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[–]jadeycakes 215 points216 points ago

I feel like this was written on the wall in a college dorm which I think is kind of hilarious.

[–]Dev1l5Adv0cat3 235 points236 points ago

By an individual who just smoked weed for the first time.

[–]ATownStomp 45 points46 points ago

"This shit is so profound I've gotta tell somebody."

[–]mustnotthrowaway 7 points8 points ago

What if the cure for cancer is trapped inside the mind of someone who is too stoned to do anything about it?

[–]literallyagooch 147 points148 points ago

I like to think of it as "bumper sticker philosophy," the kind of shit that sounds meaningful in a short sentence but quickly falls apart when exposed to rational thinking. Reddit is filled to the brim with that kind of thinking, but it only seems to get called out in threads like this, when Redditors can just yell BUT BUT SCIENCE. The reality is that acting like there is one cure for cancer is exactly like thinking there is one single reason for going to war.

[–]bollockitis 27 points28 points ago

They are called platitudes, and we Americans love the warm fuzzy feeling they create. We plaster them all over our cars, in our political campaigns, and in chain e-mails. Books containing nothing but platitudes often become bestsellers (ever read Paulo Coehlo's The Alchemist?—it's one giant platitude wrapped in truisms).

[–]literallyagooch 6 points7 points ago

It doesn't always fall under that category, though, because most of the thoughts Reddit expresses this way are quite negative. Regardless, people do love hearing complicated issues inaccurately summed up in a single pithy sentence.

[–]smokeinhiseyes 6 points7 points ago

This smacks of the terribly similar argument used against the right to abortion...

[–]centerbleep 6 points7 points ago

You are completely missing the point. Paying $20k a year (or even $2k) for education is a horrible reality and bound to fuck up progress.

[–]SonOfDadOfSam 7 points8 points ago

So is getting a one-size-fits-all public education that's aimed at the lowest common denominator, is geared toward passing a test, and is paid for via an inefficient and wasteful organization that imposes increasing regulatory expenses without a corresponding increase in funding.

[–]mohawk75 7 points8 points ago

Yeah... I wouldn't have been able to afford an education, but scored well enough on my ACT to get a full ride scholarship and I certainly don't have the cure for cancer. I would, however, imagine the person that did would be more intelligent than I and likewise have his education free of charge.

[–]kriegler 9 points10 points ago

It reminds me of something my ex-housemate would have written during his pseudo-anarchist phase (never lend books on philosophy to assholes), which repulses me. Nonetheless, the issues it raises about educational opportunities and the potential benefits to society of universal education are valid issues.

[–]hansn 6 points7 points ago

Also, communists generally don't return the books they borrow. Just one of those things you learn.

[–]WatchingTrains[S] 1 point2 points ago

It was in a washroom at a Vietnamese restaurant. Profound I know.

[–]usfdude223 3 points4 points ago

Suprised we haven't seen the Keanu Reeves meme associated with this yet. Just sounds like a stoners idea.

[–]jandalofdoom 227 points228 points ago

This is a good point.

Let's get everyone without an education and cut out their brains.

[–]farceur318 40 points41 points ago

The files are in the computer?!

[–]ptgkbgte 52 points53 points ago

Nice try Cave Johnson.

[–]shoontz 14 points15 points ago

Nice try zombies.

[–]SpermWhale 2 points3 points ago

Rob?

[–]2773625 3 points4 points ago

screw you, I pay the bills, I will do what I want

[–]mohawk75 1 point2 points ago

Science!

[–]swrdswllngwhr 727 points728 points ago

What if there's no "cure" for cancer because it's not a disease like the flu but instead a wide spectrum of non-exclusive genetic disorders with little to no common causes or symptoms? Huh? What if, man?

[–]TheFAJ 296 points297 points ago

An uneducated person is exactly the type to have "the cure for cancer" trapped in their mind.

[–]bollockitis 101 points102 points ago

The National Cancer Institute often receives calls from the public who claim to have the "cure" for cancer. You would be surprised how many of these calls they receive. However, to NCI's credit, they answer every one of these calls and listen intently, partially out of professional duty, and partially because most will keep calling until they speak with someone.

[–]skybike 61 points62 points ago

I know the cure for cancer, cantaloupe. There, enjoy.

[–]NinjaSkillz810 65 points66 points ago

Nice try, local cantaloupe dealer.

[–]skybike 36 points37 points ago

You're going to ruin everything.

[–]MadMaddy 26 points27 points ago

YOUR CANTALOUPE STAND IS BUILT ON THE BLOOD OF CANCER PATIENTS!

[–]mtbr311 5 points6 points ago

CANCER MERCHANT

[–]dont_press_ctrl-W 10 points11 points ago

I can attest that I've never gotten cancer after eating a cantaloupe.

