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[–]shotlersama 81 points82 points ago

upvote for spartacus. NEW IN JANUARY!

[–]Magoo2 35 points36 points ago

I was also surprised to see a Spartacus gif on Reddit. Love the show. Miss Andy Whitfield =(

[–]Roast_Toast 6 points7 points ago

Meeeeeh, As much as I miss Andy, Liam is growing on me.

[–]infuegotwat 8 points9 points ago

So i quit watching after the first actor passed on. He made the show for me. Is it worth starting up again? Seems like i would never get past that it is not him

[–]QUESTION_MARK_ 8 points9 points ago

If the switch even remotely bothers you, you'll rage hard when you see Naevia again..

[–]niallmc66 2 points3 points ago

Don't tell me they changed the actress who plays her?

[–]QUESTION_MARK_ 2 points3 points ago

[–]niallmc66 2 points3 points ago

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

[–]-Dervish 1 point2 points ago

To be fair, the other Naevia seemed far too pretty, cute and shy to come anywhere near the roll she would have been required to fill. I don't really like the new Naevia, but I say she does a good job of being a depressive, emotionally handicapped, beaten rape victim.

[–]QUESTION_MARK_ 1 point2 points ago

Agree absolutely.

[–]The_Voice1 2 points3 points ago

I felt the same way but to be honest I think Liam did a fine job. After two or three episodes I was very pleased that they managed to pull it off with a new actor.

[–]Xeno234 1 point2 points ago

I think it's worth it. Then again, the switch never bothered me.

[–]TARDIS 4 points5 points ago

ASHUR SHOULD HAVE BEEN BOYFRIEND!When the fuck did you CUNTS ever treat Ashur with any respect?!

[–]pop_the_clutch 4 points5 points ago

I . . . AM . . . SPAAARTAACUUUUUSSSS

[–]CaptainDickbag 100 points101 points ago

I don't think anyone actually talks about that.

[–]Basbhat 29 points30 points ago

no i've definitely heard girls talk about it. they know exactly what they're doing. they admit it, they just want attention sometimes.

is it a fucking stupid thing to do? yeah it is, do I feel bad for the guys, usually. but its really their choice to be in that situation.

they dont necessarily say friendzone but i know plenty of girls who have a guy or two that doesn't have a chance, but they pretend like he does.

[–]Black_Light 100 points101 points ago

I've known guys that do the exact same thing. Some people are just attention whores.

I lived with a guy once (A real ladies man) that had about 4 girls on a leash at any given time. They were all madly in love with him but he would never pursue intimate relations with any of them. He just loved hanging around with girls who adored him.

Is that so bad? In it's own right, No. But this guy would flirt with these girls, and lead them on something fierce. I felt sorry for them.

People love to criticize the term 'friendzone', alleging that the guys are wrong for wanting something sexual from their friendship, which is most cases is true. But just like the guy I lived with, it does actually happen. I wouldn't really call it 'friendzoning', it's just leading people on. People need to make a distinction between a girl or guy 'turning someone down' and just wanting to be friends, and them deliberately leading them on with no intention of taking it anywhere. They are very different things.

Also, please don't down-vote people like Basbhat, just because you don't agree with what he said. He's contributing more to this discussion than the slurry of comments like "I call bullshit".

[–]Basbhat 5 points6 points ago

I'm not saying this behavior is exclusive to women, just out of the people I know there aren't any guys who are just drowning in women who want to screw them.

its more common with girls I know that they have 3-5 guys who all want to screw them, and let it be said not al girls are like this, one girl i know actively rejects this advances because she has no interest and I think its commendable. sadly not all girls do this, and some really do like (or need?) the attention.

I knew a girl like that, and it messed me up, because I didn't know why she did the things she did, I mean I was still basically a kid at the time, now I realize none of it was personal and had actually nothing to do with me, but her own issues.

[–]Black_Light 23 points24 points ago

Absolutely, as I mentioned above, people need to make a distinction between a girl or guy 'turning someone down' and just wanting to be friends (Which is fine), and them deliberately leading someone on with no intention of taking it anywhere (Which is not). They are very different things.

[–]Basbhat 3 points4 points ago

exactly and in one of those situations the person is being responsible. and in the other they're being a fucking cunt lol.

[–]GreenGlassDrgn 1 point2 points ago

Imagine how easily such a situation could be solved through verbal communication.
"Would you ever fuck me?"
"Yes," carry on.
"No," move on.

[–]Basbhat 6 points7 points ago

right because a question like that doesn't decrease your chances at actually getting laid exponentially ಠ_ಠ

seriously? do you think girls appreciate that question? I think it would be fair to say no matter what her answer will be "not anymore"

unless its the right context, if you're drunk at a bar and have that sort of relationship then sure. but thats not going to be a very successful approach to most women

[–]Black_Light 5 points6 points ago

I think he's just hypothesising. I.e. Imagine how easily the problem would be solved if people were able to ask questions like that without the social repercussions that you just mentioned.

[–]leanansidhe 5 points6 points ago

I agree this does make the situation quite a bit easier 95% of the time. You could just say something like "hey I feel like there is more between us than just friendship. Do you feel the same way?" I had a friend ask me that and I said no and I don't think that it was too painful for either side (we are still friends anyways).

