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Bought a new laptop, I know what the first thing I'm uninstalling is... (i.imgur.com)
submitted 18 hours ago by Mr_Cj
[–]dfGobBluth 259 points260 points261 points 16 hours ago
First thing i do when i buy a new laptop is format and install an oem windows.
[–]pburn883 65 points66 points67 points 16 hours ago
Some laptops (dells, Hp's etc) force you to download bloatware to install their drivers. Always hated laptops
[–]lazyslacker 159 points160 points161 points 15 hours ago
With most of those, you can just open the driver file as an archive (like with 7zip or winrar), extract the drivers, then install the drivers via the device manager.
[–]G_Morgan 55 points56 points57 points 14 hours ago
Not to mention that Windows update will carry most drivers these days. So literally you just need a network connection once. MS don't ship bloatware crap with Windows update drivers.
[–]gospelwut 12 points13 points14 points 11 hours ago
USUALLY.
I'm still paranoid back from the olden days when one would pray to the Driver God for forgiveness and compassion.
That is to say, I still am always scared the LAN driver won't work.
However, realistically, my experience with Windows 7 - while a good OS - it doesn't play perfectly with some of the newer chipset drivers, especially USB3/etc. Of course, the OS will get you far enough to get to the Dell/HP website and download what you need.
Though, I usually pre-download the drivers and throw them on a samba share, RDP into the new machine, etc.
/uber lazy
You can also use nLite and vLite to pre-install the drivers into the ISO itself -- which works with the USB windows 7 tool.
If only all vendors had CAB files like Dell.
http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/enterprise-client/w/wiki/2065.dell-driver-cab-files-for-enterprise-client-os-deployment.aspx
[–]theBeefyRhino 25 points26 points27 points 11 hours ago
They do try to sneak Bing Bar in through Windows Update though.
[–]myztry 10 points11 points12 points 11 hours ago
Trojan Horse.
An update service containing non-updates.
[–]MachaHack 27 points28 points29 points 9 hours ago
iTunes is the worst among big companies. "Oh, I see you have iTunes for that iOS device. I guess you want Safari, Quick time and Mobile Me too, right? See, I've ever ticked them here in your iTunes update dialog. Aren't I nice?" I bet Safari probably sets its as the default browser If you let it install.
[–]MertsA 33 points34 points35 points 9 hours ago
Let's not forget Oracle adding in "Oh, I see you're updating java, I'll just throw in a free trial of McAfee for you". ಠ_ಠ
[–]BraveSirRobin 5 points6 points7 points 8 hours ago
ATI drivers used to push pay-to-play games (WoW IIRC) but it seems they've stopped that recently.
[–]bluesquared 2 points3 points4 points 8 hours ago
I see huge BORDERLANDS 2 stuff all over my nvidia drivers nowadays.
[–]thecritic06 8 points9 points10 points 8 hours ago
And here, just for the hell of it, is Bonjour. Do you know what it does? No. Will you ever? No. Will you ever use it intentionally or otherwise? No. But now you are stuck with it forever.
[–]myztry 0 points1 point2 points 9 hours ago
I am no fan of iTunes or any of the other multitude of applications that attempt to bootstrap other applications, but it's a whole different story than utilising an OS as a leverage point.
That is antitrust level misbehaviour when an OS is used as a tiered market leverage point as opposed to applications which first need to be installed by the end user.
[–]BraveSirRobin 8 points9 points10 points 8 hours ago
as opposed to applications which first need to be installed by the end user.
iTunes is required to utilize hardware you have bought. It's clearly not legit to push Safari as a default browser via this to a public which does not fully understand the technology.
[–]Gudeldar 1 point2 points3 points 6 hours ago
The only thing I see in Windows Update is Bing Desktop which is in optional and not selected by default.
[–]40percent 0 points1 point2 points 1 hour ago
What? Can you repeat that?
[–]Gudeldar 0 points1 point2 points 6 hours ago
[–]pburn883 25 points26 points27 points 15 hours ago
TIL....Thanks
[–]boomerxl 20 points21 points22 points 15 hours ago
Once you're done, back up all the drivers to a safe location and you're set for (the laptop's) life.
[–]Boosh_The_Almighty 6 points7 points8 points 15 hours ago
Or until updates. But those are usually only needed if you find a problem.
[–]BraveSirRobin 3 points4 points5 points 8 hours ago
I used to keep drivers. Hoard them even. Then I learned to stop worrying and love the internet.
[–]boomerxl 2 points3 points4 points 7 hours ago
Me too, until I got stuck with a reinstall on a laptop with "I can't believe it's not Atheros" wifi, and no Ethernet holes to pipe Internet in.
Windows wouldn't see the wifi card without the drivers. That's the same day we officially stopped fixing personal laptops.
[–]mb9023 0 points1 point2 points 2 hours ago
I always have another PC handy to download drivers if I have to and put them on my flash drive.
