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When a squid in shorts and sandals gives me the nod at a red light (i.imgur.com)
submitted 1 day ago by -Gravitron-United States
[–]lol-failKTM 690 SM 40 points41 points42 points 1 day ago
Yeah some people don't wear gear. It's not like they don't know what they're doing(not wearing gear). Keep your head up and ride, don't worry what other people are wearing.
[–]badgrafxghost1995 Suzuki GS500E | 1963 Vespa GS160 mkII 8 points9 points10 points 1 day ago
yep... I ride for myself, not for anyone else.
I choose to wear tons of gear because I'm scared not to. Others choose to not wear gear, they ride for themselves. As long as they don't put me or anyone else on the road in danger, more power to 'em.
[–]glib2005 VFR800A 8 points9 points10 points 1 day ago
It's not like they don't know what they're doing
Around here it usually does. Shorts + tshirt on a bike means they take it out of the garage for 3 weeks each summer, often still on a learner's permit or without a license, and buzz around in straight lines with stiff arms. Give us all a bad name, drives up the accident stats, pisses people off by riding around at 12k RPM in 1st gear at midnight for no reason.
[–]lol-failKTM 690 SM 6 points7 points8 points 1 day ago
Don't assume anything. Also when my father goes home to grab his bike on his lunch and brings it back to work and doesn't have his jacket/gloves on. I start telling him he's a fool for not wearing his jacket/gloves for the 5 minute ride, it makes me sound like a douche and he's probably going to smack me across the head. If people want to be an ass on the road let them, it's not your blood spilled so why do you care.
[–]mouseteeth 4 points5 points6 points 1 day ago
It's because people generalize and lump us together, and irresponsible riders make us all look bad. I agree with you too that if someone wants to risk themselves that's their choice, but it speaks to us as a group.
A skateboarder died in my neighborhood a few weeks ago, bombing a hill and blowing through a stop sign. He could have made the same mistake on a bicycle, scooter, roller skates, whatever. I skate down the same hill all the time, but I ride much much slower, stop at the stop signs and constantly check every direction for cars coming. Even though I ride safely, all the people living on that street now roll their eyes at me, tell me to take it easy or yell at me to get off my board and stop skating because I'm going to kill myself.
[–]lol-failKTM 690 SM 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
Every group has a bad rap be it modified cars, guns, bmx or even little girl pageants. Doesn't mean you should be an armchair forum warrior and dwell on it.
[–]glib2005 VFR800A 2 points3 points4 points 1 day ago
I assume everything on a bike, it helps keep you alive.
Guy with no gear? Chances are higher that he's not a great rider. Be wary of him cutting you off, changing lanes without signalling, or running wide on a corner.
Soccer mom in a minivan? Assume she's distracted, won't signal, has zero awareness of her surroundings, will kill you if you're anywhere near her blind spot.
Kid in a car with learners permit in the window? Assume they'll be really timid, unless the car has rims or a fart-can muffler then assume they'll try to drag race you away from the light.
We were taught in riding school to blatantly profile people around us. No need to be politically correct in your head, profile by age, gender, race... whatever, if it helps keep you alive it's worth it.
Yes there's a chance that it's a good rider who's just making a short trip without gear. But it's a lower chance. That's the only point I'm making. There will always be exceptions to the rule, but I play the odds.
My appapologizes I meant the don't assume anything part about riders not gearing up. Not general riding I made my post to vauge.
[–]bitseach -3 points-2 points-1 points 1 day ago
You do know where the term "squid" comes from, right?
Feeling like a fucking idiot at a funeral is a pretty bad thing, man.
[–]tehreal 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
Where does it come from?
[–]yellekcNinja 250 3 points4 points5 points 1 day ago
I drive a 250 cc. The thing needs to be above about 8k to get a responsive throttle. But my bike is also pretty quite compared to most.
I wear a helmet, jeans, and shoes. I would wear more but I live in the tropics and would get cooked in every jacket I've tried. I don't care what others wear, it's their skin, not mine. But I do care how they drive. I respect a careful and courteous gearless rider more than a reckless and rude geared-up rider.
[–]Meowjin -1 points0 points1 point 1 day ago
lol
[–]MongrelMatty 41 points42 points43 points 1 day ago
Some people choose not to wear gear.
Some of us who do wear gear might ride 50 feet to move the bike or something, without wearing gear.
Don't hate, you'll miss out on making buddies.
[–]theartfuldubber -14 points-13 points-12 points 1 day ago
Two things. First, if you're moving the bike you probably aren't pulling up next to anyone at a red light.
Secondly, I give a damn because I want to make buddies that stick around for a while and aren't dead or crippled. I don't give guys that don't wear gear hell because I think they're idiots, I do it because I care about their well-being. I've seen a lot of get-offs. Ones that involve gear typically involve a lot less blood.
[–]ironhorsemtb2002 Bandit 1200S 7 points8 points9 points 1 day ago
Not everyone who crashes without gear dies or becomes crippled. I wrecked in shorts, tennis shoes, and a jacket, and helmet of course. I got up, I was going 57mph when I got wrecked by debris in a curve. Did I quit riding? No, I still ride to this date sometimes wearing just a shirt and shorts. I accept the risk that we will crash at some point, maybe more than once. It's my life and you ATTGATTers can wear what you want, while I wear what I would like to wear. /rant. Sorry.
[–]ezenbrowntown2007 Kawasaki Ninja 650R 6 points7 points8 points 1 day ago
Hey, I care about you. Let me show my affection by shunning you in public. Great plan.
[–]jerry_rigger 10 points11 points12 points 1 day ago
Well aren't you the bleeding heart...
[–]theartfuldubber -2 points-1 points0 points 1 day ago
Yup, I'm a friggin ray of sunshine.
[–]haashmaluumWest Coast 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
I'd say you're more likely a cunt.
[–]theartfuldubber -7 points-6 points-5 points 1 day ago
But I'm a fast cunt.
[–]haashmaluumWest Coast -3 points-2 points-1 points 1 day ago
Hopefully that will lead to your death much sooner.
[–]theartfuldubber 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
Luckily I only have two 21st chromosomes so I'm smart enough to wear quality gear to reduce (not remove) my risks and only ride fast when conditions allow it. I'll probably lead a long and healthy life, shame it will be marred with the presence of miserable twats such as yourself, but I won't lose sleep over it. Have a pleasant day sweetheart.
[–]haashmaluumWest Coast -1 points0 points1 point 1 day ago
Wow, you sure are a clever one, aren't you? You huwt my feewings! Pathetic.
