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"If your country has a history of colonialism, don't do this" - Bill Maher (imgur.com)
submitted 6 days ago by dgosh
[–]jezmaster 316 points317 points318 points 6 days ago
theres an island somewhere (micronesia?) where the tribe actually worship Prince Phillip as a god.
[–]Danny_Gray 176 points177 points178 points 6 days ago
This is what you're talking about. The people on the island of Tanna in Vanuatu worship Phillip as a god.
[–]cyphered 48 points49 points50 points 6 days ago
A few of the people came here to meet him a while back. It made very interesting viewing.
This kind of cargo-cult type thing is really quite cool. And weird.
[–]scuzzytoast 21 points22 points23 points 6 days ago
You should check out Island of the Sequined Love Nun by Christopher Moore, if you're into fiction.
It's based around a blacklisted pilot and a (fictional) cargo cult in Micronesia.
[–]soapmactavish 8 points9 points10 points 6 days ago
John Frum when will you come??
[–]Gudfala 10 points11 points12 points 6 days ago
I've spent a fair bit of time in Vanuatu and the Chief from the John Frum village told me about an argument he got into with a Christian missionary. Apparently his main point was 'You've been waiting for Jesus for 2000 years, we've only been waiting for John Frum for 60 years!'
[–]soyabstemio 2 points3 points4 points 6 days ago*
Yeah, exactly the same thing he told David Attenborough on TV in the 1960s (or thereabouts).
EDIT: On Episode 2 of this program 1960, can't find a copy of it online, though.
[–]squonge 4 points5 points6 points 6 days ago
Or Cat's Cradle by Vonnegut.
[–]SQUID_FUCKER 2 points3 points4 points 6 days ago
Is that like The Gods Must Be Crazy?
[–]webhead311 7 points8 points9 points 6 days ago
Imagine if he went there; they would flip their shit.
[–]Danny_Gray 11 points12 points13 points 6 days ago
They have actually met him, from Wikipedia.
On 27 September 2007, British television station Channel 4 broadcast Meet the Natives, a reality show about five Tanna natives of the Prince Philip Movement on a visit to Britain; their visit culminated in an off-screen audience with Philip, where gifts were exchanged, including a new photograph of the Prince.
[–]newguy57 0 points1 point2 points 6 days ago
The funny thing is, the Royal Family gladly welcomes being worshiped. They don't find it silly at all. After all the Queen's face is on the money.
[–]Valdincan 10 points11 points12 points 6 days ago
Oh no free us from the oppressive regime of the constitutional monarchy and bring us into the shining light of Republicanism were countries lose their minds, fragment and call each other Satan.
[–]noodlefart 55 points56 points57 points 6 days ago
does anyone actually know the context?
[–]The_Queen_Mother 122 points123 points124 points 6 days ago
They were on a state trip to the Solomon Islands and Tuvalu on behalf of the Queen for the Diamond Jubilee. Queen Elizabeth II is still head of state for these two countries, and it is tradition that when she visits they welcome her this way. I can guarantee you that this is not something that William ever would have requested. When QE2 was last there in 1982, she was carried on a throne as well. They're actually quite popular there - some 70,000 people on the Solomons came out to see them, and over half the population of Tuvalu.
[–]ccrazool 43 points44 points45 points 6 days ago
... "QE2"? Is she frequently referred to as such? That sounds more like an action movie than a monarch.
[–]Pyro_With_A_Lighter 29 points30 points31 points 6 days ago
Or the ship.
[–]nativevlan 7 points8 points9 points 6 days ago
Or Quantitative Easing.
[–]pdinc 2 points3 points4 points 6 days ago
Quantitative Easing 2: GRATUITOUS EASING
[–]The_Queen_Mother 10 points11 points12 points 6 days ago
I don't know, I tend to call her that because it's easy to type out/say. I'm an unabashed fan of her, too, so I get a kick out of the nickname.
[–]I_Was_LarryVlad 6 points7 points8 points 6 days ago
How'd you come back to life!? Also, how was the Jubilee?
[–]The_Queen_Mother 15 points16 points17 points 6 days ago
Old Queens never die, they just disappear from polite society when their hair can no longer support massive tiaras.
[–]macrun20 17 points18 points19 points 6 days ago
It is a form of respect to foreign leaders. It is called the Kings Chair and this is Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard in the same way before the Pacific Islands Forum in the Cook Islands.
[–]analweapon 20 points21 points22 points 6 days ago
They are carrying him to a pot of boiling water.
[–]dumbgaytheist 3 points4 points5 points 6 days ago
Since when did Bill Maher ever benefit from presenting something in its correct context?
[–]clockbottle 1527 points1528 points1529 points 6 days ago
From our perspective it looks really bad, but maybe it would have been horribly rude to turn it down. Maybe that's just how they treat all high-ranking guests because that's part of their culture.
[–]ssercomic 202 points203 points204 points 6 days ago
A somewhat relevant picture of Idi Amin.
[–]bloodnaught 88 points89 points90 points 6 days ago*
the unbrella really doesn't look all that effective EDIT:the "un" was the pun
[–]h2sbacteria 34 points35 points36 points 6 days ago
Incredibly relevant.
[–]allie_sin 616 points617 points618 points 6 days ago*
I'm surprised B.M. isn't smart enough to get this.
