIMA

[–]POTATO_IN_MY_ANUS 338 points339 points ago

No, no.

/u/CreeperComforts was the moderator who was doxed. Sorry, I should have made that clearer.

Violentacrez is a separate dox.

Edit: Just to clear up the confusion: VA was doxxed by Adrian Chen.

/u/CreeperComforts is a separate dox. He recieved the threatening PM this morning that you guys have all just read. SRS are trying to distance themselves from it right now, because they know that doxxing is against Reddit rules and can get their subreddit shutdown, but there have been numerous posts across different subreddits (even in places like /r/Toronto) made by SRS members about trying to uncover the true identity of the moderators.

CreeperComforts told me he in his last PM that he is going to see the police tonight about this threat and see what, if anything, can be done.

[–]MillenniumFalc0n 76 points77 points ago

Thanks, edited

[–]Ph0X 97 points98 points ago

I'm confused, is it confirmed that Violentacrez also deleted his stuff due to being doxxed?so both of these guys got doxxed by different people on roughly the same day? So much doxxing going on, so little admin intervention. What happened to Rule #3?

[–]reese_ridley 103 points104 points ago

Drunken_Economist said that Adrian Chen (the Gawker reporter) was behind the violentacrez doxxing and may have blackmailed him into deleting his account. It's unclear whether he's involved in the creepshots removal and what role SRS has played in this drama, but it's ridiculously unlikely that these two things have happened coincidentally. Some serious shit is going down.

[–]Cameleopard 82 points83 points ago

Well, I certainly hope that scummy little shit Chen ends up in prison over this.

[–]DumNerds 55 points56 points ago

Even SRS isn't sure about this. I have a feeling there will be much reddit wide anti-Chen drama. What a self-righteous scumbag.

[–]aGorilla 27 points28 points ago

self-righteous scumbag

Thank you! I've always wondered what SRS stood for.

[–]mastersergeant98 9 points10 points ago

This dude is the biggest fucking prick. I hope once and for all the admins decide to block every url from gawker's network from being submitted.

[–]beernerd 6 points7 points ago

That's actually not a bad idea... Gawker writers are paid based on page views, and reddit is a major source of traffic for them. Maybe a shot across their bow will remind them to consider the ethics of journalism.

[–]iggys_newgr00v 21 points22 points ago

Over what? The most I can figure is stalking

Edit: I just read downthread about blackmail, which may apply to the happenings at creepshots but the VA/Chen situation is a seperate thing, is it not?

[–]kragmoor 19 points20 points ago

blackmailing someone is kind of illegal so... that?

[–]exoendo 38 points39 points ago

gawker is going to roll out an article on violentacrez in the coming days and they are going to dox him. violentacrezs went into ultra deletion mode

[–]MikeLove9 22 points23 points ago

his ass needs to see a lawyer, i dont believe that going to the police would help

[–]dudleymooresbooze 11 points12 points ago

Whatever poor cop is randomly assigned to meet with him at the police station is going to be confused as shit.

"So it's a website that isn't really about anything, but people spend a lot of time on it, and you post pictures of girls' asses without their knowledge, and you don't want anybody to know that you do this, and so you deleted the whole website to prevent being 'doxxed'? Or part of the website? Wait, what does Anderson Cooper have to do with this again? And what exactly is the cash value of these karma points? Nothing?!? You saved up 120,000 imaginary Internet points worth nothing?!? Hell, even Call of Duty gives you a golden gun when you get enough points."

[–]janethefish 29 points30 points ago

CreeperComforts told me he in his last PM that he is going to see the police tonight about this threat and see what, if anything, can be done.

Thank God. Someone actually handling this crap right for once.

[–]ONTD 23 points24 points ago

Lol, I really hope he goes to the police and tries to explain to them what creepshots is.

[–]sycoraxfleet 67 points68 points ago

Oh, the things that can happen in the space of a day.

http://i.imgur.com/o86yw.jpg

[–]SilversunPickups[S] 28 points29 points ago

Glorious, yet tragic all the same.

[–]flounder19 940 points941 points ago

I feel like this threat isn't entirely legal...

[–]Atraineus 759 points760 points ago

It's straight up black-mail.

[–]jaycrew 529 points530 points ago

Straight up black male?

Check your cis privilege.

[–]SeriousMoad 81 points82 points ago

There's now a term for not being gay or trans?

[–]toohardtoswallow 97 points98 points ago

You can be gay and cisgendered, for the record.

Think of Neil Patrick Harris. Likes dudes, but acts like a dude.

[–]Tactful 16 points17 points ago

I'm so confused. Don't most gay guys act like... well, straight guys? As in, they act like regular males? That's how the gay guys I know act. And then a fraction of gay guys act more feminine, hence why they have a term.

It seems like we're trying to sort people into two groups using two boxes, when we could just use the inside and the outside of one box with half the time and effort.

[–]toohardtoswallow 18 points19 points ago

Cis and trans aren't as much related to sexual orientation as they are gender identity.

[–]aloneinlove 88 points89 points ago

I would like to mention that how a person acts has nothing to do with their gender identity. A transwoman can be butch and a transman can be be feminine. Or a gay guy can be extremely feminine but is still cis.

[–]broden 27 points28 points ago

Also species identity comes into play. While I may have a human identity, as an otherkin I identify as a horse.

[–]aloneinlove 37 points38 points ago

Finally someone who understands! I'm transethnic otherkin - I identify as pug but my fellow otherkins thinks I'm a corgi while the cis human scum keeps mis-speciesing me.

[–]DubDubz 6 points7 points ago

It's a social science term used in academic works that has been picked up in colloquial speech.

[–]david-me 223 points224 points ago

This definitely looks like something the Admins should look into.