[–]TreesACrowd2010 Triumph Street Triple -18 points-17 points-16 points 1 day ago
And it says something about their personality or their critical reasoning ability, something that many of us don't want as a quality in our friends.
Nobody here is trying to force squids to wear gear, but we don't have to associate with them either.
[–]justadude27 16 points17 points18 points 1 day ago
And it says something about their personality or their critical reasoning ability
Says someone who also consciously thinks "I'll straddle this piece of metal and plastic and ride it down the road without a single modern safety device meant to keep me from getting killed, because hey, HE'S the REAL idiot....."
Pot, meet kettle.
[–]DenjinJ2007 EX500 -1 points0 points1 point 1 day ago
without a single modern safety device meant to keep me from getting killed
You know, they make helmets for motorcycle riding these days? Actually, there's jackets, pants, gloves, boots, track suits, even airbag suits if that floats your boat.
[–]Kodiak_Marmoset 2 points3 points4 points 1 day ago
Only the helmet will save your life; everything else merely lessens abrasion injuries.
[–]TreesACrowd2010 Triumph Street Triple -5 points-4 points-3 points 1 day ago*
I've been hit by a car twice, and both times escaped without injury thanks to the gear I was wearing.
What you're saying is that if you do dangerous things, you might as well do them as dangerously as possible even if the added danger has no conceivable benefit (what's the benefit of wearing shorts and sandals?)
If you can't tell the difference, you also lack the critical reasoning ability I was talking about. Then again, due to the vehemence of your position I'm getting the feeling that you are one of the squids we're talking about, so I guess that base is already covered.
[–]justadude27 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
I'm getting the feeling that you are one of the squids we're talking about
No, I just don't think of myself as someone superior because I do wear my gear. Let me guess, you also don't wave at Can-Am riders or scooters.
[–]TreesACrowd2010 Triumph Street Triple 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
I happily wave at them if they wave at me, although I rarely see a Can-am. Being squidly requires you to make a very silly choice for no reason. Riding a scooter does not, and in some ways is arguably more rational than riding a motorcycle. There's a difference between disliking the vehicle and disliking the type of rider who makes inherently dumb decisions.
Cognitive dissonanaaaaaace.
[–]TreesACrowd2010 Triumph Street Triple -3 points-2 points-1 points 1 day ago
Try not to throw out the big words until you learn how to spell 'em, tiger.
Oh no! Pointing out a typo! My feewings are huwt! Doesn't save you from being a hypocritical cunt! :D
[–]TreesACrowd2010 Triumph Street Triple 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
Call me names all you want, but at the end of the day you're the guy trying to justify wearing shorts and sandals on a motorcycle. Good luck with that.
What? Are you an idiot? I'm saying the opposite of that. I'm saying that it's pathetic to be a condescending asshole to people just because they want to exchange risk for comfort. That doesn't make them bad people. It's reckless, sure, but it doesn't mean they're stupid or worthy of your bad attitude. I think you're a cunt because you act like you are a better person because you wear gear. Good for you! :D
So let me get this straight: You are flaming me for calling these people dumb (after all, that's all I've done here), even going so far as to call me a cunt (once again, just for calling people who wear shorts and sandals on a motorcycle dumb and then having the nerve to defend that position), yet you admit that you think they are reckless.
Seems legit. Can I call you a cunt who thinks you're better than them too, since you said they're reckless? That's not exactly a compliment after all.
And can I call you a condescending asshole for calling me an idiot just for stating a position you don't agree with? Because it kinda makes you one.
[–]Talran2001 GSX-R600 6 points7 points8 points 1 day ago
You're also taking the same risks and riding on the same two wheels.
Just because you decided your level of risk is lower than theirs doesn't mean they're missing some reasoning ability, or somehow cancer or something. Damn.
[–]TreesACrowd2010 Triumph Street Triple -2 points-1 points0 points 1 day ago
I'm not taking the same risks because I've taken steps to mitigate some of them. See how that works? Risk of road rash? Almost nil in good gear, yet this is the most common injury among riders. Risk of head injury? Obviously still there but drastically reduced in the most common accident situations. Risk of limb damage? It's laughable to say that the risk is the same for someone in armored gear and a back protect as it is for someone in a t-shirt.
By your logic, football players should play naked and we should all ride around in bare-frame cars as punishment for 'choosing' to take part in those activities. See how I might question your critical reasoning skill when this is what you're advocating?
There are reasons to ride a bike. Some of them are subjective, some of them are weak, but there are at least a handful of acceptable ones I can think of. The only reason not to wear gear is inconvenience. There is no other justification, and that isn't a very good one. It also doesn't really apply to helmets. When you do something that adds to your risk of injury with no conceivable benefit, it is entirely irrational.
[–]Talran2001 GSX-R600 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
The problem is you're also forgetting the first (or should have been) thing they told you at basic MSF. Everyone who rides is taking a risk. Now how you ride, and what you wear, and how much attention you pay (the last one is actually the biggest one) determine your risk. You ride how you do because you have deemed it an acceptable risk. They do the same because they have deemed it an acceptable risk themselves. It's their level of risk.
By your logic, and I'm not making a false comparison like you did; We should shame weekend football players for not wearing the same gear you do playing in college. You know, never mind that they aren't personally affecting you, or that it's their choice to throw around a ball and tackle each other with some friends, but shit, they take that risk because it's fun. Dangerous, but fun.
There are reasons to ride a bike. Almost every one of them are subjective. There are at least a handful of ones that I find acceptable. And while riding without gear might be due to inconvenience, for a rush, or just simple preference, I'm not one to shit on their parade. Also applies to helmets, even though you can't conceive the benefit (that's subjective, remember), doesn't mean they don't enjoy it more, or that you can't wear one.
[–]TreesACrowd2010 Triumph Street Triple 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago*
The benefit of a helmet is subjective? That's a new one.
I'm not forgetting the first thing they told me at basic MSF, even if it was a decade ago. Nothing I've said would suggest I did. My point is actually right there in your third sentence.
Now how you ride, and what you wear, and how much attention you pay (the last one is actually the biggest one) determine your risk.
Well since you agree with me I guess we're done here right? I never said it isn't risky to ride if you have gear, I said it's inherently dumb not to take the small, easy steps to reduce your risk, and if I see someone who in shorts and sandals I know they've made a dumb decision from a cost/benefit perspective.
By your logic (and I'm not making a false comparison like you did) we should shame weekend football players for not wearing the same gear you do playing in college.
Actually you are making a false comparison, for two reasons:
Weekend football players are not subjecting themselves to the same danger as a bunch of college players playing at 100% against other 250 lb behemoths barreling toward them at full speed. Hell, most of the time they're playing flag. And if they are playing that hard, they should be wearing gear. Two bikers, however, are subjecting themselves to the exact same risk but one is taking simple steps to mitigate it and one is not.