The problem occurs in the other 5% of the time. I had a friend who would friendzone guys because she had no self confidence and really needed the attention, so any time one of her "friends" started to lose interest or talk to other girls, she started leading them on hard core and talking about how she might be ready for a real relationship soon. So asking a person like that if they are interested would not help at all.

[–]Basbhat 1 point2 points ago

ahh well in that case it would be quite helpful really.

also just remembered ryan gosling does it crazy stupid love, but honestly, we're not all ryan gosling, mother fucker could get away with anything.

I have actually had this conversation with women.

I ask "If ryan gosling walked up to you wherever, the market, target, a bar, doesn't matter. and said 'hey beautiful, wanna sleep with me?' what would you say?"

and do you know what they all say? of course you do, because ryan gosling is the luckiest man on the planet.

[–]Erasus 1 point2 points ago

You sound like a rambling 15 year old

[–]GreenGlassDrgn 0 points1 point ago

Maybe he is Ryan Gosling?

[–]ChingShihYang 1 point2 points ago

Some people do appreciate it. How does the persons sex play into a preference to have openly professed intentions and clear communication about those, I wonder.

[–]Basbhat 0 points1 point ago

it'd be interesting to find out.

I feel like asking that would just lead the women to think you only want sex (whether you do or not) so if thats what she wants then I'm sure she wouldn't mind the question, if she was potentially thinking about dating you that thought is most likely gone by now.

[–]ChingShihYang 0 points1 point ago

One could phrase it to be about romance instead.

Well, the question is not: "Would you want to explore a romantic partnership with me?" I see where there might be a problem in communications ones wishes to have that, if one only inquires about sexual possibilities.

[–]Basbhat 0 points1 point ago

well its about how the person thinks,

because i really would only want to have sex with someone I wanted to pursue for the most part. and humans as a rule tend to subconsciously assume other people would act the same way they would in a situation because thats a reasonable way to act. so if I feel this way I assume she feels this way and nobody knows whats going on lol

[–]GreenGlassDrgn 1 point2 points ago

unless its the right context

is rather universal no matter how smooth you are.
Am pretty sure this question, or an equivalent thereof, has initiated most of my sexual encounters - communication can be nifty like that.

[–]mmmw 3 points4 points ago

Well unless the girl explicitly confesses her feelings, the guy cant really go "hey, I know you like me, but it wont work out" now can he? And nothing wrong with trying to stay friends with people you like but just arent attracted to romantically. Maybe you're reading too much into the situation.

[–]flying-sheep 4 points5 points ago

Then the rejectee says “lol who told you i was interested in you” and maybe even goes as far as to tell all his friends how she hit on him.

Things aren't always easy if feelings are involved.

[–]ChingShihYang 0 points1 point ago

Being insulted when turning down someone, even if done politely and respectfully, is what I have come to expect. It mostly validates the rejection.

[–]heshroot 1 point2 points ago

This is exactly how guys end up in the friend zone and how girls view the friend zone. 9/10 the guys is just too beta to ever fess up and make a move so the girl just always assumes that their relationship in platonic, even if the guy wants more.

[–]Teh_Warlus 2 points3 points ago

no i've definitely heard guys talk about it. they know exactly what they're doing. they admit it, they just want attention sometimes.

is it a fucking stupid thing to do? yeah it is, do I feel bad for the girls, usually. but its really their choice to be in that situation.

they dont necessarily say wife-beating but i know plenty of guys who have a girl or two that won't be treated better, but they pretend like she does.

tl;dr: there exists such a thing as an abusive relationship, it doesn't require physical beating to cause damage.

[–]xtfftc -1 points0 points ago

The sad thing is that as the idea becomes more and more popular (no matter how wrong), some girls will actually start doing it as a way to manipulate guys, even though they didn't use to.

P.S. Being friendly to someone without being interested in sleeping with them is perfectly fine and always has been.

[–]TuskedOdin 0 points1 point ago

You missed a comma there champ… I'll let you find it, first paragraph.

[–]xtfftc 2 points3 points ago

Not just a comma, the whole sentence went very wrong due to editing :(

[–]Lord_Attikus 51 points52 points ago

I "Friendzone" chicks all the time. Its not really that dick of a thing to do, its just that im not interested in pursuing a romantic relationship with that person. There isn't anything wrong with that. I have friends that I don't care to pursue romantically because, they are my friends.

[–]tiny_pony 241 points242 points ago

Were they 13 and imaginary?

[–]Scrauz 27 points28 points ago

Because people with bad intentions are not real. ಠ_ಠ

[–]moozaad 11 points12 points ago

shoes.

[–]jcopzzz 190 points191 points ago

I call bullshit, nobody seriously uses the word "friendzone" unless they're a fucking idiot who can't accept that girls just don't want to date them

stop using the word "friendzone" and your chances of getting laid will raise by 3%

[–]thebiggiewall 46 points47 points ago

+3% buff to chances of being laid. Does not stack.

[–]korkyshadow 5 points6 points ago

It gives you a +3 on your getting laid rolls too!

[–]LoyalCassius 9 points10 points ago

Shouldn't it be more like +1, given +3 on a d20 would be something like a 15% increase?

[–]Colehead 5 points6 points ago

Playing D&D is a primary requirement in a mate for me as well as having an IQ of above 135. A guy can be Brad Pitt and if he opens his mouth and moron falls out I am instantly drier than the Sahara.