[–]moraigeanta 105 points106 points ago

It makes me really uncomfortable to think of what could happen if the admins don't address this. It just seems like a terrible precedent to set to allow blackmail on the site unaddressed.

[–]jasontimmur 16 points17 points ago

They won't. This isn't the first time. The admins have been messaged by many people in regards to this and NOTHING is being done about it.

[–]Rasgueado 12 points13 points ago

And yet GoT was swiftly banned for much less abusive behavior. Things are getting interesting...

[–]dudleymooresbooze 5 points6 points ago

It's all about the cash. GoT invaded and fucked with big subreddits like pics, askreddit, wtf, and etc. Those are the money makers are the big page views for the site. SRS jumps into strange little battles and goes ape shit on obscure, fairly offensive subreddits. The site can afford to lose creepshots and have bickering in mensrights over whether it's appropriate to call a female cohabitant a "roommate." For the admins to get involved would potentially backfire, and the juice isn't worth the squeeze as compared to protecting the sanctity of the mass subreddits.

[–]sanfrustration 32 points33 points ago

Why is the first username redacted? If it was the 'main mod,' would that be public information?

[–]david-me 32 points33 points ago

It may have been sent using a different account

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[–]Bartab 314 points315 points ago

It is a federal felony. 18 U.S.C. § 875(a) possibly (d) as well.

Penalties are up to twenty years in jail. The recipient of this mail pictured in this screenshot should acquire competent legal representation and contact federal prosecutors in their area.

From what I know of violentacrez's issue, he should do the same.

"But but, Reddit is anonymous!" you say. No, it's not. It's pseudo-anonymous and such anonymity will not survive subpoena to Reddit to find your IP, and your ISP to find your billing identity. Given the nature of the incident, it's quite likely Reddit wouldn't even wait for a subpoena.

[–]rmrilke 153 points154 points ago

18 U.S.C. § 875(a)

...You just cited a kidnapping ransom statute.

[–]Roboticide 77 points78 points ago

Yeah, but he sounds knowledgeable as fuck. I mean, he cited legal code.

[–]rmrilke 30 points31 points ago

My favorite part is that his karma keeps going up and up. No one cares that he has absolutely no clue what hes talking about because they all WISH they could give people on the internet 20 years in prison for making them mad. Think about that, this guy thinks you can get TWENTY YEARS in prison for making someone delete their reddit account. Amazing.

[–]alwayshornyguy 10 points11 points ago

I still haven't read through his/her entire comment. When I saw "It is", a declaration of fact, followed by legal code, I stopped reading.

I have no trust left in me for what anonymous people write online. I could be a thorough skeptic, and research the validity behind what redditors say, but I just don't have the energy.

The only things I open my ears to and upvote here are stories, anecdotes, experiences, feelings, expressions. Unless the information really interests me, there are exceptions of course

[–]wanking_furiously 4 points5 points ago

For the lazy.

(a) Whoever transmits in interstate or foreign commerce any communication containing any demand or request for a ransom or reward for the release of any kidnapped person, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

...

(d) Whoever, with intent to extort from any person, firm, association, or corporation, any money or other thing of value, transmits in interstate or foreign commerce any communication containing any threat to injure the property or reputation of the addressee or of another or the reputation of a deceased person or any threat to accuse the addressee or any other person of a crime, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

[–]DoListening 102 points103 points ago

I assume the admins will only give out that PM author's IP address if they're asked by law enforcement. And somehow I doubt the mod would file a police report over this.

[–]Calimhero 41 points42 points ago

I can confirm this after some issues I had while moderating SW. Admins only release IPs after a subpoena. No exceptions.

[–]Bartab 142 points143 points ago

Ok, assuming that the screenshot is of a legitimately sent PM on reddit and not faked then it still exists on Reddit servers - even if "deleted" - and will be trivially verified by admins.

So given that, Reddit has just been used as a vehicle to transmit a felonious threat. A threat to engage in activity in violation of Reddit's ToS, and compelling an action on Reddit itself.

You better believe that Reddit would respond to a simple prosecutorial request with no need of a court order.

Now, if none of this is faked, then the recipient would be a fool to not engage the legal system. The civil court would probably transfer the entire gawker property, among any other property the blackmailer owns.

You really just don't grasp how serious threats are.

[–]hookedupphat 91 points92 points ago

Now, if none of this is faked, then the recipient would be a fool to not engage the legal system

Effectively outing himself as a person who takes candid upskirt/creepy pictures around town and posts them online. It's not illegal (I think, IANAL), but could have some serious ramifications in one's personal and professional life.

If it were me I'd just call it a day too.

[–]LizzyBeth88 7 points8 points ago

You seriously think if someone had his identity they wouldn't eventually reveal it anyway? Stalk him around wherever they can?

I'd rather out myself like that than have someone dangle this over my head for who knows how long just waiting for me to do something they don't like. If someone threatened to take me down, I'd take them with me.

[–]hookedupphat 5 points6 points ago

It's all relative to how much you have to lose.

[–]LizzyBeth88 7 points8 points ago

The more I have to lose the less I'd trust someone else to not out me.

[–]haikuginger 80 points81 points ago

875(a) is completely irrelevant; it's about ransom demands. 875(d) WOULD apply if the doxxer was demanding money or any other valuable thing. 873 is the federal blackmail statute, and it only applies if the threat is to reveal evidence of a crime.

[–]typon 26 points27 points ago

What? Are you kidding me? Are you suggesting karma is any less valuable than money?

[–]RadioFreeReddit 5 points6 points ago

He's saying that r/creepshots wasn't criminal.

[–]NYPL24020 151 points152 points ago

What the fuck are you talking about?

It's certainly NOT section 875(a). Who is the kidnapped person, exactly?

It's BARELY (d). Is the moderator privilege a "thing of value"? Typically those clauses are read as a "thing of value" in receipt. Is this person asking for some "thing of value" in receipt? I don't think so.