I never said anything about shaming anyone. Nobody said anything about getting off your bike and lecturing the squid about his life choices. It's about refraining from a gesture of comradery. So I should be required to wave at a squid in shorts and sandals just because he waves at me? I don't think so. Big difference between this and 'shaming' them.
[–]wowblufall 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
if I see someone who in shorts and sandals I know they've made a dumb decision from a cost/benefit perspective.
If that's the only perspective you have, you should get a used Honda off craigslist. It's very cheap and much safer than a motorcycle.
Another guy mentioned cognitive dissonance, and that is exactly what you are exhibiting. The same logic you use to say "wearing gear is sensible because it's safer" can be extended to "driving a car is sensible because it's safer." There's a conflict there because you're enjoying an activity (motorcycling) that's riskier than an alternative (driving), but you condemn someone else for doing the exact same thing by enjoying his own activity (riding w/o gear) that's riskier than an alternative (riding w/ gear).
Maybe it's hot out and he doesn't like roasting in his gear. Maybe he's making a very short trip and couldn't be bothered. Maybe his gear is in the damn wash. Point is you may as well mock people at the mall that don't tie their shoelaces properly because their inferior tying method is more likely to become undone than your own, hence they are idiots.
Your sanctimonious belief is really obnoxious.
You're supposed to retake basic MSF once a year! D:
But no, the benefit isn't subjective, the reasons for riding are, as are the reasons people take the risks they do. Not everyone is 100% as interested in preserving their life at all costs. Heck if we were we wouldn't be riding, we'd be in a truck with a helmet and riding suit.
I'm trying to say that the risks are of the same nature, even if they aren't the same level. And when it comes down to it, if you're riding on the road, the gear makes about half that decision for you, whether you get hit by a cage make the rest. While you and I may see it as something dumb, it is just how they grew up riding, or how they prefer to ride. Do you wave to guys on cruisers? I haven't seen a single guy around here on a cruiser with gear. Most of them are getting on in age as well, I ride a GSXR, and wear gear, but we have a jolly good time riding.
Same thing with a friend who admittedly has some pretty severe PTSD from Iraq, he could give a fuck less if he dies tomorrow. He's a great guy, and wouldn't hurt a fly, but because of what he's been through, he could care less if he dies. He's far from the "stereotypical squid" weaving between cars, and causing risks for everyone. He doesn't wear a helmet, jacket, or pants though. There's tons of guys like that here, it's Camp Hood. I bet on seeing him though you'd make a snap judgement about him, and not return a wave, nod or shout.
[–]Sleward2007 Yamaha FZ1 -3 points-2 points-1 points 1 day ago
Just stop..... just because there are reasons to ride a motorcycle doesn't mean they all have to be the same as yours.
Of course not.
But give me ONE reason to ride in shorts and sandals, other than, "It's hot outside" or, "The ladies love it."
Take your time, I'll wait.
[–]shitworms 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
We have the freedom to. Simple as that. People are allowed to do as they see fit in many cases, gear choice being one.
[–]TreesACrowd2010 Triumph Street Triple 2 points3 points4 points 1 day ago*
...and no one voicing my side of this debate disagrees with that. We aren't trying to force anyone to wear gear. All we're saying is that we think it's dumb to wear shorts and sandals and we shouldn't have to feign approval of your dumb decisions just because you wave at us. I have the freedom to express my disapproval just as much as you have the freedom to make yourself a meatloaf sandwich on the pavement.
And just because you have the freedom to do something doesn't mean others can't judge you for doing it. Like we all do about the Westboro Baptist Church, for instance.
[–]-Gravitron-United States[S] 27 points28 points29 points 1 day ago
This was not intended to spark an ATGATT debate.
[–]incog1 5 points6 points7 points 1 day ago
It's funny because a bunch of self righteous assholes are jumping down your neck because they think you are being a self righteous asshole.
Gotta love reddit sometimes.
[–]cheez0rTX - 2003 Honda VTX 1800R named Punkin II 6 points7 points8 points 1 day ago
Eh, anything regarding the level of gear a rider wears is going to spark an ATGATT firestorm of some kind. Those who don't ride ATGATT are going to lash out because you're criticizing them for it, those who do are going to fight back, it's unavoidable.
Not waving back, however, is a dick move. Be as disdainful as you like, but snub other riders at your peril... they'll take it as an insult every time.
[–]-Gravitron-United States[S] 7 points8 points9 points 1 day ago
I think everyone here missed the word squid, which by general concensus means "A motorcycle rider who, experienced or not, rides outside his abilities and sets poor examples by attire, propriety, and general behavior on the motorcycle."
I would certainly stop to help out any rider in need- however, any rider who makes all other motorcyclists look bad will receive less respect from me.
[–]alphascistill looking for the right one 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
he could have been moving the bike for a friend, or maybe his gear got burned by his exwife.
you dont know him, you dont know where he has been.
[–]-Gravitron-United States[S] 6 points7 points8 points 1 day ago
For the last three miles he was trying to race me and weaving all over the place, putting me and everyone else in danger. Seriously, fuck that guy.
[–]alphascistill looking for the right one 2 points3 points4 points 1 day ago
well now i agree with you.
context makes the story.
[–]oddmanout 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
so, what's so wrong with being nice and waving back to someone even if they're not wearing the same amount of gear you think is sufficient? They take issue with you because you're being judgmental.
Come on, be nice, wave back to people when they wave. It's not like owning a motorcycle is some exclusive club you have to earn your way into. He's dealing with the same shitty dangerous drivers you are.
[–]cheez0rTX - 2003 Honda VTX 1800R named Punkin II -2 points-1 points0 points 1 day ago
Oh, I agreed with your sentiments re: the squid, but I'd still wave back. I'm from Texas, I wouldn't put it past one of the methhead sportbike gang squids to pull a gun for not waving back... ;)
[–]superbadsoul 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
... is that a real problem out there??
[–]cheez0rTX - 2003 Honda VTX 1800R named Punkin II -1 points0 points1 point 1 day ago
Fuckheads brandishing firearms because of road rage? Absolutely. Methhead sportbike gangs? Absolutely. Squids pulling on non-wavers? I dunno, but I'm not angling to find out... ;)
[–]vuxanovHonda CB 500 5 points6 points7 points 1 day ago
It's not ATGATT debate, it's about not being judgmental and arrogant to other people.
[–]bultaco370pursang1986 Yamaha SRX-6 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
This is why you always nod back.
