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[–]WoollyMittens 28 points29 points ago

As an ironic sign of the times, that shuttle hasn't got a prayer of going anywhere anymore.

[–]dormetheus 19 points20 points ago

Funny because Jack Parsons, the inventor of rocket fuel was an open occultist and considered himself an alchemist. Newton was also very interested in theology. What a couple of assholes, right?

[–]ScubaPlays 13 points14 points ago

Clearly they were ignorant theists.

[–]new_math 1 point2 points ago

Don't forget about that Neil Tyson guy. He's in astrophysics and denies being an atheist (proof)! what a tool. \sarcasm

[–]ghouls_and_knees 0 points1 point ago

An appeal to authority to make a false equivalence?

[–]Gyang193 8 points9 points ago

Jack lousma (nasa astronaut -skylab -apollo) said he prayed every time he got into a saturn or the space shuttle.

[–]MPK49 19 points20 points ago

Hey OP, how's highschool going?

[–]ArchangelleTightAss 41 points42 points ago

THIS IS ALMOST TOO BRAVE TO HANDLE

[–]The-Strike 26 points27 points ago

I'm reading 97 kilopauls on the Dawkins meter. Can anyone else confirm?

[–]NoMomo 11 points12 points ago

Roger that, err, we are reading about, about... Groundbase, can you confirm this, we are currently seeing over hundred kilopauls of bravery in atmo. I believe the bravestorm over Stockholm might have messed up the Dawkins meter, so double checking. Is this registering on your end? There is err... If the readings are correct there is a possibility of a of a level SO. Groundbase, can you confirm, are we nearing a full level SO? Over.

[–]stop_being-a-dick 5 points6 points ago

I just came bravery all over.

[–]woocheese 51 points52 points ago

Quite a few religious people involved in it though. Probably were actually a few engineers involved who used prayer to get through the hard hours and stresses involved.

[–]new_math 52 points53 points ago

It's true. In fact, the first food and drink consumed by mankind on a foreign celestial body was the communion bread and wine by buzz.

[–]SUMPDIDDLYUMP 16 points17 points ago

Don't know why you're being downvoted for something that's true.

http://www.snopes.com/glurge/communion.asp

[–]SUMPDIDDLYUMP 11 points12 points ago

I've always found this to be pretty moving:

Apollo 8 creation story message http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFIngdF6ND0

In fact, a large part of the reason you don't hear much about religion within NASA these days is because of that radio message; NASA got sued for broadcasting it. Before then, it was very common.

[–]new_math 10 points11 points ago

In fact, a large part of the reason you don't hear much about religion within NASA these days is because of that radio message

This is very true. Many of the engineers, scientist, and especially astronauts are devoutly religious people, but it's heavily suppressed and censored because NASA is a government organization and doesn't want to support a certain religion or doctrine, which seems fair and reasonable for the most part.

[–]NoMomo 4 points5 points ago

But, but... oppression?

[–]DKN19 1 point2 points ago

It oppression when you ban non-government employees from doing it.

[–]new_math 2 points3 points ago

Indeed. The lines do get blurred in the case of astronauts in space however, because of their unique position. If you ban them from prayer or practicing religion while working then they're basically banned from practicing their religion for days or weeks which is pretty shady. Interesting situation but NASA seems to handle it well.

[–]Rawtashk 6 points7 points ago

I highly doubt that any Christian thinks that prayer can offset physics, except on perhaps the EXTREMELY RARE occasion. Prayer isn't akin to the magical powers of Merlin, yet somehow 92.5038205% of atheists seem to think that Christians think it is.....

[–]What33 6 points7 points ago

People here seem to think that all Christians are evolution-denying creationists who still want Galileo dead for inventing the telescope.

[–]slightlyasleep -1 points0 points ago

It's easier to argue with extremists rather than moderates.

[–]el_matt 0 points1 point ago

Man, fuck Galileo. Who wants to see this shit, anyway? /s

[–]HateHumanity 1 point2 points ago

I wish I could frame this comment.