It's their country (now) and they get to ask who rides on a throne or not.
[–]oridb 200 points201 points202 points 6 days ago*
He isn't stupid enough to miss it. But rationally discussing the reasons to ride a silly throne or not isn't a good way to get ratings.
[–]meowmixplzdeliver 39 points40 points41 points 6 days ago
Maher was probably joking. Remember, his show is 1/2 entertainment/comedy
[–]dgafuan 36 points37 points38 points 6 days ago
I thought it was closer to 1/8 entertainment..
[–]MediocreJerk 6 points7 points8 points 6 days ago
1/100 informative discussion
[–]FlatlanderMachine 47 points48 points49 points 6 days ago
entertainment/comedy?
More like 100% watching paint dry.
[–]Istvaan 39 points40 points41 points 6 days ago*
I remember the day my friend mentioned how fucking arrogant he was, turn to his show and the second sentence out of his mouth he's saying people compare him to George Carlin.
Who?!? Who compares you to George Carlin?
[–]ZiggyZombie 8 points9 points10 points 6 days ago
He is really arrogant. I can see why people like him, and he isn't stupid. However, some people worship him and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
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[–]Rahavin 3 points4 points5 points 6 days ago*
Source? [Edit] Ah... here is is (from another commenter. Thanks jaketheripper!). http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/13/bill-maher-vs-the-flu-vaccine/
[–]hellbrainsx 19 points20 points21 points 6 days ago
I don't know why you got downvoted for that. That's a pretty good analysis of the situation there.
[–]SOMETHING_POTATO 36 points37 points38 points 6 days ago
Rationally discussing the reasons talk show hosts say what they do isn't a good way to get upvotes.
[–]Reesch 31 points32 points33 points 6 days ago
That's a pretty good analysis of the situation there.
[–]Mi5anthr0pe 639 points640 points641 points 6 days ago
That's because Bill Maher isn't smart. Which says even more for his cultish followers (Read: Reddit). He is clever, he is not wise.
[–]kazorek 436 points437 points438 points 6 days ago*
He's smart, just not as smart as he thinks he is.
[–]Aikidi 49 points50 points51 points 6 days ago
To be fair, if Bill Maher was half as smart as he thinks he is he would have probably found a cure for cancer by now.
[–]AdmiralSkippy 17 points18 points19 points 6 days ago
Yes. I'll sometimes watch his show and he'll say a lot of very intelligent things. And then he'll say something completely off base and very arguably wrong or something that could be just as dumb as what an extreme right wing republican might say. And yet he still thinks he's King Shit.
I wouldn't mind so much if it was more of a Stephen Colbert report where he thinks he's King Shit but we all know it's an act. BM actually holds himself as if his shit doesn't stink.
[–]analweapon 88 points89 points90 points 6 days ago
From a non-american - Why do people hate him so much? I have seen religulous which was quite proper in my opinion.
[–]QuerulousPanda 327 points328 points329 points 6 days ago
He says a lot of funny and also progressive stuff... but he also says some insane shit too that is just as ridiculous as the people he mocks.
[–]analweapon 47 points48 points49 points 6 days ago
What kind of insane shit if you could elaborate, please.
[–]jaketheripper 265 points266 points267 points 6 days ago
He's anti-vaccine (emphasis mine):
Mr. Maher: Why would you let them be the ones to stick a disease into your arm? I would never get a swine flu vaccine or any vaccine. I don’t trust the government, especially with my health.
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/13/bill-maher-vs-the-flu-vaccine/
[–]WCC335 206 points207 points208 points 6 days ago
A perfect example of Maher's "na-na-na-I-can't-hear-you." He says "I don’t trust the government, especially with my health," but then supports Obamacare (and donates $1mil to the president's reelection campaign).
I am not saying anything about Obamacare or vaccines. I am saying something about Maher's politics.
[–]Va_Fungool 41 points42 points43 points 6 days ago
umm obamacare is not govt healthcare, it forces you to buy PRIVATE insurance
[–]captainAwesomePants 6 points7 points8 points 6 days ago
But there it's an economic issue, not a medical one. He supports Obamacare as a conservative because making everyone self-insure is cheaper than treating uninsured people. Obamacare doesn't force you to accept any particular medical treatment.
[–]grrrrimmadbro 11 points12 points13 points 6 days ago
"What I've read about what they think I'm saying is not what I've said. I'm not a germ theory denier. I believe vaccinations can work. Polio is a good example. Do I think in certain situations that inoculating Third World children against malaria or diphtheria, or whatever, is right? Of course. In a situation like that, the benefits outweigh costs. But to me living in Los Angeles? To get a flu shot? No."
[–]turdoftomorrow 52 points53 points54 points 6 days ago
He wrote an article about this after it blew up explaining his position...he's not "anti-vaccine", but he calls himself a vaccine skeptic. That is, he is not opposed to vaccines on principle, but he is skeptical of the recurring trend of impending pandemics: SARS, swine flu, bird flu, etc. I still think it's a misguided stance, but he is nowhere near Jenny Mcarthy level of anti-vac-nut-baggery.
[–]candygram4mongo 17 points18 points19 points 6 days ago
He is probably better than McCarthy, but that article is a masterpiece of ignorance and insinuation that would make Bill O'Reilly blush. And one of the "experts" he cites was actually McCarthy's pediatrician.