[–]hvyhitter[OH] 03 CBR 954RR 0 points1 point2 points 17 hours ago
too late to put the shit back into the goose. I welcome this fight to be honest. I cant stand seeing people with flipflops and shorts on.. but.. at the same time.. the AGATT police here really make my ass itch.
[–]ezenbrowntown2007 Kawasaki Ninja 650R 26 points27 points28 points 1 day ago*
Wow, I am stunned at the level of hate for non ATGATT. I expect it sometimes in our reddit community, as we come here to discuss various things, and there's a tendency to want to "protect our own". I get that. But to be a non waving douche out in the real world just because they aren't equipped to your level of satisfaction? That's extremely sad. It's the social equivalent of avoiding relatives at a family reunion because they aren't dressed like you think they should be.
EDIT: After much thought, I had to add more to this. You know what was one of the most attractive things to me about getting a motorcycle? The brotherhood of fellow riders. I'd see bikers, giving that wave to each other, not knowing them from Adam. I was impressed. It was like having family wherever you go.
I feel as a rider I am apart of something bigger than myself. I am more than just a guy with a piece of metal between his legs. I'm a member of a community. As such, I feel I have a responsibility to everyone else in it, to make them feel apart of, just like so many riders did for me. If I was truly concerned for someone else's well being that much, I'd wave them on to stop. Maybe then we could go grab some coffee sometime and chat. Then I'd have a platform to discuss the gear situation with them, in a way that would be effective. This idea of punishing them for not measuring up to the ATGATT standard is not only childish, but it tarnishes the very fabric of the brotherhood that makes our community so special.
[–]RexL22012 GSX-R600 3 points4 points5 points 1 day ago
I wave at everyone. I remember the first time I pulled up to a light on my 250 and a newer ZX6R pulled up next to me. I enthusiastically waved at him but I got a nod back. It felt pretty cool, it was my first taste of the brotherhood :-D
If a squid waves at me (or anyone for that matter), I'll more than happily wave back. Scooters draw the biggest "surprised face"
[–]robocorgi2006 Kawasaki Ninja 650r NoVA 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
I give the signal to scooters too and they get so confused. One guy physically flipped out and tried to give me some derped out wave; it was awesome.
[–]RexL22012 GSX-R600 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
Haha "me? Really? Hi!"
[–]BeExcellent1972 CB350T 2 points3 points4 points 1 day ago
Well said, my dude, well said.
[–]hangerbaby1998 Honda Superhawk 2 points3 points4 points 1 day ago
I don't have to wave at anybody, I don't understand why its a problem that I choose who to acknowledge. Squids give motorcyclists a REALLY bad name.. they drive up casualties and deaths and whatnot, and that really is going to ruin the hobby for everyone.
[–]Ghawdxi2012 Thruxton, 1966 Norton, 1966 Triumph 3 points4 points5 points 1 day ago
This is a good point, but at the same time, there are douche bags who buy motorcycles with no idea what they are, what they can do, or how to ride them and then claim to be "bikers." Some call them squids or poseurs or whatever. But just because you can buy your way in does not mean that others will automatically accept you. I've known a few squids in my time. Guys who buy bikes because they think they're bad-asses, or whatever, then get into an accident, write off the machine, and never ride again. I believe these are the types that the OP is referring to.
[–]ezenbrowntown2007 Kawasaki Ninja 650R 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
I'm not pretending there are not idiots out there. Absolutely there are. All I'm trying to say is being a douche to a douche fixes absolutely nothing.
[–]Ghawdxi2012 Thruxton, 1966 Norton, 1966 Triumph 2 points3 points4 points 1 day ago
It will fix dirty vaginas.
[–]ezenbrowntown2007 Kawasaki Ninja 650R 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
Might spruce up the clean ones too!
[–]deck_hand2013 Honda PCX150 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
He specifically referred to people on bikes in shorts and inappropriate shoes. He didn't mention riding jackets, helmets, gloves, riding experience, years of owning a bike, number of bikes owned, skill level, training classes completed, or tattoos.
I've been riding for 40 years, have never been injured, and often ride in shorts and a tee-shirt (and helmet, because I live in Georgia where it's the law. According to OP, my choice of clothing makes me less than worthy.
[–]Ghawdxi2012 Thruxton, 1966 Norton, 1966 Triumph 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
Yes, but that doesn't make you a "squid," which is what the OP is referring to. I myself wear t-shirts while I'm riding, but there's a difference between those who don't necessarily wear ATGATT and "squids."
[–]deck_hand2013 Honda PCX150 2 points3 points4 points 1 day ago
I think it depends on who you talk to. Some consider anyone who is not decked out head to toe in protective gear a squid, others also consider behavior.
I've always debated that with myself and I can confidently say riding like a fool makes a squid. Same thing with bikes. Is an R6 a girls bike? No. Is a GSX-R a squid bike? No. Jetta a girls car? Ok maybe a little but not 100%
[–]JimmyHavok 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
I don't know what it is, but half the time I see someone driving like a fool they have a Jetta.
[–]RexL22012 GSX-R600 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
Haha that's true. A lot of Altima drivers are pretty goofy here too
[–]JimmyHavok 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
Used to be the Acura kids here, but for some reason they shifted to Jettas...although there seems to be a shift away from them now, and I haven't quite spotted this year's stupid car. Seen a lot of what used to be BMW douchiness in Audis, but they're too pricey for the average dumb kid.
My theory on Jettas is that they are a 4-door marketed to people who wish they could get a sports car (Dad car), then the kid gets it handed down when Dad gets a new one.
Hah makes sense. Oh man how could I forget the 300C? They're easily top 3 here.
Typical BMW goons will always be around
[–]theartfuldubber 2 points3 points4 points 1 day ago
Not to even mention there is actually an area between shorts/flip-flops/non-DOT skid lid and ATGATT that doesn't seem to register to this subreddit.
I ride in a full-face, jacket, gauntlet gloves, and boots 99% of the time. Sometimes I'll swap out for a 3/4 shell, or shorty gloves. I always ride in boots (real riding boots not tanker jobs - watched a guy's leg spin off because of the inertia of his heavy boots...) but I'm not a gear nazi.
Lots of people buy bikes and have no idea what gear really does or why it matters. A lot of people buy shit gear that fits poorly and makes riding uncomfortable. One of my buddies used to ride in what we called his 'armored t-shirt' because he had a shit leather jacket that fit him poorly. He borrowed my armored Dainese and hasn't ridden without a jacket since once he saw that you could wear gear AND be comfortable.
If you want to ride in shorts and sandals more power to you, but don't expect me to not question your understanding of physics and wonder if you've really thought it through.