[–]bringurown6pack 1 point2 points ago

This. They are more likely to pray for god to give the scientists the knowledge they need to achieve such things. And when such things are achieved, PESTO! god answers prayers.

[–]ghouls_and_knees -1 points0 points ago

I highly doubt that any Christian thinks that prayer can offset physics, except on perhaps the EXTREMELY RARE occasion.

Believing it can happen even once is just as idiotic.

[–]Rawtashk 0 points1 point ago

You missed/ignored my entire point. Looks like you fit into the 92%

[–]dguevara 0 points1 point ago

They also used coffee, but I think prayer is what kept them going. If only there was some caramel-soya-prayerccino at starbucks

[–]ScubaPlays 4 points5 points ago

There's a difference between staying physically awake and staying mentally stable.

[–]firefox5 1 point2 points ago

I'd go for some caramel-soya-prayerccino. Christian coffee shop anyone?

[–]amyfarrahfowlerphd 0 points1 point ago

There's plenty of them in Southern California. I've never been inside one, but I bet Kirk Cameron would be one hell of a barista.

[–]evilcanuck 11 points12 points ago

according to facebook God you can we just have not tried hard enough

[–]InactiveUser 2 points3 points ago

What's that? Like a prayer score?

[–]This_guy_is_rude 1 point2 points ago

In my greatest effort to pray harder than anyone ever before me, I shit myself.

[–]u0da2 -4 points-3 points ago

fuck facebook and fuck facebook god and fuck everyone who comments on facebook god.

[–]n3onfx 0 points1 point ago

Now now, hush little one, mommy is going to make you a hot chocolate, you'll see everything will be fine.

[–]u0da2 1 point2 points ago

Will it have marshmallows in?

[–]n3onfx 1 point2 points ago

If you behave, maybe.

[–]gmb0044 16 points17 points ago

Except some religious people made this happen. You didn't do shit. R/atheism needs to stop trying to claim all scientific achievement for themselves when the vast majority of the subreddit have nothing to do with the field of science.

[–]Stackman32 11 points12 points ago

FALSE. Being an atheist and enrolled in at least one 100-level science or math course automatically qualifies you as a scientist.

[–]gmb0044 9 points10 points ago

Pft. I don't need formal education to be a scientist. I have YouTube videos that I learn from to own fundies on Facebook.

[–]stdtm 0 points1 point ago

I just received my PhD in Physics from Khan Academy - Checkmate, theists.

[–]ok_otter 0 points1 point ago

As an engineering student, Khan is legit.

[–]cumfarts 25 points26 points ago

Nothing to do with atheism

[–]Cleminou -3 points-2 points ago

Totally agree, you can be atheist without trusting in science. Because yes, science is a "trust".

[–]StickSauce 2 points3 points ago

Unless you verify it which is a (if not the) defining characteristic of science. You verify the sciences all the time, mostly informally. Understanding something then verifying it experimentally does not quite have the paradigm shift you would expect, which is why experimentation isn't really to verify something, it's to discredit.

[–]Sun_Kami 16 points17 points ago

You guys in /r/atheism are a bunch of humanity majors who like quoting Sagan and bringing science most of you probably know nothing about. Nothing.

You are just trying to make a religion about shit you don't even know. But some pop scientist like Kaku or Tyson Degrass, whatever, says he doesn't believe in a God and you fags all hop on his dick.

Einstein believed in God. He was a real physicist. You niggas wouldn't know what, though.

As a student of physics and science, we don't go around talking about how we have a serene knowledge about why religion is false. We have work to do. You niggas should get to work and start studying this stuff for yourself rather than taking it for granted.

Imma slamt all ya'll in this ghetto ass fruitless subreddit which is just as bad as those religifags

[–]What33 6 points7 points ago

No real scientist, except for maybe Richard Dawkins, goes around talking about how religion hates science. It's only second order commentators on science that say this nonsense. But most real scientists are humble enough to realize enough that just because they've discovered a few natural laws, they haven't mastered the secrets of the universe.

[–]DKN19 0 points1 point ago

Victor Stenger?

