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Google Maps vs. iOS6 Maps side by side. [x-post from r/apple] (i.imgur.com)
submitted 2 days ago by vvarpidgeon
[–]iwsfutcmd 84 points85 points86 points 2 days ago
I can't but help think that Apple is really fucking themselves over by dropping Google Maps. There's no one with even close to the amount of data that Google has, so there's no way they could even get close to competing in this department. People are just going to be clamoring for Google Maps soon enough.
By the way, is Google Maps even downloadable as an app in the new version of iOS?
[–]Brocklesocks 11 points12 points13 points 1 day ago
I'm willing to bet that it was early release because of something either legal or from a contract ending. Or maybe they just really hate Google now?
[–]gullevek 22 points23 points24 points 1 day ago
Their contract where Google allows Apple to use their Map API ended. Simple as that.
[–]manwithabadheart 19 points20 points21 points 1 day ago
And instead of simply negotiating a new contract, they decided to compete directly against them and literally remove features from iOS.
[–]ZiggyTheHamster 17 points18 points19 points 1 day ago
However, they spin the removal by making it sound like they added features.
[–]iEzhik 5 points6 points7 points 1 day ago
well do you seriously expect a company at all to come out and say that a feature will be ruined in their next update
[–]Kung120 10 points11 points12 points 1 day ago
I dont expect a company to ruin a feature in their next update. At all.
[–]ElRed_ 4 points5 points6 points 1 day ago
Unless they're Apple where they tell you what you should have on a phone.
[–]weside73 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
Not apple at least.
[–]syrionguy -8 points-7 points-6 points 1 day ago
Well-spent 600 bucks for iSheep
[–]iEzhik 3 points4 points5 points 1 day ago
iSheep all these stupid nicknames are annoying
[–]Lurking_Grue 2 points3 points4 points 1 day ago
iKnow, iThink it's a bit overused.
[–]muntoo 0 points1 point2 points 6 hours ago
iBet someone will turn this into a circlejerk. iHope it's not me.
[–]TMM 4 points5 points6 points 1 day ago
we don't really know who decided to end the contract
[–]gullevek -1 points0 points1 point 1 day ago
And literally screwed everything up and everyone over. Honestly, only Apple can make such a bullshit move and people will still praise them as innovative. Imagine Microsoft or some other company doing that.
[–]jamfest 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
Wasn't it to do with Google introducing a charge for excessive usage of the maps API?
[–]jrupac 4 points5 points6 points 1 day ago
Yeah but then shortly after that they reduced the price by a factor of 8. I think this is more related to a licensing contract that was close to expiring.
[–]douglasr007 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
That's exactly the reason.
A lot of other companies had to ditch Google Maps. I know foursquare had to.
[–]anonymous1 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
I still have Google maps on my droid foursquare app.
Yes because foursquare uses the default map app on your phone to show your location when you check in. They removed Google Maps API from their website and they now use OpenStreetMap.
That's interesting that they've kicked it from their website. I guess it'll really blow on IOS then when they're using apple maps and it shows them . . . huh?
[–]Antrikshy 3 points4 points5 points 1 day ago
There doesn't seem to be an iOS app right now. It should come soon though. Google cannot abandon this huge amount of traffic that comes from iOS users.
[–]rebmem -2 points-1 points0 points 1 day ago
They certainly could. The way Google Maps was implemented in iOS had very little revenue potential for Google.
[–]salvage 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
Google is playing the long game with its Maps product. Smartphone adoption still has a long way to climb, as well as screen sizes. There will be a lot of revenue to be had, eventually.
[–]rebmem 2 points3 points4 points 1 day ago
No doubt, this is the same strategy they use in many other products. The real question is "Is it worth not releasing Google Maps for iPhone as an incentive to get people to move to Android?"
[–]Antrikshy 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
I still saw sponsored locations occasionally, especially after I came to the US. But it's always good to have people using your service.
Anyways, now that they have a way to capitalize on all these iOS users even better with their standalone app, they simply can't let go of this.
[–]rebmem 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
I'm sure they will release an app for iOS. I was just making a point that there is a possibility of them leaving the platform temporarily. I'd imagine that Google would want to weigh the possibility of leaving Apple's maps to user complaints for a while, possibly offering an incentive for users to choose Android over iOS. Once the complaints against Apple Maps settles down, I can't see any reason for Google to not release their maps as a stand alone app.
