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[–]BaconMasherz 168 points169 points ago

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand old.

[–]Venjamin 39 points40 points ago

Still causes a headache.

[–]i_poop_mcdonalds 3 points4 points ago

those are the type of people you want to find...and shove a science/biology book down there throats, while you shake them vigorously.

[–]psychroclasm 18 points19 points ago

I'm reading your name, and I can't tell if I should be craving mashed potatoes and bacon, or some sort of bacon-flavored paste.

[–]WeLoveKanjimari 1 point2 points ago

I read it and realized that it would be pretty weird to meet a guy named benjamin who was really into I Love Lucy and insisted he be called Vitameatabenjamin

[–]didntVoteObama 0 points1 point ago

I watched that show alot as a kid, caught the Vitameatavegamin reference, and my middle name is Benjamin. Do I win?

[–]i_poop_mcdonalds 1 point2 points ago

the internet is yours.

[–]BaconMasherz 1 point2 points ago

Obviously you crave Bacon and Eggs with some brown beans on the side.

Mmmh... Bacon.

[–]AliasSigma 89 points90 points ago

It's like in pokemon right? You just magically transform in a flash of light? That's why zoos are closed at night. The monkeys only evolve into humans at night.

[–]Fckthis 9 points10 points ago

Wait wait wait... if sandshrew evolves into sandslash, but sandshrew are still around.. maybe humans did evolve!

[–]ChickinSammich 16 points17 points ago

Nah, they have a bunch of zoo employees who keep mashing the B button to stop the monkeys from evolving. That's why monkeys don't evolve in zoes (who would pay to see a people ehxibit when they can watch reality TV), and yet all of the parts of the world with monkeys and no hospitals... babies are born in hospitals, and with no hospitals around and no one to press the B button, the monkeys evolve into humans.

Sorry; I thought I was on /r/shittyaskscience for a minute there.

[–]AliasSigma 3 points4 points ago

... wait, this isn't r/pokemon?!

[–]redditisenjoyable 138 points139 points ago

I swear not all Christians are this stupid

[–]Bloedbibel 85 points86 points ago

I'd go one further and say most are not this stupid. But that small percent brings the average waaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy down.

[–]thebooknerdkid 35 points36 points ago

I've had people who have known me for a while and like me just fine, then when they find out I'm Catholic, they completely change their opinion of me because now, thanks to the crazy Christians in the world, they think I'm gonna quote the Bible at them and tell them they're going to hell :[

[–]WhipIash 3 points4 points ago

But if you don't believe that, you're not really catholic, though, now are you?

[–]thebooknerdkid 23 points24 points ago

Actually, I attended Catholic school all my life and in high school, they taught us Evolution in Science Classes. It's a lot "messier" then me saying yes or no but the Catholic Church has been in debate about the different theories as to how we're here. I do know that some time in high school was when the Pope said that Evolution is a thing. I was always taught that the Bible was something to base your life on, not to take it word for word. My aunt is a nun and she believes in this thought process. If you're horribley bored, google evolution and the Catholic Church. I cannot speak for all Christians since the Pope is only... The Pope (lack of a better explanation?) to us Catholics.

But yeah, for the past 100 years, the thoughts have changed a bit. Most of the huge fanatics that get media coverage (i.e. Westboro Baptist Church) tend to be some other branch of Christianity. I will say that my Baptist family isn't very keen on me talking about evolution as if it's a fact. My Catholic family agrees with it... With exception to my 91 year old grandmother who still thinks that women shouldn't wear pants... You can't please everyone ;]

[–]JesusDidTheBlueMeth 17 points18 points ago

For the record, there is only one theory as to how we humans got here...the Theory of Evolution. None of the other ideas that have been proposed (e.g., creationism, intelligent design, etc.) come remotely close to being correctly referred to as a theory. A theory refers to a body of ideas backed by mountains of evidence.

[–]stef47aries 11 points12 points ago

I always find this to be helpful.

http://i.imgur.com/8RPYP.png

[–]007JamesBond007 4 points5 points ago

So many quotation marks...

[–]stef47aries 3 points4 points ago

and A LOT OF THESE*****

[–]BrittonB 4 points5 points ago

And a lot of sense.

[–]charlieDaEnt 1 point2 points ago

May I have a picture of your grandmother?

[–]Asplundh 4 points5 points ago

Dresses, idiot.

[–]rockmediabeeetus 1 point2 points ago

I like you.

[–]thebooknerdkid 0 points1 point ago

aw well thanks. I'll go on a limb and say I like you too.

[–]rockmediabeeetus 0 points1 point ago

Well thank you. :)

Would you like to have sexual relations now?

[–]biitchhplease 1 point2 points ago

Are you me?

[–]Salva_Veritate 2 points3 points ago

Yeah, well their bitch asses haven't learned perspective yet. I used to be sort of like that when I was 15. Then I gradually grew less stupid until I moved to the sticks for college, where a lot of religious people live. I became unstupid really fast when I found my new friends casually discussing how they're going to church for the second time that week, almost seamlessly transitioning to stories about how they get blind drunk in a bar with their priest on a regular basis and go home with mediocre-looking fat chicks.

So yeah, it gets better.