[–]GOD_Over_Djinn -5 points-4 points ago

Um actually science has disproved god, you must not have read The God Delusion. You need to educate yourself a little bit before you post shit like this in a thread full of actual scientists.

[–]DryvBy 37 points38 points ago

I'm a scientist with a PhD. I confirm what this boy is saying. I am 12 and so is he.

[–]Creole_Bastard 2 points3 points ago

May the Science Spirit be with you. Always.

[–]youngjheezy 22 points23 points ago

Holy shit, a book that proves whether or not God exists!

[–]Sun_Kami 9 points10 points ago

you're a goddam scrub bro we about to be fighting if I saw you if you believe that science can disprove god, you must have a very poor understanding of science. In sciences like these, the natural sciences, you can't prove anything. We just have things that fit models. Kid going to come up to me and be like I gotta educate myself whereas if this thread is actually full of scientists, they apparently agree with what I'm saying. And I ain't reading no scrub ass biased book trying to make a religion out of science. I ain't no bitch

[–]GOD_Over_Djinn -2 points-1 points ago

We just have things that fit models and no model to explain god ergo there is no scientific proof of god ergo science proves there is no god. It's not complicated but fundies are indoctrinated from a young age not to be able to follow basic logic. Scientists, on the other hand, like the kind that populate this very subreddit, make logical reasoning their career. That means they can follow logic like i just laid out for you and like Dawkings, Hitchins, NGT, William Nye, and so forth, all have laid out a hundred times in this subreddit. It's notmy fault if you're too stupid to follow basic science.

[–]PhD_in_LOGIC 3 points4 points ago

no model to explain god ergo there is no scientific proof of god ergo science proves there is no god

If humans can't understand it, it does not exist.

LOGIC'D!

Edit: Poe's Law

[–]x1000Bums 0 points1 point ago

I'm pretty sure you're trolling but i felt like this was an opportunity to flex my superior brain. I guess you have developed a system of logic where negations can be moved about freely in a statement. see, normally these rules apply: not necessarily != necessarily not, not possible != possbily not. however in the GOD_Over_Djinn system of formal logic no evidence of x being the case is equivalent to there is evidence that x is not the case.

[–]nopeurwrong 0 points1 point ago

fuck me that was some terrible ass logic. please do not relate this to the specifics of your point, but to the mechanics of your reasoning.

[–]HtotheGRIFF 0 points1 point ago

actual scientists

...

[–]oreography 1 point2 points ago

I am also a 12 year old scientist and can confirm gOD is a lie

[–]cardinalwolsey 2 points3 points ago

SHut up guys he is correct in stating God is false.

[–]GFYSAD 1 point2 points ago

/sarcasm...... right?

[–]DKN19 -2 points-1 points ago

Einstein believed in God.

From wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Albert_Einstein

(61 references on page)

"It seems to me that the idea of a personal God is an anthropological concept which I cannot take seriously. I feel also not able to imagine some will or goal outside the human sphere. My views are near those of Spinoza: admiration for the beauty of and belief in the logical simplicity of the order which we can grasp humbly and only imperfectly. I believe that we have to content ourselves with our imperfect knowledge and understanding and treat values and moral obligations as a purely human problem—the most important of all human problems."

Do some research before you post kthnxbye.

Chem major here. Throughout human history, we've replaced supernatural explanations with natural ones. The reverse has never happened.

[–]mishtram 1 point2 points ago

kthnxbye

Oooooh he's got you there Sun_Kami

[–]Sun_Kami 2 points3 points ago

I never said what kind of God he believed in. Don't get it twisted. I can see both sides. There are actually more sides than that. I mean, there is so much more than believing a god or not. There is so much in between. Don't dwell it on. Kthxbai work on dat chem, it's better than determining if X physicist believes in god. I mean, their physics and science should be affecting your life, not their goddam philosophical views

[–]DKN19 -1 points0 points ago

He doesn't believe in a personal god, that is, a theistic god. Don't move the goalposts. You meant god in a very narrow sense and now you're backtracking. There are not too many atheists that are against the use of the figurative 'god' as an expression. We just don't see god as a supernatural higher being. Neither does Einstein apparently, but that didn't stop you from using him as an example.