[–]KhorneFlakeGhost 2 points3 points ago

Sounds like LoyalCassius is just right then.

[–]Kaibunny143 14 points15 points ago

never getting laid

[–]AdmiralSkippy 0 points1 point ago

I thought they fixed that in At The Gym making it stack with your muscle definition bonus?

[–]LoveOfProfit 16 points17 points ago

I want to see the scientific journal source on this.

[–]Phoenixx777 8 points9 points ago

Stop trying to make "friendzone" happen! It's not going to happen!

[–]MoogyOne -2 points-1 points ago

So I should start white knighting instead? How's that working out for you?

Some chicks are just cunts, the same way some guys are dicks.

[–]jcopzzz 7 points8 points ago

I'm not a "white knight" I'm a girl who thinks the concept of "friend zone" is fucking retarded.

If someone doesn't want to date you and wants to be friends, THAT'S IT. DONE. YOU WEREN'T PLACED IN ANY ZONE, YOU WERE DENIED. You should be mature enough to realize that not every girl is going to want to be with you, MOVE THE FUCK ON.

[–]MoogyOne 0 points1 point ago

Straight up saying "No, I do not want to fuck you" is very far removed from leading guys on for endless praise and free shit. One is a honorable way to deal with things the other is a despicable pile of human waste, defending the latter is just a waste of time, regardless of gender.

[–]AllanusMorrissette 7 points8 points ago

ah so not telling them you're not going to fuck them = leading guys on

When your default interpretation of niceness/gratitude is a fuck-promise, maybe you should unpeel the brazzers sticker on the inside of your warby parkers

[–]Blakdragon39 263 points264 points ago

Yeah I can totally hear that conversation.

"Hey Julie? Guess what guy I'm interested in, but am gonna friendzone because I feel like being a total cunt today?"

Or you know... they're not interested in certain people and that doesn't make them fucking cunts.

[–]DaddyDanceParty 28 points29 points ago

But there has to be an explanation as to why they don't want to date me!

[–]stop_being-a-dick 31 points32 points ago

that impressive beard on your neck might be intimidating them.

[–]Ionlywanttoinsultyou 29 points30 points ago

Yeah I've never heard of a girl sadistically friendzoning a guy because she's inherently evil, it's usually because they think he's pathetic or something.

[–]iamkush 16 points17 points ago

Yeah I've never heard of a girl sadistically friendzoning a guy because she's inherently evil, it's usually because they think he's pathetic or something.

A friend of mine actually called me up one day just to talk about all the guys she's fucking , and all the ones she's deliberately friendzoning at the same time so she can get clothes and jewelry from them. It's hard to believe, but there are a small number of women out there who are full out bitches and enjoy it. It's absolutely ridiculous in my opinion, and probably a big reason as to why I have such a deep fear of social events, lol.

[–]laddergoat89 4 points5 points ago

She is a bitch but those guys buying her stuff are also fucking lame idiots.

[–]Ionlywanttoinsultyou 7 points8 points ago

Well I mean, aside from ASPD, girls aren't really like that

[–]cp5184 0 points1 point ago

Selfish people exist? I'm sure you're mistaken.

[–]Ionlywanttoinsultyou 0 points1 point ago

I think 'selfish' is a fairly light assessment of the type of friend-zoning we're talking about. Selfish would "hey, he likes me, but I really can't stand the beatles and he loves them, so it just won't work based on that" not "I'm going to psychopathically manipulate every ounce out of this person that I can"

[–]LurkingLarkin 1 point2 points ago

sounds like you should reconsider this friendship

[–]Nimcenzo 2 points3 points ago

Sounds like complete bullshit.

What guy would randomly give a girl clothes/jewelry if they're not already going out. And certainly not multiple guys at once.

Plus what girl rings someone up just to tell them who they're fucking and "friendzoning".

[–]thatoneguy889 5 points6 points ago

A guy with really low self-esteem who thinks the gift will help the relationship move forward. They do exist.

[–]iamkush 1 point2 points ago

It happens. Oh believe me, it happens.

[–]I_TYPE_IN_ALL_CAPS 1 point2 points ago

I MET A YOUNG WOMAN IN COLLEGE WHO STATED VERY CLEARLY THAT THERE WAS A GUY WHO OBSESSED WITH HER, SHE WAS NOT INTO HIM, BUT SHE NEVER ACTUALLY TOLD HIM THIS BECAUSE HE WOULD LET HER BORROW HIS TRUCK. IN FACT, SHE WENT AS FAR AS AGREEING TO GO OUT ON DATES WITH HIM, ONLY TO CANCEL AND AVOID HIM AFTERWARD.

THEY DO EXIST.

[–]cp5184 1 point2 points ago

WHAT? People don't see themselves as cartoon villains and knowingly act like monsters?

But then how did the '08 economic crash happen? How did enron happen? How do wall street workers have parties where they dress up as homeless people they themselves foreclosed on!

[–]Ionlywanttoinsultyou 0 points1 point ago

I thought I was talking about ASPD recently...

why don't you read the other comments before you rehash the other ones?

[–]Shmemolovskii 9 points10 points ago

Exactly.

This guy (years ago) and I were friends and hanging out. Then he asked me to be his girlfriend out of nowhere, I said no but tried to still be friends.