[–]boohoohoo2u 1 point2 points ago

If you told me that then it would probably cause me to chill the relationship somewhat too in all honesty (shallow as that is), or maybe reconsider how I am viewed by you. Not completely change my opinion of you, but certainly re-evaluate it.

[–]moleratical 1 point2 points ago

I kind of get taken aback by evangelicals but I have never given a second thought to someone who is catholic. Maybe because all of the catholics I have known have been drinking buddies.

[–]thebooknerdkid 0 points1 point ago

Fair enough. As long as you don't stop being my friend or you lecture me on how organized religion is stupid or something, we're good :)

[–]boohoohoo2u 1 point2 points ago

I wouldn't lecture you, but may distance myself.

I'll give a (slightly) more complete explanation, skip it if it seems like lecturing :)

It would primarily give me cause for concern because I'm gay, and if you tell me you believe the catholic ethos then that is giving your support to an organisation that actively attempts to force society to treat me like shit. You are essentially saying your views are in accordance with the RC church.

[–]thebooknerdkid 0 points1 point ago

Ahh see, my Catholic nun aunt is close friends with a gay couple and my godmother is gay. It's hard for me to explain my beliefs because I was raised in such an open minded family.

[–]boohoohoo2u 0 points1 point ago

Then we would probably be cool. It is only an issue because when you label yourself Catholic, people will make a mental connection between you and their perspective on Catholicism. Your perspective could be completely different, or you may not follow the Catholic view on all issues. It is impossible for us to tell.

[–]thebooknerdkid 1 point2 points ago

Ah, exactly. I think it has to do with being raised in the Bay Area of California too. Everyone's so liberal so it's like two things collided and created my sister and me and we both think in very similar ways. Honestly though, if I had not been raised Catholic, I probably would not be Catholic. I like how the stories made me a good person but I don't like how some people read the same stories and are like, "See, gay people are evil". Sometimes I feel like there are two versions of the Bible. The version I was taught and the version that all the crazies read. Pfft.

[–]boohoohoo2u 0 points1 point ago

Honestly though, if I had not been raised Catholic, I probably would not be Catholic.

You would according to them. I was raised catholic, and one of many defectors in Ireland due to the behaviour of the church (which was really, really terrible to a lot of innocent people here). In 2010 the catholic church removed the process, so people could no longer leave and have their name removed from the baptismal register.

I'm not sure if this only affected Ireland because of the numbers leaving the church, or if it was a global change to canon law, but Irish catholics are not allowed leave the catholic church any more.

For the bible, I think there are as many versions as there are people who read it. It is so open to interpretation that people can start with any morals and find something to back them up. The stories didn't make you a good person, you already were.

*edit: actually if you were not raised catholic, you would never be catholic and wouldn't need to defect. I am an idiot.

[–]DoesNotChodeWell 0 points1 point ago

The same could be said of humanity in general.

[–]redditisenjoyable 0 points1 point ago

I'd agree with that

[–]Tolma 11 points12 points ago

Hey, for once i recognized a repost! I feel like a true redditor now.

[–]dmgb 1 point2 points ago

I know that feel, bro.

[–]HilariousB 17 points18 points ago

She totally Britta'd that status

[–]Rekpar3 5 points6 points ago

Ugh... Britta's in this?

[–]nordegrafgaming 1 point2 points ago

Goddammit good sir, i totally came here to post something community related, and in my earnest i totally did.

[–]kopite_elite 58 points59 points ago

You mean people in America actually believe in creationism? I thought it was a joke you all played on none Americans like the Japanese do with eating with chopsticks.

[–]Jekktis 17 points18 points ago

Assuming you're referring to the same group of people who think the earth is 6000 years old, they do exist, but people who talk about them on the internet (especially reddit) tend to exaggerated how many people believe in that.

I live in the south, where beliefs outside of Christianity are rare, and I have yet to meet a single creationist. Most Christians in America aren't that dumb. Granted, they still take the part about hell-fire literally without considering what the original text actually said, but that is a different discussion entirely. And this is not /r/atheism or /r/Christianity

EDIT: I stand corrected, there are more Creationists in this country then I thought. Still, the article SlugsOnToast linked leaves out an option. It assumes any Christian that doesn't believe in evolution is a creationist, which is not true. There are plenty of Christians I know of that do not believe in the Hominid to Homosapien part of evolution, but believe the earth to be as old as scientists say it is.

The Christians that are the loudest about their beliefs tend to be the dumbest.

[–]this_man_loves_trees 5 points6 points ago

I also live in the south, and I can vouch for all of this being rampant in these parts.

[–]theatrebum2014 2 points3 points ago

Yeah, I also live in the South. I know many creationists. I had a friend who dropped a biology course because it taught evolution. I also had three girls in an archaeology class who flipped out at the human evolution section being taught as "fact". There are also Christians who believe in evolution, but creationists do exist.

[–]SlugsOnToast 27 points28 points ago

It shifts from "funny" to "terrifying" pretty quickly when you realize that 46% of Americans believe this shit.

[–]frankthepieking 6 points7 points ago

The terrifying stat is the one that says 35% of people think that Darwin's theory is not supported by science where, clearly, they don't know enough to tell.

[–]Mubutu 22 points23 points ago

Man, that whole page was depressing.