[–]Dzungana 4 points5 points ago

i did and it obviously worked

[–]xMrComptonx 2 points3 points ago

...but you can pray for a safe return.

[–]Aschebescher 1 point2 points ago

http://i.imgur.com/MiC5j.gif

[–]What33 1 point2 points ago

I wonder how many of the people who spend their time making .gifs like this are actually out there advancing science and how many of them are 13 year olds in their mother's basements.

[–]koavf 0 points1 point ago

No one said you could. This is not about atheism.

Who is upvoting this and why?

[–]camnui 5 points6 points ago

Its been said before but.... YALL MOTHERFUCKERS NEED SCIENCE!!!!

[–]Mrcopolo199 3 points4 points ago

Someone should make a picture with that... Like the black lady one, except it says science!

[–]hehasthejazzhands 10 points11 points ago

Close enough?

[–]Tinie_Snipah -1 points0 points ago

I believe there is a NdGT image of this

[–]camnui 0 points1 point ago

they have, I just cant find the picture....

[–]RedderNeckanize 5 points6 points ago

(My view as a Christian) God: Creates universe. Man: Creates science to understand the universe.

If science points to evolution, chances are its real. If science points towards life on other planets, it’s real. Science gives human understanding to the universe around us and is separate from a creator of the universe.

I think the whole pray harder jokes and whatnot are a specific group of people. In my church none thinks that someone should pray for someone else who is sick or injured and then not want them to go to the hospital.

Also Atheists and Christians can be Scientists. Neither one is automatically smarter than the other. Neither one of them is automatically a better person.

[–]Lord_Derp_The_2nd -4 points-3 points ago

If you're going to re-interpret your faith so far from the literal text of your faith, why do you feel you require it?

This whole idea that you can have a personal interpretation of the bible, a book you will say was inspired by a divine omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient being who is infallible - that he got it wrong and has it open to interpretation...

I'm out of my head on pain cold meds right now - but this viewpoint infuriates me. If you are at the point where you're re-writing your religion for yourself, then just scrap the whole damn thing and live how you want.

Again, sorry - cold meds. Just cannot comprehend this.

[–]goeraz -1 points0 points ago

So, I either need to be extremist, or not be religious at all?

Why should I be told how and what to believe? I know that's not your motive or meaning and you may not even belong to the /r/atheism hivemind, but just in case, science doesn't belong to atheism so that no religious person have the right to express it too, as am sure you know that many religious persons contributed to this same science some people claim to own.

[–]Lord_Derp_The_2nd -1 points0 points ago

It seems a bit like saying you're on a diet, except chocolates. You can eat the hell out of chocolates.

Aren't you just picking and choosing which stories to read, and how to interpret them? If so, why bother with the book at all? You already know how you would interpret it all - just be a good person.

[–]goeraz 0 points1 point ago

How about : I along a bunch of others like me, are reading Quran, we see it as best as we can, relating to who we are, and what we are in, and it's working out well, we see other people fucking themselves up RIGHT at the things we disagree upon, we are trying to reason with them as much as we can, some listen some don't.

[–]HalfwayInLight -1 points0 points ago

a book you will say was inspired by a divine omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient being who is infallible

And yet was written by people who followed different legal systems, different moral systems and lived thousands of years ago. The was translated hundreds of times by different people into different languages. There are Christians who believe the Bible is pure and unchangeable, but they are the minority.

[–]Lord_Derp_The_2nd -2 points-1 points ago

Why bother reading or believing any of it at all then?

If you strip out all the differences from all the versions and revisions, and translated quirks - aren't you left with a rather bare basic monotheism? Then look at how the Jews and Muslims fractured off the same core story - I mean if you can process information to a point where you realize a lot of whats in the book is bronze-age garbage just put there by whoever was writing it - why the hell do you live your life by it?