It is certainly a threat. It is probably extortion, but it does not full under that statute.

I'm posting the text of the statute so you can rethink your position.

(a) Whoever transmits in interstate or foreign commerce any communication containing any demand or request for a ransom or reward for the release of any kidnapped person, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both. (b) Whoever, with intent to extort from any person, firm, association, or corporation, any money or other thing of value, transmits in interstate or foreign commerce any communication containing any threat to kidnap any person or any threat to injure the person of another, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both. (c) Whoever transmits in interstate or foreign commerce any communication containing any threat to kidnap any person or any threat to injure the person of another, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both. (d) Whoever, with intent to extort from any person, firm, association, or corporation, any money or other thing of value, transmits in interstate or foreign commerce any communication containing any threat to injure the property or reputation of the addressee or of another or the reputation of a deceased person or any threat to accuse the addressee or any other person of a crime, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

Word of advice: If you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Don't talk.

[–]dreadthefred- 14 points15 points ago

thanks for posting the blurb so i could see the bs firsthand homey, big ups.

[–]NYPL24020 6 points7 points ago

hat tip

[–]Tomulent 40 points41 points ago

He could be sending messages while using Tor browser

[–]david-me 45 points46 points ago

Yikes! According to this article, the FBI can't even track down the child porn guys because of TOR.

[–]nolimitsoldier 100 points101 points ago

The FBI can't even bypass the lock screen on an android phone.

People have way to much faith in their aluminum hats.

[–]scuatgium 34 points35 points ago

Someone with the right software package can do that without being in the FBI. Mobile forensics suites are out there, just like HDD forensics suites have existed for years which you can be obtained for a fuck ton of money.

[–]Bartab 17 points18 points ago

This is patently untrue. With physical access to the recorded media storing the OS, I can bypass the lock screen on an android phone, and I'm sure the FBI - as an agency - has at least as much technical wherewithal as I do.

What you mean is that individual agents may not be able too, or they aren't able to without gasp turning the phone off.

[–]nolimitsoldier 38 points39 points ago

That would be evidence tampering and they are currently unable to do it. At least as of last year. The forensic software used also requires the phone to be unlocked which puts you in a shitty spot as you can't bypass without tampering with the device. Much like PCs they can't just reset the password and use the computer. They pull the drive out and either use the read-only locked devices to image it or access the file structure they need. I am not aware of any device that allows this to happen with a locked screen and I would love if you could provide one.

[–]Smiles_and_Sunshine 189 points190 points ago

I can confirm that he has lawyered up. A few Reddit staff members, a "journalist" and several users at "SRS" are in for some harsh times ahead.

This is so entertaining. :)

Also, there is a group doxxing some of the SRS people for additional hi-jinx. Oh, the fun that is coming in the next few days...

[–]jambox888 44 points45 points ago

Staff members? Do tell... My mouth is watering at the thought of this much drama.

[–]PandaSandwich 36 points37 points ago

Since he(founder of creepshots) has not done anything illegal, if reddit gave SRS his IP, knowing full well what they would do with it, that would probably be illegal

[–]PunsDeLeon 10 points11 points ago

I don't know about Canadian laws, but here in the US, that shit is crazy illegal.

[–]PandaSandwich 5 points6 points ago

Which part?

[–]PunsDeLeon 9 points10 points ago

Contrary to what Lystrodom said, I meant disclosing the person's IP address to someone without a legitimate reason to have it.

[–]PandaSandwich 9 points10 points ago

Yeah, especially since the admins know what will happen if they give SRS people's IPs

[–]PunsDeLeon 10 points11 points ago

Yeah. If the reddit admins actually did disclose that information, Conde Nast is about to take a big bite out of a shit sandwich.

[–]instagigated 60 points61 points ago

I'm a journalist. How can I get in on this?

[–]Ivashkin 14 points15 points ago

Sue VA and Reddit.

[–]alwayshornyguy 7 points8 points ago

Research -> Write -> Publish.

[–]itsnotlupus 7 points8 points ago

wait for the lawsuit, then submit an amicus brief consisting entirely of creepshots and doxx of everybody named in the suit.

[–]IronicAlbatross 20 points21 points ago

That feeling of anticipation as you stare through the glass into the micro and just count the pops until it's ready.

[–]HerpthouaDerp 13 points14 points ago

It ain't over 'till there's three seconds between pops.

[–]Smiles_and_Sunshine 4 points5 points ago

It makes you rub your nipples in excitement!

[–]PunsDeLeon 4 points5 points ago

I've chafed mine to the point where I'm rubbing raw muscle tissue.

[–]drunkendonuts 2 points3 points ago

The dox has happened and the pain will be real.

[–]fb95dd7063 8 points9 points ago

Reddit employees and SRSers are in on this? looooooooool holy shit.

[–]ac_slat3r 38 points39 points ago

This is the best thing I have read all day.

God I hope these internet white knights get fucked hard.

[–]HerpthouaDerp 12 points13 points ago

White Knight, Black Mail. A tale of honor, glory, and poor personal hygiene.

[–]Gareth321 13 points14 points ago

A few Reddit staff members

If this is true it would explain Reddit's reluctance to ban a subreddit which literally wants to take down Reddit, and which has instigated a number of instances which gave Reddit extremely negative publicity. Not only would this confirm the suspicions of the greater Reddit community, it would destroy any faith we have in the admins. Not just because of bias, but because some staff are willing to disclose personal information to a hate group. I sincerely hope this isn't true. /r/SubredditDrama, on the other hand, just invested in a metric fuckton of popcorn, and an imperial assload of butter.

[–]Gandalv 3 points4 points ago

THIS MAKES ME HAPPY.