[–]brawr 3 points4 points5 points 13 hours ago
You can backup all your drivers, just like that? How?
I've been reinstalling them all one by one my whole life.
[–]down_with_cats 20 points21 points22 points 12 hours ago
All of your drivers are put in C:\Windows\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository when you install them on a system.
If you back up this directory you'll only need to point missing drivers to the backup and tell it to search subdirectories.
[–]KMartSheriff 5 points6 points7 points 12 hours ago
Never knew that. Thanks for the info
[–]brawr 0 points1 point2 points 8 hours ago
Thanks for the tip! That's definitely going to save me some time during future installs.
[–]kitsua -1 points0 points1 point 6 hours ago
Commenting for future usefulness. Cheers!
[–]thegreatunclean 3 points4 points5 points 13 hours ago
He means keep the files extracted from the blob, not that you can get Windows itself to export all active drivers presently installed. With the files set aside the next re-format is much easier because everything is on hand.
Still have to install them one-by-one unless you get some magic scripting to automate the process, but honestly you shouldn't be spending that much time doing the actual driver installs. The bulk of the time is spent tracking down version XYZ from servers that are apparently located in a third-world country using IPoAC for their connections.
e: Apparently you can get Windows to export active drivers using third-party programs. Never used it myself, YMMV.
[–]bananinhao 0 points1 point2 points 13 hours ago
Had to do this in my desktop
[–]chadeusmaximus 0 points1 point2 points 12 hours ago
Really? thanks for the tip!
[–]redditwhathaveUdone -1 points0 points1 point 10 hours ago
Based on your name I trust you've never actually done this.
[–]Bjartr 1 point2 points3 points 3 hours ago
I've found that UniExtract can extract drivers from even the most stubborn installers.
[–]R031E5 14 points15 points16 points 15 hours ago
Extract the drivers before formatting: http://sourceforge.net/projects/drvback/
[–]KingDaveRa 7 points8 points9 points 15 hours ago
It's worth nothing that a good proportion of laptops I've seen, have the driver installers sitting in the root of the C drive often these days. I just back that folder up, and it gets you everything you need to set it back up when the inevitable format happens. You can then pick and choose which drivers to install.
[–]effedup 1 point2 points3 points 14 hours ago
Never used this before but it will be very valuable to me. Upvote.
[–]354317d0ca91ae2cd904 16 points17 points18 points 15 hours ago
I always get the drivers from support.dell.com without any other 'bloatware'. You must be doing it wrong.
[–]TC10284 -1 points0 points1 point 15 hours ago
That's what I'm saying too...
I'm also curious how you remember your username.
[–]354317d0ca91ae2cd904 8 points9 points10 points 15 hours ago
LastPass remembers it.
[–]tcpip4lyfe 0 points1 point2 points 8 hours ago
Same with HP. Just reformatted a probook today and there is 0 bloatware on it.
[–]dublea 0 points1 point2 points 12 hours ago
I've never seen that before. Do you have some examples? I only ask as I have to install drivers on a daily basis and have never ran into it.
[–]gospelwut 0 points1 point2 points 11 hours ago
No? Perhaps you're installing ALL the packages on the driver site.
[–]JumpYouBastards 0 points1 point2 points 10 hours ago
PC laptops
[–]SanityInAnarchy 0 points1 point2 points 9 hours ago
Really? The ones I've used seem to allow me to uncheck those when installing.
That, and Win7 has more drivers out of the box anyway.
[–]Falmarri 14 points15 points16 points 9 hours ago
First thing i do when i buy a new laptop is format and install an oem windows linux.
[–]andyfrank 6 points7 points8 points 6 hours ago
so edgy
[–]blahblahblah5038 3 points4 points5 points 4 hours ago
SO BRAVE
[–]bobsil1 3 points4 points5 points 2 hours ago
So sudo
[–]c4ntr34dth15 1 point2 points3 points 1 hour ago
So su
[–]Arve 0 points1 point2 points 1 hour ago
Well, aren't you the feisty one?
[–]Pappenheimer 99 points100 points101 points 15 hours ago
It's geeky to uninstall the Bing toolbar? Seriously?
[–]ewilliam 55 points56 points57 points 14 hours ago
I think the descriptor you're searching for is "brave".
[–]BlazeOrangeDeer 29 points30 points31 points 13 hours ago
And the adverb 'so'
[–]Canama 22 points23 points24 points 12 hours ago
And the article "le"
[–]spacedout83 16 points17 points18 points 10 hours ago
Brave Solé… It's French, you wouldn't understand it.
[–]ch00f 1 point2 points3 points 6 hours ago
I had that last week for dinner. It was delicious.
[–]deepit6431 12 points13 points14 points 12 hours ago
http://i.imgur.com/FEltz.png
[–]spacedout83 5 points6 points7 points 10 hours ago
As an epileptic, sometimes I'm so glad I'm not photosensitive.