He prank called my house and told my dad I was a "whore"

Yah I'm such a cunt

[–]TracyMorganFreeman 67 points68 points ago

There's more to friendzoning than just not being interested. It involves leading them on and taking advantage of the interaction.

[–]jmarFTL 123 points124 points ago

It also involves the guy being a huge fucking pussy.

[–]TracyMorganFreeman 119 points120 points ago

Generally it seems it's a miscommunication on both parties. Men don't have the same social networking tendencies women do and are often not as emotionally open with their friends, reserving that mostly for their lovers. When girls are emotionally open even in a genuinely platonic way, that can be interpreted by guys as a signal of interest on the part of the girl. This misunderstanding is two fold: the girl does not appreciate how guys treat emotional openness, and the guy does not understand what the girl is implying by her level of emotional openness.

How about we stop talking past each other while pointing fingers as to who is to blame and help more people realize that men and women for the most part do communicate differently and treat aspects of relationships both platonic and romantic differently as well.

[–]Kr0nos 14 points15 points ago

Your nick says TracyMorganFreeman but your words say Oprah.

[–]whyslashno 8 points9 points ago

Holyshit that was really well put

[–]narcoblix 12 points13 points ago

I will probably end up paraphrasing that in every one of these threads from now on. I'll try to attribute it back to you, but I will probly fail. Sorry bout that.

[–]TracyMorganFreeman 3 points4 points ago

No bigs, yo.

[–]Angstonit -1 points0 points ago

Clap. Clap. Clap.

[–]AndMen87 0 points1 point ago

are you saying I'll never get her ?

[–]cuddlep00p 9 points10 points ago

Hey, as a huge fucking pussy myself, I'm extremely offended!

[–]AndMen87 -1 points0 points ago

someone called ?

[–]rmhawesome 6 points7 points ago

Ok that sort of exploitation does exist, but often times a boy will offer his help and services and insist on being around, only digging the friendzone hole deeper

[–]futurelibrarian 21 points22 points ago

Not really. Maybe that is true for some cases, but the way reddit in general uses it, it has nothing to do with being led on.

[–]TracyMorganFreeman 0 points1 point ago

The term is tossed around without context so much people criticizing the term are criticizing the misused definition of it, and people using are often misusing it.

It's like a political debate of candidates talking past each other.

[–]athanasia_ 0 points1 point ago

Get back in /r/mensrights where you belong.

[–]cp5184 1 point2 points ago

YES!

Because if there's anything I've learned on reddit, the internet, and life in general, it's that people are totally aware of other people's situations and act unselfishly and are not narcissistic.

[–]iamkush -3 points-2 points ago

The friendzone is a real thing and actually exists. It's when people start using it as an excuse for their romantic failures and start applying it to all females in general that makes it lose its original meaning.

[–]_zurich 58 points59 points ago

This is the fakest shit ever. Girls don't just stand around and say "Ha ha! Yes, Melissa, I too friendzoned a guy today! Good work everyone, we're right on quota."

[–]nickdude77 5 points6 points ago

But i wanted to upvote the Spartacus gif...

[–]Imhere4lulz 0 points1 point ago

I always knew that Melissa was that kind of bitch

[–]Lethalgeek 19 points20 points ago

shitthatdidnthappen.txt

[–]carnieyb 135 points136 points ago

Girls are fucking cunts because they won't date every guy that treats them nicely? I was under the impression someone being vaguely nice to you obligated you to allow them to put their dick you. Stop flattering yourself guys, there's a reason you're single.

[–]victordavion 64 points65 points ago

It's different when someone openly admits to leading someone else on ( be it man or woman ). Leading people on is wrong and manipulative.

I used to do it and forever will feel guilty about it.

[–]antiquechrono 3 points4 points ago

I was eating at a restaurant with my friend and we could hear the table behind me having a conversation. This girl was going on about how she was just keeping this guy around in case her other plans didn't work out. The other girls seemed to like the idea. She went on to say that if she hadn't found anyone by the time she was 30 that she would settle for him. The only guy at the table kept trying to tell them how horrible the whole thing was. Brofist to that guy, also, he needs new friends.

[–]bertbargo 2 points3 points ago

This is totally unrelated but... Victor Ian Steiner Davion?

[–]victordavion 7 points8 points ago

The one and only.

[–]TinyViolin 4 points5 points ago

Stop flattering yourself guys, there's a reason you're single.

I agree, and this also applies to all those single women giving each other pep talks about how beautiful they are and bullshitting each other about how a good man who appreciates her will come along soon.

[–]cbarn 16 points17 points ago

Please stop thinking that every guy that asks a girl out was really asking permission to put his dick in her. Sometimes I really just want to get to know you better by going out on a date. Also don't forget these girls were comparing notes on who they led on and "friendzoned" so this isn't the everyday girls you meet on the street they went out and led boys on then turned them down when they finally worked up the courage to ask them out.

[–]Peter89 7 points8 points ago

The deliberate misleading of a person for the purpose of keeping them as a friend when in reality if they knew there was no chance at have a proper relationship they would focus their efforts on another person.

Guys are often looking for a relationship, not more friends.