[–]JelloSounds 88 points89 points ago

Doxing or Doxxing is the act of identifying a person from one small bit of information such as an email address. The "Doxer" uses this email address to find out phone numbers, address, real name etc of the target. Doxing is "legal" as long as you are only finding publicly available information, it becomes illegal if you stalk the person through online chat services, like facebook or msn, or if you hack into their social accounts, like facebook, twitter, gmail hotmail etc.

Source

[–]david-me 116 points117 points ago

Any on which are grounds for an immediate ban from Reddit, no questions asked.

[–]TheRedditPope 77 points78 points ago

Right. The admins don't mess around with this stuff. I've heard of users who have been banned for less blatant doxxing than what this comment describes.

[–]jokes_on_you 33 points34 points ago

But I've reported more blatant doxxing than this and got no response. It was an /atheism post that had a "fundie"'s work address and phone number.

[–]flounder19 78 points79 points ago

collecting the information is legal but threatening to reveal it unless the other person does something for you definitely isn't

[–]haddock420 45 points46 points ago

As someone else pointed out, it's straight up blackmail.

[–]AskMeAboutMyLobotomy 26 points27 points ago

as opposed to upside down blackmail?

[–]metalguitar103 31 points32 points ago

How was your lobotomy?

[–]zahlman 3 points4 points ago

It's kinda more like out right blackmail.

[–]melgibson 59 points60 points ago

Blackmail is illegal. It doesn't matter if what you are threatening to do is legal. Blackmail is still illegal.

I am free to publish VA's personal information. VA is free to offer to do something for me to stop it. When I tell VA "do something for me or I will publish this information" it is blackmail.

[–]wwyzzerdd 110 points111 points ago

Right but legal only matters if you're doing something i don't like.

/srs mantra

[–]iMacHunt 62 points63 points ago

/srs mantra

Actually it's more like the Reddit mantra in general. Downloading copyrighted material is okay, smoking pot is okay, ALL drugs should be legal, lusting over underage jailbait is fine because "evolution = fertile", doxxing people is cool if it's agreed they "deserve it", etc.

Reddit in general has their laws that they are in agreement are stupid and should be ignored... wouldn't say SRS is any different. Two sides of the same coin.

[–]Atraineus 486 points487 points ago

I can appreciate the dramatic irony of a /r/CreepShots mod not wanting to be exposed online but doxxing and black-mail I can't agree with.

[–]b3mus3d 45 points46 points ago

I don't think this is an example of dramatic irony, just regular old irony.

But I'm also pretty sure that arguing about the definition of irony on the internet is a terrible, terrible idea. And yet here I am posting this.

[–]Iam_Iam_Iam 8 points9 points ago

I think in this instance they mean more that the situation is "full of drama" AND ironic

[–]moraigeanta 192 points193 points ago

The existence of /r/CreepShots and similar subreddits makes me feel uncomfortable but this actually makes me feel a bit sick.

[–]saintdaniel 89 points90 points ago

yeah, I know exactly what you mean. I agree that /r/Creepshots is definitely wrong but I really am not cool with the blackmail. It felt like whoever sent it has seen way too many movies.

[–]he_cried_out_WTF 130 points131 points ago

Welcome to the REAL srs.

[–]zebuilin 3 points4 points ago

SO Ethical.

[–]Erikster 51 points52 points ago

Well holy shit.

Why is all of this exploding now? Just because VA was doxxed?

[–]Togepi27 30 points31 points ago

Wait, It was confirmed he was doxxed?

[–]SilversunPickups[S] 55 points56 points ago

[–]TonyCubed 18 points19 points ago

Sorry to ask this, but I just seen this hit the frontpage and has me confused what is actually going on...

Can anyone explain from the beginning whats going on please? What does 'SRS' and 'doxxed' mean?

I know reddit is big so this must have slipped past me. :/ Thank you! :D

[–]SilversunPickups[S] 19 points20 points ago

SRS is shitredditsay. It started off with Something Awful goons kind of trolling. One thing led to another and now it is an annoying force that is made up of trolls and self righteous shits. /r/ShitRedditSays/

Doxxing refers to gathering personal information and using it to blackmail somebody. The information can be gathered in past comments or submissions, or from else where on the web.

[–]TonyCubed 5 points6 points ago

Ahh thank you for the comment, some things are fitting into place with the story.

Again, thank you! :)

[–]Erikster 4 points5 points ago

That's the only reason I can see why he would delete his account, but of course that's only speculation. I have no hard evidence.

[–]douglasmacarthur 16 points17 points ago

All I can say is that I dont envy the Reddit employee that has to track and sort out all this nonsense and I hope he or she is paid well.

[–]kragmoor 11 points12 points ago

this is entirely not legal. and if anything gets the admins of their lazy asses, it's people breaking the law on their site

[–]CreeperComforts 80 points81 points ago

This is what was sent this morning:

It's over

from HelloJK sent 14 hours ago

Hello *****.

Please don't go to the trouble of denying your identity. We have archived a great deal of evidence to confirm it.

Today you have a choice between two options.

Option 1

  • Shut down r/creepshots.
  • Unmod all the other moderators.
  • Delete every submission.
  • Delete your own creepshots from Imgur.
  • Leave only one post up: a public apology from you to the women of Toronto and to women in general for what you've been doing. The apology should acknowledge that r/creepshots is a vile subreddit because it normalizes perverted behavior.
  • After a day or so, make this account moderator. Make the subreddit private. Remove yourself and delete the CreeperComforts account.
  • Never post creepy pictures online again.
  • Just don't take creepy pictures anymore.

Option 2.

Use your imagination.

We advise you to choose option 1. Clean up your mess, change your behaviour, and move on with your life.

You have 48 hours to decide.

But after what happened to www.reddit.com/r/violentacrez , I doubt they will leave me alone, even if I do comply to everything, I am at a loss as to what else I can do.