[–]mb9023 1 point2 points3 points 2 hours ago
That went really well with the music I had on.
[–]Vondi 15 points16 points17 points 13 hours ago
Speaking as someone who once made a living in IT Tech; Yes, uninstalling tool-bars displays more tech-savvy than most people have.
[–]NancyGracesTesticles 3 points4 points5 points 8 hours ago
People can change their own oil, too. But I assure you that the only takeaway you get from someone trumpeting about changing their own oil is that they are kinda sad, bored and/or lonely.
[–]Pappenheimer 10 points11 points12 points 13 hours ago
Sure, but that doesn't make it noteworthy.
[–]Psythik 9 points10 points11 points 11 hours ago
OP took a picture of his monitor. He's only pretending to be a geek.
[–]AdmiralEO 3 points4 points5 points 8 hours ago
Now I want to re-install my OS so I can try to take a screenshot of the installation process.
...good luck.
[–]mechchic84 0 points1 point2 points 8 hours ago
Well than id hate to see what i really classify as...
[–]InvaderOfTech 22 points23 points24 points 16 hours ago
Nuke and Pave!
[–]ducttape36 9 points10 points11 points 16 hours ago
if you buy from the microsoft store online it doesn't come with a bunch of crap on it.
[–]couchmonster 0 points1 point2 points 5 hours ago
Signature laptops I think they're called
[–]richard_nixon 167 points168 points169 points 16 hours ago
Who gives a shit? Uninstall whatever the fuck you want to uninstall.
What are we supposed to discuss here?
sincerely,
Richard Nixon
[–]Mr_Cj[S] 62 points63 points64 points 16 hours ago
Just thought it was ridiculous that I had to install it just to use the laptop.
[–]movzx 59 points60 points61 points 16 hours ago
It was already installed as part of the OEM image hence the reason you had to agree to the license. You'd get the same sort of thing if the loaded Google desktop search
[–]altometer 8 points9 points10 points 14 hours ago
You mean you don't re-image every machine you get? for shaaaaaame.
[–]groberts1980 2 points3 points4 points 12 hours ago
Please don't feed the trolls.
[–]syuk 1 point2 points3 points 11 hours ago
You could have just smashed it up or clicked 'OK' and then do what you want.
I have two copies of windows xp sp3 which will be valuable come the end-times.
[–]Luckycoz 10 points11 points12 points 14 hours ago
Richard, you're a Dick.
[–]Afro_Samurai 2 points3 points4 points 13 hours ago
Watergate.
[–]nixon_is_a_cunt 0 points1 point2 points 2 hours ago
what a cunt.
[–]Qu0the 41 points42 points43 points 15 hours ago
Generally the first thing I uninstall on a new laptop is windows.
[–]toejam119 34 points35 points36 points 14 hours ago
Generally the first thing I uninstall after trying a linux distro is the linux distro.
[–]Sawta -1 points0 points1 point 2 hours ago*
Speaking of uninstalling things and Linux:
"Hm, I'm not crazy about this open source program that I just downloaded. Where's the download folder so I can remove the install file before I uninstall this shit? Hm...alright I guess there is downloads folder. Okay, whatever. I'll just uninstall it through control panel with Add/Remove programs. Oh, okay, I guess it doesn't have an option to uninstall things that way. Uh...so just right-click delete this single file then? I'm fucking positive that this thing installed crap into other directories that I don't know about. Is there a Readme file saying where it installed crap? Nope. Where the fuck is the uninstall button?! Fuck it. Reformat the fucking thing and just don't install that program."
I usually end up doing this close to 10 times in a row before giving up in a huff every few years. I'm sure that there's some command to be run to do what it is that I was trying to do, which is cool but I don't want to do it that way. Make that command a god damn button, then put that button into a fancy window called "uninstall programs" or something similarly named.
Edit: Also, I haven't checked in the last Ubuntu distro or two, but I'd bet money that sound drivers still aren't functioning on Apple laptops and desktops.
[–]scragar 1 point2 points3 points 11 hours ago
To try a different one?
[–]toejam119 9 points10 points11 points 10 hours ago*
I tried Ubuntu, which is called the "linux for humans" or the easiest to use. Compared to Windows it's hard to use when it comes to installing some programs that are not on the "click-and-install" list.
I tried it three times. 2006, 2008 and 2012. It has come a long way since 2006 but I still have to google 15 - 60 min when I want to install some programs or get something to work which I could get to work in Windows with a couple of clicks. In Ubuntu I often have to copy-paste some funky lines of code and use terminal to install software. Something I completely laid to rest in late 90's when I moved away from MS-DOS 6.22/7 to Windows 98 and then 2000. And still it was easier to install software on MS-DOS, you just type the name of setup.exe file and then there is a install wizard. In Ubuntu you have to type lines of code.
Second problem is that it was missing some of my favorite and crucial software that I use in Windows environment.