[–]W2M3C 9 points10 points11 points 6 days ago
The pandemics have less to do with vaccines and everything to do with monocultural, industrialized agricultural and food chains.
[–]jogga 71 points72 points73 points 6 days ago
Among other things, calling Sarah Palin a cunt. That's some Limbaugh shit.
[–]cowfishduckbear 66 points67 points68 points 6 days ago
Yeah, a jerk is a jerk, no matter which side of some imaginary, arbitrary line you place him on.
[–]analweapon 40 points41 points42 points 6 days ago
Also, a cunt is a cunt.
[–]theRainChicken 9 points10 points11 points 6 days ago
I've probably called her worse.
[–]DildzQueen 6 points7 points8 points 6 days ago
You aren't a talking head that has to be aware what you say on national television because your career includes representing your beliefs to their fullest.
[–]GentlemanPlusScholar 1 point2 points3 points 6 days ago
Calling Polosi a cunt would be more of Limbaugh's thing.
[–]Odusei 5 points6 points7 points 6 days ago
He's an extreme animal activist, which unfortunately does not mean that he objects to animal cruelty while climbing a cliff face. He says things like, "If you're alive today because you had your heart replaced with a pig's, I'm sorry, but you should be dead." (Not an actual quote, just paraphrasing)
[–]Taniwha_NZ 4 points5 points6 points 6 days ago
He toes the liberal line on most issues, seems to be genuinely progressive and good at calling out hypocrites from either side...
... except he's a huge Israel supporter and will not entertain anti-Israel comments from anyone, he's more than happy to shout down his own guests if they dare to have pity for Palestinians.
Second, he's virulently anti-vaccine, as others have pointed out, which is a serious black mark against his intellect. Anyone who can read should be aware by now that the vaccine/autism scare was caused by a single researcher who published a single study that was later found to be completely fraudulent and got him hauled into court (iirc) in the UK.
So if you are still quoting that guy to support your anti-vaccine hysteria, you are deliberately ignoring the facts just so you can pretend for a while longer that there really is a problem with vaccines. This is exactly the kind of my-way-or-the-highway pigheaded bullshit that has made the GOP such a joke these days.
Those are the main reasons people who should like Maher do not.
[–]jack-ruby 12 points13 points14 points 6 days ago
doesn't he not believe in germ theory?
[–]W2M3C 2 points3 points4 points 6 days ago
If true, that's about as scientific as not believing in evolution and he should be ashamed.
[–]ip_127_0_0_1 11 points12 points13 points 6 days ago
[–]varukasalt 5 points6 points7 points 6 days ago
He's an anti-vaxer (anti vaccine) for starters.
[–]CarolineTurpentine 22 points23 points24 points 6 days ago
Don't ever say vaxer again. That is fucking stupid.
[–]systmshk 1 point2 points3 points 5 days ago
Wake up, vaxer!
[–]insoundfromwayout 107 points108 points109 points 6 days ago*
I have seen religulous which was quite proper in my opinion. Religulous Quite proper
I have seen religulous which was quite proper in my opinion.
Religulous
Quite proper
I saw that film too.. it was hardly an hour long debate between Robert Winston and Daniel Dennett on radio 4 - it was just a religious freak show; loads of really weird religious people, long interviews cut down into 2 minutes segments of all the weirdest stuff they said, and complementary sound effects.
You really think that was a proper and decent, fair and balanced documentary? I can't believe it. Personally, if I were forced to think of a film which was really one sided and biased and just pure propaganda, that would be one of the first films to come to my mind!
EDIT: Lol, for example, I just googled the film to refresh my memory, and I see that, aside from the fact the title of the film is a portmanteau of 'religious' and 'ridiculous', the poster of the film is a chimp dressed as the pope.
I just wanted to add that in, before you might write a reply about how the film was actually a really well balanced review of modern religion and it's place in our lives. A chimp dressed as the pope.
[–]spacemonkey514 25 points26 points27 points 6 days ago
Michael Moore's Bowling For Columbine, even though I agreed with its message, really set the bar low for future "infotainment" documentaries.
[–]insoundfromwayout 37 points38 points39 points 6 days ago*
I agree with you there. The whole idea of a 'documentary' that is infact just backing you up in your own prejudices is really quite perverse, and probably destructive. One group has their biased prejudiced documentary proving them right, another group has theirs, it just causes polerisation, and causes people to hate or be suspicious of each other. Or at the very least ridicule each other rather than trying to find out what's going on in the world.
Like, for example, I myself am religious, to some degree. And every once in a while I've got into a discussion online with an American atheist, on Reddit perhaps. I try to avoid these discussions in general, because they so often go the same way. I don't want to sound big-headed, but I think I'm quite well informed on the idea of religion, I'm well educated, I've given my religion a lot of thought, I've been to one of the best universities for theology and philosophy in the world, and had the chance to talk things over in depth with really brilliant people, priests, even a couple of bishops, I'm reasonable, I'm logical, I've given it a lot of thought, I'm sure I've heard or read a couple of thought provoking arguments someone else might not have heard; my point is, I think that if you really wanted to have a discussion about religion and faith, that I'd have a lot to say, a lot to contribute.