You may be onto something!

[–]fastredb 11 points12 points ago

You've never tried a delicious Fukushima cantaloupe have you?

[–]thepensivepoet 3 points4 points ago

Dip trip, flip fantasia.

[–]jooes 30 points31 points ago

No way, man! It's the government! They already have the cure, they're just keeping it under wraps so we continue to buy oil! I saw it on YouTube, so it has to be true!

[–]Crayshack 5 points6 points ago

No, it's BigPharma. They want to get money from treating people so they got the cure covered up man.

(My sister has said this to me, she claims there is a guy in Mexico that can cure any type of cancer, but the FDA refuses to let him prectice in the US. Mostly because his "cure" seems to be pretty much some warm tea and a good diet.)

[–]DiscordianStooge 2 points3 points ago

If he said it was homeopathic tea, he'd be able to sell a shitload in the U.S.

[–]blarglefwoop 20 points21 points ago

SHUT UP AND BUY A PINK WRISTBAND

[–]Keltaris 7 points8 points ago

"Like this photo to cure cancer!"

FFFFUUUU

[–]virati 52 points53 points ago

There are fundamental processes that can (theoretically) be bolstered to help "prevent" or at least reduce all cancers. Which process might do it, you ask? DNA error correction machinery. Here's another one: apototic signaling system. Another one: modification of immune system function. There are people looking into this and there are results that range from promising to disappointing.

Comments like yours are the worst. It seems like you wikipedia "cancer" and now masquerade as some sort of contrarian expert, too cool to actually understand the literature/research going on. Even a basic, passing knowledge gained from an intro oncology lecture would show you how wrong you are.

Current therapies are symptomatic (which vary greatly between different types/locations of cancers). But there's a move towards going towards shared pathways and fundamental processes now that we actually are starting to understand these shared pathways.

see (just one example): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrosine_kinase

http://www.nature.com/nrc/journal/v4/n5/abs/nrc1360.html

http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=tyrosine+kinase+cancer&btnG=&as_sdt=1%2C11&as_sdtp=

[–]floot_roops 41 points42 points ago

This is an oversimplification itself. "Cancer" is, at its lowest level, loss of normal growth control. You are correct that there is research targeted at "shared pathways" and normal systemic protective response to uncontrolled proliferation. However, it's a far stretch to say that our understanding of the myriad of mechanisms involved is even in the same realm as considering a "cure for cancer." Maybe someday, but not here, not now, and the "contrarian views" are closer than your own. It's like saying that the "secret to eternal life" is in someone's brain. Or "wolverine's healing factor" (okay, being a little ridiculous, but call it "quicker healing"). There's some science that points towards basic mechanisms that could be at play in both concepts.

Comments like yours are just as bad. It seems like you google scholar "cancer" and now masquerade as some sort of cancer research expert, too cool to actually dig deeper beyond superficial abstracts. Even a basic, passing knowledge gained from a good PubMed search and an academic library would show you how much you're generalizing.

You're not wrong, but neither is swrdswllngwhr. And he/she is more correct in calling out the silliness of the quote in the picture.

Sorry if I'm coming off as confrontational -- just trying to match your tone.

[–]hank7323 5 points6 points ago

i'm working at dana-farber now as a clinical research coordinator for phase one trials on some very promising oral kinase inhibitors. these are drugs that are being tested in multiple disciplines (i work in lymphoma, it's being tested in multiple myeloma, solid tumors, and i believe leukemia) and hold great promise.

oral kinase inhibitors may hold the key.

[–]CANCER_PUNCH 5 points6 points ago

Yeah, but broadly functioning treatments are still very, very different from a cure in the "go to your GP and take two of these twice a day before meals and it ought to clear right up" sense of the word.

[–]swrdswllngwhr 9 points10 points ago

Sir, not that I don't appreciate the attempt to educate and/or insult me, but I made a sarcastic comment in response to something a college stoner wrote on a wall. Maybe try to calm down a little bit?

[–]virati 2 points3 points ago

Fair enough, I apologize for the strong wording. But hopefully you understand why I had such a problem with what you said: the implication of your comment (sarcastic or not) was that efforts to "cure cancer" are "misguided" and ignore the "reality" you put forth.

This could be construed as "Oh, trying to 'cure cancer' is stupid, why would I donate to cure cancers" by some people. The issue in particular is that what you said, as a counter to the common perception of cancer is absolutely right. However, your attitude when applied to the direction of cancer research is dangerous. "cure for cancer" is a quick, almost marketing-like way to fund diverse, complex cancer research projects. You know it, academia knows it. However, in the future, there very well may be "a single/set of therapies that target the shared processes of cancer", and I don't want those efforts to suffer because of the attitude you (sarcastically or not) put forth (that there are few/no shared pathways in all cancers; something that is being explored as we speak).