I don't think it gets any better on other distros.
example:
MS-DOS (in 1993) I install a game or software.
Go to folder (type: CD FOLDER)
launch setup (type: setup)
follow wizard, done.
Ubuntu (in 2012) I install software.
Search software, google how to install it (since linux doesn't have downloadable/clickable setup.exe files)
this how you install it:
Add this line to your list of repositories by editing your /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://repository.spotify.com stable non-free
If you want to verify the downloaded packages, you will need to add our public key
sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 94558F59
Run apt-get update
sudo apt-get update
Install spotify!
sudo apt-get install spotify-client
ok I'll just copy these lines into terminal.
whoops you cannot edit sources.list, let's start another google session on how to do that
Backup first:
sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.old
Edit:
gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
I'm not sure if that worked with me or if I had to do something in "root" to get that edit to work but holy shit, I just wanted to install spotify.
Compare this to Windows XP/7
goto spotify.com, click download spotify
click downloaded setup file, click yes
you're done.
[–]nolongerresisting 5 points6 points7 points 8 hours ago
Just want to point out that this is not a problem with Linux, but with the software distributors. They could easily provide a binary.
FWIW I actually prefer having software repositories. On Windows it's a constant cycle of downloading and running installers and then doing it again to update each program (individually). Linux you do a yum or apt-get install <program name> and it'll manage updates too. Since i'm mostly at the terminal it's so much quicker.
[–]kasbah 1 point2 points3 points 7 hours ago
The problem is to make a binary/package that will work for all distros.
The repository is definitely the way to go but I guess adding a repository should be easier. Alternatively, if Ubuntu had the something like AUR but a GUI to install packages from it that would be perfect.
[–]InvisibleUp 3 points4 points5 points 9 hours ago
Shouldn't it just be a matter of "double click this .deb file"? That's how my programs installed if they weren't already in the store.
[–]toejam119 0 points1 point2 points 6 hours ago
It should. However I don't recall seeing any .deb files that I could click that I remember when installing programs that were not in the software list.
The sudo apt get thingy usually worked though.
[–]baconOclock 1 point2 points3 points 3 hours ago
Really? Hummm, lets say I want to install skype and dropbox, lets take a look...
http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/downloading.ubuntu64
https://www.dropbox.com/download?dl=packages/ubuntu/dropbox_1.4.0_amd64.deb
[–]Saiing 3 points4 points5 points 7 hours ago
I've been developing software since 1979, working on Unix systems since the 1980s and administrating Linux machines since about 1995 (slowly watching it grow and develop into the substantial OS it is today) and I agree with everything you just wrote.
That's a perfect example of why Linux on the desktop still has a way to go. In response to someone else who replied to you: Whose fault it is doesn't matter. The end user doesn't care about whether it's the application developer, distro packager, hardware manufacturer, driver developer, kernel programmer or Uncle Tom Cobley's fault. It either works or it doesn't, is easy or it isn't. There's no doubt Linux has come a hell of a long way, but it still suffers from being developed by people who are already technically-minded, many of whom are happy for their OS of choice just to work for them, and don't really have much time for "casual" users.
[–]another_user_name 2 points3 points4 points 6 hours ago
Well, no. They're not called .exe files. But there are .deb files for Ubuntu, for instance. And PPA files. You can click to install them.
Stuff that's in the repositories is really easy to install.
I get the feeling that the software you're installing has a major effect on this. It doesn't look like Spotify has an Ubuntu installer, but that doesn't mean Ubuntu installers don't exist.
In Ubuntu you have to type lines of code.
Yeah, I don't think so.
It seems your experience has more to do with the software you like to use than anything else. If the software vendor or distributor puts out a .deb or a PPA, click to install works just fine. Or better yet, if they put their stuff in the actual repositories.
[–]toejam119 -1 points0 points1 point 6 hours ago*
But there are .deb files for Ubuntu, for instance.
That sounds great. I don't recall seeing any with my last try, though. Maybe I'll see them in the future.
I saw a lot of "tar.gz" files, which I remember I didn't get to work.
[–]lupononcrepi 1 point2 points3 points 7 hours ago
The only time I've had to do anything that complicated was trying to install certain drivers that aren't actually for the latest Ubuntu. Most of the time I just run the .deb file and it installs right away.
Also, as a side note, Spotify doesn't support Linux except through Wine or an unsupported Linux preview that is likely broken nine times out of ten.
[–]HopeThisNameFi 0 points1 point2 points 7 hours ago
The "unsupported Linux preview" works very well actually.
Yes, after googling for a long time after I got it to install and work, the Spotify preview worked great.
[–]bobjohnsonmilw -1 points0 points1 point 5 hours ago
You forgot about all your malware installations.
[–]toejam119 0 points1 point2 points 1 hour ago
Yeah, I've had malware on my Windows many many years ago and that was because I took a chance and tried to install pirated software from a shady website (should always do that in a sandbox, or install only from sources you trust).