But, nearly every time it comes up online, the discussion goes-
"OH, so you're religious?" "Yeah, I am actually" "Well you're a fucking idiot then"
"OH, so you're religious?"
"Yeah, I am actually"
"Well you're a fucking idiot then"
You know what I mean? They already know I am an idiot, because they have been to /r/atheism, and seen the Bill Maher documentary.
It's not that it offends me, it really doesn't. It's just that... well what good does it do anybody?
Thankfully it doesn't happen in real life much, usually just the internet, but I think that's down to the American presence; it seems to be a young American issue, because they see a lot of fundamentalism and things we don't get over here, perhaps. But with these films and things, it is slowly seeping over here. It's sad, It's can't do any good for people.
[–]spacemonkey514 20 points21 points22 points 6 days ago
Exactly. It also unfortunately also applies to socio-political ideology as well. "Oh, so you're a liberal/conservative" "Yeah, I am actually." "Well you're a gay vegan communist/gay-in-denial redneck nazi".
The level of discourse is just so... juvenile and alienating that it results in each camp preaching to their choir. Every once in a while it becomes civil, which is why I'm a Buddhist posting in r/atheism. Hopefully civility will eventually become the norm.
[–]insoundfromwayout 11 points12 points13 points 6 days ago
lol, well you're a braver man than me.
[–]Phinjoe 10 points11 points12 points 6 days ago
I'm glad I read down to this comment. I didn't like Religulous before because I felt it was just Maher saying "haha look at these religious fools". You put it so eloquently
[–]SystemOutPrintln 6 points7 points8 points 6 days ago
I've never seen the movie but the poster is clearly a parody of the three wise monkeys (see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil)
[–]wooden_spoon 37 points38 points39 points 6 days ago
I'm an atheist who enjoys looking in on the religion in this world for the sake of it at times, and I decided not to watch this movie because of that poster. I hate to judge books by their covers, but it was absurd.
[–]varukasalt 8 points9 points10 points 6 days ago
Seriously. What did the poor chimp do to deserve being portrayed as the likes of the pope? Shameful!
[–]Grabenhorn 1 point2 points3 points 6 days ago
Agood one I've seen is called Flight of the Dodos or something like that. It was pretty fair and interesting.
[–]greasyfart 1 point2 points3 points 6 days ago
Look at the way in which father coyne was hardly featured. He's the only one there who was of sound mind, and they past right over him.
[–]kazorek 40 points41 points42 points 6 days ago
I think his TV show really puts me off. He loves sitting back and letting the studio audience jack him off. He just seems like a guy with little to no humility.
[–]tttruckit 12 points13 points14 points 6 days ago
I was most turned off by the ending of the film. I felt like he was doing exactly what he claimed to turn him off. The hyperbolic turn it all took: carmina burana-esque music, the apocalyptic images, etc. The camera is aimed up at him as he looked down on us and says "Grow up or die." I'm not even religious but it just bothered me. People have put just as much faith into non-religious paradigms like science, sometimes allowing themselves to believe something that is not "real" to the detriment of society (see the first hundred years of anthropology). I feel like even when I agree with what he is saying, I don't agree with how he is saying it.
[–]AimlessWanderer 23 points24 points25 points 6 days ago
He is the lefts rush limbaugh.
[–]person749 3 points4 points5 points 6 days ago
Exactly.
[–]caroline_reynolds 25 points26 points27 points 6 days ago
I hated Religulous, but not because I'm religious myself. It was because he got a lot of very kind and respectful interviewees (regardless of whether you agree with them), and talked over them, all but yelled at them for their faith, and cut off everything they said. He might as well have just sat in an empty room and talked about religion for two hours for all the insight we got regarding the viewpoints of devotedly religious people.
He also summarized the film by basically saying that anyone who continues to practice religion is contributing to horrors like 9/11, which I just find so out of line to even say, and he capped everything by saying that you're an idiot if you don't agree with him.
Criticism of religion I don't mind. Smug one-sided insolence I have a problem with.
[–]shorty6049 0 points1 point2 points 6 days ago
This is tough for me... While I agree that we should respect each other, there are a lot of religous folks who believe so strongly in their gods that they act the same toward those who don't believe. I had a friend stop talking to me for a while because I told him that I didn't have any personal proof of there being a god. The hate goes both ways with this stuff, though when you're in the majority (christians here in the US) , you tend to get away with it becuase people agree with you.
[–]person749 9 points10 points11 points 6 days ago*
Religulous actually made me lose respect for him. Anytime anyone was close to providing a reasonable argument against him, he basically changed the subject and aborted.
edit: In addendum, I think he is right about a lot of things, but he is very much the same thing as a talk-radio pundit; he does not listen to alternative arguments and just calls those who disagree with him liars. He is similar to Howie-Carr or Rush Limbaugh- just for democrats instead of conservatives.
[–]HoboViking 4 points5 points6 points 6 days ago
I dislike him because I remember him before his show, and he has always come across to me as a smarmy, self rightouess, semi corrupt type of guy.
True or not, thats the vibe Ive always gotten from him, even though I agree with him about 75% of the time.