There aren't too many things I take seriously, but apparently this is one of them :. My bad.

[–]swrdswllngwhr 4 points5 points ago

It's cool, I understand and sympathise with your position.

Here's the thing though... I've been watching my mom undergo treatment for various cancers and post-cancer complications for literally my entire life. So it's extremely difficult to hear campaign slogans shouting about how if they get just a little more money, then cancer can be gone forever. Like the disorder and everything that goes with it can be erased overnight with just a bit more cash and some miracle drug. No, it can't. Cancer is devastating and horrible and if you haven't watched your own mother slowly die for the last 23 years then I don't want to hear about your fucking pink wristbands or your purple ribbons.

We need to fund actual targeted research into preventative strategies and better understanding of all types of cancer, not just this marketing slogan breasts-and-testicles bullshit. I'd rather give my money to someone who's honest, who says "I can't eradicate cancer, but I would like to look into making a drug that halts rampant phosphorylation in certain types of metastatic cells", than to some peppy bitch who honestly believes "the cure" is right around the corner.

Cure for what? For foot-long surgery scars? For radiation-induced infertility? For psychological trauma, lifelong health complications and having to explain to your five year old child that you could die at any time and there's nothing anyone can do about it? There's no cure for that. It's a lifetime of abject suffering and I don't need some psycho with a wristband telling me it could have all been avoided if only someone had pledged five more dollars at the high school fundraiser.

So... yeah. That's why I'm sarcastic about the whole issue. Because I don't think I can handle taking it seriously anymore.

But regardless I do get what you're saying and I'm sorry if my derisiveness bothers you.

[–]JestersTrek 8 points9 points ago

I have dubbed the, "virati, The Hope Bringer."

[–]input_cords 3 points4 points ago

[–]thepensivepoet 0 points1 point ago

I always tell people you can't cure cancer any more than you can cure broken arms.

[–]opusinwub 0 points1 point ago

watch "The Beautiful Truth"

[–]LimeyG 6 points7 points ago

No way! There is only "cancer" and we just need to find "the" cure that will magically fix it, regardless of whether the cause was inherited, a generic abnormality, or environmental, or where in the body it originated.

[–]skybike 6 points7 points ago

Oh you have the cancer huh? Well let me just inject you with some anti-cancer serum, that should clear it all up in a few days.

[–]Radzell 1 point2 points ago

what if one of those kids just create a nano bot able to create, read, update, and delete cells and dna given people the ability to literally stop in time.

[–]antiproton 182 points183 points ago

What if some asshole who writes on walls doesn't understand how medicine works?

[–]victordavion 49 points50 points ago

Nor do they understand how knowledge works.

[–]CANCER_PUNCH 9 points10 points ago

They don't understand epidemiology or epistemology?

[–]albinomike 2 points3 points ago

I knew one of those words, and google has informed me that you made a very clever reply

[–]T3mporaryGold 65 points66 points ago

If we lived in a world where you were born with predisposed information like the cure for cancer, you wouldn't need an education.

[–]panaflax 37 points38 points ago

if you're so smart, why aren't you curing cancer

[–]Montarded 4 points5 points ago

Probably because trapped in his mind was 100 new ways of cooking grits or something like that. But due to a lack of culinary education, it will be trapped there.

[–]GreenTeaDrinkers 5 points6 points ago

I think everyone is missing the point by saying "there is no single cure to cancer," "that's not how knowledge works," and so forth.

No one thinks that Einstein was born with predisposed information on general relativity, special relativity, or the photoelectric effect. But, what if Einstein didn't have access to the education that gave him the tools to make these tremendous contributions?

The point is that there are intelligent, even brilliant, people out there who -- due to their economic or social positions -- don't have access to an education that could allow them to make amazing contributions to scientific research and development.

[–]jsoftz 30 points31 points ago

What if dogs had wings and could fly? I bet they would get into all sorts of trouble!

[–]V4refugee 5 points6 points ago

Imagine having to wake up to dog crap on your windshield.

[–]need_context 3 points4 points ago

read this in the voice of Harry Caray

[–]crazyex 2 points3 points ago

Cats would be even worse.

[–]RatioFitness 41 points42 points ago

It's unlikely that a single person will be responsible for curing cancer. If there is a general cure for cancer (highly unlikely) it will be the result of many research groups.

[–]b0w3n 27 points28 points ago

And probably involve nanotechnology and have the side effect of immortality.

[–]YouListening 15 points16 points ago

I'm cool with it.

[–]skarface6 3 points4 points ago

Too bad we'll all go crazy long while our bodies are still young.