If you know how to use Linux you sure as hell know what is software possibly containing malware.
Having a separate installer for whatever program I want to install is exactly what I don't want Linux to become.
Having a single point of update + signed packages that are trivial to install > Windows bloated shitware of questionable origin with 9000 updaters stealing my CPU cycles and Ram.
[–]toejam119 -1 points0 points1 point 1 hour ago
Windows bloated shitware of questionable origin with 9000 updaters stealing my CPU cycles and Ram.
If you use questionable software then you have questionable origins. If you update windows, the origin is signed drivers & software from microsoft.com, or let's say paint.net, then the origin is paint.net. Use software that you trust.
Also you can set programs to update whenever YOU want them to, not whenever they can or want.
[–]scragar 0 points1 point2 points 1 hour ago
Or just enable the option in the settings(in the package manager Tools>Options, click tab for alternate sources, enable whichever one you need, or paste the link into the text box and click add) and use the GUI like a normal person.
It's been made available via the GUI since 2006, you've no reason to use the command line for installing programs.
[–]MxM111 5 points6 points7 points 14 hours ago
Why would you do that? I mean, why would you buy laptop with windows if you uninstalling it?
[–]johnnydunk 23 points24 points25 points 14 hours ago
Have you ever walked in to BestBuy and asked what they have that runs Ubuntu?
[–]tehbored 31 points32 points33 points 12 hours ago
No. Why would I ever walk into a Best Buy?
[–]pHreaksYcle 14 points15 points16 points 12 hours ago
Have you ever walked in to BestBuy
No.
I don't think any of the sales associates would know what Ubuntu was.
[–]YimYimYimi 7 points8 points9 points 14 hours ago
Because nobody anywhere sells laptops without Windows. But when you buy a laptop, it's gonna have tons of bloatware and garbage on it from the manufacturer. It's better just to install a brand new, clean Windows to work with.
I mean, your question is, "...why would you buy laptop with windows if you uninstalling it?" What other laptop are you gonna buy? A Macbook? No, I like my money Hell, if I really want to use OS X then I'll just hackintosh it up. A Linux laptop? What store are you gonna find one at. The price of Windows is factored into the cost of the laptop.
[–]MxM111 3 points4 points5 points 14 hours ago
http://linuxpreloaded.com/ or use google to find it.
[–]RatherDashing 1 point2 points3 points 13 hours ago
i just bought a sager laptop 6 months ago and didn't get windows on it.
[–]xr3llx 5 points6 points7 points 14 hours ago
One large factor is the license adds roughly $100 to the price. It's not a well known fact due to never being promoted as well as being buried on the site--hell, many sales reps have no idea--but you can order your new computer open-source (OS-free or ubuntu) from Dell.
Source: Worked in call center for two years.
[–]rkolb86 0 points1 point2 points 13 hours ago
You generally don't save much getting it OS free. Sometimes you pay more. Sometimes you can't get the same exact laptop with what you wanted in it.
It would be a great idea in theory.
[–]xr3llx 1 point2 points3 points 13 hours ago
The selection is indeed limited, though it does rotate. Also, while the price often comes out the same as the models with an OS, the hardware usually makes up for such. My point being, barring a special which starts with heavily negative profit margin, and assuming you will be doing a clean install regardless, one may as well get a processor and ram upgrade at no additional cost.
[–]Fauropitotto[] 1 point2 points3 points 9 hours ago
Because the vast majority of laptops come bundled with an operating system that comes bundled with a shitload of bloatware (unwanted and unnecessary software) that comes bundled with the laptop's drivers.
Often, the easiest way to handle this problem is to simply format the laptop, then install whichever version/edition of windows/linux distro/OS you would prefer. After which, you would simply install the laptop's driver's directly from the manufacturers without the bloatware.
Is this really that hard of a concept to understand?
[–]suddenly_ponies 13 points14 points15 points 16 hours ago
PcDecrapifier
Use it... Love it
[–]ScotteeMC 7 points8 points9 points 14 hours ago
http://mylittlefacewhen.com
My god, that might just be the worst website I have ever happened upon.
[–]Ryan_Firecrotch 0 points1 point2 points 7 hours ago
The guy's name is Suddenly_Ponies..
[–]Sawta 0 points1 point2 points 2 hours ago
Having a novelty account doesn't justify posting bullshit.
[–]Ryan_Firecrotch 0 points1 point2 points 2 hours ago
It's not a novelty, his name just signifies he's a mlp fan and odds are one of his favorite websites (the shock) is devoted to his favorite show.
[–]Saiing 21 points22 points23 points 16 hours ago
Fucking whoopey-doo for you. Why should anyone here care?