[–]carlosboozer 9 points10 points11 points 6 days ago*
because he mistakes smug, glib, self-righteous bullshit and stale, hacky jokes for wisdom
[–]Blaxon 15 points16 points17 points 6 days ago*
Because ultimately he makes a mockery out of things that should be taken seriously to avoid misinformation. He is Jon Stewart without any class or restraint.
Edit: Name misspelled
[–]nowonmai666 4 points5 points6 points 6 days ago
You can get podcasts of his shows "Real Time" (and "Overtime") and you'll quickly get the idea. He'll make a string of sensible points and you're right behind him, then he'll say something utterly deranged and you realise he believes in conspiracy theories with the same sincerity as all the sensible stuff he says. After a while you realise that he doesn't have a belief system so much as a random selection of anti-establishment stances, with no logic behind them. He'll deride creationists as anti-reason, then his next bit will be some equally anti-scientific vaccination nonsense.
[–]inexcess 2 points3 points4 points 6 days ago
read the comment you replied to again. He is just so full of himself I cant stand it
[–]C0lMustard 2 points3 points4 points 6 days ago
I like his show, I find sometimes he's too rude /aggresive.
[–]orko57 2 points3 points4 points 6 days ago
His politics are fine, but he comes off so smug and smarmy. He makes my skin crawl.
[–]Super_King_ 2 points3 points4 points 6 days ago
Religilous was just edited to seem way more awkward than the reality probably would be.
[–]shooterlesson 3 points4 points5 points 6 days ago
Smugness
[–]Redditor8472 4 points5 points6 points 6 days ago
I've seen it too, and it was anything but.
The whole movie was Bill Maher and another guy I can't remember now being relatively civil to people, then ridiculing them relentlessly in their car when the people weren't there to defend themselves.
Any little respect I may have had for the guy went right out the window when I saw that movie.
[–]ThatsHowYouGet_Ants 5 points6 points7 points 6 days ago
Religulous is very funny, but makes no insightful or "smart" points about religion. He makes uneducated people look stupid. That would be fine if it was supposed to be a documentary about how stupid some people are who happen to be religious, but it isn't. It is trying to show how stupid religion is, but if you are going to try to do that legitimately you need to interview any of the thousands of intelligent people who are religious, people who study theology at the highest academic level. The movie is all just low hanging fruit, very similar to /r/atheism. I'm not saying I didn't enjoy the film, but people who use it as part of their argument/ justification for being atheist are just as silly as the people being poked fun of in the movie.
TLDR: Religulous if entertaining, not "smart"
[–]ShittyInternetAdvice 30 points31 points32 points 6 days ago
It has actually become part of the hivemind to hate Bill Maher. The majority of posts I now see relating to Bill Maher are negative. I see nothing wrong with him. Abrasive? Yes. Funny? In my opinion, yes. His brand of comedy isn't for everyone
[–]primitive_screwhead 4 points5 points6 points 6 days ago
It's weird. I hear "arrogant", and "asshole" over and over now, when I never thought he was anything but a fairly pointed comedic commentator. Hell, he's laughing half the time he's "commenting".
I think it's a bit of the opposite Reddit reaction to Hitchens, who gets all kinds of praise here for his stance on religion. And I've been a long time reader of his for years, and admire a lot of his 'moral' and ethical positions. And yet, I was absolutely livid in the 2003-2006 timeframe about his support for the Iraq war, and the condescending way he talked about "liberals" who refused to support it on moral grounds. He was (IMO) a total asshole about it, and he generally comes off as arrogant about many things. However, I still felt the content of what he was saying was compelling, even when I was greatly put off by how some of it came off, and even if I vehemently disagreed with some of the opinions, so I never felt the need to go around trying to convince others he was an asshole. But with Maher, I feel there's a group that go out of their way to deliberately misunderstand his message as more intentionally serious than it is; this headline is clearly a joke, and paired with the picture it's somewhat amusing. I'll bet Maher was laughing when he said it. Perhaps it's not the kind of humor you think is funny. Perhaps you don't like some of his other less overtly humorous commentary. But, trying to portray joking statements like this as "dumb" or "asshole" statements, seems silly to me.
[–]Code347 2 points3 points4 points 6 days ago
His brand of comedy...
I think that is the big thing people are missing. I like Bill Maher's show. He has some good guests, and it is entertainment. I don't base my voting or ideals based on his show. Not unlike the 700 Club.
[–]Quist11 3 points4 points5 points 6 days ago
there is a point where it transitions from comedy to an arrogant, rude circle jerk against people he doesnt agree with
[–]U2_is_gay 1 point2 points3 points 6 days ago
What exactly is the standard for a talk show host? Because thats all he really is. His only mistake is that he's bold enough to say things that people can actually disagree with him on.
[–]HeyYouYoureAwesome 13 points14 points15 points 6 days ago
He's obviously joking, and I don't get why you guys are taking this quote seriously.
[–]WONT_CAPITALIZE_i 13 points14 points15 points 6 days ago
He reminds me of the guy that preaches the bible on campus except bill maher grew up learning evolution so that is what he preaches while being an asshole.
[–]Szos 3 points4 points5 points 6 days ago
So only one side can get the assholes?
Fuck that.