[–]Nihilistic1 5 points6 points ago

i honestly dont understand how guys end up in the zone anyway. when i ask a girl out i specifically say lets go on a date. on the date i always make sure to at least touch them once in a sexual way. and if they ever say lets hang out in a way that sounds non romantic i squash that shit quick. guys get friendzoned because they're too afraid to take the risk of rejection.

[–]ObeseOstrich 5 points6 points ago

There are some girls who don't respond well to an overt approach. They would basically reject anyone who asks them out directly. However, a guy might get to know them, become friends, and charm them over time. I feel this exact scenario can trap many guys into the friend zone. It's harder to give up when they've invested a lot of time into someone already and have developed feelings for this person. It's also difficult for them to understand when they cannot "win"

[–]meaty99 1 point2 points ago

Men who develop a friendship with a woman in the hopes of being something more are likely to be disappointed and bitter when feelings aren't returned. Relationships need to develop organically, not from using friendship as a means to an end. Furthermore, if you're someone's friend, be just that. What kind of relationship would you have if you got it from being someone's cabana boy? Probably not going to be a very healthy one. It's easy to be manipulated when you're enamored with somebody, but hopefully you will have someone from the outside that makes you realize the manipulation and give you back a sense of agency.

Going back to my point of having a healthy friendship. If there is a healthy friendship already established between two people, then there is most likely an established sense of mutual trust and respect for one another. Wouldn't that give you more of a likelihood of getting into a relationship with that person? But even that at that point, intentions and feelings need to be clear, and they need to be respected.

[–]ObeseOstrich 0 points1 point ago

I agree, its definitely a risk. But you know, you've gotta take risks if you want to have a relationship. You take a risk asking a girl out and getting shot down. If the girl you're interested in isn't the type to say yes when asked out directly, then you're going to do whatever you think will maximize your chances with her. Becoming friends and getting to know her could give you a much better idea of whether shes worth dating before committing to an actual relationship. Or, as you said, it could lead to not having those feels returned and dude can end up bitter... its all a gamble. Just hopefully it pays off.

[–]Peter89 0 points1 point ago

Not all girls work that way.

[–]King_of_Swamp_Castle 0 points1 point ago

Imagine waking up as a guy, and realizing you've been paying for everything. Gas, food, movies. You mostly hang out with a group of friends, so it doesn't feel like your ever on a date, even when its just the two of you. You've dated people before, and so has she. But now you're both single, and single for a while. Then it hits you like a ton of bricks. "HEY, WERE DOING EVERYTHING A COUPLE DOES, WHY SHOULDN'T WE ACTUALLY BE A COUPLE?" The two of you meet up, and the conversation turns to relationships , so you, as a guy throw it out there "well, what about us? Why don't we go out? Her responce is "I've never thought that way about you. I don't like you like that. " But nothing changes, the two of you keep doing the same things, still acting like a couple, but never moving on to physical intimacy, causing the guy to ask again at a later date and time,

[–]Nihilistic1 0 points1 point ago

naww usually just say something like " hey lets bang" then they say "no" and i say "im gonna get drunk fuck you"

[–]P3chorin 2 points3 points ago

I was under the impression someone being vaguely nice to you obligated you to allow them to put their dick you.

This sentence makes my brain twist like a Chinese contortionist.

[–]CozyToes 8 points9 points ago

hrm. Seems like they were implied as bragging about specifically cock-blocking for fun.

[–]Dewgong444 8 points9 points ago

I'm fully aware why I'm single, thank you. But, I think you need to realize that not every guy that's nice to you wants to put his dick in you. We are not lust-fueled rape-monsters. We're fucking people (not literally). So jump on down from that high horse and realize that we (or maybe it's just me) would like to get to know people better.

[–]FigNinja 19 points20 points ago

To be fair, part of the criticism of 'friendzoning' is that these women are still hanging out with guys who are being their 'friends' in hopes of getting together. The women often being criticized for this are the same ones who are taking the guy at face value and believing they are just friends. They don't assume every guy that is being a friend to them wants to get with them. So when the guy just waits in the wings and never says anything, they treat him the same as any other friend.

The ones who realize he's attracted and take advantage of favors are horrid, but there are also just a lot of women out there who are assuming it's just a regular friendship when the guy secretly wants more. Then the guy ends up feeling resentful and it is a bit of a shock.

[–]Dewgong444 0 points1 point ago

I agree with this as well. There's often a case where the guy puts himself in a theoretical plane called the "friendzone". I have done this. And if the woman doesn't pick up on it, then the fault lies ultimately with no one really so long as no one's upset about it, which is not common. Then, fingers get pointed and it's not a fun time for anyone.

But, as you say, the ones who pick up on it and exploit that are, I do believe, the women the OP described with his gif.

[–]Bootpolish 0 points1 point ago

but there are also just a lot of women out there who are assuming it's just a regular friendship when the guy secretly wants more.

I don't know how true this is. I have to think those situations are the minority to be honest. But it's both participants fault. The longer there is ambiguity, the worse the whole situation is.

If the person doing the pursuing wants to be more than friends, then they have a responsibility to make that perfectly clear, and if rejected either accept that it's a friendship only or break off contact and move on.

If the person being pursued knows the pursuer wants more than friendship but doesn't have the balls to make a move, then they have a responsibility to not overly rely on the person and to make it perfectly clear that they just want to be friends. It's wrong to make use of someone emotionally and practically, when you know they are looking for more than friendship and you know that you aren't interested in more than friendship.

