Great quote by Thomas Paine

Kilnor · 2012-09-28T19:38:08+00:00

My favorite from Paine: "The World is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion."

tossnear · 2012-09-28T18:40:21+00:00

He was a deist, so your insinuation that this quote is directed to those believing in God is wrong. You are showing a profound renunciation of reason, if you will.

SimilarImage · 2012-09-28T16:00:29+00:00

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6 months	kpjones07	Thomas Paine	here	54	671
4 months	allenizabeth	You ever hear that one about arguing with a pigeon, Mr. Paine?	here	1	116
10 months	CatholicCommunist	How I feel arguing with Christians sometimes	here	110	686

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Likezable · 2012-09-28T20:21:13+00:00

Atheism? Why arn't you using this quote?

All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit. Thomas Paine

ChooseInsanity · 2012-09-28T19:20:01+00:00

I never thought I'd say this but it seems r/atheism / atheists in general are posting/saying the same shit over and over...

I thought that was religion's job.

Fodash · 2012-09-28T14:53:07+00:00

Great quote! I also enjoy, "The most formidable weapon against errors of any kind is reason." Thomas Paine 1974

Uranus_Hz · 2012-09-28T16:26:00+00:00

You cannot have a rational discussion with an irrational person.

theatworkaccount · 2012-09-28T19:17:49+00:00

medication is often administered to clinically dead patients after a cardiac arrest.

Glad to have the opportunity to be "that asshole"

Thank you

gr8wilson · 2012-09-28T19:53:33+00:00

"But if objects for gratitude and admiration are our desire, do they not present themselves every hour to our eyes? Do we not see a fair creation prepared to receive us the instant we are born - a world furnished to our hands, that cost us nothing? Is it we that light up the sun, that pour down the rain, and fill the earth with abundance? Whether we sleep or wake, the vast machinery of the universe still goes on. Are these things, and the blessings they indicate in future, nothing to us? Can our gross feelings be excited by no other subjects than tragedy and suicide? Or is the gloomy pride of man become so intolerable, that nothing can flatter it but a sacrifice of the Creator?" - Thomas Paine

NotVerySmarts · 2012-09-28T19:54:48+00:00

It won't stop a lot of you stubborn bastards from trying, though.

controlmath · 2012-09-28T19:57:11+00:00

The problem inherently though is that an unreasonable person will think that reasonable people are unreasonable and use this quote unreasonably.

Var1abl3 · 2012-09-28T20:18:55+00:00

Common Sense right there.

painperdu · 2012-09-28T20:26:39+00:00

It wouldn't be so bad if religious people only renounced reason while in their religion. The problem really presents itself only when they allow their religious world to cross over into the secular world where reality tends to bite back.

Pomguo · 2012-09-28T20:41:23+00:00

Dance in the oldest boots I own, to the rhythm of Tom Paine's bones.

jewraffe · 2012-09-28T22:07:48+00:00

T. Paine

logicalthinker1 · 2012-09-28T22:12:33+00:00

Founding fathers had a way with words didn't they

Imashaaark · 2012-09-28T23:01:13+00:00

I wish my name was Tom Paine

fluhdunk · 2012-09-28T23:19:29+00:00

works on both sides you damn athiests

TommyPaine · 2012-09-28T23:45:15+00:00

Just here to collect karma.

cmxxiv · 2012-09-28T23:46:42+00:00

This also includes keeping your reasoning sound

frenlaven · 2012-09-28T23:58:37+00:00

what is 'reason'?

ellifaine · 2012-09-29T00:11:22+00:00

Upvoted because he's my ancestor

Evi1M4chine · 2012-09-29T00:12:16+00:00

I always say that. And it’s even worse.

It is like playing the game of somebody who cheats.

First, he will cheat, by ignoring the rules of logic and reason. Then when you start arguing, he will gain control by simply having you fight for his acceptance, never accept, wait until you trip up, and declare victory.

Never let them control the game. They are the ones who have to gain your acceptance. And lapses in logic and reason will never give them that.
End of story. :)

juggernaut1107 · 2012-09-29T00:24:42+00:00

It's going to be really awkward if the day comes where a man walks the Earth and [magically] heals with his hands. But I already know what type of person it takes to crucify him.

highac3s · 2012-09-29T00:50:04+00:00

The fact that op thought that this was most relevant to atheism made me unsubscribe to /r/atheism. Mind you, there are other reasons, but this is too much.