[–]BrawlStrogg88 -1 points0 points1 point 14 hours ago
Because the Hivemind hates Bing... for some really retarded reason. Yet it's the same Hivemind who scream ANTI-COMPETITION at EA. So don't worry too much.
rolls eyes
[–]usingpond 2 points3 points4 points 6 hours ago
The only thing braver than agreeing with most people on a subject is being intentionally contrarian without offering a single positive argument in your defense.
[–]theRainChicken 0 points1 point2 points 5 hours ago
Bing isn't that bad and Google needs competition or else they'll stagnate.
[–]BrawlStrogg88 0 points1 point2 points 19 minutes ago
Oh I've had the arguments and 'discussions' before about the benefits of Bing and how it directly affects Google's search engine...
But alas, Reddit thinks Google can do no wrong.
Also the "So Brave" thing cracks me up everytime.
[–]fani 3 points4 points5 points 13 hours ago
I like Bing and I use it a lot but hell even I uninstalled this thing.
Companies need to realize that you don't need the Google toolbar, bing toolbar and this and other shit to annoy us.
How difficult is it to launch a browser and type in bing.com and bing ?
[–]myztry 1 point2 points3 points 10 hours ago
I am the same with Google. Much prefer them but still uninstall the Google toolbar when I encounter it.
Indeed, I uninstall all toolbars. Toolbars are a category that need to be removed from browsers altogether.
[–]hobbitlover 0 points1 point2 points 13 hours ago
Or set your browser to automatically open in Google/Bing, or open new tabs in Google/Bing.
[–]istrebitjel 0 points1 point2 points 4 hours ago
I always do it like this https://www.google.com/search?q=www.bing.com
/s
[–]willystylee 3 points4 points5 points 13 hours ago
Eeeughh... god, i had to do this just the other day on my mom's new laptop. It's insulting, i'll go ahead and say it. Fuck you Bing, fuck you Norton, fuck you CyberlinkDVD, fuck all of you and your bloatware. Give up. Stop wasting your money creating this shit, people get better software that's free that does everything you could ever claim to do and better. Give the fuck up.
[–]Kosko 55 points56 points57 points 17 hours ago
I actually love bing's new desktop everyday. Work friendly high res images sync'd daily.
[–]ew73 27 points28 points29 points 16 hours ago
Bing's visual appeal is amazing. It's pretty and those little "hidden" spots relevant to the image are neat.
That said, Bing's search still blows.
[–]emekb8 19 points20 points21 points 15 hours ago
But that commercial on Hulu tells me that, in a blind test, people prefer Bing 2 to 1 over Google!
[–]rabidstoat 15 points16 points17 points 15 hours ago
I humored them and took the test. They have you rate search results 5 times, they are formatted the same, so it is just rating results and not aesthetics.
I forget what I searched on, but I had a tie 2 out of 5 times, and picked Google 3 out of 5.
[–]JonnyRocks 2 points3 points4 points 13 hours ago
i find it depends what you search for but in the end it's the same.
[–]Sluggy 2 points3 points4 points 13 hours ago
I ran through that a couple of times and usually it was 3/5 or 4/5 in favor of Bing. I decided to stick with it a couple weeks and give it an honest eval.
How did it turn out, or is it going on right now? I've given it a shot a couple of times and had sub-par results, not necessarily terrible, just not good.
I'm interested to know what kind of stuff you typically search for, if you don't mind sharing. I usually need to troubleshoot things and Bing has always seemed to bring me to the oddest, back alley sites when there are perfectly good answers on say, eHow or Stackexchange.
[–]nanowerx 7 points8 points9 points 14 hours ago
Bing is great for porn and erotic images....so my buddy tells me.
[–]hobbitlover 5 points6 points7 points 13 hours ago
I have the same buddy.
[–]SideburnsOfDoom 1 point2 points3 points 11 hours ago
What he's talking about is "bing desktop" not bing the website. Bing desktop has no "hidden" spots. It puts a great new wallpaper on my desktop every day. Then I shut it down until the next day.
[–]Nodules 19 points20 points21 points 16 hours ago
Downvoted into oblivion for having a favourable opinion of Bing?
Stay cool, redditors, you shower of bastards.
[–]DancingWithKafka 34 points35 points36 points 16 hours ago
I prefer the term flotilla of douchecanoes.
[–]tedtutors 8 points9 points10 points 14 hours ago
If you have 99 douchecanoes, you can retrofit it into an 80s pop song.
[–]BrawlStrogg88 1 point2 points3 points 14 hours ago
....Oh you're such a shit. Do you know what you've gone and done?
[–]DancingWithKafka 1 point2 points3 points 14 hours ago
NEUN-UND-NEUNZIG LUFTBALLOONS!!
[–]Kosko 4 points5 points6 points 15 hours ago
I didn't realize this would be one of my most contested comments. I'm really just impressed daily by Bing's desktop choices.
[–]ntorotn 0 points1 point2 points 10 hours ago
You sound like a commercial or a Microsoft employee.
[–]Kosko 2 points3 points4 points 7 hours ago
Really just promoting a free service I happen to enjoy.