[–]TeledildonicER6-n 2 points3 points4 points 1 day ago
real riding boots not tanker jobs
What the hell is a "tanker job"? Google is giving me nothing.
[–]theartfuldubber 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago*
Those huge thick leather knee-high deals with straps and buckles galore.
Watched an accident once where two riders were coming through an intersection. In opposing traffic a Jeep Cherokee didn't realize the car in front of them was stopped and slammed on their brakes. They slid halfway across the yellow line and into the path of the biker hugging the yellow line. The impact spun the rider around and the weight of his boot created enough additional inertia that it twisted his knee until his leg literally spun itself around twice. Watched him bleed out from the wound. It happened on the leg on the opposite side of the actual impact so it wasn't sheared off by the Jeep either. The medic that responded said it wasn't an uncommon thing with large heavy boots in accidents, motorcycle or otherwise.
These guys and similar - http://veggiefitness.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/casi.png
Legit riding boots like Sidis, Alpinestars, and similar (don't have to be pricey to be good either) are lightweight, easier to take on and off, and typically offer actual impact protection, not just abrasion resistance. Plus if you're a faster rider and drag toe real riding boots will usually have replaceable panels so you don't have to buy new boots when you wear down the toe plate.
[–]DenjinJ2007 EX500 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
It's not necessarily hate. Think of this analogy: You stop in at a pub and you see someone drinking your favorite beer. You say "hey man, nice choice!" Another time you stop in and see a guy drinking the same thing until he's falling on his face, being rowdy and making an ass of himself and you act like you don't know the guy.
It's nice being part of a group because of a common interest, but if you see someone doing what you consider stupid, you don't want to be lumped into that same group.
I get what you're saying, I just feel my line of "shutting them down" may be at a different point. For instance, would I still give the nod if the guy blew past my doing a wheelie, did a stoppie at the stop light and cut me off earlier in the process? Probably not. He might get a "disapproving head shake". However, I'm not going to assume his lack of gear also makes him a horrible rider until he proves it otherwise.
In my experiences with the non-biker world, most are pretty uninformed when it comes to gear. Many tend to see bikes as suicide machines, no matter how decked out in gear they are. The main people I see that get upset over gearless riders.............are other riders. When I hear people complain over motorcycle riders, the most common complaints I hear are revving their engine needlessly and riding like a maniac. I've yet to hear a non-rider say, "I can't believe that guy isn't wearing abrasive protecting leather or a full face helmet".
In my experiences with the non-biker world, most are pretty uninformed when it comes to gear. Many tend to see bikes as suicide machines, no matter how decked out in gear they are. The main people I see that get upset over gearless riders.............are other riders.
and I think that's the real issue. Because of guys who ride recklessly without enough gear, it's hard to convince most people that riding a motorbike isn't a death sentence. Most people have never gone over actual studies like the Hurt Report, so they don't realize how much you can mitigate risk - you're just deemed an idiot, crazy, or suicidal because you choose to ride a bike. They hear "bike" and think "squid." So the more people who can be convinced to wear gear (assuming just for the sake of argument they could be convinced) the less the image of bikers as a whole suffers.
[–]theundaunted617'07 DRZ440SM 47 points48 points49 points 1 day ago
(Fixed) The look I give my computer when a judgmental douche makes a post about seeing someone not ATGATT
[–]panch13 7 points8 points9 points 1 day ago
He didn't mention ATGATT he said shorts and sandals. This could mean that is all they are wearing. I guess some people can get worked up over a post that I'm guessing was supposed to be funny.
[–]theundaunted617'07 DRZ440SM 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
So I'm going to assume you cannot read based on your response. I said someone not ATGATT. His post was about a guy in short and sandals, which is not gear last time I checked.
[–]panch13 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
You may want to read the title, your post, and then my post again. You said "fixed" and then wrote that it's the look you give to posts from people who post judgemental stuff about not being ATGATT. The OP never mentioned ATGATT. Unless you were trying to reply to a different post. Otherwise I'm confuseed by your post to me.
[–]dataton2009 HD Iron 883 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
I think the reason why so many people are lashing out is because there is some sort of ATGATT post almost every day. Posting a gif or a meme about a topic that is not only covered almost daily, but is also perma-linked at the top of this sub-reddit is adding nothing interesting or new to this forum. We know it's important for everyone to at least be aware of motorcycle safety, however there are enough resources available here and elsewhere on the internet that anyone with the slightest bit of common sense and/or interest in this topic will find enough material to keep them busy for hours if not days.
[–]shitworms -1 points0 points1 point 1 day ago
Posts about scratched up helmets get far more points than posts about amazing bikes. It's a goddamn shame. r/motorcycles has turned into yet another giant circlejerk. If there are any other active motorcycle related subreddits where shitty gif reactions like this are shunned and the ATGATT crowd is just background noise I'd love to know.
[–]Scotty_Doesnt_Know_ 3 points4 points5 points 1 day ago
You just described pretty much every other motorcycle forum.
[–]dataton2009 HD Iron 883 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
I've had luck on model specific and/or technical forums outside of reddit.
[–]shitworms 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
Yeah there's plenty of good stuff outside of reddit. I just play on reddit at work on my phone to kill time.
[–]parlezmoose -3 points-2 points-1 points 1 day ago
Says the guy who submits image memes.
Look at the junior detective here! You get a gold star!
[–]parlezmoose 2 points3 points4 points 1 day ago
I've found that the people who whine about shitty content are often fond of submitting it themselves.
I'll be the first to admit that submission was pretty lame. But at least the content itself, while a generic image macro meme, had some relevance to motorcycles, specifically the vintage bike I was rebuilding at that time.
It's the only submission I've made though, so I have to admit you've got a point.
[–]momoneyb96 Ninja 500 - 07 CF Moto V5 8 points9 points10 points 1 day ago
Wow! ATGATT gets shoved down everyone's throat in this subreddit. Then someone expresses distain for people without gear, and everyone goes apeshit, telling him he is a asshole... make up your hivemind people!
[–]motophiliac1998 Honda Fireblade 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
This /r/ has become very polarised. Lots are pro-gear, lots are anti-gear, some — like myself — do not give any part of a fuck, let alone a whole entire fuck.
The problem is that these two factions come out of the woodwork when they feel that the balance is shifting away from their position, even just the tinyest bit, and they don't go for a ride until they're very angry that some anonymous person thousands of miles away has been made to feel as angry as they are.
And for what?
[–]erics1124 -1 points0 points1 point 1 day ago
make up your hivemind people!