No wonder why "the other side" seems to always win. Assholes that are willing to call things out, spin their story with a witty joke, while making the other side look foolish is exactly why we are in the mess that we are in today. Other side has entire TV "news" outlets and most of AM radio. They have people like Limbaugh and Hannity and Beck that have been spinning their craft for years now. Because of that, millions across the country listen to their nonsense; they laugh, they nod as they agree with their point of view, and eventually get indoctrinated into that line of thinking.
Liberals have very few of these people that are willing to go toe-to-toe with the far right. Maher is one of them. Olbermann is another. Not many after that.
[–]Sanduskys_Day_Care 8 points9 points10 points 6 days ago
Of course not. But you lose your right to claim you're better than the other side.
[–]Vesperidone 10 points11 points12 points 6 days ago*
Except Maher isn't anything more than a shock comic in a suit. I don't fucking want a progressive Rush Limbaugh because there's a lot more wrong with Limbaugh than just what his "views" are.
[–]WCC335 6 points7 points8 points 6 days ago
People don't realize that Maher is essentially the O'Reilly of the left. His show is all about sitting back and talking about how great Democrats are and how much of "pinheads" Republicans are.
There will be no honest debate or discussion on his show.
If you want that, that's fine. But don't complain about Bill O'Reilly if you do. Because you're 50% of the reason that politics are so shitty and sensationalist in this country.
[–]WileEPeyote 9 points10 points11 points 6 days ago
I am guessing you don't watch/listen to it. He very regularly has Republican pundits on the show and plenty of other people he disagrees with and allows them plenty of time to make their point. He has also done plenty of poking at the left and has taken shit for it.
First and foremost it is a comedy show about politics, so comparing it to the hate and rage thrown out by O'Reilly it a pretty poor comparison.
[–]jive_turkey 4 points5 points6 points 6 days ago
He very regularly has Republican pundits on the show and plenty of other people he disagrees with and allows them plenty of time to make their point.
Every time I've seen his show he's either had: 1. Someone too stupid to know what he's even talking about or how to make sense of it or 2. Someone who had good points that he just interrupted and than had all his cronies and audience laugh at.
[–]grrrrimmadbro 6 points7 points8 points 6 days ago
Clearly you didn't see him tear into Brian over the steaming mess that is Faster than the Speed of Love.
He wasn't afraid to ask the hard questions and expose him as the literary hack that he is; we need more of that in this country.
[–]Popsumpot 3 points4 points5 points 6 days ago
You do realize he's a comedian right? He's supposed to make jokes out of things, not over-analyze them...
[–]spacemonkey514 4 points5 points6 points 6 days ago
Comedians don't get a free pass at spouting bullshit. They know they can get away with saying virtually anything by just saying "LOL J/K" when really they're trying to propagate their ideologies like any other cable news or AM radio host.
[–]Popsumpot 0 points1 point2 points 6 days ago
How is that a free pass? Did you not see the joke?
Bill Maher pointed out an obvious situation irony to generate humour, that's like comedy 101...
[–]doublezebra 1 point2 points3 points 6 days ago
It was a joke, you humorless clown.
telling by how rude you are, it makes sense that you would think Mahers arrogant, asshole sense of "humor" would be funny.
[–]sammwwise 16 points17 points18 points 6 days ago
That's because he's a comedian and it wasn't meant to be taken seriously. Just laugh and move on.
[–]deruke 27 points28 points29 points 6 days ago
Bill Maher is a comedian. I think he meant it as a joke.
[–]YarrrMatey 6 points7 points8 points 6 days ago
I'm kind of surprised this went over so many peoples heads.
[–]waffleninja 1 point2 points3 points 6 days ago
He's a comedian.
[–]hyperboleblues 1 point2 points3 points 6 days ago
Actually he's commenting solely on how this looks to the outside observer (read:bad). He is commenting solely on the fact that the one thing this person is probably worried about (image) is being stupidly handled. Which, right or wrong, is true.
[–]Damaband41 1 point2 points3 points 6 days ago
I wouldn't doubt he got it, but if there's a chance for a joke that people who don't analyze situations would laugh at, he'll make it. He is a comedian, after all.
[–]empireofnyy 1 point2 points3 points 6 days ago
He's smart enough to get it, but he was actually making a joke. Christ, it's a comedy show, people.
[–]jonnyrotten7 4 points5 points6 points 6 days ago
Yes, but that wouldn't be funny. Real Time is, first and foremost, a comedy show.
[–]mkg1687 2 points3 points4 points 6 days ago
Its a joke.
[–]bunglejerry 91 points92 points93 points 6 days ago
Well it's a horrid misunderstanding on Maher's part because by 'your country', he means the United Kingdom. But Prince William is heir apparent to the throne of 16 different nations, and Solomon Islands, where this picture is taken, is one of them. In other words, Solomon Islands is 'his country'. He is the future king of the Solomon Islands and the grandson of the current reigning monarch. He's not in a foreign country at all.
[–]firecracker27 7 points8 points9 points 6 days ago*
SECONDED. I was once at a village lending program in Malawi where they asked me, as the guest, to hand money back to people from the box they saved it in. Total ceremonial thing - impossible to say no without being horribly rude - but it was all being caught on video for a huge national newspaper, and I massively regretted being born as a white chick.
[–]hhmmmm 2 points3 points4 points 6 days ago
You have it spot on. Why else would there be footage of almost every single major world leader (bush and obama definitely) in the last 20 years having made a complete tit of themselves doing some form of national or native dance they are joining in with because it would be rude to dismiss them.