[–]yip_yip_yip_uh_huh 11 points12 points ago

What if the cure for crazy is locked up in the brain of someone who can't afford an education?

[–]yourbuddyjoe 4 points5 points ago

And quantum computers. Don't forget those.

[–]addctd2badideas 3 points4 points ago

Almost every scientific discovery is not made in a vacuum. Hawking, Newton and Einstein all continued work from previous generations. We've managed to effectively treat (and in a some cases, nearly cure) AIDS in the last 25 years, a disease that had scientists baffled at first.

But the writer's heart is in the right place. We still need more and more people in science research and funding to continue their work.

[–]Agnostalypse 9 points10 points ago

Just gonna throw this out there, considering how much reddit loves to hate on christians- this argument is about as retarded as the "abortion shouldn't be legal because we might accidentally abort the person who cures cancer." This is basically predestination bullshit....

[–]perri93 17 points18 points ago

they can write it on their mcdonalds application

[–]welp_that_happened 62 points63 points ago

This is similar to an argument I have heard from pro-lifers... "what if the person who was supposed to find the cure for cancer was aborted?"
I think seeing it both ways is kind of dumb.. you can apply that argument to almost anything. "What if I was supposed to be the guy that cured cancer, but instead I went into IT? Oh no!"

[–]WhoAreYouWhoAmI 71 points72 points ago

What if the person who was supposed to cure cancer had to drop out of school and raise a baby?

[–]b0w3n 17 points18 points ago

What if the person who was supposed to cure cancer died from complications from pregnancy or childbirth?

[–]Gorignak 34 points35 points ago

What if they died from cancer?

[–]b0w3n 16 points17 points ago

Well that'd certainly be ironic.

[–]steviesteveo12 2 points3 points ago

And, based on the stats, depressingly probable, as well.

[–]victordavion 7 points8 points ago

It's called predestination. It was the center piece to early Protestantism ( namely Calvinists ). Basically it's all bullshit and more modernized religions don't believe in it anymore.

What I'm saying is that predestination doesn't exist, because both the ideas of total free will and determinism discredit the possibility of predestination. In the world of free will, no one is assigned anything at birth. Opportunities exist that are available to whoever can get there first, but everyone starts off at a different line, so to speak. And determinism would say that it's impossible to interfere with what is going to happen so if someone didn't cure cancer then they never could have no matter what because there was only one available outcome and that is guaranteed to occur.

Basically it's impossible to abort the next Einstein.

[–]yip_yip_yip_uh_huh 6 points7 points ago

I'm sorry, I just can't comprehend what you're saying until I see a picture of it written on a door frame.

[–]will_holmes 10 points11 points ago

"What if Hitler was aborted?"

[–]RobinTheBrave 14 points15 points ago

Just about every alternate history novel agrees that someone else with fewer character flaws would have taken his place, and not micro-managed his way to defeat in WWII

[–]TROLOLERT 4 points5 points ago

So basically there'd be no Jews, and we'd all be eating schnitzel and wearing lederhosen?

[–]darkshaddow42 2 points3 points ago

It's simple, we stop WWI instead. Then Hitler has no platform and the Russians aren't as angry. Success!

[–]Beakerbite 3 points4 points ago

Then spirit Hitler would have hijacked another body.

[–]RobinTheBrave 3 points4 points ago

What if the mother sorted her life out and a few years later had a different child instead, who had much better life chances and went on to cure cancer?

[–]yourbuddyjoe 3 points4 points ago

The problem with the argument is that it is retarded.

[–]Rajio 19 points20 points ago

What if this made sense?

[–]im_too_literal 6 points7 points ago

This kind of logic is so faulty.

A true "cure" for cancer will never exist. It's a difficult thought to wrap my mind around, particularly as I will be losing a friend to cancer before the end of the year, short of a miracle.

But beyond that, it ignores the fact that there are so many serious problems in life that could theoretically be solved, but they require very intense and varied education. The person who solves the oil crisis will not likely be the same person who comes up with a 100% successful cancer treatment. Train everyone to "cure" cancer, and then no one will be able to fix the oil crisis or develop substitutes for rare minerals used in technology.

It also ignores the fact that every individual has the right to make their own life path choices. A person may be capable of becoming a doctor, but that doesn't mean that he has to or should. Maybe he'd be more content being an electrician or a farmer; the world needs electricians and farmers too.

[–]cheepdogg 6 points7 points ago

Better yet, what if the cure for cancer were trapped in the mind of someone who just wastes their life and education surfing on the internet all day?

[–]Dick_Serious 13 points14 points ago

What if reddit went one day without having retarded posts like this?

What if man!?

[–]wsfarrell 4 points5 points ago

What if someone wrote a letter to the editor instead of defacing public property?