This is a terrible stance you are taking. What makes the members of r/motorcycles great is that we promote safe riding. Being arrogant and disrespectful to a random guy on the street doesn't make anyone safer than if you returned the head-nod.
[–]fear_the_spear'03 Kawasaki EX500 23 points24 points25 points 1 day ago
Don't be a condescending asshole
[–]iliketoking 6 points7 points8 points 1 day ago
Haters gonna hate Jkjk I still don't understand how people wear sandals how do you shift? Wouldn't that hurt??
[–]harcomarms 4 points5 points6 points 1 day ago
You ain't man enough when it hurts bro!
[–]deck_hand2013 Honda PCX150 -1 points0 points1 point 1 day ago
I've ridden barefoot, and yes sometimes shifting is less comfortable. If you have those "front and rear" shift levers it's less of an issue. I've recently traded my bike for a Honda PCX150, with a CVT. No shifting required.
It's still a bike, and I still have to wear a helmet and have a motorcycle license to drive it, but I no longer get many waves from guys on bikes.
[–]Bodygasm 3 points4 points5 points 1 day ago
Guilty. I live in Florida. It is fucking hot. Pretty common thing down here, I actually feel like that when I see someone decked out head to toe in gear. Just because someone has a different opinion than you does not mean you should treat em like a scooterscrub lol
[–]theartfuldubber 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
I ride in MD in the middle of summer with almost full gear (usually jeans instead of armored pants) and it isn't bad you just have to have the right gear. Perforated leather jackets and gloves offer the protection of dead cow and flow air like they aren't even there.
what's a "scooterscrub?"
[–]genunixDucati 748 45 points46 points47 points 1 day ago
So you think you're some kind of white knight holy crusader biker? Come off it you arrogant prick. You wouldn't have a bike to ride if people with balls didn't go out there and build them in the first place. Rider = brother.
[–]hendy84609 600RR 39 points40 points41 points 1 day ago
I wouldn't say Rider = brother. I've met a lot of assholes on group rides that are doing stupid shit in the middle of the pack and jerks in general off the bikes.
[–]shitworms 16 points17 points18 points 1 day ago
I've never been one to assume that a fellow rider is my brother and I generally cringe at all the "brotherhood" rhetoric tossed around. You, with your bike, may be cool, but you may be an annoying asshole who chews with your mouth open.
I'll still stop for anyone broken down or stuck somehow on the side of the road or trail and help as best I can and I'm always game to chat bikes in the parking lot, but we're not BFFs all of a sudden.
[–]Zenn1nja 4 points5 points6 points 1 day ago
Redditor+Biker? lets do dinner.
[–]shitworms 3 points4 points5 points 1 day ago
Only if you let me pay, new brotherfriend!
[–]Zenn1nja 2 points3 points4 points 1 day ago
Im cheap as fuck so this works.
[–]hendy84609 600RR 3 points4 points5 points 1 day ago
Absolutely. I'll be the first to admit I don't wear ATGATT but generally when I ride here in Seattle, most of the people who ride in shorts/shirts/flipflops are idiots when it comes to all around road safety, the proper mechanics of riding, etc. Not saying they are dicks but...yeah you get the idea.
[–]flynnski1982 Yamaha XJ750 Seca 7 points8 points9 points 1 day ago
There's an asshole kid brother in every family.
[–]Cerberus732004 'Zuki Volusia 800 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
Hey! I'm the only boy in the family...
<self-conscious>
[–]flynnski1982 Yamaha XJ750 Seca 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
Oh shit, me too. Welp.
[–]hendy84609 600RR 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
Too true my friend.
[–]parlezmoose 39 points40 points41 points 1 day ago
Rider = brother? Yeah naw, it's a mode of transportation not the fuckin' Marines.
[–]PandaK00sh'07 FZ6 4 points5 points6 points 1 day ago
Unless they're grumpy, hard-ass Harley riders that flip you off when you pass on a sportbike. Where's the "brotherhood" in that? Around here (LA area) there are more than enough.
[–]weagle11 2 points3 points4 points 1 day ago
Actually, if the guy is wearing sandals, not only is he putting himself at risk but he is also putting everyone else around him at risk. Sandals do not give sufficient grip or allow the rider to properly operate the motorcycle, specifically the brake. In an emergency situation the rider could easily loose his footing and therefore control of the bike, causing an accident he could otherwise avoid wearing proper riding shoes/boots.
[–]Belstaff2005 KTM 950 Adventure/ 88 Yamaha TZR 250 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
Not to mention that "Squid" could be 6 time the rider OP is for all he knows.
[–]hidden_munky -13 points-12 points-11 points 1 day ago
ATGATT
So you're saying we shouldn't wear seatbelts because the older folk didnt need it?
[–]ironhorsemtb2002 Bandit 1200S 20 points21 points22 points 1 day ago
The ATGATT talk has to quit, not everyone wears all their gear in 100+ weather in the summer. I fully accept the risk of crashing without gear, but I'm normally wearing my jacket and shorts and gloves. I've crashed before wearing the same and got back on my bike. Everyone accepts some sort of risk when saddling a motorcycle, but not everyone has to tell each other what to wear during the ride.
[–]weagle11 5 points6 points7 points 1 day ago*
This is the same as saying you shouldn't be telling someone to wear a seatbelt. It's their choice. However, the problem with this is the increased cost of healthcare from injuries that could be prevented by wearing gear or a seatbelt. This is fine in the case of people who have insurance and can pay their medical bills. However, when it's someone who uses some sort of government subsidized insurance or cannot cover medical bills it is ultimately costing tax payer dollars. So yes, when people are not wearing protective gear/seat belts it is having an effect on everyone, not just them.
[–]Basbhat06 DRZ400SM - 03 ZX6R -2 points-1 points0 points 1 day ago
Better make skydiving, contact sports, hell anything with a possibility of injury illegal.
God forbid anyone ever get hurt.
The point is to avoid injuries that can easily be avoided by wearing protective gear or taking other measures(like wearing a seat belt in a car). The point is not to avoid injuries completely. As you point out, that would be impossible without the complete elimination of the activity.
[–]Basbhat06 DRZ400SM - 03 ZX6R -1 points0 points1 point 1 day ago
Im sorry but I have insurance and will be taking responsibility for what happens to both me medically and my bike.
If I don't want to wear a leather jacket in 100+ degree weather nothing you say will change that. The argument to the taxpayers paying costs is only relevant if someone is squidding without any contingency plan. (insurance, medical etc. )
You can't regulate what people are allowed to wear to that degree.
Not sure what your argument is? You just agreed with everything I said. You can financially cover yourself should anything happen to you so what do I care what you're wearing. Taxpayers are paying for those who cannot cover themselves. This is what I stated above.