[–]douglasmacarthur 16 points17 points ago

Dude,

As a neutral observer in this but committed pedantic,

The image you released has the first and last letter of your first name visible.

And now this has your first and last initial visible via the username of the individual that sent you that message.

Are you an idiot?

[–]pinkiepieisbest 43 points44 points ago

You contact the authorities, which I sincerely hope you've done.

http://legaltree.ca/node/554

Extortion is a crime in Canada, and this is that.

[–]sycoraxfleet 106 points107 points ago

Have a look at /r/violentacrez. SRS is srs bsns. Someone start drafting a recap!

[–]deletecode 44 points45 points ago

Wait, ytknows is top mod there. I didn't think his involvement with SRS was serious.

[–]SoBraveAllStar 19 points20 points ago

ytknows also modded SRS in circlejerk. It didn't last. It was just for the lulz. ytknows is still topmod. He can kick SRS out as soon as he gets bored.

If you just wanted to get someone to dance on VA's grave... who will dance harder and circlejerk faster than SRS?

[–]v1i1v1a1l1o1c1a3 42 points43 points ago

I thought I heard ytknows was ArchAngelleDworkin's alt
Edit: I can't believe you fucks upvoted me for such an unsubstantiated comment

[–]rampantdissonance 22 points23 points ago

I don't believe that. Nothing about him even remotely suggests SRS. He has a tattoo of a watch on his wrist set to 4:20. His moderation style is extremely hands off, and every other day there's a there's a thread making fun of female gone wild posters. He was involved in the Reddit formation of the Stewart/Colbert rally.

None of this is conclusive, I admit, but still. Remember when the SRS wing of /r/magicskyfairy tried to ban the word stupid as it was an ableist slur? The users revolted and the mods back down.

This is annoyingly nonconclusive as I read over it again, but I would be absolutely shocked if ytknows was an AA.

[–]Boobies_Are_Awesome 15 points16 points ago

That's just what he lets you see. However, there's a much darker side to ytknows that most people aren't aware of. I wouldn't be so shocked if I were you.

[–]deletecode 20 points21 points ago

I had a silly theory that ArchangelleDworkin was violentacrez, based on the amount of trolling they both do.

[–]HatesRedditors 22 points23 points ago

After I got into it with violentacrez in PM I was banned from /r/shitredditsays.

This was an alt that i use for SRS and general jimmy rustling, when I messaged the mods they let me back in with no explanation when I asked why i was banned.

Hardly proof, but since then I've had a suspicion that he's one of the archangelles.

[–]YouWithTheFace 26 points27 points ago

GOA is actually archangellestrudelle

[–]GodOfAtheism 39 points40 points ago

Confirmed.

[–]JustBrowsing4Chan 22 points23 points ago

Let me suck you off neckbeard king <3

[–]reese_ridley 19 points20 points ago

how did SRS get their hands on the sub? they certainly didn't go through /r/redditrequest

[–]sycoraxfleet 27 points28 points ago

the only plausible reason is that ytknows modded a few archangelles after VA left. Which is baffling in its own right.

[–]tdahjuan 29 points30 points ago

not really...wasn't ytknows the mod who brought SRS into /r/CircleJerk?

[–]sycoraxfleet 24 points25 points ago

I remember when that happened. Now I'm wondering why he was a mod on /r/violentacrez in the first place.

[–]A_Cylon_Raider 3 points4 points ago

Ytknows does a lot of CSS work for a lot of subreddits. He's a mod of /r/csshelp and does a lot of the /r/circlejerk CSS themes, so it's really not surprising for him to be on the modlist of subreddits he doesn't participate in.

[–]Duderino316 81 points82 points ago

This is interesting:

SHUT DOWN BY SOMETHING AWFUL:

Jailbait Subs

/u/violentacrez

/r/creepshots

COMING SOON:

MensRights

Reddit

EDIT1: this was displayed on /r/violentacrez before it was banned.

EDIT2: the sub was reopened, minus the text I posted above.

[–]E10DIN 6 points7 points ago

isn't the sidebar an srs confession to the doxxing of creepercomforts?

[–]QueenCityACCT 50 points51 points ago

Annnnnd it's already on reddit request.

[–]ulvok_coven 39 points40 points ago

Which will fail, because PIMA and the other mods are still very much active.

[–]SilversunPickups[S] 62 points63 points ago

PIMA isn't a mod. The main mod had to demod all current mods then mod the doxxer before finally demodding himself. Still won't be given to someone because the doxxer is an active mod.

Edit: The word mod is used in some essence 7 times in the above comment. Nifty.

[–]emmytee 143 points144 points ago

I, for one, think this whole thing is fucking hilarious.

[–]f1rstperson 18 points19 points ago

Hence your subscription to this subreddit.

[–]Facehammer 34 points35 points ago

I know, huh! This is a good day for SRD.

[–]TwoChe 28 points29 points ago

Wow. What the fuck is going on and why radio silence from the Admins. Isn't this a pretty big violation of Rule 5?

[–]Kinglink 20 points21 points ago

Likely because the admins agree with it and reopening it shows they approve of it. Before it just appeared that they ignored it, but stepping in now, shows that it's "protected" by the admins. Either that or it hasn't reached them yet.

Still this sets a very dangerous precedent that the rules only are there to protect those who the admins actually agree with.

[–]someawed 68 points69 points ago

This is great popcorn and all,but why is it that /r/subredditdrama is always the ones that get really mad at what SRS is doing?

I mean, out of all meta-subs, /r/SubredditDrama is the one sub with now 400 comments worth of insults, arguments and drama. Why did we get so directly involved instead of observing stuff?

[–]thegoogs 85 points86 points ago

Some people on this subreddit seem to be a little too obsessed with SRS.