[–]KamiTozzi 3 points4 points ago

What if the cure for cancer is written on a wall somewhere in blue sharpie, and just no one has found it yet?

[–]Awesomeade 3 points4 points ago

What if that's not how the brain works? Because it isn't.

[–]OMGitsted 3 points4 points ago

if you can't get a scholarship you probably won't find the cure for anything

[–]HampeMannen 3 points4 points ago

That's not how research works.

[–]lewavvy 5 points6 points ago

positive cynicism

[–]Achalemoipas 2 points3 points ago

I say we kill that person to examine its brain immediately.

[–]ser_dhusti 2 points3 points ago

What if it was inside the mind of a fetus that got aborted?

Or maybe both of these scenarios are dumb arguments?

[–]akiiler 0 points1 point ago

What if one of those babies that were aborted would have gone to create a cure.. what if man..

[–]bombproof 2 points3 points ago

Abe Lincoln was poor and scraped his way to fixing slavery by borrowing books...

[–]dre__ 0 points1 point ago

Knock knock. Who's there. Weed. Weed who? Weedontneededucation.

[–]Marmaladegrenade 0 points1 point ago

What if the next serial murderer is a quadriplegic?!

[–]shmoove_cwiminal 5 points6 points ago

I would love to live in a world where everything was pre-destined. What a magical place it would be. No thinking required.

[–]Untz234 5 points6 points ago

What if you were retarded?

[–]Friendshipcore 4 points5 points ago

That can be put different too. What if Hitler couldn't afford food and starved to death?

[–]phuckHipsters 2 points3 points ago

Anyone who is capable of formulating a cure for cancer is definitely smart enough to find a way to fund their education.

[–]St-Polo 2 points3 points ago

Science is discovered not created, it can't be trapped in someone mind. But, someone with the ability to find it could not afford education.

[–]jayem711 0 points1 point ago

What if they got a pell grant and /or worked through college or started at a small community college. Theen they can cure cancer....and aids

[–]theGreatGoodbye 2 points3 points ago

My community college tuition has gone up 70% since Obama took office... That is what's weird.

[–]yip_yip_yip_uh_huh 7 points8 points ago

In other news about things that are unrelated, I've typed four responses in this thread since my dog has started snoring.

[–]Highpower1 0 points1 point ago

What if it is trapped in the mind of a fetus about to be aborted?

42 Million abortions world wide every year. I wonder what we have lost in the name of choice.

[–]TheRedGerund 2 points3 points ago

YOU MEAN LIKE 1,000 HITLERS?/???!?!?!

[–]speatears 1 point2 points ago

inception.

[–]netraven5000 1 point2 points ago

Maybe if they sold their idea about how to cure cancer, they'd have the money to go to school.

[–]bjt23 0 points1 point ago

I would downvote because of how preachy this is but I do believe in an even playing field as far as education goes...

[–]NullNephilim 0 points1 point ago

Isn't this analogous to a profile argument? http://jgscroggins.hubpages.com/hub/A-Cure-For-Cancer-Aborted

[–]senjutsuka -2 points-1 points ago

Also, what if we've found multiple methods that cure cancer but they dont get funded b/c its not as profitable as long term multi-medicine treatments?

[–]giveitago 1 point2 points ago

What if the cure for cancer is locked in the gene record of a plant species that we made extinct?

[–]Toby-one 1 point2 points ago

Cancer is such a wide range of disease that there can never really be a single miracle cure for it so don't worry about it.

[–]daisydelafuente 0 points1 point ago

Gerson therapy.

[–]benalpert 1 point2 points ago

Too... many... hypotheticals...

[–]newgirl07 -1 points0 points ago

My heart goes out to those in countries where you have to pay thousands of dollars to get a higher education. In Australia, all we have to do is get a good enough score in high school and we're in! No paying for our degrees untill we make over a certain amount of money a year, then they take small fortnightly payments! Even if you get a degree but don't earn over the set amount, you won't have to pay for it...

[–]RidgeegdiR 0 points1 point ago

Its def not, only smart people discover new things.

[–]jargonista 1 point2 points ago

Not to be a jerk, but probably not. Science, especially biology and especially cancer biology, is bloated right now with excess graduates. We already have our pick of the litter getting meaningful positions. What we need is more positions, not more scientists.

Then we'll talk.

Source: I'm a biologist.

[–]tagrav -1 points0 points ago

I like to believe that it's already been created. But it's just not profitable enough.

Just lost my dad to a year long struggle with lung & liver cancer. Cancer makes a lot of money. One of his prescriptions was for something called Samsca a pill used to help raise his sodium levels. The prescription for a month was ~$23,000. He was on it for about 5 months.