Ohh yeah. That's a great idea. They'll have to weigh their profits and think this through quickly.
I don't see them holding out for long unless they have a new Nexus phone on the way to shake things up again. I don't think they make enough profits from iOS maps to care too much, but they also have to consider that staving off from releasing the app may lower the number of potential downloads as people get comfortable with Apple's offerings, as we have all seen that most people with iPhones don't really know anything when it comes to judging services and apps.
[–]Pugovitz 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
I don't think the majority of people will really notice and it won't impact sales much; "map details" isn't exactly something the average consumer thinks about.
[–]marshmallowhug 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
I went with Android partly because of google's maps and navigation system, and I live in NYC and can navigate using only a subway map.
[–]Hatious 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
I agree, people don't often think about something like map details. It's largely because people have come to expect a certain amount of accurate and detailed information from a map - it's simply there. Unfortunately Apple's solution falls short in this respect and is going to be noticed.
[–]ddrt -1 points0 points1 point 1 day ago
The Verge says that they will update and release soon
There was something about the API not being able to be used. If you read back in their articles you can see what happened but it's done, doesn't matter anymore.
[–]Synes_Godt_Om 121 points122 points123 points 2 days ago
So apple once again went for smplicity and got rid of all the clutter. LOL
[–]black_house 45 points46 points47 points 1 day ago
Magical
[–]jhc1415 -3 points-2 points-1 points 1 day ago
In this case I think they simplified it too much. What if I am on that campus and want to know where a certain building is? Another thing I don't get is why the roads are different between the two? Is apple unable to distinguish between a walking path and an actual road?
[–]flamingcow 17 points18 points19 points 1 day ago
I believe you missed the sarcasm. Or I am being expertly trolled.
[–]sparr 2 points3 points4 points 1 day ago
Like anything else Apple, Steve's ghost doesn't need that feature, so neither do you.
[–]fatshiteater -1 points0 points1 point 1 day ago
I think if you zoom in more, you'll see the buildings. The poor data density is annoying though.
[–]Synes_Godt_Om -7 points-6 points-5 points 1 day ago
In this case I think they simplified it too much.
It's because you're still caught up the "more details are better" fallacy.
Is apple unable to distinguish between a walking path and an actual road?
People don't realize that they really don't need to do those distinctions. That's why the true genius of Apple's inventions sometimes take years to comprehend.
[–]marshmallowhug 3 points4 points5 points 1 day ago
Pedestrians looking for a specific building do need more details.
[–]Talamor 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
A freshman on campus will have to carry around their iPhone AND a paper map to figure out where there classes are. And if they get completely lost, they'll have to use their phone to GPS locate, and then compare the map on the phone to the paper map to determine their location. That's not an improvement.
[–]marshmallowhug 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
There's really no point to the paper map. Most schools have maps on their websites now.
True, but I was thinking it would be easier having a paper map than having to switch back and forth between two maps on your iPhone, and comparing them using short-term memory.
[–]Synes_Godt_Om -4 points-3 points-2 points 1 day ago
That's a very pedestrian view of the world.
... AND the iPhone 5 has Facebook! Ask your friends. Don't be a sheep who just follows stupid map directions.
See? That's the difference between an old dinosaur like Google and Apple who's constantly pushing the limits of human imagination.
[–]ruaidhri 13 points14 points15 points 1 day ago
Irish government Ministers are also weighing in on how crap iO6 Maps is.
[–]gentthaci 5 points6 points7 points 1 day ago
Apple is using OpenStreetMap for their maps which is a great thing but they are not using the current OSM Maps (I don't know the reason why). The older one they're using aren't populated that much. U.S. at least has roads but for example if you search "Prishtina" which is the capital of Kosovo you will see nothing. But if you go to http://osm.org "Prishtina" is way better.
My 5 cents!
[–]stormeen 10 points11 points12 points 1 day ago
You're obviously holding it wrong.
[–]Brudus 5 points6 points7 points 1 day ago
Mapquest wil rise again!