[–]Epistaxis 28 points29 points ago

It's a fair question and I don't have a complete answer, but consider that SRS and SRD have somewhat opposite purposes: they're both meta-subreddits that like to find embarrassing things on reddit, but SRD does it in the context of ironic detachment and amusement while SRS gets outraged and instigatory. Also consider that many subscribers of SRD found their way here because it's a place where they could freely discuss reddit activities that offend them without fear of any retribution other than downvotes - a "safe space", if you will.

[–]siempreloco31 26 points27 points ago

but SRD does it in the context of ironic detachment and amusement.

Not recently. Most of the top comments are discussing the merits of each person's argument.

[–]cjojojo 9 points10 points ago

commenting on and discussing the situation away from the situation itself is much different from getting yourself involved in the situation (ex. downvote brigades, doxxing wars, etc.)

Edit: I accidentally some words

[–]LizzyBeth88 15 points16 points ago

I love the 'no grey area' arguments from the crazies in this thread. Apparently, if someone is against blackmailing someone from /r/creepshots, you automatically agree that the sub should stay up and support it morally 101%.

It has yet to occur to some that you can be against both and know that, barring extreme circumstances, one is not justified by the other.

[–]fungalicious 27 points28 points ago

Ummmm...so what exactly stops someone else from creating a similar sub?

This just seems like a dumb and illegal way to go about getting something done...I'm not even arguing if they should do it or not, I just don't quite see how they hope this is effective...

EDIT: Also - I really think this is a dumb idea if it was done by SRS...I mean I am sure both sides have their computer people, but I am willing to bet the "creeps" can do a lot more damage "doxxing" SRS, so this makes even less sense in that regard. Does SRS really want to fight a dox war with the likes of 4chan?

EDIT2: http://www.reddit.com/r/CreepyShots well that was quick

[–]tarraingmobod 274 points275 points ago

The dox war that SRS is starting will probably not conclude until it's breached Gawker's entity at this point. Hope you're happy, Gawker.

EDIT: its about time you got here, SRS. I've got another 100 accounts linked to my upvote bot; I appreciate you volunteering for testing. Let your downvotes commence!

(christ, this was just too easy)

[–]fireinthesky7 74 points75 points ago

On the other hand, if it leads to someone at Gawker being charged with blackmail and the network gets figuratively fucked by the ensuing litigation, I'm ok with that.

[–]ac_slat3r 24 points25 points ago

I just got a semi reading that. I would love to see a post written by Adrian after being arrested :D

Probably the only thing he has ever written that I would enjoy.

[–]AgonistAgent 6 points7 points ago

It will be a sensationalist cop abuse story and someone will pay his bail.

[–]TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK 105 points106 points ago

The dox war that SRS is starting

They should not do this, and I imagine they aren't and won't. Try to think about how quickly the cleverer redditors would figure out who the archangelles are.

SRS, please think of the children.

[–]david-me 147 points148 points ago

The doxxing of SRS mods is how the archangelles alts were started.

[–]TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK 38 points39 points ago

I thought dox dropping was threatened, but never came to fruition. Did I mishear?

[–]MaxLemon 42 points43 points ago

Happened several times to several mods.

[–]tarraingmobod 100 points101 points ago

It seems to me they already have. Over and over again srs learns the lesson about doxxing, and over and over again they do it anyhow. As a generic human I feel actually very bad for them; they honestly don't appear to realize the severity of what they're doing. This is the "bigger and bigger gun" game, and fuck knows srs doesn't have access to the sort of nukes that their targets do.

[–]Anomander 39 points40 points ago

Over and over again srs learns the lesson about doxxing,

I don't understand what lesson they're learning here.

Dox, get banned? Shit, it takes 3 seconds to remake an account.

All they're learning is that there are no real consequences.

[–]SwedishCommie 16 points17 points ago

Aaand /r/CreepShots banned.

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[–]SilversunPickups[S] 36 points37 points ago

JK is most likely the initials of creepercomforts irl, and so the username is showing that they do indeed have personal information. Of course they're going to use a new account for this purpose. As for who he sent the PM to, he sent it to the rest of the mods of /r/creepshots so they knew what was going on.

[–]MillenniumFalc0n[M] 3 points4 points ago

Removed for linking to dox

[–]Abdicator 10 points11 points ago

Only one thing is for sure: there's a storm coming

[–]Sir-Boasts-A-Lot 5 points6 points ago

This is the best popcorn ever.

[–]khoury 12 points13 points ago

Admins will probably still leave SRS untouched. What's the prevailing theory right now? One of them is in a relationship with an SRS mod?

[–]terminal157 5 points6 points ago

This is what really mystifies me. So much of the dysfunction and ill will in Reddit comes out of SRS. They clearly skirt and often demonstrably violate the rules. Why are they untouchable?

[–]devastatingwoundchan 36 points37 points ago

As a woman, if I had to choose between someone leering at an anonymous clothed shot of my ass and blackmailing me based on my sexual fetishes, I would choose the leering every time. Talk about the cure being worse than the disease. I felt perfectly safe on the streets with notwithstanding /r/creepshots (and related subreddits), but now I don't really feel totally safe having a reddit account.

[–]cycophuk 13 points14 points ago

I'm not sure if this will be seen, but someone or some people, created a tumblr account to dox people that had posted in r/creepshots.

It provides their a picture of the person, their real name, reddit name, where they live, age, screenshots of their posts, as well as other misc info. The people behind this have really gone to great lengths to provide as much personal info about these people as possible.

I'm sure it was created to as retaliation for posting pics that are considered an invasion of privacy, but this is pretty extreme.

I'm not going to post the link, as I'm sure it goes against the "no doxxing" rule and I don't want to get in trouble. If a mod wants to PM me, I will give them the link so they can check it out. I doubt anything can be done about it, but it can't hurt to try.