After his death my mom had a full unused box sealed and even the pills are in sealed packets and she could not return them. What a waste of money. I wish she could've just given them to some cancer patient out there that might need them and can't afford it. Luckily my dad's insurance paid for most of it.

[–]DooDooBrownz 1 point2 points ago

what if people didn't write stupid shit on public property?

[–]SleeplessinOslo -1 points0 points ago

What if there are countries out there where education is practically free... wait, there are

[–]Keltaris 0 points1 point ago

I understand the cure to cancer depends on people liking sob story statuses and images on Facebook

[–]eazolan 0 points1 point ago

How does an Art history major come up with the cure to cancer?

Not all education is equal.

[–]PhylisInTheHood 0 points1 point ago

What if black holes aren't really singularities, but God doing a goatsee

[–]Only1Andrew 1 point2 points ago

What if I told you there is a cure to breast cancer but Susan G Komen uses the money they receive to find a cure to prevent the cure from being put out, and they also use the money they receive from donors to sue anybody else earning money for a cure. What if I told you, they don't want to release the cure because then the money stops.

[–]dilkington11 0 points1 point ago

Bathroom philosopher

[–]baddabuddah 1 point2 points ago

First read "what if the cunt ..."

[–]Zach2012ster 0 points1 point ago

What if the cure for cancer was already discovered and destroyed what if 9/11 was an attack upon ourselves to gain oil and increase security what if marijauna is not as bad for you as alcohol, what if nikola Teslas labarotory was destroyed after discovering free energy

[–]yourbuddyjoe 0 points1 point ago

Science doesn't work like that. Discoveries are rarely independent. Multiple people will get to the same solution, it's just a matter of time. The guy who gets there first gets recognized and remembered for it but that is it.

[–]hitlerwasright 0 points1 point ago

Bullshit.

Isaac Newton didn't have access to education because the black plague killed all of his teachers. And he turned out ok.

You can buy used physics textbooks dirt cheap on Ebay. You can't get knowledge from school... you can only get information.

If a poor person is ignorant, it's because they want to be.

[–]IgnatiousReilly 0 points1 point ago

What if... the cure for cancer is trapped inside the mind of an aborted fetus?

[–]hotcod 0 points1 point ago

Science is trying to build an working understanding of the "truth" of nature by applying the scientific method and building models of it. Even if there was simply "a cure for cancer" then that cure exist independently of any one person and will be discovered eventually as understanding moves forward.

There's a scientist who gave up on science and became a novelist because he felt that anything he could discover could and would be discovered by other people while anything he wrote would be uniquely his. Which is a shame really, it's true but there's got to be something in being the first person to have uncovered a new bit of reality to have understood the universe better in that way than any one else... unless some one else happens to have come up with the idea at the same time. Like the case of Darwin and Wallace, if something had happened to Darwin before he developed his theory then we'd still have had evaluation by natural selection discovered at the same time.

It's odd in that some times in that it's just seems to be the "right time" for an idea. All the building blocks of steam power that kick started the industrial revolution where present in ancient Greece and Rome but no one really put two and two together other than using it for party tricks likes opening heavy temple doors which was clear proof that steam could do work! But still it's just a case of individual effort towards progress being a case of timing more than anything.

Still the underlying idea here is fine, the more we educate people and the more people who can do research the quicker a "cure" is likely to pop up.

[–]Lykoaster 0 points1 point ago

Then it looks like we ain't gettin' that cure for cancer...

[–]MisterUnoriginal 0 points1 point ago

What if the cure for cancer has already been found multiple times only to be suppressed?

[–]FakeSpellingErrors 0 points1 point ago

Just to help out the cause: MEME

[–]Theoriginaldank 0 points1 point ago

Because knowledge is innate... trapped in our minds until school pull is out.

[–]seweroutlet 0 points1 point ago

What if aliens landed and gave us the cure to cancer??

What if celebrities are all correct about politics?

What if using the words, "what if" mean absolutely nothing sometimes on how the world works?

[–]sometimesijustdont 0 points1 point ago

I thought we already have a cure for cancer. You program viruses to attack the particular type of cancerous cells you have. The viruses self destruct after their job is done. Cancer cured.

[–]johnnyonthespot6 0 points1 point ago

what if the cure for cancer is something other than RADIATION and POISON

the cure for cancer has been known for a long time, by PhD's, who use natural herbs. If they get caught, they go to prison.

wake the fuck up.

[–]Ror-sirent 0 points1 point ago

Ideas are not confined in one persons mind. They are universal, you just need someone who can find them. That could be anyone that tried hard enough. Someone without an education isn't eligible.

[–]ConorMaximus -1 points0 points ago

"Its their own fault. They shouldn't have been born into a poor family" - Mitt Romney

[–]yerm620 0 points1 point ago

What if... the cure for cancer is trapped inside the mind of someone who was aborted?