[–]luckyhandz 1 point2 points ago

Speak for yourself. I fill up with Premium Lust at the gas station. And the only reason I want people to jump on down from that high horse is so I can more easily jump on up. And rape it. With my dick.

Rape-monster 2012. Dick You Can Believe In.

[–]Dewgong444 0 points1 point ago

Finally, a funny comment in r/funny.

[–]carnieyb 0 points1 point ago

I'm sorry, but in every single experience with a guy I've ever had, they've never asked me out to "get to know me better" I don't think every guy that's nice to me wants to put their dick in me, but it seems like a common theme here is that a lot of guys do think that way.

[–]Dewgong444 0 points1 point ago

I like getting to know people better. When I ask someone out, it isn't with the primary motive of fucking them. I like to know people. I ask someone out so I can know them. So I can be like "yeah, this person's chill, let's do this again sometime" or "we don't click or whatever, oh well." And if it goes well and I like them I'll ask them out again and put on repeat until we are both comfortable with everything. Maybe that's just me, but I know I'm not the only one out there who does this.

So, on behalf of my gender, I apologize for all the jerks who simply want to "hit it and quit it".

[–]LeSouthAfricanSpy 0 points1 point ago

there's a reason you're single

Ouch

[–]akakaze 3 points4 points ago

What is this clip from?

[–]cuko 1 point2 points ago

[–]electricmice 9 points10 points ago

i loved asher and hated how he died. batiatus first, and asher second, the two characters that seemed most justified all the while doing evil.

[–]gammatide 3 points4 points ago

Ironically I literally hated Ashur more than I've hated any character in any media ever, including Joffrey

[–]electricmice 2 points3 points ago

yea i'm cool with that. he was made to be hated. you can also view joffrey as a retard and a product of his parent's incest. personally, the only character on tv i truly hate is skylar.

[–]_Wolfos 0 points1 point ago

Yeah, Ashur was pretty clever, while Joffrey is a retard.

[–]ooNegativeONEoo -1 points0 points ago

Asher's death was pure distilled bullshit. Of course I hated him, but as others have said, he was designed to be hated. But he was exceptionally good at it. He was a villain well beyond what even Batiatus was capable of. Batiatus was just selfish. Asher was evil. Then to get killed for some fucking girl power moment, ugh. No bastard has ever deserved better.

[–]electricmice 0 points1 point ago

yea the writing for his death was incredibly weak. he deserved better.

[–]_Wolfos 0 points1 point ago

I think it was well executed. He didn't die because the woman had bested him, he died because he thought he had won and in that moment he was killed.

[–]jakemyers7 0 points1 point ago

welp thanks for ruining that for me

[–]electricmice 0 points1 point ago

holy shit my bad dude. the show is old though. take solace in the fact that everybody dies eventually in spartacus, it's only a matter of when and how.

[–]jakemyers7 0 points1 point ago

I never heard of it until a friend recommended it and no worries.

[–]TheForceiswithus 47 points48 points ago

Perhaps if you didn't refer to women as "fucking cunts" you wouldn't be relegated to the friendzone...

[–]TwoLegsJoe 27 points28 points ago

But he's such a nice guy!

[–]studmuffffffin 15 points16 points ago

He never said he was in the friendzone. He just said they were talking about guys they put in the friendzone.

[–]expertonbreasts 2 points3 points ago

If you don't like someone, you don't like them.

[–]timedalkat 1 point2 points ago

Then don't jack em in the friend zone. Oh, wait. That would probably be ok.

[–]Sophieboopbop 3 points4 points ago

As a girl I can honestly say that I have in fact friendzoned at least a couple guys (not knowingly) just because I connect better with most guys better than girls and I have still never been close friends with a guy who hasn't tried to get in my pants.

[–]Colehead 6 points7 points ago

I've had this happen when the guy is friends with my husband and is still pissed that I friend zoned him. Sorry married and trying to get pregnant. Ended up killing our friendship even though I NEVER gave him any encouragement other than being my usual nurturing self. It's one of the risks of being female in nerdville and it sucks.

[–]JennThereDoneThat 10 points11 points ago

You haven't "friend zoned" anybody. You've just been friends with guys who wanted to sleep with you.

[–]vargonian 2 points3 points ago

You've just been friends with guys.

FTFY.

[–]QwothTheRaven 4 points5 points ago

IMO whatever defining boundaries two people agree on for their relationship is fine with me. What’s cruel is when one is making efforts and offerings for a certain relationship, and the other accepts the offerings but refuses the relationship. Basically, it’s impolite accept offerings that are outside the relationship that you want with that person. It’s fine to be social, you can even be flirty, but don’t let a nice guy take care of you unless you know he isn’t hoping for a relationship with you.

The reason for the strong language comes from frustration about the lie that women want a “nice guy.” They don’t. They want sex-appeal and socio-economic status. They can’t admit it because it’s the same reason women say men are shallow. So, the guys in the friend-zone get mad because the women are lying (to the guys and themselves). It’s a shocker for a nice guy to find out women are as shallow as men.

Which means the real problem is that humanity isn’t very good at wanting the things that are good for us. The guy in the friend-zone is probably pining away after a woman who is out of his league. I’ll wager though that he has also turned down a number of women who he didn’t find attractive enough. In the end love comes to the ones who find their own humanity in the midst of rejecting and being rejected.