Creationism, that is, the idea that God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years

Definitely True: 39%

ಠ_ಠ

[–]BrittonB 11 points12 points ago

That's more like the layman's definition of creationism. Scientists refer to creationists as those who "reject natural scientific explanations of a known universe in favor of a special creation by a supernatural entity."

[–]DingoManDingo 7 points8 points ago

Its funny how many people claim to be very familiar with the theory of evolution yet believe in creationism. I'm willing to bet their knowledge of it is lacking.

[–]biitchhplease 4 points5 points ago

I don't know if this will help, but I'm a Christian, and I believe in both of them simultaneously. I don't understand why it's so impossible for people to think God created everything in the beginning, and then he created life, and then life branched off in all different directions. I don't see why it's so "choose one or the other". But then again, I'm of the belief that you can't take everything in the Bible literally, it's more up to interpretation, so maybe those who take it word-for-word believe the world was created only a thousand years ago or whatever.

[–]chipnick87 2 points3 points ago

Creationism is the belief in God having created everything in its present state within the last 10,000 years. Intelligent design is the belief that God created everything. Evolution contradicts creationism, but not intelligent design.

Edit: At least, that's what it is according to the statistics in the page SlugsOnToast linked.

[–]biitchhplease 2 points3 points ago

I guess I believe in intelligent design. I couldn't read SlugsOnToast's link.

[–]llewesdarb 0 points1 point ago

Creationism was at one point split between "young Earth" and "old Earth," with Young Earth Creationists believing the world to be created 6,000 years ago and Old Earth Creationists sticking to the 6 billion mark. It really comes down to whether you view the "day" of Genesis is a 24-hour period or some cosmological unit of time that Old Testament God used before there was a universe.

I guess I'd never really noticed, but Intelligent Design seems to be the rebranding of Old Earth Creationists even if the term itself wouldn't limit the theory to the God of Genesis.

[–]brownsheets -1 points0 points ago

This may be shocking, but it's the same thing both ways.

[–]IamMNightShyamalan 2 points3 points ago

That poll doesn't seem too reliable

[–]BrittonB 3 points4 points ago

It's called "Religion." And yes, the majority of American's have it. I'm not religious, but let it be known that Evolution and Creationism are not mutually exclusive. Theoretically it is entirely possible for there to be a Divine Creator who allowed humans to evolve over the years via Natural Selection.

[–]solitaryman098 3 points4 points ago

let it be known that Evolution and Creationism are not mutually exclusive.

Well, that really depends what you mean by "creationism". Judging by the rest of your post I think you mean more along the lines of evolution guided by the hand of a creator, which, I agree, can be compatible with the theory of evolution.

But if creationism refers to literal young-earth creationism (less than 10,000) years old I would say that creationism and evolution are mutually exclusive.

[–]BrittonB 2 points3 points ago

You make a very valid point.

[–]SlugsOnToast -1 points0 points ago

Theoretically, unicorns could have existed. According to the literature I've read, they're very similar to regular domesticated horses except for the bony protrusion from their skulls. We are still discovering new species so it's entirely possible for there to be real, living unicorns right now.

The reality is that there is no scientific evidence of a unicorn ever having existed. No equine skeletons demonstrating unicorn-like protuberances have been found anywhere, ever. They exist only in story books, and painting & drawings, and stories that parents tell their children.

The fact of the matter is, if parents stopped telling the stories in the first place we could finally stop arguing about unicorns and get stuff done.

[–]BrittonB 0 points1 point ago

I wasn't aware creationism was stopping anyoe from "getting stuff done." It might create a few people who grow up with an atypical view of how the world came to be, but that doesn't sound too different to the way things are already.

[–]little_critter 0 points1 point ago

Nope, somehow we have people that grow up and never question the stuff. Especially in the southern states.

[–]Bardlar 18 points19 points ago

As a Christian, although I'm not 100% firm in my thoughts on the creation/evolution debate, I am firm in my thought that this person is ridiculously ignorant. Don't go to any class that has the potential to deal with the topic (science, social science, religion, theology, etc) unless you're prepared to listen to other peoples' opinions.

[–]iforgotmypen -5 points-4 points ago

spoiler alert

evolution is a fact, you don't have to believe it for it to be true

[–]Bardlar 8 points9 points ago

I said nothing about belief. I get a sense that you're hard Atheism, and hard science, which is cool with me, but you gotta leave room for others' thoughts and ideas, or people might perceive you to be equally as ignorant as the person in OP's post.

[–]iforgotmypen 10 points11 points ago

Leave room for the thoughts and ideas for others, of course. It's necessary to get along with people. But in a classroom? No. Not fucking ever. There's no room for superstition and creation myths in school, unless they are purely relegated to historical studies or religious studies.

[–]JesusDidTheBlueMeth 7 points8 points ago

This. As iforgotmypen stated, whether life evolved (and continues to evolve) is not up for debate. It did (and does), period. So yes, you absolutely are entitled to have your own opinions about things, but you are not entitled to your own facts.

[–]Jekktis -2 points-1 points ago

If you are referring to the fact that it is possible for animals to divide into subspecies, and evolve over time, then yes, that is a fact.

However, unless you're as old as the Face of Boe, there is no way of knowing with 100% certainty something that theoretically happened millions of years ago.