[–]Bravetoasterr 2 points3 points ago

Just because loud mouthed crazies pervert and try to dictate the meaning of a few drops of ink on a few sheets of paper doesn't mean you need to bow down and accept it. There are more than one way to interpret many texts.

Hope you feel better btw.

[–]Lord_Derp_The_2nd 0 points1 point ago

Feeling a bit better. I suppose brainless on meds is better than sneezing all day.

IDK - I guess what I'm getting at is why do people specify themselves as Christians if they can see how much of the bible is crap. Why not Deists, or Agnostics? Wouldn't those terms be more appropriate?

[–]RedderNeckanize 1 point2 points ago

The thing is I am not re-writing anything. The laws I follow are the laws Jesus asks. The way I live is the way Jesus asks.

 -  At least as good as I can...I still slip up a lot.

Much of the text is not suppose to be literal but metaphorical examples or teachings. (They are truths not facts)

I hope you feel better.

[–]Lord_Derp_The_2nd 0 points1 point ago

Feeling a little better, thanks.

The thing is, not too long ago those same stories weren't seen as metaphors - they were taken at face value. Then some thing or another pops up, and we see how ridiculous it is to take it at face value, and the church goes all doublespeak and says it was always meant as allegory.

Then there's the passages that were stripped out by a tribunal of dudes who decided which Jesus stories they wanted and which they didn't;

Apocrypoha Silly Cracked Article

How can you take any solace in what you read when it's been that filtered. It's clearly an engineered piece of literature, with the motives of those men baked into it.

[–]RedderNeckanize 0 points1 point ago

You are very correct on this.

In the first Vatican counsel many teachings were harsh and well it was a pretty scary way of teaching. Eventually the Vatican and that in reality they weren’t teaching what Jesus was teaching and wanted to get a little closer to that. That’s where we are today and it will continue to change. - Hopefully towards peace.

Many many books came out after Jesus with thousands of stories. Many were strange. The people who controlled which stories were "official" basically looked at the writers and the stories. Some stories did not match with the others. Some authors were known to be frauds. And the intentions of each were examined.

Now I am sure the bible has bias in it. It has to. After all humans made it. It has corruption as well. But I guess in the end it is I just believe there is a God. I know you are looking for a definite answer but really I don’t have one. (sorry) I believe because that’s what I am drawn to.

[–]deathbydullcubicle -2 points-1 points ago

The reason why you're able to gradually distance yourself from the religion to the point where you are is because you're already equipped to know or eventually handle all of the things that manage to remain mainstream in social norms. All it really comes down to is having a better grasp of empathy, which is far more beneficial than believing in the goodness of something either because "it just is" or because someone, text or other told you so.

[–]RedderNeckanize 0 points1 point ago

I understand where you are coming from (I was atheist for until ~ 16) I do not do things because texts tell me to, and I know anyone can be a good person without believing in God. With that said I still find myself believing that there is a creator and there are several things that I have overcome in my life in which my faith helped.

[–]ScubaPlays 0 points1 point ago

If you believe in the Christian God then you are a Christian. It doesn't mean you have to believe every word written in the bible. You can accept that humans wrote the book trying to comprehend something that is much greater than them. That doesn't mean everything they've written is wrong.

Also if God did have a role in helping to write the bible, try explaining to a 2 year old how the universe is created. You can attempt to explain every single detail and the science behind it but it's very unlikely they'd understand. In the end you're gonna just make up shit and call it a day.

[–]Lord_Derp_The_2nd 0 points1 point ago

Also if God did have a role in helping to write the bible, try explaining to a 2 year old how the universe is created. You can attempt to explain every single detail and the science behind it but it's very unlikely they'd understand. In the end you're gonna just make up shit and call it a day.

Sorry. I get the point you're trying to make here - but it just sounds silly. The Chinese were rather sufficiently advanced (significantly more so than the Jewish people) at the time the bible was written - why didn't the Christian god appear to them and have them write it, then?

And if he's all powerful, and all knowing, capable of crating the universe - I would hope he's a good enough speaker to properly convey these ideas into this tome.