[–]jihad_bin_laden 328 points329 points330 points 6 days ago
"or if your country has a history and tradition of honoring royalty or distinguished guests by carrying them on a litter, continue doing this"
-- everyone with a sense of reason
[–]sharkeyzoic 69 points70 points71 points 6 days ago
"When you get bored of it, stop doing it for a while until young people start doing it ironically"
[–]empireofnyy 14 points15 points16 points 6 days ago
"Context and rationality ruin jokes."
-Comedians
[–]ReadySetKill 5 points6 points7 points 6 days ago
Reason never gets ratings!
[–]Bynamewastaken 117 points118 points119 points 6 days ago
They all seem real pleased to be carrying him.
[–]MilesColtrane 130 points131 points132 points 6 days ago
that's kind of what i was going to guess... that those people insisted on carrying him around like that. i'm not a big fan of royals in general, but i think he'd have more sense than to request that treatment... and refusing it would be insulting
[–]DougyM 55 points56 points57 points 6 days ago*
This is the case, there are a lot of small countries that technically have some form of loyalty to the Queen and the other royals from the days of the Empire and when the royals visit them on various good will and charity trips they often perform local customs that seem odd to us in the West but are perfectly normal/formal for them.
The other day they had William and Kate grooving away in some dance ceremony and while William was getting into it you could see Kate trying to stop herself from laughing at his moves.
They also gave him a coconut grown from a tree that the Queen had planted on her last visit to the island (or at least it was the same trip so maybe a nearby island rather than that specific one).
[–]typical_me 3 points4 points5 points 6 days ago
in actual fact the Solomon islands (this picture) are one of the 16 nations with Queen Elizabeth 2nd as monarch.
So they are actually carrying their next king (or so I hope). It is also noted that the royal family are extremely popular over there, and that isn't just because I am an adamant loyalist :)
[–]DougyM 1 point2 points3 points 6 days ago
You are not the only one hoping that, i think the queen might just hold onto the monarchy and try to outlive Charles to do us all a favour.
[–]Bethurz 9 points10 points11 points 6 days ago
Oh, wow, he cannot dance for shit.
[–]Redditor8472 8 points9 points10 points 6 days ago
At the very least he looks like a normal person there for once. He usually has a stick shoved pretty far up his ass.
Here, he still looks like he's got a stick up his ass, but at least in this case it's because he fails at dancing, not because he's a stuffy person.
[–]WindySin 2 points3 points4 points 6 days ago
I'll take being unable to dance in trade for being a Prince any day. Any day.
[–]Tatt-Brah 11 points12 points13 points 6 days ago
yes it probably would have been very insulting for him to decline. but those dudes look mad as fuck
[–]Chumbaniya 4 points5 points6 points 6 days ago
As with most things involving the royal family, it's pretty awkward and unpleasant if you consider the implications too deeply but in practical terms it's all just silly prancing around that neither negatively nor positively affects much of anything. Being a royal is all about going along with whatever traditions are expected by the people of the country you're visiting, and experiencing a royal visit is all about pretending you care about a bunch of traditional things which nobody in your country cares about any more. If both sides play along nobody really suffers.
[–]SqueakySniper 7 points8 points9 points 6 days ago
Some people do care. Just because you are against it Doesn't mean that everybody is. I think having a separate head of state (Royals) and ruler (PM) is very important as the head of state can improve relations with other countries whilst the PM can actually run the country. If you don't like this system tell the government. Trying to get people on your side, especially by saying everyone else is on your side makes you no better than religious preachers.
[–]MilesColtrane 0 points1 point2 points 6 days ago
good summation there
[–]DaminDrexil 79 points80 points81 points 6 days ago
Race swap.
[–]0six0four 23 points24 points25 points 6 days ago
you just made them look like really ashy black people.
[–]spei180 1 point2 points3 points 5 days ago
with pink nipples.
[–]jaymo89[] 5 points6 points7 points 6 days ago
Man he looks like a pimp.
[–]BODYBUTCHER 2 points3 points4 points 6 days ago
he just looks really tan and the black people haven't seen the sun in like 30 years.
[–]kratistos 6 points7 points8 points 6 days ago
As a white person, that picture scares me.
[–]RahadJackson 42 points43 points44 points 6 days ago
Our country has a history of slavery but you can bet your ass I'll never stop hiring interns.
[–]ledat 17 points18 points19 points 6 days ago
Unpaid agricultural internships, right?
[–]Journalisto 51 points52 points53 points 6 days ago
It seems like a really slow way to travel anyway.
[–]pilvy 54 points55 points56 points 6 days ago
Walking speed?
[–]RedGoatSurprise 18 points19 points20 points 6 days ago
Basically the slowest way to travel.
Except the crab-walk I guess, but that's really just a subcategory of walking.
[–]spunkymarimba 25 points26 points27 points 6 days ago
Lol. The guy in the foreground, at the front left is like "Man, fuck this shit."
[–]tvtropesguy 2 points3 points4 points 6 days ago
but you travel in style.
[–]chrisgrizle 43 points44 points45 points 6 days ago
Prince is gonna prince
[–]spunkymarimba 7 points8 points9 points 6 days ago
Sign o' the times.