[–]David_Crockett -5 points-4 points ago

Not a fact. It's currently the best scientific explanation for the existence of the life forms. It could change in the future based on new information.

[–]JesusDidTheBlueMeth 4 points5 points ago

So could the Theory of Gravity. Or the Chromosomal Theory of Heredity. Or Cell Theory. Or Germ Theory. Or the Theory of Electromagnetism. Or.....

A theory is NOT a rung on some hierarchical ladder with "guess" at the bottom and "fact" at the top. Theories do not graduate to become facts. Rather, a theory is a body of ideas and knowledge grounded in facts.

[–]Strudol 1 point2 points ago

i dont know why you're getting downvoted dude, you make a valid point. As a Biology major, this happens all the time. the theory of Evolution wont change dramatically, but parts can be changed

[–]David_Crockett 0 points1 point ago

Thanks. Some people have their pre-formulated quips that they copy and paste to refute anti-evolutionists, I guess. And somehow I triggered a response from them when that wasn't my point at all.

[–]Strudol 0 points1 point ago

indeed. they just thought you were refuting evolution.

[–]David_Crockett 0 points1 point ago

Yarp.

[–]luvs_T0_spooge 5 points6 points ago

can we please discuss the irony of her being named Britta?

[–]lurker_becomes_lurkd 1 point2 points ago

We didn't evolve from monkeys.

[–]Strudol 0 points1 point ago

you are correct good sir. we evolved from a common ancestor.

[–]lurker_becomes_lurkd 0 points1 point ago

Exactly.

[–]PartTimeLegend 2 points3 points ago

We did not evolve from modern primates. The theory is that modern primates and modern humans shared a common ancestor. As genes are shared through the generations the mutations occur naturally.

At some point in history we likely all shared the same ancestor long before the human race and fish and monkeys and ants existed.

You can see adaptation and evolution in your own life time with your children and their children.

I'm a Christian and I believe not in creationism as a Adam and Eve and the trees and a animals were created. I believe in a touch to light the fuse that ignited the I universe. I am also open to the idea that our universe was created by nothing more than a firework on a plane above our own and the creator isn't aware of the particles being us. I simply believe in something more than us.

[–]Strudol 0 points1 point ago

good for you man, that was my world view before i went full atheist. I myself am "proof" of evolution, I was only born with 2 wisdom teeth instead of 4

[–]AshtrayPettingZoo 3 points4 points ago

i don't know why people can't believe in evolution and religion? maybe God started evolution. He's "all powerful" right? Why couldn't science be created by God? This is coming from a guy that doesn't really understand either.

[–]noyougirls 3 points4 points ago

The Facebook names can be read.

[–]JELLY__FISTER 7 points8 points ago

It doesn't matter, this is old as shit

[–]Lumiep 3 points4 points ago

[–]atalkingfish 36 points37 points ago

Yeah, because thinking that evolution is a legitimate scientific theory is totally restricted to atheists...

[–]mmine1 3 points4 points ago

Hey look, someone mentioned religion! Better tell him to go back to /r/atheism!

[–]iama_XXL 0 points1 point ago

Actually, this is why /r/TheFacebookDelusion was created. It is supposed to be the place that all religious facebook posts go.

[–]Sandbox47 2 points3 points ago

First time I read this I lold. Now it just makes me angrier and angrier to the point where my green, mean me punches me in the faces and craps all over the litter box.

[–]YAHOONATOR 2 points3 points ago

Repost bro.

[–]Kageyn -4 points-3 points ago

HAHA SOMEONE BELIEVES SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN I DO /FACEPALM

[–]mhacdebhandia 12 points13 points ago

It's not about their beliefs, as incorrect as they are. It's about the smugness with which they refer to the ignorance of a person who, unbeknownst to them, is the better-informed of the two if them.

In other words: what they said is dumb, but how they said it is truly moronic.

[–]lurker_becomes_lurkd -5 points-4 points ago

Kind of like your smugness that you believe they are wrong and you are right?

[–]theytook-r-jobs 3 points4 points ago

He knows they are wrong. Not believes.

[–]lurker_becomes_lurkd -1 points0 points ago

He believes they are wrong. He is wrong, and they are (partially) right. Humans did not evolve from monkeys. We evolved from a common ancestor that monkeys and apes evolved from. It was something like 30 million years ago when the split happened that resulted in the three groups.

[–]theytook-r-jobs 1 point2 points ago

Well, I'm pretty sure they aren't being taught that we come from monkeys, they just choose to be ignorant on the subject.

[–]lurker_becomes_lurkd -1 points0 points ago

Well he said "Maybe he evolved from a monkey, but I sure didn't!"

Unless I'm misunderstanding it, that implies the professor claims that humans evolved from monkeys (a common misconception regarding evolution).

[–]theytook-r-jobs 1 point2 points ago

Or more likely she was told that's what evolution was her whole life, or she saw a picture of a monkey/ape in the textbook/slideshow and doesn't know there is a difference. I'm more inclined to believe she is ignorant to the subject than that a qualified professor says we came from monkeys.

[–]lurker_becomes_lurkd -1 points0 points ago

There are a lot of ignorant professors. Being a professor doesn't automatically make you right. I'm playing the devil's advocate here, but educators aren't always right.