I really think this needs to be brought to people's attention though, since it is their personal info being posted. At the very least, the people who's info is posted there should know. If you were a contributor to r/creepshots, there is a good chance you have been doxxed.

[–]CarlSaganAMA 23 points24 points ago

Posting this again to raise awareness:

I'm fairly certain the doxxer was, or was aided by, a user named swintonblum. The doxxer mentions Toronto and seems to have a very personalized vendetta against the creepshot owner. She previously posted a TON of srswomen posts, which I occasionally troll. She created a post called

[TW] creepy motherfucker was taking pictures of my ass while I was grocery shopping

Which is now deleted, and I can't seem to find any trace of it on caches. Furthermore, all of her posts except for some heavy linkkarama ones have been deleted. I remember her posting about how some old dude apparently took a picture of her ass while she was bending over to get a pizza at the grocery store (in toronto). There was much talk in the thread of doxxing/outing creepyshots admin.

I would encourage anyone who has more sleuthing skills to find out whether she was infact behind this doxxing.

[–]zonkers11 4 points5 points ago

This has got to be one of the slimier things I've ever seen go down. Ever. And I seent a lot o' shit. Damn.

[–]J_Jammer 4 points5 points ago

What craziness is that...that's CREEPY.

[–]FuckAllOfYouAssholes 149 points150 points ago

My mind has been officially boggled.

  • Since when did anyone from something awful give two shits about content on the internet?
  • Since when did a group of them (if not all of the users) become affiliated with SRS?
  • Since when did they go from trolling randoms to targeted attacks on things they thing are wrong?
  • Why the fuck is SA even mentioned in /r/violentacrez?
  • Do SA users really think their going to change people with what they're doing?
  • Did SRS actually come from SA?
  • Why the hell is anyone doing illegal shit to shame people for doing shit that isn't illegal?
  • Since when was SRS the moral compass for anyone?
  • Why the fuck does it even matter what's going on on Reddit?
  • How the fuck did the redditrequest for creepshots and /r/violentacrez go through already?

I am physically ill at what SRS and their affiliates are doing. It's fucking pointless. They're not winning anything. They're not doing any good. They're not saving people, ending violence, stopping harassment, providing help for any oppressed persons, changing public opinion. They're just fucking with reddit for the sake of it. The userbase is immature, and people say stupid shit and do stupid shit. But trying to ruin their public lives for how they act online? And blackmailing them with information that was likely taken illegally anyway, how the fuck is that any sort of 'okay'?

Any semblance of sympathy for the 'plight' of SRSers and the 'under-privileged' groups they represent is just gone for me. And I'm a fucking member of several of those groups. How can a group who claims to be pro-equality spew so much hate and do so many obviously bad things. And even if all this was just one person, they're doing on behalf of SRS and SRS is just rolling in the benefits.

And don't even bring up 'the greater good'. Don't even fucking dare bring up their actions like they have a net positive. If they want to do good, instead of calling all of reddit butthurt dwellers, why the fuck don't they get off their asses and out from behind their computer screens and go do something that has real value. Feed a homeless person. Become a counselor. Campaign for FUCKING EQUALITY. Not for Oppression Olympics, not for bringing down one group for the sake of bringing up another.

Who the fuck cares what /u/violentacrez has said or done? Who the fuck does it affect? No one. Literally nobody. Who the fuck does /r/CreepShots affect? No one. Not a single person is harmed. Not a single person is brought down.

Fuck all of you. Fuck SRS. Fuck SA. Fuck Gawker. Fuck whoever has been doxxing. Fuck you and everything you're doing. Fuck you for trying to bring down an entertainment site for the sake of stroking your own ego. Fuck you for doing real harm to people in the name of equality. Fuck your 'privilege' bullshit.

And fucking congrats for pissing me off. I'm sure that's just what you wanted. Rustle some jimmies, annoy some people. Good. Whatever. That only encourages me to be publicly against what you stand for. Nobody is forcing you to be on reddit, but you're forcing your opinions and beliefs on everyone else. You are the ones that should be shamed and banned. And you're too caught up in your own damned egos trying to annoy and piss off the userbase to see that. Fine. Cool. Ruin a business because you don't like what a bunch of assholes have to say. Good for you. They'll just move on. So will I.

ETA: For those who care: No i'm not /u/violentacrez, no I'm not a power user, and no I'm not a member or frequenter of any of the following subreddits: SRS, ASRS, MRA, Creepshots, VA's sub, jailbait (when it was around), or any of their spawn. I'm not directly involved in any of the drama. I'm a regular user just pissed off at the sum of the drama.

[–]SamWhite 44 points45 points ago

Something Awful acquired a proto-SRS brigade few years back, some of who became the beginning of SRS. SRS remains, but they've mostly left SA after moderators got tired of them and started fucking with their threads. Opinion on whether the original goons who started SRS were straight-up trolling or believe the shit they come out with is divided.

[–]StorkBaby 11 points12 points ago

My money is on an even split between trolling and earnest.

[–]IAMBollock 18 points19 points ago

What has SA got to do with SRS? I was thinking the same thing. This is all very silly and confusing.

[–]The_Patriarchy2 46 points47 points ago

It's complicated and stupid. SA had some ultra-PC idiots festering in some politics forum (e.g. /u/therealbarackobama a white whiney law student involved in SDS, /u/amrosorma a "genderqueer" Iranian, etc.), and some general trolls I guess. Both groups participated in some huge thread quoting Redditors to make fun of us. Prior to that some guy started the subreddit /r/shitredditsays and it was pretty benign....he would just do basically the same thing SA was doing. Meanwhile, some of the people who were involved in /r/againstmensrights (mostly people from /r/anarchism like /u/dbzer0, /u/skobrin, /u/rosielala, etc., and maybe one or two from /r/feminisms like /u/aerik), while trying to make /r/mensrights look bad to the rest of Reddit, were trying to find anywhere they could to link to what they considered horrible r/MR threads (e.g. /r/worstof)...and they found a nice home in r/SRS.