But seeing as some level of insurance is required there's not reason to give some guy a dirty look instead of a wave just cause youre wearing more gear at that particular moment.
[–]motophiliac1998 Honda Fireblade 8 points9 points10 points 1 day ago
Fucking said.
I agree. I've done the t-shirt, jeans and trainers thing. I've done the one-piece leathers thing. I've done most combinations in between.
If you're thinking about telling me I'm wrong, or I shouldn't, fuck off.
[–]No_Morals 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
Yes.
For my short rides to class, I go in shorts and a t-shirt. The other thing here is that others assume where you're going too. My rides last ~1-2min and I don't break 25mph. Bicycles go as fast as I do.
I've also been down in jeans and a sweatshirt while coming off the highway. Broke my hand but I'm back on the saddle and only gear up if I'm going somewhere other than around campus. And by gear up, I mean jeans a sweatshirt (and now gloves).
But they should tell us how else to live our lives.
[–]hidden_munky -9 points-8 points-7 points 1 day ago
Everyone accepts some sort of risk when saddling a motorcycle, but not everyone has to tell each other what to wear during the ride.
Education is a bad thing? I refuse to accept the notion that bad ideas should be encouraged.
but I'm normally wearing my jacket and shorts and gloves
sandals?
[–]truetofiction'04 Ninja 250 6 points7 points8 points 1 day ago
Education and judgement aren't the same thing.
[–]hidden_munky -6 points-5 points-4 points 1 day ago*
creationism.... thanks to lack of education we judge them to be stupid..
OP was mocking the idiots... I suggest you do the same?
Since when have we become above judging people for their actions as opposed to their opinions?
If I see someone acting like a COMPLETE idiot they are going to get laughed at or mocked....
Don't force this into some stupid reductionism.
you can;t function without judgement
[–]ezenbrowntown2007 Kawasaki Ninja 650R 5 points6 points7 points 1 day ago
How exactly did he get educated? "That man didn't wave at me. I've learned so much today."
[–]hidden_munky -7 points-6 points-5 points 1 day ago*
oh I don't know I suggest we just do this
'When a squid in shorts and sandals gives me the nod at a red light
http://i.imgur.com/G1UIX.gif '
smoking is cool bro... you shouldn't be judging people who smoke because you know that's arrogant and TOTALLY counter productive ..... actually no it's not
viewing people as socially lesser for smoking is actually what keeps people from smoking its science
Here's the thing. If the guy wanted to have a talk with the other biker about his lack of gear, I'd say go for it. He may or may not be well received, but he did what he thought was right.
However, his lack of a wave didn't convey this message to the guy. He never knew the slight was because of his lack of gear. All he knows is that a fellow rider was a douche and refused to wave back. He learned nothing.
[–]hidden_munky -5 points-4 points-3 points 1 day ago
so brave.... are we really arguing psychology online?
SELF DOUBt
[–]Sleward2007 Yamaha FZ1 2 points3 points4 points 1 day ago
Classic deflection. Stay on topic.
[–]hidden_munky -3 points-2 points-1 points 1 day ago
no... i'm busy.... come back later
I dont like reddit
....breathe
5....4..3..2...1..
ok brotha check it
If a hater come up and be trippin... he thinkin he one of the homies yo... but to get to where yo at in this life jack yo gotta be gettin me some sweet respect from all dat work ya dig?
If playa think he gold he gotta play the game else he just a wannabe with no jive to his hive. without no cred he got no lead.
http://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimjive/
[–]ironhorsemtb2002 Bandit 1200S 2 points3 points4 points 1 day ago
No sandals, never sandals. And I refuse to allow passengers to wear sandals either.
[–]SuspendTheDisbelief2000 Honda Shadow Sabre vt1100c2 2 points3 points4 points 1 day ago
I don't let passengers do it because I am directly responsible for them.
Everyone else can do whatever the hell they want.
[–]ironhorsemtb2002 Bandit 1200S 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
Exactly.
[–]miltown_muscle'92 Yamaha FZR600 -1 points0 points1 point 1 day ago
Do you even ride?
[–]hidden_munky -1 points0 points1 point 1 day ago
do you?
honestly?
[–]miltown_muscle'92 Yamaha FZR600 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
Yes, sir. And believe it or not, I usually gear up too. Around town during the summer, however, I'm sometimes that guy in shorts and a t-shirt, and it makes me sad you would think yourself above waving to me. Save your judgement for how someone rides, not how they dress.
[–]hidden_munky 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
my past self from the dark ages had your viewpoint...
who needs armour.. DON'T JUDGE ME
anyway agfter I had my insides cut out of me I felt like I do now
Well now that's a valid reason to gear up! I suppose if I had an experience like that, I would hold the same opinions you do. I would probably still wave to non-gear wearers though. Not wearing gear doesn't make someone an asshole you shouldn't acknowledge. Maybe in the future you can share your experience with those who don't wear gear, rather than outcasting them.
[–]miltown_muscle'92 Yamaha FZR600 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
Also, think about the different reasons people ride. Right now, my only means of transportation is my motorcycle, so if I'm going someplace like the mall in the summer to do some shopping, I'm not going to go ATGATT. What the hell would I do with all my gear once I get there?
Whenever I ride for pure pleasure, I'll go full gear. But sometimes the situation doesn't allow for full gear, so I'll accept the risk and not fully gear up.
[–]bbasara0071990 FZR 600 4 points5 points6 points 1 day ago
Safety aside, how the hell do you ride anywhere above 55 mph without losing your eyesight? I also rather have the mass amount of insects on my visor stay on my visor rather than my face.I once rode with sandals and it was just uncomfortable to shift. To each their own but when someone makes the argument that they rather be more comfortable I just wonder HOW THE HELL IS THAT MORE COMFORTABLE!!
Plus come on guys... leather jackets look cool as fk
That's what I don't get either. I'm in MD so helmets are mandatory but I was visiting a buddy in Texas and just for giggles took his bike out without a helmet. Anything over 50mph had my ears ringing and my vision even with my glasses was pretty blurry. I ride in a 3/4 shell sometimes around town but even then I wear goggles because my eyes dry out like a mother without any wind protection.
[–]RHINO1452008 Honda CB400 Super 4 2 points3 points4 points 1 day ago
I am a big fan of ATGATT but it should not be enforced.
I will still nod to you if you have no gear on, that does not mean i wont mock you for being an idiot.
[–]shitworms 9 points10 points11 points 1 day ago
Get over yourself and dont be a self-righteous douchebag. Posts like this really make me hate this subreddit but the amount of shit you're getting makes me feel better about its members.