[–]shln 17 points18 points19 points 1 day ago
Apple doesn't have a clue about what they are doing now.
[–]Synes_Godt_Om 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
They're trying to repeat what they did to flash, of course, there is a minor difference.
[–]lakerswiz -12 points-11 points-10 points 1 day ago
Are you so arrogant that you believe a company, a company that's so incredibly large I don't think you can begin to fathom just how big it is, doesn't know what they're doing?
They just got 2 million preorders in a 24 hour time frame and you want to say that they don't know what they're doing?
And you're getting up votes?
[–]jvi 18 points19 points20 points 1 day ago
You got it backwards. They are big because they made good decisions in the past. They don't make good decisions because they are big.
[–]postalmaner 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
What products (divisionally) does apple actually have?
They are a very large, but hugely singularly focused company.
Consumer electronics (ipad, ipod, iphone) Computers (laptops and workstations, and an OS) Media delivery (itunes, settops)
They lucked out by having the shinier shine when it mattered.
[–]lakerswiz -4 points-3 points-2 points 1 day ago
And you call that lucking out?
Google lucked out by having the shinier shine when it mattered too if that's the case.
[–]postalmaner 3 points4 points5 points 1 day ago
Realistically that's not true.
Prior to Google, searching the Internet depended on your "search-fu" and was difficult to find relevant and quality information. Metasearches and metacrawlers were big ("see what Altavista, yahoo, hotbot, etc return all on the same Page!")
Google brought real search to normal people.
Apple brought a very slick and well marketed ipod coupled with /legal downloads/ (remember mp3.com Napster, etal). They then deleivered a phone with better or market comparable features leveraging the ipod's existing feature set. This in a market where the RIAA was suing grannies, and nobody was able to deliver.
Apple brought a better mouse trap to people with disposable income.
[–]lakerswiz -7 points-6 points-5 points 1 day ago
It's the same god damn thing regardless of how you try to spin it.
"Real search" is the same kind of BS Apple uses when marketing their products.
[–]cor315 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
People can can hate on Steve Jobs all they want but it doesn't change the fact that he turned that company around. Now that he's gone it seems like Apple is going down that same hole.
[–]Lurking_Grue 3 points4 points5 points 1 day ago
I love the Hoover dam Roller coaster:
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mannqjzt3v1rhptwbo1_1280.png
[–]BWalker19 2 points3 points4 points 1 day ago
The Google Maps app on iOS was terrible compared to Androids version. It just looked bad and it had dozens of features missing and missing many important ones like navigation, which i only recently found out and was shocked that the iPhone, the worlds best selling phone, didnt have navigation.
Maybe now that Google will release their proper maps app to iOS and it will be similar to Android, wont mind it being a little behind though :)
[–]IClogToilets 31 points32 points33 points 1 day ago
The Maps app in 5.0 and earlier was written by Apple not Google. It simply used Google data. If it was terrible, blame Apple not Google. But this does now free Google to create a competitive map app for iOS.
[–]SrsSteel 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
Would google make an equal app for ios? They just need to make it better than the apple maps so not to drive away their own users
[–]BWalker19 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
I wasnt blaming Google at all. I know that Apple pretty much had most things to do the the app at least.
[–]Synes_Godt_Om 7 points8 points9 points 1 day ago
If useful maps are important to you, just don't buy an iphone. I think it's that simple.
[–]BWalker19 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
Well there are navigation apps that you can get so its not a total loss. But i think Google Maps on Android is easily the best and is several times better than the next best maps app.
[–]Synes_Godt_Om -1 points0 points1 point 1 day ago
Yeah, that's the sad thing about this whole mess. Big companies taking their customers hostage.
[–]syrionguy 2 points3 points4 points 1 day ago
Apple wrote the app, Google provided the data. Navigation was not there since their agreement didn't cover it
[–]sk_leb 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
If you're looking for navigation on the iPhone, hands down I enjoy Waze. I've been using it for a while now and it's much better than any other nav product I've used.
[–]billchase2 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
Fantastic choice of location. Go Falcons!
And while I'm sure Apple is working on improving their Maps app, I'm really banking on a Google Maps app in the App Store.