[–]syuk -1 points0 points1 point 11 hours ago
can we just talk about Rampart please.
[–]bobjohnsonmilw 7 points8 points9 points 14 hours ago
I get a lot of joy from immediately formatting and installing Linux.
[–]lilnizzle 6 points7 points8 points 15 hours ago
Just remember to purchase Norton after the 30 day trial finishes.
[–]TwoHands 0 points1 point2 points 14 hours ago
TIL you can use windows without using your computer.
[–]kellyjosephprice[] 0 points1 point2 points 13 hours ago
Alex, What is windows?
[–]AliasUndercover 2 points3 points4 points 12 hours ago
Are they seriously trying to say you have to use Bing Bar to use your computer? I wonder how many people fall for that shit.
[–]dafreeboota 3 points4 points5 points 15 hours ago
WHat the fuck? required to use your computer? fuck!
[–]P1r4nha 1 point2 points3 points 16 hours ago
You mean Windows, right? Don't need to install it. Just put in a liveCD and format your disk. It's easy.
However keep the product key. These keys are valuable.
[–]Javelineer 0 points1 point2 points 15 hours ago
Become an information dealer
[–]Mikethrillmas 0 points1 point2 points 14 hours ago
We should all get drunk and experiment with bing. What a story that would make.
[–]MrMunchkin 0 points1 point2 points 15 hours ago
Or... You could not give a shit and use a web browser that's not Internet Explorer.
[–]Flawd 0 points1 point2 points 15 hours ago
It really pisses me off how they require you to agree to that before it'll let you into the operating system.
I have that exact picture on my phone, taken for the exact reasons.
[–]mrbrick 0 points1 point2 points 15 hours ago
I spent a good 2 hours yesterday setting up my father in laws PC. At first I realized was like- hrmm.. he is super computer illiterate. Maybe he wont need anti virus? He barely knows how to open Chrome. But then my wife pointed out that he is newly single, doesnt want to date, and going to living alone for the first time in ages soon... so porn. MSE it is.
Its amazing how much bloat ware was on this laptop.
[–]lomegor 2 points3 points4 points 14 hours ago
I like how installing the Bing Bar is required to use your computer, while the above product (I'm assuming the T&S of Windows itself) it's only required to use Windows. I would hope they maintain such promise and brick your computer if you don't accept it.
[–]thefarelkid 1 point2 points3 points 12 hours ago
Embedded within the vary framework of the PC is the Bing Bar. It is the whole essence of the operations system. Without it no program, nay no single calculation could work... oh wait, it's only real use is to supply MS with your data and lends no value to you in any way whatsoever.
[–]myztry -1 points0 points1 point 11 hours ago
regard, the IE team...
[–]popshopadop 1 point2 points3 points 14 hours ago
it only installs bing bar to internet explorer as far as i know of.
[–]eyebum 1 point2 points3 points 13 hours ago
Advice I saw elsewhere on Reddit-don't uninstall windows. Just buy a new hard disk, and swap it with the existing one. Then install whatever you want. Keep the original for any warranty issues.
This is a good rule of thumb for any re-install scenario where the original drive contents are potentially critical.
It stopped being so appealing for a while when hard drives prices went sky high though.
[–]friedsushi87 0 points1 point2 points 13 hours ago
pcdecrapifier.com
[–]Ivess -1 points0 points1 point 12 hours ago
So brave
[–]GracieBalloon 0 points1 point2 points 12 hours ago
When we got new computers at work the Bing bar was the first thing to go on mine.
[–]DankDarko 0 points1 point2 points 11 hours ago
Ew, bing in the workplace? What is your IT guy thinking? I work in livery dispatch and theres no chance in hell our pc would be caught with bing toolbars (let alone toolbars in general).
[–]cincinnati2 0 points1 point2 points 7 hours ago
Why?
It's in no way worse than the Google toolbar.
[–]Icharus 0 points1 point2 points 12 hours ago
lol bing is bad [OC]
[–]NickDouglas 1 point2 points3 points 12 hours ago
Saving for the next time someone asks why Mac users are so smug.
[–]hooch 1 point2 points3 points 12 hours ago
This is how hardware manufacturers keep prices down. They allow companies like M$FT, Symantec, and others to have their software preloaded, in return for cash.
Although I agree, I always format new PC's myself.
[–]ck291403 0 points1 point2 points 10 hours ago
format c: /q , reinstall Windows, go
[–]powercow 0 points1 point2 points 10 hours ago
I was surprised both MS and google went into the toolbar business. It's been a bane of microsoft and doesnt really fit IMO with googles ideology, just as those things have always been associated with nefariousism and ruining your browser experience.
I've seen too many browsers with only a couple inches of actual browsing space. I dont know how the normal user is supposed to keep crapware off their system. They try to trick you every which way into installing them. Sometimes just checkboxes checked below the window that you have to scroll to see. Sometimes disguised as the normal licensing agreement. And while it IS up to the user to read what he clicks, these things are all designed to be sneaky.