[–]hangerbaby1998 Honda Superhawk -3 points-2 points-1 points 1 day ago
Woah, someone's got their sandals in a bunch!
[–]jmscharff21998 Harley Davidson Fatboy 2 points3 points4 points 1 day ago
psh Ive ridden in crocks before and shorts....dont hate till you have tried it, sweating your balls off in your racing leathers on your 250s lol
[–]deck_hand2013 Honda PCX150 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
And when you do, I shrug it off because I know that there are assholes of all kinds, even one's who ride motorcycles. Enjoy your prejudice. I'll keep having fun just riding my bike.
Oh, and before you tell me about how dangerous it is, and how I'll soon be a road rash victim - I started riding in 1972. While I could have an accident tomorrow, I've got many, many years worth of accident free riding.
[–]InvalidUserFame 2 points3 points4 points 1 day ago
Stanley deserves better than this post.
[–]MoraleHazard 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago*
I ride attgatt but don't get all huffy on people who don't. That said, it only takes one bad crash to convince people to wear at least a minimal amount of gear and hopefully they'll live through that crash with a minimum of pain and suffering and I think some non-geared riders, especially the shorts and flipflops crowd, are often willfully ignorant about the additional risks they take on.
However, OP, you should just wave back if someone waves to you. It's polite and courteous.
[–]Quakee06 gixxer 1k 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
I'm the squid who waves/nods to everyone on 2 wheels and the occasional trike. You're a judgemental douche with a superiority complex. I'm ok with who I am and you probably are too. Keep the shiny side up, bro. See you out there.
[–]jimi-j-jam2006 BMW 1150GS Adventure 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
Most of the time, I'm ATGATT. On the GS, I'm decked out in Sidi Discovery boots, Racer High End gloves, full BMW suit, Arai helmet, etc. On sportbikes, usually my leathers, back protector, etc. I mean, I spend on quality gear and wear it on rides. That said.... Past couple of nights, I did some errands in tennis shoes, t-shirt, shorts, but always gloves and helmet. Hey, I'm not getting suited up to run down to the store for butter. Can it bite me? Yes, but I'm obviously willing to take that chance. Just be careful judging someone you see for a second.
[–]texx772003 Honda CBR 600RR 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
So because of the attire of another person you have never met, you are going to be an asshole.
He isn't hurting anyone but himself. If he wants to die horribly that's his choice, it doesn't mean you need to be prick.
[–]hateriffic 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
Because you the most extraordinary and coolest motorcycle rider person ever
[–]AbandonedLogic2006 HD Dyna FXDBI 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
This reddit has become a huge circlejerk hasn't it..
[–]erermiskm2009 Ninja 250r 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
The only reason I can see for treating someone without gear differently is the fact that when these people have accidents they make our insurance rates go upupupup.
But other than that we are all riders here and if they are willing to take that risk well then that is their prerogative. No need to get pretentious about it.
[–]robocorgi2006 Kawasaki Ninja 650r NoVA 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
Haha this gif is perfect!
This is also my face (for the most part) when someone in a 'racing car' revs their engine at me when at a red light.
[–]mrdotkom 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
I don't care what you ride, what you wear, or who you are I will wave when I see you because we're all risking our lives for the joys of riding.
The class I'm teaching is having a "silent work period" and I lol'd hard-core when I saw this, much to my chagrin.
[–]AlturrangKawasaki Vulcan 900 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
Is this you? http://i46.tinypic.com/t4utk2.jpg =D
Bwa ha ha! No, but that's what I'm basically doing.
[–]DantesDame -9 points-8 points-7 points 1 day ago
I'm embarrassed to admit that I feel the same way. And when a helmet-less rider waves at me, I'm hesitant to wave back. Why should I waste my time with someone who doesn't even give a shit about his own life?
[–]theartfuldubber -4 points-3 points-2 points 1 day ago
When someone rides by and waves without a lid I'll wave back, but then immediately point at my head and give them a thumbs down and shake my head. Sometimes they get pissed, but after watching my buddy skid 90 feet on the front of his full face helmet and come up without a scratch... I'm sold.
[–]SkrimSuzuki GSF650 Bandit K6 -7 points-6 points-5 points 1 day ago
Yeah, why should you?! Fuck those 47%ers!
[–]TreesACrowd2010 Triumph Street Triple -8 points-7 points-6 points 1 day ago
Don't be embarassed. If they aren't smart enough to make the decision based on safety, maybe they'll do it when they see people look down on it. And then you might have saved someone's life.
...Not likely though. These are squids we're talking about.
[–]Sleward2007 Yamaha FZ1 1 point2 points3 points 1 day ago
I know a way to completely eliminate the dangers of riding a motorcycle. Don't ride a motorcycle. By your shitty logic just the fact that you're riding means you are an inferior and rather dumb individual for putting yourself at risk when you can be safe in a car.
[–]TreesACrowd2010 Triumph Street Triple -1 points0 points1 point 1 day ago*
when you can be safe in a car.
There's the fallacy of your logic again. Cars are inherently dangerous too, it's just a matter of degree. And there are characteristics of bikes and cars that make them suited to different transportation needs. Not so with two motorcyclists on the same bike, one in gear and one in shorts and sandals. But by the logic encountered in this thread, since bikes don't have airbags there's no reason to wear protective gear and we may as well ride in sandals and shorts. There's no way to defend that statement, sorry.
By YOUR shitty logic, we should all be living in plastic bubbles and rubbing ourselves with hand sanitizer every 5 minutes OR, as an alternative, riding off cliffs at 200 miles an hour just for the rush of the free fall. Your fallacy is in failing to realize that ALL OF LIFE'S ACTIVITIES fall in between these two extremes, and that we should take the simple steps to mitigate risk while still being able to enjoy what makes us happy. Wearing a fucking helmet and some pants/shoes does not make riding a motorcycle less fun.
[–]mrdotkom -6 points-5 points-4 points 1 day ago
Really? I'm not an ATGATT guy but I know good shoes, gloves and a helmet will seriously increase safety and make it comfortable to ride. As for not waving, you're a douche bag and you're lucky I don't follow you around blaring my horn until you ACKNOWLEDGE MY EXISTENCE!
I think this is a great comment, you shouldn't be downvoted. You are stating your opinion, promoting safe riding, and ending the comment with some comical relief.
[–]Poggus2005 CBR1000RR Repsol 0 points1 point2 points 1 day ago
http://i.imgur.com/qIKki.jpg
This is me at a stop light. Don't feel like waving to me? I'm too hot to care that you're an asshole.
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