[–]JLishere 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
McKayla is not impressed by iOS6 Maps: http://imgur.com/a/gpkTP
[–]transisto 0 points1 point2 points 23 hours ago
So funny,, thanks
[–]wievid -38 points-37 points-36 points 2 days ago
I fail to understand why this crap is being posted here in /r/android or r/google. Go and post this over in /r/apple. Can we please cut out posting this Apple-bashing crap in this subreddit? I wish a mod would make a rule against it.
[–]Bunzaak 4 points5 points6 points 1 day ago
This was originally posted in r/apple.
[–]IIIMurdoc 7 points8 points9 points 1 day ago
This post says nothing bad about apple
It does say it implicitly, and can be interpreted by anyone who has a brain.
This post is walking the border between b4$hing/circlejerking and... uh... hold on, what's this subreddit about anyways?
[–]wievid -17 points-16 points-15 points 1 day ago
No, not at all... /sarcasm
[–]broncofever 4 points5 points6 points 2 days ago
Nice try apple employee
[–]wievid -13 points-12 points-11 points 1 day ago
Considering that Apple as a company maintains only a very small corporate sales office in my country of residence, highly unlikely. There's not even an official Apple store here.
[–]corporaterebel -1 points0 points1 point 1 day ago
All that extra stuff is unnecessary and there is nothing to question.
iUsers know is that Apple is the answer, the only answer and will always be the only answer.
I disagree, something this noticeable can change the way regular users see the iPhone. It one of the biggest reasons people use smartphones. If it doesn't work then you complain until it does or just switch.
[–]vvarpidgeon[S] 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
Not sure if serious or....
If serious, have you ever been lost on a college campus trying to find the right building? It can be a nightmare...
[–]corporaterebel 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
not serious.
I find the iPhone to be an amazingly marketed device: it costs more over time, does less and is for the smart artsy crowd.
[–]vvarpidgeon[S] 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
Agreed. Upvote for you sir.
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[–]syrionguy 3 points4 points5 points 1 day ago
Proof or it didn't happen
[–]Khorv 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
Lets see.
[–]chistogo -27 points-26 points-25 points 2 days ago
I do like Google maps more but come on they just released the new maps app. Give them at least 6 months before complaining.
[–]THEYREMINERALS 33 points34 points35 points 2 days ago
As an iPhone and iPad user I think they should have worked on it for six or twelve more months before releasing it. The maps are incomplete and out of date...what good is an incomplete and out of date map? I feel the complaints are legitimate.
[–]i_burn_cash 2 points3 points4 points 1 day ago
Agreed. The map data for my city (in Europe) is absolutely fine and I haven't experienced any negative effects from abandoning Google Maps (public transport support for my city was removed from Google Maps ~2 years ago) yet.
But I do agree that Apple should have worked on it at least ~6 more months….
[–]Benthetraveler 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
public transport support for my city was removed from Google Maps ~2 years ago
Pretty sure this is not what Google wanted.
[–]i_burn_cash 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
I know, it wasn't my intention to blame Google.
There was (and still is) a quite huge discussion in my city regarding this topic and the conclusion is that the department responsible for (and in charge of) the public transport data does not want to give it to Google… for whatever reason.
[–]white_gorilla 3 points4 points5 points 2 days ago
That's true, but Apple has a lot of work ahead of them. Google has spent years and tons of resources on getting more and more detailed on their maps app (including malls, hospitals, universities, even the best buy near my house.) Between that and streetview and integrating zagat/yelp/friends reviews, I don't see how Apple can catch up in 6 months.. I think Google Maps (if it comes out for iOS) will get many downloads from the app store.
[–]OmegaVesko 3 points4 points5 points 1 day ago*
People buy the phone/upgrade to iOS 6 expecting fully functional software. What about all the people who rely on Google Maps every day?
It's not in beta anymore. This is absolutely unacceptable to everyone who paid for it expecting the same functionality.
[–]CossRooper -32 points-31 points-30 points 2 days ago
For real. All of my downvotes. Stupid circlejerky fanboy bullshit.
[–]aerosquid -28 points-27 points-26 points 2 days ago
Just use iMaps instead. Problem solved.
all it takes is a username and password
create account
is it really that easy? only one way to find out...
already have an account and just want to login?
login
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