ThrowawayMerril · 2012-09-29T01:55:27+00:00

Thomas Paine was not ridiculing religion with this quote. he described himself as a Deist, believing in an Ultimate Deity. With this quote he meant that trying to talk sense into a fool is like fighting the wind. In the end that man will still be a fool and all you'll be is frustrated.

gsettle · 2012-09-29T02:21:04+00:00

Was he addressing liberals?

CM816 · 2012-09-29T02:53:15+00:00

Sooooo T-Paine

muffdiver69 · 2012-09-29T03:20:51+00:00

Wait is he talking about religion or your mom?

Tormentor · 2012-09-29T05:20:29+00:00

This /r/atheism repeat offense of misusing quotes with an absolute ignorance of their original context is growing pretty fucking old.

bluejohnnyd · 2012-09-29T05:24:17+00:00

In the right context, I view it more as an autopsy than as administering medicine. That is, even if someone is beyond convincing for themselves, it can be a good exercise to use their intransigence to learn, test your own knowledge and hone your rhetorical skill.

UncleSneakyFingers · 2012-09-28T16:51:48+00:00

Another good one: "Those who try to reconcile science with religion, understand neither"

KangarooLemonade · 2012-09-28T17:58:22+00:00

Anyone seeking more info might also check here:

title	comnts	points	age	/r/
To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead. - Thomas Paine	7^coms	99^pts	7^mos	atheism
What I think when my sister starts to argue with me	0^coms	10^pts	4^mos	funny
Very true Mr Paine, I doth thy cap to you!	8^coms	92^pts	5^mos	funny
Thomas Paine	54^coms	671^pts	6^mos	atheism
You ever hear that one about arguing with a pigeon, Mr. Paine?	1^com	116^pts	5^mos	atheism
How I feel arguing with Christians sometimes	110^coms	686^pts	10^mos	atheism
Why debating theists should be done lightheartedly.	282^coms	1198^pts	8^mos	atheism
Whenever I see "Checkmate Atheists!"	12^coms	102^pts	5^mos	atheism
Arguing With Creationists	4^coms	60^pts	6^mos	atheism
Words of wisdom from Thom Paine	16^coms	337^pts	2^mos	atheism

source: karmadecay

Edit: Quick note, run all of pepsi_next's other posts through Karma Decay.

distributed · 2012-09-28T16:44:55+00:00

Administering medicine to the dead, is that like post mortem baptizing like the mor(m)ons?

athompson39 · 2012-09-28T19:49:06+00:00

"If your faith can move mountains, it should be able to withstand criticism"

electric_zebra · 2012-09-28T19:38:18+00:00

This is bollocks. It's saying an ignorant person can never learn.

SutekhRising · 2012-09-28T15:03:37+00:00

Can also be said for the majority of /r/conspiracy

Gallivanting · 2012-09-28T18:38:02+00:00

I knew a right wing extreamist who quoted Paine to me all the time. I let him do if for a year. Then told him to do some research on his hero. He then pretended that he never liked him.

deathsmiled · 2012-09-28T17:31:34+00:00

This makes me think of all the people on the "you MUST vote" thread.

Super_Pooper1 · 2012-09-28T17:36:09+00:00

How I feel discussing religion with my Muslim parents.

The_Yar · 2012-09-28T19:42:53+00:00

Yeah I don't see why so many atheists don't grasp this basic truth. Religion really isn't meant to be a logical argument.

JurassicParkerr · 2012-09-28T20:06:37+00:00

I'm tired of seeing similes on here...

councilface · 2012-09-28T20:09:00+00:00

He's a legend. One of Englands great thinkers. I'm from his hometown of Thetford & I like blacks too. In fact I've been fucking the same black girl for 6 years.

DRodders · 2012-09-28T20:16:18+00:00

Obviously advanced life support wasn't around when he made this quote :P

iUberGeek · 2012-09-28T20:19:36+00:00

So, when will the next out-of-context quotation from a celebrated historical figure make the front-page of /r/atheism?


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