[–]theytook-r-jobs 0 points1 point ago

She is laughing at him for "believing" in evolution, and they are telling her to stay strong to her faith. Seems like she's an idiot brainwashed by religion, and she never actually listened to the evolution explanation given by him.

[–]mhacdebhandia 0 points1 point ago

I don't think it's comparable. I might be wrong about X or Y but at least I have reasonable evidence for thinking as I do. People who commit to irrational propositions have the right to do so but they ought to have the self-awareness to be a bit humble about their place out on a limb.

[–]drneanderthal 0 points1 point ago

Haha, Americans.

[–]swartzy_5659 -1 points0 points ago

I want to downvote this because it makes me angry, but I know I should upvote because the user is also angry.... Redditing is Tough :(

[–]brosenfeld 1 point2 points ago

Britta needs to go back to filtering water.

[–]recedingentity 0 points1 point ago

wow what an idiot.

[–]GEBnaman 0 points1 point ago

You're the worst!

[–]JanCarlo 1 point2 points ago

She's the worst!

[–]devilcraft 0 points1 point ago

Maybe we should make a parking lot out of America instead of the Middle East?

[–]Gravitasnotincluded 0 points1 point ago

what certainly doesn't fucking evolve is this subreddit

[–]mp51669 0 points1 point ago

Hey god makes a lot more sense. He created humans, and then added multiple organs that have little to no use that aren't essential to life. And he just keeps making flues that are more and more resistant, because he's an asshole.

[–]Brovakiin 0 points1 point ago

Choo choo repost train

[–]Toxicpopcorn 0 points1 point ago

THE IGNORANCE IT BURNS

[–]kitkat1928 1 point2 points ago

Of course her name was Brittany.

[–]ZeTeslaCat 0 points1 point ago

Heeeey. Not all brittanys are stupid.

[–]Gavalar 0 points1 point ago

I bet Shirley is happy that Britta has finally come to accept the ways of Christianity. :)

[–]StevenMunterK 0 points1 point ago

There is literally an entire subreddit for this over at /r/TheFacebookDelusion

[–]magnavoice 0 points1 point ago

Oh jeez he totally Brittad that.....smh

[–]OhaiItsAhmad 0 points1 point ago

"Different strokes for different folks". Some people believe one thing, some people don't. Now that I'm done teaching you kindergarten logic, get over it.

[–]TheWalrusLivesInMe -1 points0 points ago

Fake or or repost...

[–]daschnookle 0 points1 point ago

Asshole this needs to be in /r/thefacebookdelusion. Some Christians read /r/facepalm...

[–]samuraialien 1 point2 points ago

Are you saying Christians don't believe in evolution? o.O

[–]daschnookle 1 point2 points ago

A lot of them don't, some like I do (sortof. Like, I believe God created us in a smaller form, but then let us evolve on our own)

[–]samuraialien 0 points1 point ago

Probably depends on the Christian religion. I'm Roman Catholic and so many people give us shit because of misconceptions. One of the misconceptions people have is tbat they think we're against science or believe Adam & Eve were real. The Adam & Eve creation account isn't a church teaching and we fucking love science (a lot of miracles have to be proven by scientists, such as this Eucharist that bleeds blood and is still alive. The blood's from heart tissue from a middle eastern man, pretty fuckin' awesome, eh? Sorry that this is long). Anyways, most Catholics believe in evolution. But a lot of people don't know shit when they talk about evolution. I believe there were multiple species on earth, I think 3 or 4, and one of them broke off into primates and neanderthals who later evolved into humans.

[–]Strudol 0 points1 point ago

hold up a second. what are these miracles of which you speak? and what's a Euchrist?

[–]samuraialien 0 points1 point ago

Pretty sure you know because of your wording.

[–]Strudol 0 points1 point ago

Not sure what you mean. But i just googled Eucharist, and all it means is the holy communion. so i'm not quite sure what you meant. also i dont mean to sound rude, but do you have any sources to back up your claims?

[–]samuraialien 0 points1 point ago

Ah, my mistake then, thought you were being a bit sarcastic. This will sound fucking weird if you're not Catholic and it can be very hard to understand too. Eucharist, or holy communion, is bread (it's made in a certain way, it doesn't look like bread you buy at a store), and before Communion the priest blesses the wine and bread and the bread becomes the Flesh of Christ and the wine becomes the Blood of Christ. Again, this is hard to understand and sounds fucking weird if you're not Catholic. If you want to, go to a Roman Catholic church this Sunday and experience the Mass, but rememba', you can't receive Communion (the Eucharist or Wine), if you're not Catholic or haven't received First Communion yet. The Mass will probably seem confusing or weird to you. Catholicism is really fucking interesting if you get into more of it. Also, we're pretty pro-sex, if you like de sex. And just to get this misconception out of the way, the Catholic Church doesn't hate homosexuals. The Catholic Church even has homosexual members. Also, if you do go experience a Roman Catholic Mass and the priest seems weird or angry, don't assume all priests and Catholic churches are like that. Also make sure you go to an English mass, some Roman Catholic churches have Spanish and Latin Masses and those can get really confusing. The reason I'm saying Roman is because there's multiple rites by the way. Each rite of the Catholic Church is very different from each other, Roman's the most common rite and the simplest to understand and follow along with.