[–]locklearjet 177 points178 points179 points 6 days ago
Bill Maher once again demonstrates that he knows nothing about anything and is also not funny.
[–]atikiNik 2 points3 points4 points 6 days ago
Fuck Bill Maher and his high horse.
The joke police are here, everybody.
[–]classy_stegasaurus 3 points4 points5 points 6 days ago
Hide the puns, man!
[–]LetsHavePun 3 points4 points5 points 6 days ago
But I don't want to go in the closet. :(
Just for a bit! Quick! To the spaceship!
[–]BenyLava 4 points5 points6 points 6 days ago
yeah im sure he requested the locals to carry him around in a chair.
[–]MartialWay 7 points8 points9 points 6 days ago
If that's their tradition for dignitaries, who are we to tell them what to do?
[–]Totalchaos02 14 points15 points16 points 6 days ago
Is everyone stupid or being purposefully dense? Yes, we get it. He was just honoring the tradition by doing what they requested be done. It doesn't mean that the picture doesn't look bad. That is what the joke is about.
[–]MikeMania 5 points6 points7 points 6 days ago
This was part of the new rules segment. Pretty much a series of quick jokes for quick laughs. I'm too amazed at all the butthurtedness.
[–]lovetosing12 24 points25 points26 points 6 days ago
To be fair, I don't think he had much choice. It's there thing.
[–]helloskoodle 59 points60 points61 points 6 days ago
Sorry, I had to...
[–]unrectifiable 13 points14 points15 points 6 days ago
His smile says it all; "I can get used to this shit."
[–]CletusAwreetus 43 points44 points45 points 6 days ago
"finally, a white man in a position of power."
[–]TheNitwon 7 points8 points9 points 6 days ago
Is this a Commonwealth nation? If it is, then he's still technically the Prince and shit. Besides, they probably asked him to hop on. Unless he took a whip and ordered them to carry him, I don't see what's so bad about this.
[–]Frankeh 1 point2 points3 points 6 days ago
Honestly, it's not like he rounded up some slaves and made him do it. I imagine it's very likely that they wanted to do it and it'd probably be insulting not to.
[–]beeteeoh 4 points5 points6 points 6 days ago
This type of thing is just a show. I bet $50 all those dudes hop in thier cars, get on their cell phones and go out for beers after this.
[–]APairofDocks 1 point2 points3 points 6 days ago
Yeah, or this.
[–]KilliamWallace 18 points19 points20 points 6 days ago
Bill Maher is an assclown
[–]sammwwise 6 points7 points8 points 6 days ago
Honestly, if you guys haven't seen this in the context of the show you really shouldn't be putting your opinion out about this. It was a quick joke he does at the end to wrap up the show.
He is a comedian who is trying to make you laugh. Don't throw logic into this situation.
[–]YHofSuburbia 6 points7 points8 points 6 days ago
Just imagine if Colbert or Stewart had said this. Reddit would be siding with him instead of laughing at him, calling him an idiot, and telling him he doesn't know the context.
[–]prometheus_wanked 7 points8 points9 points 6 days ago
Inspirational
[–]ObscenePenguin 2 points3 points4 points 6 days ago
Well, he is Phillip's grandson.
[–]Beejeroy 2 points3 points4 points 6 days ago
Look how unimpressed the guy in the front is.
[–]MeltedTwix 2 points3 points4 points 6 days ago
Eh, I don't think any of us would turn down the opportunity.
[–]Mongoblack 2 points3 points4 points 6 days ago
Like a Prince.
[–]wodewose 2 points3 points4 points 6 days ago
dissapointed reddit is actually discussing wether or not this is a joke. I thought this community was smarter than that.
[–]BdrLen 1 point2 points3 points 6 days ago
Yah, no. They want to do it as a sign of respect. They don't have an army to line up and present arms, so be like the royals and let people do what makes them happy, eh?
[–]slop_pocket 4 points5 points6 points 6 days ago
bill maher is one ugly son of a gun
[–]dumbgaytheist 10 points11 points12 points 6 days ago
He looks like Richard Gere mated with a lawn gnome.
[–]skrillakilla 5 points6 points7 points 6 days ago
Reminds me of "Heart of Darkness"
[–]ramblinslim 2 points3 points4 points 6 days ago
If you support the Israeli occupation you probably shouldn't be taking potshots at "colonialists" without context.
[–]motgus 3 points4 points5 points 6 days ago
Doesn't every country have a history of colonialism?
[–]vargvnn 3 points4 points5 points 6 days ago
Sub-Saharan Africans are 100x better off thanks to Colonialism. Pretty sure they've had a nice population boom since those days. What were they doing for the thousands of years before?
[–]dumbgaytheist 2 points3 points4 points 6 days ago
Fuck Bill Maher. Since when has he been worried about offending anyone?
[–]ahtahrim 3 points4 points5 points 6 days ago
Just made this
[–]brain4breakfast 7 points8 points9 points 6 days ago
They're not African, they're Polynesian. However, you tried.
[–]MeditMike80 1 point2 points3 points 6 days ago
Bill Maher and most of reddit, you all are stupid. I read about this somewhere and on that particular island, which is still part if the commonwealth, the inhabitants themselves do this. Thank you for looking stupid fucktard politically correct idiots.
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