[–]Wooshio 1 point2 points ago

Eh, why not just admit it and call it what it is "settling". We all want to get with someone who is attractive as possible. All this bullshit about inner beauty and humanity is garbage, and you know it. There is also nothing wrong with any of this, nor is it bad for us, it's just part of our nature.

[–]QwothTheRaven 0 points1 point ago

I feel your pain, friend. There's definitely a lot of rude awakenings in the whole process.

settling is an interesting concept, though. These days we have celebrities with such astronomical socio-economic status that no one we ever meet in real life is gonna compare. If we've ever thought "wow, I'd like to be with that person," then any relationship with someone you meet in real life is technically settling, right?

I think there is some beauty and humanity in acknowledging our own imperfections (none of us are movie stars) and in finding the qualities that we prefer in a real human being rather than an icon. It isn't idealistic, but this gritty kind of love is very real.

[–]ChingShihYang 1 point2 points ago

Women are individuals and it's pretty diverse in what we seek in a partner. Assuming that women lie, when expressing different preferences, is based on the assumption that we are uniform in what we seek.

[–]QwothTheRaven 0 points1 point ago

point taken :)

[–]Darkbro 1 point2 points ago

He was Spartacus' version of Little Finger. Loved Ashur's scheming.

[–]iizpotato 7 points8 points ago

I had to friendzone someone and was depressed for the whole week -_-

[–]darklink37 3 points4 points ago

Do girls actually use the term "friendzone" IRL?

[–]Mooshiga 17 points18 points ago

No.

[–]getthejpeg 0 points1 point ago

According to the OP they did. You don't have to believe the OP.

[–]skullturf 0 points1 point ago

I think only a very, very small percentage of women would ever use the word "friendzone" in real life to describe something they're doing to a guy.

I suppose it's possible that a nonzero number of women have, at some point in time. I don't think it's a common thing, and I think usually when guys complain about the "friendzone", it's counterproductive whining, but there nevertheless are probably a small number of women who deliberately do manipulative things and cackle about it to their friends. Definitely not common though.

[–]Cikedo 6 points7 points ago

Discussing guys they friendzones: "Yeah, I just don't really like him like that. He asked me out but I just said 'I'm not really attracted to you, sorry'.

OP: "YOU. FUCKING. BITCHES. YOU CUNTS. I HATE YOU."

[–]dubsideofmoon 11 points12 points ago

It's so pathetic that this is getting upvotes and encouragement. OP deserves to be friendzoned for life, as does anyone who believes in the imaginary concept of friendzoning and calls a woman a cunt for not being attracted to a man she is not attracted to.

[–]Basbhat 6 points7 points ago

i don't think you know what that word means.

Its when a woman acts like they're attracted to the guy and effectively leading him on while he has no chance.

if she would just reject him then this wouldn't happen

[–]toomanylimes 3 points4 points ago

By "leading him on," you mean, "he assumes she likes him but he never asks her out on an actual date"

[–]Basbhat 1 point2 points ago

no I mean flirting, texting, encouraging romantic behavior. getting drunk and making out with them.

but thats where it ends.

most people I know don't really come out and say they want to date regardless of gender, things just sort of happen. its just not the culture. yes theres a point where you define the relationship but prior to that its a bigger gray area.

[–]FlashByNature 1 point2 points ago

lololololol DAE get friend zoned!? Uptokes to the left [8]

[–]MarieIsAwesome420 4 points5 points ago

Every time I hear/say the word "cunt", I can't help but hear it in Asher's voice.

[–]MarcusVWario 0 points1 point ago

I can't stop thinking about it. Who is this Asher you speak of?

[–]Magoo2 0 points1 point ago

Asher is the character portrayed in the OP's gif. Context (as linked elsewhere in this post).

[–]MarcusVWario 0 points1 point ago

I gathered as much. I meant from which series is he from. Thanks for the link.

[–]MarieIsAwesome420 0 points1 point ago

Ashur...Spartacus?? Got his head cut off by Crixus' badass girlfriend Naevia?? Ringing any bells...??

[–]Eckus 9 points10 points ago

glad i was logged in to downvote this fucking pandering garbage

[–]fenwaygnome 4 points5 points ago

Was this from Spartacus?

[–]BrothaBeejus 1 point2 points ago

The thing is. The more its talked about, the more it becomes a thing and women do it

[–]chilari -3 points-2 points ago

How many times? "Friendzoning" is imaginary. It is a concept made up by entitled dickwads who think it is their right to be liked by girls the same amount they like those girls. You do not have that right. Let the girls have the right to like or not like guys in exactly the proptions they like and dislike them.

tl;dr: You don't have the right to sleep with anyone just because you have a crush on them.

[–]pjenkins 7 points8 points ago

You don't know what friendzone means. It means finding someone who is attracted to you and exploiting that to get them to do favours for you, buy you things, give you money, etc. by giving the impression that you are interested in having a relationship with them but actually having no intention of doing this. It has nothing to do with expecting to sleep with someone because you have a crush on them. It doesn't mean just being friends. It refers to an exploitative situation where one party takes advantage of another.

[–]Basbhat 7 points8 points ago

i think you're confused.