[–]jamheldion 0 points1 point ago

Conversely: What if the key to the destruction of all life on earth is trapped inside the mind of someone who can't afford an education?

[–]stikdude 0 points1 point ago

By making a statement like this, you are then a person that believes in fate. If, then you are accepting that such a thing exists, consider this:

The person who cannot afford an education does not have the cure for cancer trapped in their mind. Or, rather, it would be better if we accepted that that cure will never be known, because they can't afford an education. They will never cure cancer, as it does not exist in their fate. I have the same argument for people that ask, "What if that aborted child would have cured cancer?" They wouldn't have. Their fate was to not live, not to cure cancer.

[–]GruntyLover 0 points1 point ago

Then move to Denmark where education is free..

[–]tsilb 0 points1 point ago

These people are treating a symptom. Race for the cause, not just the cure. Cancer was almost unheard of 100 years ago; let's prevent it in the first place.

[–]gator_bites 0 points1 point ago

What if there is a cure, and they government keeps it to control population (like aids"

[–]automaticmane 1 point2 points ago

or inside the mind of someone who is a fucking camel.

[–]sittty 1 point2 points ago

[–]griffith12 0 points1 point ago

It's most likely locked inside a safe. If a cure for cancer came out it would be far to expensive for anyone to afford because it would have to offset the amount of money they can take from you over the course of repeated radiation treatments and surgeries, etc.

[–]shadytradesman 0 points1 point ago

I'm not sure that's how ideas work.

[–]JROXZ 0 points1 point ago

What if a single metastatic/angiogenic/oncogenic off switch was trapped inside the mind of someone who can't afford an education.

[–]Salmonbread 0 points1 point ago

It goes without saying that it takes hard, consistent work to achieve anything worthwhile. Genius is not miraculously knowing every answer, and people that entertain this concept in the context of themselves are supremely arrogant. Genius is knowing that with investigation comes discovery, and that it is up to the individual to do what others will not.

[–]shibalover19 1 point2 points ago

That person can get a job and work his way though college like most of do.

[–]TheRealTres -1 points0 points ago

besides the fact we have a cure for cancer already.

[–]snarik 1 point2 points ago

As a cancer researcher makes me really disgruntled.

Herp derp, ima curin yer cancerz.

[–]EricLe 1 point2 points ago

Actually the cure for cancer exists. It's trapped inside the hands of the illuminati.

[–]shibalover19 -1 points0 points ago

Gardasil (an immunization) prevents 75% of the cases of cervical cancer & 90% of the cases of external genital warts. Yes, we have an immunization that prevents cancer!

[–]TheWiseDevil 0 points1 point ago

Ayep. People and their familes and friends will just continue to suffer until that question is put to rest.

[–]Ferret_Lord_Brent 0 points1 point ago

I don't think this person understands how knowledge works.

[–]NazzerDawk 0 points1 point ago

The only options for getting rid of cancer are cutting it out and treating it chemically (chemo), so every cure will be some variation on those themes. Nanorobots that identify cancer cells and excise them is a variation of "cut it out", a super-chemical that targets nothing but cancer cells would be a variation on chemo.

So no, the idea that a person would have "floating about in their head" while uneducated wouldn't be a specific way to manufacture nanorobots or the method for engineering a chemical. Those things are the result of educated work, not simple idle consideration and thought-experiment. You don't just "come up" with a process like that, you come up with "what if we have a special radiation that only effects cancer cells?"

But anyway, the whole concept of someone having an idea already but not having the education to put it out there is nonsense by itself, it's not like every idea you will ever have is stored in your brain, waiting to be accessed by your consciousness when you get to the right level of education or something. Ideas are the product of an educated brain's processes.

EDIT: Oh, and radiation, but one could argue that is another form of "cutting it out".

[–]TheSherbs 1 point2 points ago

What if the best shot we have at a cure for cancer goes unfunded because the people behind the knowledge made it publicly available and because of that the people with the money ignore it because they can't patent it and make money?

[–]2hot2sexy4u 1 point2 points ago

he wouldn't need an education. didn't you watch good will hunting? HOW DO YOU LIKE THEM APPLES?

[–]scales484 0 points1 point ago

I feel like it's probably not...

[–]Friiy 1 point2 points ago

Hopefully he/she would be motivated enough to work 2 jobs to afford college, not get knocked up, not smoke up their paycheck in weed, hang out with the wrong people. ...... Or lament about "woe is me", think themselves a poet and write on walls....

[–]mygolly 1 point2 points ago

What if solutions already exist and people are too scared of the unfamiliar to search out truths

[–]SidneyDavis 0 points1 point ago

Unfortunately, education as we know it is not the process of learning to think. It is the process of imparting knowledge. If the current level of knowledge does not contain a "cure for cancer", then educating someone will be ineffective in dealing with that degenerative disease.