At some point the founder of SRS left, so /u/therealbarackobama requested it in /r/redditrequest and took control. He and his cadre of idiots turned it into what it is today. So, long story short: a bunch of idiots from Reddit, and idiots from SA made it what it is...and there were probably some actual trolls involved looking to see how much damage they could do.

[–]winfred 22 points23 points ago

What has SA got to do with SRS?

SRS is an SA joke.

[–]thegoogs 144 points145 points ago

Who the fuck cares what [3] /u/violentacrez has said or done? Who the fuck does it affect? No one. Literally nobody. Who the fuck does [4] /r/CreepShots affect? No one. Not a single person is harmed. Not a single person is brought down.

Eh, I think the girls who have pictures of their butts posted for guys to fap to would disagree.

[–]redyellowand 69 points70 points ago

Yeah, gonna go with that one.

[–]PersonEveryman 35 points36 points ago

Everyday thousands of pictures and videos are posted of people's actual faces--pictures that can be recognized and actually have an effect on someone--to this website with varying degrees of malicious statements attached. Comment sections spur entire conversations between strangers discussing how shitty this person or that person is, and no one bats an eye. But a body part is posted and all of a sudden it's a question of rights and whether or not you should be able to post and/or take pictures without consent.

It's bullshit. So it's okay to flame someone in front of the whole world but it's not okay to post a close up of a man or woman's ass? It's ok to post a liveleak of someone's death but unsuspecting cleavage is over the line? The level of hypocrisy is ridiculous.

Before anyone tries to make the "Intent is what matters" bullshit argument, allow me to address it, because it's fucking dumb.

A) Once the picture has been posted there is no way to know how anyone else will use it, so accounting for the poster's intent does nothing for anyone else's, nor does it excuse whether or not the subject of the photo wanted to be captured or posted.

B) Explain to me exactly why these statements make sense to anyone: "It's okay to post a picture of an obese person's asscrack because we are only trying to ridicule them in front of the whole world. It's not okay to post an attractive person's asscrack because someone might masturbate to it!"

Let's call a spade a spade. The people behind most of the witchhunts around here aren't doing this so they can protect these people who were "horribly affected" by these compromising pictures. They're doing this so they can validate themselves, TO themselves. They get to walk away telling themselves they landed a blow in the name of justice and pat themselves on the back about the heroes they are for the cause of righteousness...and yet they don't do shit for people who are actually in need. A pair of legs in yoga pants from the waistdown doesn't need or want your help. But last time I checked BeatingWomen was still around. Last time I checked defaults are waistdeep in people ridiculing strangers for the way they look, act, what they wear, where they live, etc. not to mention the amount of people in the real world that actually need help and protection.

Where's the indignation? Where's the disgust? Where's the witchhunt? This is armchair activism plain and simple. They get to act like they give a shit without ever leaving the front door.

[–]graffiti81 19 points20 points ago

Since when did anyone from something awful give two shits about content on the internet?

I think the funniest part of this whole thing is SA is responsible for 2g1c.

[–]sycoraxfleet 62 points63 points ago

It just says that /r/creepshots has gone private.

either way, I bet SRS will be throwing their feminist-flavoured lubed up dildos into the air in celebration. http://i.imgur.com/n0LMt.jpg

[–]SilversunPickups[S] 37 points38 points ago

Essentially removed, I guess I should have picked a different word. The old mods are gone and the doxxer is the new mod (I assume from the PM).

[–]david-me 38 points39 points ago

It won't be long before another "creepshots" subreddit takes its' place.

[–]deletecode 26 points27 points ago

I bet it will appear in less than an hour.

[–]wwyzzerdd 28 points29 points ago

It already has.

[–]flounder19 36 points37 points ago

It's right behind you

[–]david-me 26 points27 points ago

[–]angryPenguinator 4 points5 points ago

Good Lord that was quick.

[–]porygonguy 7 points8 points ago

Jokes on you, I'm sitting against a wall.

[–]FeetsBeneets 11 points12 points ago

Joke's on you, the wall is the new creepshots.

[–]UnoriginalMike 16 points17 points ago

While I do not think the means to kill r/creepshots was ethical I am happy r/creepshots is gone.

Now if we could just get srs to go down with it...

[–]Smudgerox 10 points11 points ago

Sorry, but what is doxxing?

[–]generalscruff 24 points25 points ago

finding out IRL details of someone over the internet. It's not strictly illegal if you're using public domain info, but it's illegal to blackmail like this and also it's one of the only things that gets you a shadowban from Reddit

[–]Bondidude 4 points5 points ago

Dox, or being doxed, in terms of online forum sites, is the physical equivalent of being butt-raped irl. Just as all the greats have, when a person is "doxed", all their personal information is made available for all users to see. Names, addresses, phone numbers and school/work are not spared, and this usually leads to the person ceasing all ties with said websites, if not the interwebs as a whole.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dox

[–]SilversunPickups[S] 9 points10 points ago

Basically, gathering personal information on someone and often times using it as blackmail.

[–]chrisgrizle 51 points52 points ago

Logic behind this HEY! stop taking those creepy pictures of hot girls in public, it's legal and all but it's morally wrong, take them down or I'll blackmail the shit out of you!

[–]mirv321 40 points41 points ago

Quick your doing something legal let me respond with my illegal action.

[–]Cadoc 82 points83 points ago

I can't sympathise with the methods of whoever did this (why does everyone 'know' it's SRS?), but that creepy fuck had it coming.