But he works in mysterious loopholes, right? That's the heart of what pisses me off, is the elusive nature of this mindset - it's so futile to have a fair discussion when your opponents build their arguments on shifting sands.

[–]ScubaPlays 0 points1 point ago

I would hope he's a good enough speaker to properly convey these ideas

It's less about the ability of the speaker and more about the ability of the listener.

[–]Lord_Derp_The_2nd 0 points1 point ago

The listener he made in his image?

[–]ScubaPlays 0 points1 point ago

At least we'd like to think that wouldn't we? That'd make us the most important things ever!

[–]Lord_Derp_The_2nd 0 points1 point ago

Why do we need the validation of being hand crafted by a fictional being that can craft universes in order to feel important? lol.

[–]ScubaPlays 0 points1 point ago

Some do. Most every religion has their followers as the "choosen ones".

[–]Traniz 0 points1 point ago

Jebediah doesn't like religion since it hinders his dream to conquer the sun.

[–]Salyangoz 2 points3 points ago

that is a nice font. what is it?

[–]Tropical_Fruit 2 points3 points ago

Of course you can't pray it to the sky, Prayers don't work that way, but you can pray for scientists so they can come up with new technologies :) Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind. - A. Einstein

[–]Tukfssr 2 points3 points ago

lol le SCIENCE xD dum xtians need to go leav earth n so we can progress as a speces, spaceships are launched with science not religion stupid skytheist

[–]EricTheWeirdo -1 points0 points ago

lol fagit

[–]Tukfssr 0 points1 point ago

shut up u xtian ad hominem

[–]EricTheWeirdo -1 points0 points ago

our lord NdGT wuld be ashamd of u.

[–]SpeedCola 0 points1 point ago

But you can hope it doesn't turn into fireworks on its way there.

[–]zoltek 9 points10 points ago

And we use science to make sure it doesn't! Hear, hear!

[–]placebo_domingo -4 points-3 points ago

Science isn't perfect. That's why we need hope.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_spaceflight-related_accidents_and_incidents

[–]DKN19 1 point2 points ago

Or better engineering. Just a thought.

[–]placebo_domingo 0 points1 point ago

Do you believe there will be a point in history when all science is perfect? I don't. We will always need better engineering. We will always need hope.

[–]DKN19 0 points1 point ago

Religion isn't the only place to find hope. It's not even the best place to find hope.

[–]placebo_domingo 1 point2 points ago

It's not the best for you but it is for other people. It's not really a choice you can make for anyone except yourself.

[–]DKN19 -1 points0 points ago

Considering all the baggage that hope is attached to, I can't say that it's justified to judge religion as a positive-sum experience.

The bad that comes from presupposing the unknowable existence of a god, the assumption of what His morality entails, and the incoherent belief that nature can be suspended for any reason far outweighs whatever hope you get from it.

Religion is like replacement referees in the NFL. The rules have become incoherent and everyone suffers for it.

[–]3DBeerGoggles 3 points4 points ago

As my father always says:

"If you have a wish in one hand and shit in the other, what do you have?

[–]berberine 2 points3 points ago

My grandma always used to say, "Wish in one hand, shit in the other, and see which one gets filled the fastest."

[–]Sokonomi -1 points0 points ago

That's obviously because god thinks puny humans do not belong in his awesome space.

Its where he keeps all of his cool stuff.

[–]do_not_follow 1 point2 points ago

Nonsense. I said a prayer asking the Lord to guide this rocket to space and it worked. Explain that!

check mate, atheists.

[–]needtechsupport 0 points1 point ago

Faith: because you can't guarantee it will return.

[–]orp0piru 0 points1 point ago

With science you spray it into space.

[–]demon1255 1 point2 points ago

HAHA HEY GUISE PRAYER DOESN'T WORK.

[–]sw1tched 1 point2 points ago

You all are more pushy about your non-beliefs than Christians are about their beliefs

[–]painperdu 0 points1 point ago

Is it pushy to say that prayer does not work?