Even if the ms one and the google one are less intrusive and easier to uninstall, and less sneaky, they still are part of computing that have given people great headaches and are associated with tricking people.
(and avg too.. yeah i get that sometimes people find them handy but they have always left a bad taste in my mouth)
[–]replicated 0 points1 point2 points 10 hours ago
I like it for the wallpaper. Also you can get free Amazon cards to buy real things on amazon with Bing but ok.
[–]Baron_von_Retard 1 point2 points3 points 10 hours ago
How does this belong in geek? Just use pcdecrapifier and be done with it. Stop making asinine and retarded posts.
[–]obi-nine 0 points1 point2 points 9 hours ago
First thing I do with a new laptop is re-format the hard drive and install Ubuntu.
[–]The1337Mudkip -1 points0 points1 point 9 hours ago
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-MY/windows-vista/Take-a-screen-capture-print-screen Yup.
[–]Elshar 2 points3 points4 points 9 hours ago
Not the free Norton/McAfee junk that comes with it? Wow.
[–]AdmiralEO 0 points1 point2 points 8 hours ago
Yep. Fuck that shit. Stupid Microsoft.
[–]fraincs 0 points1 point2 points 8 hours ago
Bing Bar is nice only for the reason you can set it to change your wallpaper to fit bing.com pictures it's a nice touch. no sarcasm here
[–]jaylakes 0 points1 point2 points 8 hours ago
And when they're done, toolbars take up ask the viewable area of the browser. Yup, Ubuntu for me. M$ can #sand
[–]cold_drink 0 points1 point2 points 8 hours ago
The entire OS?
[–]HerderOfNerfs 0 points1 point2 points 8 hours ago
I un-install a different Microsoft product. It's called Windows.
[–]NoAirBanding 0 points1 point2 points 7 hours ago
I don't use IE, and when I do it's for bing rewards (xbox points), so yea, I have the bing toolbar installed
[–]Sonicjosh 0 points1 point2 points 7 hours ago
I actually use the Bing bar, makes it very easy to use the Bign rewards system. That being said, I still use Google exclusively for real searches.
I've gotten more than $50 in Amazon gift cards though Bing rewards by entering random junk into it.
[–]SkyWulf 0 points1 point2 points 7 hours ago
The fuck? You have to install that Bing shit just to use the computer?
[–]brkdncr 0 points1 point2 points 7 hours ago
I think you can just not check that box and Bing doesn't get installed.
[–]hiflyer780 0 points1 point2 points 7 hours ago
http://pcdecrapifier.com/download
Awesome tool. I use it pretty much daily at work.
[–]dirtydan -1 points0 points1 point 6 hours ago
Next uninstall Windows 7 alltogether. Win 7 became unusable for me after about a month of use on a new laptop. I replaced it with a mature free OS and run Win7 in a virtual machine like those Mac guys do with Bootcamp. Now when the thing starts dragging I burn the virtual machine and fire up a copy.
[–]harley613 1 point2 points3 points 6 hours ago
i googled this 'Bing' and it doesn't look all that impressive
[–]Keyes817 1 point2 points3 points 5 hours ago
Didn't Microsoft get in a whole heap of trouble for doing this in the late 90s? I do not understand how corporations can get away with forcing their inferior products on their customers
[–]cuppsy 1 point2 points3 points 5 hours ago
... Windows? Good move. I always start by tossing Windows and install Arch. :)
[–]scootey 0 points1 point2 points 5 hours ago
Write the manufacturer and demand that they either give you a copy of the OS without the Bing crap, or refund you for Windows altogether. (Slightly like asking for a refund for bundled Windows, which some people have done to varying degrees of success.)
Seriously, I'm not an anti-Windows zealot...but saying that accepting an EULA for crapware is "required to use your computer" is going way too far.
[–]WHOWANTSBEEF 0 points1 point2 points 5 hours ago
You have to agree to use Bing to use your laptop? Seriously?
[–]Daveyo520 0 points1 point2 points 5 hours ago
I actually use the Bing bar to get free MS Points.
[–]sbailey85 0 points1 point2 points 4 hours ago
I thought you were going to un install windows. That's what I do
[–]roosterlollipops 0 points1 point2 points 4 hours ago
Did they stop adding 'Print Screen' keys to laptops, or did you uninstall Paintbrush as well?
[–]TroyDowling 0 points1 point2 points 2 hours ago
Protip (Uninstalling crap): DeCrapifier
Protip (Installing Applications): Ninite
[–]Canidium 0 points1 point2 points 1 hour ago
Tip, don't uninstall bloatware. Format the shit out of the computer instead. Otherwise, shit will still be present.
*.atleastnowchangetolinux
all it takes is a username and password
create account
is it really that easy? only one way to find out...
already have an account and just want to login?
login
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