Here's some Miracles, they will probably seem fake or freaky to you, I don't blame you if you view them like that, a lot of stuff in the Catholic Church is unbelievable but true, such as exorcisms. 10 Astonishing Miracles, The Bleeding Host, or Eucharist, which I still bleeds, it's been tested on, and I think it might be available to the public to view. The bodies of some saints, who haven't decayed, are available for public viewing. I think one saint all of him is decayed except his tongue. Also, one of the coolest miracles you will ever hear of is the Stigmata. If you don't know what a Stigmata is, it's the wounds Jesus had when he was crucified. Some priest had them and surgeons tried to peek at them during a surgery and the guy refused to be drugged or anything so he could make sure the surgeons didn't do anything to his wounds, even through all that pain. The Stigmata also hurts a fuck lot, I heard. In Ripley's Believe It or Not book, this one there's a man with the Stigmata. If you still don't believe some stuff I'm telling you about the miracles, don't know if this would help, but every time a physical miracle occurs the miracle has to be scientifically proven before the Catholic Church can confirm it as a miracle. Hope all this interested you, and I hope you look into Catholicism. Really cool stuff. And just so you know, a majority of Catholics aren't "Jesus-freaks", like a lot of other Christian religions act like. We're pretty laid back too.

[–]Strudol 0 points1 point ago

Well, not gonna lie dude, i'm an atheist and a a skeptic. and I have never heard of any scientists that would substantiate these as miracles. there is a logical explanation for ever single one of those, if they are not entirely made up. sorry if i seem rude, i dont mean to offend.

[–]samuraialien 0 points1 point ago

I understand, I would be skeptical of it too. Miracles are really fucking hard to believe. I'm sure scientists would love to prove a miracle right or wrong too, you can do some research on some of the examinations/studies. But, how do you explain the Eucharist bleeding and containing living human heart tissue? I also understand the Atheism thing. When I was 14 it took me a while for me to decide if I was Atheist or Christian. Something turned me towards theology, don't know what, but my life has been better, less confusing, and less stressful ever since I've been more involved in theology. Every once in a while, like yesterday, I come to think again if God is real or not. I mean, how can some "guy" we can't see create the universe and always exist? It's just a mystery man, there's a lot of stuff in this world the mind just can't fucking grasp. It's like imagining what everything would be like with nothing in existence. But then I come to think all this stuff couldn't of been created without time being created, and just somehow what/who is known as God has always existed created time, then created the universe. I mean, without time a lot of creation theories couldn't of happened. Also, whenever I start having Atheistic questions or thoughts I usually think of the human body, how fucking complex and amazing it is, only a superb and unlimited being could make that. If you take the Big Bang theory, not sure if you believe it or not, just using it as a common example, that couldn't have been created without time existing in order for it to occur and time couldn't create itself. You might be thinking if that's true then God couldn't of created Himself. He didn't create Himself, because he's somehow always existed, which we just can't grasp. And the Big Bang couldn't have created a system like the human body. If you look at everything around you, whether it has the least importance or not, it depends on something and something depends on it. Only God could create a world where everything is intended to sync together and depends on each other, the Big Bang could not have put everything into function so perfectly. If you have any questions or anything, I'd be more than glad to respond to them from a Christian point of view. Also, I respect your beliefs very much, also respect you for not going apeshit like most Atheists do around Christians. That gets annoying, but I must admit though, Christians get equally annoying/disrespectful.

[–]thenamesjackson 1 point2 points ago

brittas the worst.

[–]beve21 -1 points0 points ago

Put this in /r/atheism where it belongs. I believe in evolution but I unsubscribed from that subreddit so I could stop seeing this.

EDIT: Yes, downvote me. This is only a facepalm if you believe in evolution. Which is the vast majority around here, but just because you don't believe in evolution does not make you stupid. Therefore, this is not a facepalm. Unless the definition of facepalm is something different than "stupid people on facebook".

[–]Shaby37 0 points1 point ago

I'm christian and I believe in evolution; I don't think it belongs in /r/atheism.

[–]beve21 0 points1 point ago

I'm not a christian and I believe in evolution; I don't think it makes you stupid to not believe in evolution

[–]Strudol 0 points1 point ago

i wouldn't call them stupid, but they're denying a well respected scientific theory with mounds of evidence backing it up.

[–]Strudol 0 points1 point ago

I agree it doesnt make you stupid, just ignorant of scientific facts.

[–]phlid0r 0 points1 point ago

So what. I believe in evolution, but some don't.

I don't get why this is a big deal.

Let people follow their own path...

[–]elcanovi 0 points1 point ago

Can't argue with that logic though.

[–]bulkygorilla 0 points1 point ago

The tide, it goes in and it goes out never a miscommunication you can't explain that.

[–]Kairick 0 points1 point ago

These things infuriate me to the point that I want to down vote.

[–]lebobathan 0 points1 point ago

ugh, idk why im subscribed to this subreddit. The stupidity just gets me worked up.

[–]skyairtime4 0 points1 point ago

brittas the worst

[–]4LostSoulsinaBowl 0 points1 point ago

As a Creationist, I would like to apologize for the stupider of our type. They do not necessarily represent us, and we find them as stupid as you.