[–]SpecializedBiker 1 point2 points ago

What if the cure for cancer is in a child's brain that won't be born because of an abortion?

[–]AxeManActual 1 point2 points ago

What if war kills, like, 100 Einsteins a year, man?

[–]ivebeenhereallsummer 1 point2 points ago

What if the next Hitler was prevented from gaining power because he was not educated? Poor education saved us all from WWIII.

[–]Wolfman87 1 point2 points ago

That is retarded. There's no one magical person who will discover something. Maybe it will come sooner but it's not like there are these magical key people that if killed or held back will bring progress to a grinding halt.

[–]supn9 0 points1 point ago

We need a "What if" dance off gif!

[–]V4refugee 0 points1 point ago

What if the answer to one of the greatest math theorems could have been calculated by my computer?

[–]Irrelevant_muffins 0 points1 point ago

Someone once explained cancer to me as an evolution of cells that our body could not handle. Ever since I can't think of cancer as anything but a really fucked up X-Men character.

[–]Michael_LaPorte 0 points1 point ago

What if it was in the mind of a baby that was aborted?

[–]WhyIsItRainingAgain 0 points1 point ago

why do people randomly underline seemingly random words in a phrase? is it for emphasis or something? its something i never understood and absolutely hate. can someone explain that to me?

[–]chaklong 0 points1 point ago

This is related to my theory that there are hundreds of potential Einsteins dying over in Africa everyday.

[–]SOUTHPAWMIKE 1 point2 points ago

I appreciate the sentiment here, but realistically, if someone poorly educated, what is the actual chance they would have a working understanding of the mechanisms of most common cancer types? Wouldn't an education be the key to knowing enough about cancer to combat it? I think it's ridiculous to conjecture that someone could be in a situation where they are illiterate (read: incapable of expressing their ideas due to illiteracy) but are also somehow educated enough to figure out a "cure."

[–]gambit87 0 points1 point ago

Fuck them, everyone knows only rich people have ideas! - Mitt Romney

[–]legion02 0 points1 point ago

Then we cut that motherfucker open...

[–]err4nt 0 points1 point ago

How many geniuses who could propel us into prosperity, musical prodigies who can heal the world through song, great artists who can inspire generations of new creativity - how many of those people that started life have been silently snuffed out because of abortion?

Just one of the thoughts that occurred to me that I can't find an answer for yet, but it makes me sad to think about. I know many people say it's a woman's right and such, but it's a woman's choice not to engage in activity that results in conception - it's not entirely fair to punish another person so severely for a miscalculation or lapse in self-control on your end. Can you imagine any other law allowing you to take life away from another person at your whim for any other reason? I can understand why people feel how they feel when they have an unwanted pregnancy, but that's life (in more ways than one). I can't understand how the law exists the way it does now, it baffles me.

[–]PhotoShopNewb 1 point2 points ago

This argument could be made against abortion too.

[–]Dutyxfree 0 points1 point ago

I see this as an epistemological contradiction.

[–]Lonewolf2692 0 points1 point ago

A believe this comment is a contradictory... silly uneducated people.

[–]FokJulleNaaiers 0 points1 point ago

What if the cure for cancer was written on the back of the Declaration of Independence?

[–]mch026 0 points1 point ago

This quote makes me think of Sylar from Heroes...

[–]CaliGolden_bear 0 points1 point ago

Eh all in good time. We don't want everybody educated quite yet

[–]CharlieTango 0 points1 point ago

Well thats not possible since someone without an education would have no idea how the science behind cancer research works

[–]eacxxxz -1 points0 points ago

There are cures for cancer... But they're trapped inside the minds of people who can't figure out how to make them profitable enough.

[–]enkrypt0r 0 points1 point ago

I appreciate the sentiment, but things like this bother me in much the same way that the whole, "If you don't way abortion/gay marriage, then don't get one" mentality. Of course I suppose abortion and gay marriage, but there are zero people who think that anyone wants to force any individual to get one, nullifying the whole argument.

In much the same way, this says that we sound fund education better (which we should), but it is ridiculously unlikely that a single person will cure cancer. Even if it were, it would not be the result of some genetic predisposition to figuring out how to cure cancer. Figuring out something like that will be the result of research which could be carried out by many capable people. If we went back in time and stopped Alexander Fleming from inventing penicillin, it's not as if no one would've figured it out. It would've been someone else, maybe a little while later, but it would've happened nonetheless.

tl;dr I don't care if I agree with you, if you're making a shitty argument then you're making a shitty argument.

[–]areels 0 points1 point ago

I think i have it trapped in my brain, i believe i worth to give a try