I think its more the guys right to have someone be up front with them about their intentions.

because if a girl just told me she wasn't interested instead of letting me buy her dinner twice first it would be very helpful.

I don't need more friends, I can barely stay in touch with the ones I do have, they're pretty great. what I don't have is a girlfriend, if this isn't leading anywhere I will happily leave you alone forever you just kind of have to give your input as the girl in the equation, and if you just lead the guy on, then how is he supposed to know ?

[–]nmyk 2 points3 points ago

so don't buy dinner

[–]getthejpeg 5 points6 points ago

I DONT THINK YOU EVEN READ THE TITLE OF THE POST

From how the OP titled his post, we have to assume they explicitly stated the word "friendzone" themselves.

Get. Bent.

I have had girls who have been flirty and lead my on to try to take advantage. Im a nice guy so I give most people the benefit of the doubt, but at a certain point, some girls are just manipulative cunts.

[–]neetshee 1 point2 points ago

From how the OP titled his post, we have to assume they explicitly stated the word "friendzone" themselves.

'We' - and by that I mean 'people who are able to appreciate the use of small words to define larger ideas and concepts' - have to assume nothing more than that OP understood what they were talking about, regardless of what terms they actually used.

The rest of your comment holds, though; I just don't know why you feel the need to stoop to silly semantics to prove your point (see what I did there?)

[–]getthejpeg 0 points1 point ago

What reason do you have to believe that the OP is not using the direct language of what he heard?

My opinion is that if the OP had overheard something else, he would have phrased it differently. If he had overheard girls talking about how they simply didnt want romantic involvement, it probably would not have caused the reaction posted in the title and gif. I am assuming he heard something which made his blood boil, probably because they were the type who take advantage of suckers and laugh about/compare their tag along boys.

[–]neetshee 0 points1 point ago

What reason do you have to believe that the OP is not using the direct language of what he heard?

I don't. Which is pretty much the same reason you do to believe that he is (e.g. conjecture, i.e. none at all). Which is why I found it strange that you would base your entire argument on that "fact".

Sorry for nitpicking, I guess I was just turned off by the tone you took (caps, bold, "get bent"). Try to structure your arguments better and it will be upvotes from here on!

[–]getthejpeg 0 points1 point ago

You are correct, its a very similar reason, but the OP titled it as he did, and the gif was very strong, so Id hope it was for a valid reason.

[–]Offensive_Username2 2 points3 points ago

I thought we agreed to stop saying the word "friendzone"

[–]carlingford 1 point2 points ago

Even in Aussie and Britain,lands of everything cuntish do we call women cunts,it's not what the word is for.

[–]Kaibunny143 0 points1 point ago

Post on /r/hifw :)

[–]Ohh_Jamie 0 points1 point ago

I gave you an up vote because... Spartacus!

[–]logansskj 0 points1 point ago

I fucking love this show

[–]secaggie 0 points1 point ago

I FUCKING LOVE SPARATACUS

[–]Freevoulous 0 points1 point ago

Upvote for my favourite character on "Spartacus"

[–]AverageDude 0 points1 point ago

That was the only interesting character left... But I think I'll still give the next season a chance just for the sex and the violence.

[–]GeorgeForemanGrillz 0 points1 point ago

Friend zone with benefits is where it's at, n00bs.

[–]one_inch_punch 0 points1 point ago

Fucking Asher. No one can ever replace Andy Whitfield. IMO they could have used the Warren Christie (Cameron Hicks from the Alphas t.v. show) as a suitable match. Long live Whitfield!!!

[–]Ultragrrrl 0 points1 point ago

I have a possibly silly question, and i hope this doesnt get down voted because want to get insight: What if your best friend tells you that they dont want to be in a relationship with you, that they see you as just a friend, but they still sleep with you... Is that technically friendzone? Is friendzone broken with the act of sex or is it the relationship?

Asking for a friend.

[–]ryanissuper 0 points1 point ago

Am I a dick when I friendzone a fat chick?

[–]AverageDude 0 points1 point ago

Yes you should marry her.

[–]Nailpolished 0 points1 point ago

So how old were they? 16? Are you surprised? I'm a bit tired of kids on reddit whining about things other kids do, you're kids! You do stupid shit all the time, it's how you learn!

[–]Jordd17 0 points1 point ago

Upvote for Spartacus

[–]theshrooponodon 0 points1 point ago

I once lost a really close friend (who I had kind of friendzoned) because she friendzoned some other guy who really loved her and I called her a cunt for it. Regrets...

[–]themossatron -1 points0 points ago

I've heard girls talk about hideous guys who showed their love for them and they had to let them down easy. Not really the same thing though. Any normal person knows friend zoning is just a way of girls saying they aren't attracted to you in the nicest possible way. You can say it should be about personality, but it's not shallow to only go out with people you are physically attracted to. You can't fuck a personality

[–]pjenkins 6 points7 points ago

Any normal person knows friend zoning is just a way of girls saying they aren't attracted to you in the nicest possible way.

Friendzoning does not mean making someone your friend. It means exploiting that attraction to make someone do favours for you, buy you things, etc.

[–]themossatron 0 points1 point ago

ah clearly I have been mistaken then. I thought that was just being a bitch not friendzoning

[–]Shelobe 0 points1 point ago

So girls are cunts because they don't date every man that is attracted to them or am I missing something?