[–]FkYou_iDoWhatiWant 0 points1 point ago

But..but science

[–]jaygoingup 0 points1 point ago

Faith in humanity gone forever

[–]impthapimp 0 points1 point ago

Peoples retardedness never seize to amaze me. Unfortunately religious nuts/extremists and low IQ people tend to produce more offspring. I guess we'll end up in a Idiocracy

[–]TheLactatingPickle 0 points1 point ago

Oh look it's religious people making fun of evolutionists just the exact way most atheists make fun of religious people.

[–]Eizooz 1 point2 points ago

Micro-evolution is proven (basically), macro is not. I personally believe in macro but neither side has any right to laugh at the other.

[–]APiousCultist 4 points5 points ago

They do when they dismiss a strong hypothesis in favour of nothing more than a blind assumption based on something someone once told them. Also the whole "evolved from monkeys" part.

[–]Kaerigan 1 point2 points ago

Isn't macro evolution just micro evolution over a long (like, really long) period of time?

[–]WhoMouse 2 points3 points ago

Yes.

The line between the two doesn't actually exist. They are the exact same thing observed over different periods of time.

[–]Eizooz 0 points1 point ago

Im saying we can almost directly observe species evolving within a species, and viruses mutating and the like but its impossible for us to watch a single cell evolve to a complex organism. Simply a time thing. Macro is cell to organism. Micro is it happening on any scale.

[–]WhoMouse 0 points1 point ago

Macro vs micro is usually explained by creationists as the difference between selective breeding (dogs, bananas, etc, where "they're still dogs!") and an animal changing to a different "type" (type meaning either species or something as stupid as reptile -> mammal in a few generations, depending on the creationist and what point they're trying to make).

For me, the most damning evidence against their "types" and macro/micro stuff is the existence of ring species.

But as far as understanding evolution from single cell to multi cellular, while I have heard this as a creationist point, I've never heard that be described as the macro/micro imaginary barrier. It's that they cannot deny the change within a species, but completely deny that a species can change into a different species ("species" here usually meaning "genus" or higher, but that's what you get from people with poor scientific understanding).

The difference between single cell and multi cellular is usually covered under the "irreducible complexity" umbrella.

[–]Eizooz 0 points1 point ago

If were talking my personal beliefs I believe god designed evolution and created some species directly and let others be created by evolution. I am just saying its impossible to "prove" large scale (calling it 'macro' is easier until you people get into semantics) evolution or the progression from basic cells capable of replication to complex organisms because we can't directly observe it. Is it likely? I sure think so.

[–]WhoMouse 0 points1 point ago

If were talking my personal beliefs I believe god designed evolution and created some species directly and let others be created by evolution.

Then how is it that every species is part of the same family tree? We should have some starting on a separate tree if that were the case. There's no evidence at all that there should be more than one tree, and there is genetic evidence that all current known forms of life branched from the same root. Unless you're just saying he guided some branches. That's fine to believe, as long as you remember that there's not any evidence for it. Heck, I don't mind that some people choose to believe that the earth is only 6,000 years old. They're free to believe it. It's the trying to force it on others that I despise.

I am just saying its impossible to "prove" large scale (calling it 'macro' is easier until you people get into semantics) evolution or the progression from basic cells capable of replication to complex organisms because we can't directly observe it.

You "prove" large scale evolution by studying genetics, DNA markers, fossils, etc. If we're talking humans specifically, here is as good a place as any to start. Just be sure to always follow the citations. (I can give you links to better explanations and evidence for just general evolution, or whatever else, if you would like, and talkorigins.org is a fantastic resource for researching the issue of creation vs. evolution and where the evidence lies)

Evolution, large scale or small, isn't just a guess. It's based on mountains of evidence. If the theory were thrown out, its replacement would still have to account for all of the fossil record, genetic record, and all of the other non-direct evidence that currently supports it, let alone account for the direct observation of changes.

Now, if you believe that a god, or gods, or aliens, or whatever directed evolution, fine! Believe that all you want. But to ask anyone else to believe it, and especially to teach it in schools, you need evidence (testable, repeatable, and verifiable) to back that idea up. The reason I've never had any issue whatsoever with someone believing that? Because they don't try to legislate what is taught in a science classroom based on their (misguided and ill-informed) beliefs about one biological theory.

Currently, creationists (the Young Earth kind) are completely skipping the need for evidence, and relegating everything to the realm of "belief". That's what they think the theory of evolution is supported with. That's why it's often called "Darwinism". Because they view it as a competing religious belief that they have to fight in the courtrooms, not as an extremely well supported scientific theory that they would have to fight through peer review.

The theory of evolution is arguably the best supported scientific theory. Better than the theory of gravity, better than atomic theory, better than the big bang theory, etc. Just remember that when it comes to the theory of evolution, it's no different than the other scientific theories out there: they all have to be very well supported by evidence. And while they're always able to be thrown out in the future based on new evidence (falsifiability is a wonderful thing), by the time they reach the status of theory it's very unlikely that they will be. On the other hand, if you do happen to overturn a theory, especially one as famous and well supported as evolution, you will become famous overnight, you will probably end up being incredibly rich, and you will be remembered throughout history (on the same terms as Galileo, Newton, Einstein, Darwin, etc). Makes you wonder why (again, specifically the Young Earth type) creationists haven't tried that route, doesn't it?