[–]y616 1 point2 points ago

Is this one of the other thousand "lol i dispruv god" threads ? Yeah it is.

[–]adzug 1 point2 points ago

even the most ardent fundamentalist knows this. why doesnt the taliban just pray for the collapse of the west if they believed that shit? because guns and bombs work. chemistry works. pray aint do shit. amen.

[–]barrasargtlin 1 point2 points ago

are there no prayer powered rockets? how did jesus get to heaven then?

[–]painperdu -1 points0 points ago

Why can't religious people just pray away Atheism?

[–]znhunter -1 points0 points ago

Reeeeeeeeeeeeepost.

[–]manuel_robot_cleaner 0 points1 point ago

In theory, you could simply launch thousands of praying religious people out of the engines to propel you skyward. Dunno where you would put them though.

[–]seabear338 0 points1 point ago

Can i have a high res image of this please?

[–]LastDawnOfMan -1 points0 points ago

I've been really confused about Christian's ideas about prayer, and have been too shy to ask any of them about it, since they probably don't know themselves and would get angry at me as a result:

Basically, what is prayer supposed to accomplish? -If you pray for God to help someone, does that imply that God wouldn't help that person if you didn't do that prayer? If so, does this imply that God only helps popular people? Or does it imply that God didn't know about the problem until you pointed it out, and so he's not really omniscient? -If God would help these people regardless of whether you pray for them, what's the purpose of praying, then? Is God not omniscient enough to hear everything you think and wish for unless you do some formal procedure to "talk to him"? Is it just to give brownie points for yourself when you pray only for selfless things? Is God fooled by this, do you think?

Just wondering. If I posted this on any of the Christian reddits, I expect I would just get expelled for asking.

[–]alectheman 0 points1 point ago

I upvoted this and I'm Christian, why because its true.

[–]Dr_Medic345 4 points5 points ago

Grow up people, so he is a Christian. Take Dawkin's Cock out of your mouth.

Here come the downvotes

[–]alectheman 0 points1 point ago

Thanks, hopefully they don't won vote you as much.

[–]Fundarko 0 points1 point ago

And yet you'd better believe the astronauts do exactly that.

[–]julysfire -1 points0 points ago

That is great, I'm saving this picture

[–]Neurologica 0 points1 point ago

If you try pray that into space, you're going to have a bad time

[–]ocellot9119 0 points1 point ago

Why can't atheists avoid falling into the same judgmental attitudes that religious zealots have? You are right, and you know you are. Why not stop there? A bunch of atheists talking shit about religion is a sad circle-jerk.

[–]Jayzar -2 points-1 points ago

This image is so full of win!!

[–]Tricksy314 0 points1 point ago

Wtf this doesn't even make sense...

[–]theroyalgala -2 points-1 points ago

Science and religion are NOT (for the most part) contradictory!

[–]theroyalgala -1 points0 points ago

Okay who downvoted me and didn't have the decency to at least explain why they disagree? Fucking pathetic... Some atheists really are just as bad (and even worse) than the most radical of religious nutters. Get a fucking life you twit, wherever you are.

[–]Zsync -2 points-1 points ago

When things get hot, turn on the prayer conditioning.

[–]Meingos -1 points0 points ago

Fuck yeah!

[–]Captain_Ligature 0 points1 point ago

Boy am I going to love the next r/circlebroke r/atheism megathread.

[–]orange_kevin 0 points1 point ago

The letter spacing in that font gives me a headache.

Its sad that that's what I took from this image.

I need to re-evaluate my life.

Wait, I'm doing a design degree.

Yeah. I need to re-evaluate my life.

[–]Gaziel -1 points0 points ago

As if you have to pray for anything to happen...

[–]Lord_Ciar -4 points-3 points ago

Mine was the 666th karma. This pleases me.

[–]duudass -2 points-1 points ago

Science: like magic, without the lies...

[–]MakoBoy -3 points-2 points ago

Probably plenty of people who prayed for space shuttles to be made and are now giving god all the credit.

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