[–]Strudol 0 points1 point ago

Whales have feet and "finger" bones. Humans have the remnants of a tail. there are fish that can breathe in water AND on land. the evidence is all around you dude.

[–]falling2fast -1 points0 points ago

Didn't realize I has stumbled into r/atheism...

[–]Shaby37 2 points3 points ago

How is this /r/atheism ? I'm christian and i think this guy is an idiot

[–]exdirrk -1 points0 points ago

/r/atheism is leaking

Anyone seeking more info might also check here:

title comnts points age /r/
Are you fucking kidding me? 20coms 107pts 23dys atheism
I'm disappointed in my generation... 16coms 25pts 6mos atheism
Keep an eye on those monkeys.. 105coms 287pts 7mos atheism

source: karmadecay

[–]Huflungpu57 2 points3 points ago

Not sure if i should upvote because they're absolutely stupid, or downvote because they're absolutely stupid

[–]Kazundo_Goda -1 points0 points ago

DO you know what's frightening.What if aliens land and the first human contact we make is thorugh these knuckleheads.

[–]djsopkin -1 points0 points ago

They might get so disgusted they turn away and bomb our entire planet

[–]xanthus12 -3 points-2 points ago

Fuck, who knows, maybe the Aliens are God. We evolved on another planet, and they actually just dropped us here some 50 thousand years ago.

[–]sighborg21 4 points5 points ago

Nice try, Tom Cruise.

[–]xanthus12 2 points3 points ago

False. I am John Travolta.

[–]sighborg21 1 point2 points ago

False, you are John Travolta wearing Nicolas Cage's face.

[–]xanthus12 0 points1 point ago

Not true. I wouldn't touch that thing after the bees.

[–]77jamjam -3 points-2 points ago

This isn't a facepalm. It's just someone's belief. Although that guy is a dick .

[–]Tiv3z 1 point2 points ago

I dont even know why we get downvoted...

[–]vernscustoms -2 points-1 points ago

Ya what was the teacher thinking. Why didn't he pull out the book of fairy tails on how the earth was created in 6 days.... Oh ya separation of church and state.

[–]antsugi -4 points-3 points ago

this isn't a facepalm. all you're doing here is insulting someone's beliefs. He thinks the same way of evolution as you do about Christianity. I'm getting real tired of the amount of insensitivity here. If you want to mock other religions, there's a place for that, it's called /r/atheism. Believe what you want, you have the right, but don't insult another man's beliefs.

[–]BaadKitteh 3 points4 points ago

... I don't think you understand. Refusing to believe scientific fact because you think it threatens your religion is extremely facepalm-worthy. This person obviously sees "evolution" and thinks "people are monkeys" only, completely ignoring the many other aspects of evolution that are as proven as anything can be.

[–]antsugi 0 points1 point ago

Look, science can be proven time and time again, that doesn't bother me. Just keep religion out of this subreddit, if i wanted to read about religious beliefs i'd go to /r/Christianity or /r/Atheism

or /r/flyingspaghettimonster

yeah i made that up

[–]tiffanydisasterxoxo 2 points3 points ago

The difference is that evolution has been proven, Christianity has not.

[–]antsugi 0 points1 point ago

I've had to respond to like 6 comments now and I'm gettin tired of repetition, but I'm not saying this guy is in the right either. I'm simply saying that people believe different things. Don't make fun of them for it, just be respectful and leave them alone. Let them be wrong. Atheism is shoved down everyone's throats these days. All that does is push them farther into their religion. If they want to believe atheism, they would, is it really worth making fun of a man's beliefs? that's a low blow if you ask me. Being a science nut is just as obnoxious as the religious nuts.

[–]tiffanydisasterxoxo 0 points1 point ago

Evolution has nothing to do with religion. Religious nuts ignore facts and teach people to ignore facts, science nuts give people facts and want people to know the truth.

[–]WhoMouse 2 points3 points ago

I haven't seen any mockery of this person's religion around here. I've seen mockery of the person's complete lack of basic scientific knowledge.

[–]antsugi 0 points1 point ago

So, if a man believes something that has been claimed to be proven wrong you can make fun of him because he's different?

[–]Strudol 0 points1 point ago

No mockery of religion here. just of ignorance. this person is talking about a subject they know next to nothing about and mocking someone who has spent their entire adult life studying the subject. Evolution has been proven time and time again, and anyone who says it hasn't is lying to themselves.

[–]antsugi 0 points1 point ago

look, i'm not here to argue about religion. I don't give a shit what you believe, so stow it. I don't care whether atheism has been proven, I have my own beliefs. If I wanted to talk about it, I would, but I don't.

[–]Strudol 0 points1 point ago

you cant "prove" atheism. it's a belief. however evolution can be proven. but whatever dude.

[–]grambo87 0 points1 point ago

repost, i hate you

[–]sexmadalias 0 points1 point ago

Repost ffs

[–]Tiv3z -5 points-4 points ago

This belong more in /r/atheism/

[–]skittery 2 points3 points ago

Except it'd be downvoted to hell because it's a repost and only been seen 1000000 times.

[–]HeiPei -3 points-2 points ago

I wonder why I read this subreddit since the facepalms begin to hurt...

[–]kickpuncher1 -3 points-2 points ago

She really Britta'ed that one.....